Chanda Brashears - Cinemark Holdings, Inc. Mark Zoradi - Cinemark Holdings, Inc. Sean Gamble - Cinemark Holdings, Inc..
Julia Yue - JPMorgan Securities LLC Eric O. Handler - MKM Partners LLC Leo Kulp - RBC Capital Markets LLC David W. Miller - Loop Capital Markets LLC Robert Fishman - MoffettNathanson Chad Beynon - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc. Eric Wold - B. Riley & Co. LLC Michael Ng - Goldman Sachs & Co. Benjamin Daniel Swinburne - Morgan Stanley & Co.
LLC James Charles Goss - Barrington Research Associates, Inc..
Good day. My name is Carmen and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Cinemark Second Quarter Earnings Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.
I would now like to turn the conference over to Chanda Brashears, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead..
Thank you, Carmen, and good morning, everyone. At this time, I would like to welcome you to Cinemark Holdings, Inc.'s second quarter 2017 earnings release conference call, hosted by Mark Zoradi, Chief Executive Officer; and Sean Gamble, Chief Financial Officer.
I would like to remind our listeners that certain matters that are discussed by members of management during this conference call may constitute forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Safe Harbor provisions of the United States Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that may cause Cinemark's actual results to differ materially from the expectations indicated or implied by such statements.
Such risk factors are set forth and expressly qualified in their entirety in the company's filings with the SEC, including the most recently filed Annual Report on Form 10-K. The company undertakes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. Today's call and webcast may include certain non-GAAP financial measures.
A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures to the most directly comparable financial measures calculated and presented in accordance with GAAP can be found in today's press release, within the company's most recently filed Quarterly Report on Form 10-Q, and on the company's website, investors.cinemark.com.
I would now like to turn the call over to Mark Zoradi..
One, core product category growth; two, new concept innovation; three, operational execution; and four, strategic pricing. Last quarter, we discussed our core product growth. Today, I'll provide some input into our new concept innovation tactics.
As consumers tastes and expectations are continuously changing, we're focused on evolving what we offer and how we sell concessions to our guests by expanding food and beverage offerings including seasonal and multicultural fare, increasing creative promotional tie-ins with film content, as well as introducing alternative designs and layout that improve guest convenience, reduce transaction time, and grow purchase incidence.
Within these efforts to meet consumer demand, we're on target to deliver 60% of our domestic theatres with expanded food and beverage categories and 35% offering alcohol by the end of the year.
From a financial perspective, our food and beverage initiatives delivered yet another per cap record and contributed to our industry-leading trend of 42 consecutive quarters of per cap growth.
Shifting to XD, we remain committed to our XD strategy with 231 XD auditoriums throughout our circuit and maintain our position as the number one private-label Premium Large Format in the world.
As part of our XD initiatives, we're focused on differentiating our PLF environment from other offerings, including the installation of our Luxury Lounger recliner seats in XD auditoriums. Currently, 45% of our domestic XD screens feature recliners.
Our guest response to the immersive screen with captivating sound in addition to the oversized, plush reclined seating has been tremendous. We also initiated a significant marketing campaign earlier this year to help promote the upgraded XD experience to a wider range of our customers, both inside and outside of our theatres.
The results of this campaign have been excellent, and combined with our other XD initiatives, our global XD admissions revenue increased 16% year-over-year in the second quarter. Our worldwide XD screens, which comprise only 3.9% of our circuit, generated 9% of our admission revenue during 2Q, which was up 130 basis points from this time last year.
We will continue to actively pursue our XD strategy considering the favorable economics, flexibility and control of our private label PLF. And finally, an update on our Connections loyalty program, we have been vigorous in our marketing effort and it has certainly paid off.
After only 15 months, we have 6 million members worldwide for which we are able to monitor, track and segment consumer behavior. This is paving the way for a more personalized Cinemark experience for our guests.
We're thrilled with our progress to-date and are beginning to utilize the data to create relevant messaging and offers for our loyalty members.
From the data we have gathered in the first year of this program, we have confirmed that loyalty members' annual spend and visit frequency rates are substantially higher than our general movie going population.
Our ultimate goal with our loyalty program efforts are to continue to expand our membership base, further enrich our guest experience, increase movie going frequency and spend, as well as support our studio and concession partners with target marketing actions.
In closing, we are pleased with our consistent financial results that are supported by strong operational foundation we have built as well as the execution of our strategic initiatives.
I'd like to commend our worldwide team, including our 529 theatres and corporate support centers that span 16 countries for their dedication and outstanding performance to drive our results. That concludes my prepared remarks. I'll now turn the call over to Sean to address a more detailed discussion of our financial performance.
Sean?.
Thank you, Mark, and good morning, everyone. During the second quarter, our global company generated $751.2 million in total revenues that were up approximately 1% versus 2016. Worldwide adjusted EBITDA grew 1.4% to $170.7 million and our adjusted EBITDA margin improved 10 basis points to 22.7%.
In the U.S., attendance declined 5.5% to 43 million patrons as a result of film content that had weaker consumer appeal compared to the second quarter of 2016. That said, our attendance results continued to outpace the North American industry.
Our average ticket price increased 2.6% to $7.79 due primarily to the impact of recliner conversion opportunities and other strategic pricing actions. The combined impact of price and attendance variances resulted in domestic admissions revenues of $335 million.
The food and beverage initiatives that Mark discussed earlier continued to yield strong results in the second quarter and delivered U.S. concessions per patron growth of 7.7% to a record $4.59. This per cap increase lifted our total domestic concessions revenues, 1.8% to $197.3 million.
Domestic other revenues also increased by 6.8% and are back to a more normalized run rate now that we have fully lapped the non-repeating promotional benefits we realized from 3Q 2015 through 1Q 2016 as discussed during the past several quarters. Overall, our U.S.
operations delivered total revenues of $551.2 million with an increase in adjusted EBITDA of 1.2% to $129.4 million, and a 50-basis point growth in our adjusted EBITDA margin to 23.5%.
Internationally, attendance declined 4% from the prior year to 26.4 million patrons driven by film release timing and a tough local film content comparison relative to 2Q 2016, as Mark previously explained. International admissions revenues were $114.9 million, which grew 3.7% versus last year as reported and were up 0.9% in constant currency.
Our reported average ticket price of $4.35 translated to a constant currency increase of 5% that was primarily driven by inflationary price increases, and partially offset by ticket type mix. International concessions revenues were $65 million, which grew 8.7% as reported and 6.5% in constant currency.
Our reported concessions per patron was $2.46, which translated to an 11.1% increase in constant currency. Overall, total international revenues grew 6.6% to $200 million as reported. Adjusted EBITDA was $41.3 million with an adjusted EBITDA margin of 20.6%.
While foreign currency has created significant translation headwinds on our reported financials over the past few years, these headwinds turned around in the first half of 2017 and delivered an approximate 3% tailwind for the second quarter.
While future currency fluctuations are obviously difficult to predict, if current rates continue to hold, we would anticipate a modest tailwind for the full year of 2017.
As a reminder, the vast majority of our international operating expenses are transacted in local currency including film rental and facility lease expenses, so the impact of currency exchange is predominantly translation-based and not transaction-oriented.
Furthermore, our operations throughout South America and Central America are largely self-sustaining with regard to both operational cash requirements and organic growth needs.
Shifting back to our worldwide consolidated results, second quarter film rental and advertising costs as a percentage of admissions revenues declined by 10 basis points year-over-year to 54.8%.
This favorable variance was the result of a reduced concentration of blockbuster films this quarter that was partially offset by lessened international local film content mix as well as incremental spend on global advertising and promotional campaigns.
Conversely, concession costs as a percentage of total concession revenues increased by 40 basis points in comparison to the prior year. This increase was primarily due to the impact of expanded food and beverage offerings across our global circuit that carries slightly higher costs.
And while these expanded offerings can create a slight drag on our concessions margin rate, they continue to drive incremental purchase incidence and sizable growth in overall concessions revenues and income as previously discussed. Salaries and wages were 12% of total revenue, and increased 70 basis points compared to the second quarter of 2016.
This growth was driven by labor cost increases associated with minimum wage hikes and general inflation as well as the impact of our recliner conversion ramp up and food and beverage initiatives and the effect of actual attendance results that were somewhat less than our expectations.
Facility lease expenses and utilities and other costs, as a percentage of total revenue, both increased slightly by 20 basis points and 10 basis points respectively. These increases were largely driven by net theater additions to our global circuit. Similarly, G&A for the quarter also increased by 20 basis points as a percentage of total revenue.
Collectively, second quarter pre-tax income was $81.3 million. Our effective tax rate for the quarter was 36.2% and net income attributable to Cinemark Holdings, Inc. was $51.2 million or $0.44 per diluted share. With respect to our balance sheet, we ended the quarter with a cash balance of $504 million and a net debt position of $1.5 billion.
We remain dedicated to prudent capital planning, and for the fourth time in the past 18 months, the consistent strength of our balance sheet enabled us to take advantage of favorability in the debt markets during the second quarter, to yet again re-price our senior secured credit facility, and reduce our loans coupon by an additional 25 basis points.
This reduction will produce an incremental $1.7 million in annual cash interest savings. We now expect our annualized interest expense to be approximately $105 million. Shifting attention to our U.S. footprint, we operated 337 theaters and 4,544 screens in 41 states and 102 DMAs at quarter end.
During the quarter, we added one theater with 12 screens and closed one theater with nine screens. We assigned commitments to open four theaters and 38 screens during the remainder of 2017 and eight theaters representing 86 screens subsequent to 2017. We expect to spend approximately $87 million in CapEx for these 124 screens.
We also anticipate closing around 10 to 20 screens during the remainder of 2017. Internationally, our Latin America circuit grew to 192 theaters and 1,382 screens across 15 countries. During the quarter, we expanded by four theaters and 29 screens.
As of quarter end, we had signed commitments to open one theater and ten screens during the remainder of 2017 and six theaters representing 28 screens subsequent to 2017. We anticipate spending approximately $16 million in CapEx for these 38 screens.
Consistent with our prior comments, we continue to view Latin America as a long-term growth opportunity. Considering the challenging political and economic environments within certain countries in which we operate, we are experiencing modest near-term impact on our organic growth efforts.
That said, we continue to anticipate adding between 50 to 75 international screens during 2017 and we believe that long-term growth prospects across Latin America remain intact, even if they slow slightly in the short run.
Regarding overall CapEx, we spent $91.6 million in the second quarter, including $14.3 million on new-builds and $77.3 million on existing theatres with a concentration on recliner conversions.
We continue to anticipate spending between $325 million to $350 million of CapEx during full year 2017, of which $70 million is designated for new-builds both domestically and internationally, $80 million is for core maintenance of existing screens and in line with our historical run rate, approximately $15 million is associated with the continued renovation of our headquarters building, and residual $160 million to $185 million is for cash flow generating projects that includes our Luxury Lounger theater conversions and varied food and beverage initiatives.
We continue to expect that our annual depreciation and amortization will increase to approximately $230 million to $240 million in 2017 as a result of this CapEx spend.
In closing, I would like to echo Mark's commentary regarding the consistency of our financial results that are driven by the strength of our company's financial and operational foundation.
With this foundation intact and our continued execution of our strategic initiatives, we believe Cinemark is well positioned to capitalize on future growth opportunities. Carmen, that concludes our prepared remarks, and we would now like to open up the lines for questions..
Certainly. Your first question comes from the line of Julia Yue with JPMorgan..
Hi, thank you. International attendance this quarter was a little softer than we expected. And you mentioned the difficult comparison against some content last year.
But can you elaborate a bit more on if you saw any particular regions that were weaker in the quarter? And also it would be great to hear your outlook on the slate and the general health of Latin America movie going through the second half of the year.
It seems like it's a more favorable slate, but just wondering if you're also seeing any local language films that could swing either way?.
Hi, Julia. Thank you for your question. Yeah. Let us add just a little bit more color to that. The largest reason for Latin America attendance off was there was significant local content reduction from previous year. To be specific, it was like 38% off across the region.
And specifically, Argentina was off dramatically in terms of their local content production; it was off 70% in that specific country. I mean, in addition to that, there were two important U.S. releases that were shifted outside of the quarter, Cars 3 and Transformer, both shifted outside of the quarter.
So, we'll see positive elements of that next quarter. And then also I mentioned in my prepared comments that Conjuring 2, which was a very important title for Latin America in 2016, there was no such horror genre, that was a very, very popular title for 2016 that we didn't have.
And then finally, Wonder Woman which was a big success in Brazil did not resonate as well throughout the rest of Latin America. So, I think when you add all of those things up, that really is the cause for some of the attendance decline in Latin America during the second quarter..
Got it.
And do you have any sense right now of local language film coming up through the second half of the year?.
You know, what that is there is we typically have somewhere between 10% and 15%, and we do have some sight into what's coming, we have a whole list of titles but what you don't have is you don't have the titles going on tracking like you do in the U.S.
to be able to say, this one is going to be the big, big hit, but there is a good SKU of local titles that are coming. And then in addition, there are some things that – there are few titles in the U.S.
that are going to be actually shifted into 2018, like Coco is going to shift in Brazil and Argentina to 2018, Jumanji is going to shift into 2018 and Ferdinand is going to shift into 2018. So, most of this is shifting titles from one quarter to the next..
Okay, got it. And just a question on domestic concession per cap. You really had good growth in the quarter. I was wondering if few of the initiatives that you talked about earlier, such as expanding seasonal and multicultural food, more tie-in with film content, the alternative designs and layout.
How much of that was implemented in the quarter or across the circuit? And what is the expected ramp of those initiatives?.
We're constantly doing that. I mean, that's something that's happening literally every single week here because what our concession people are doing is they are out in the field, doing the local research to find out what is working in, let's say, Southern Texas versus what's happening in the Northeast or Southern California.
So that's not something that's really a one-time version. It's something that we're constantly looking at in terms of adapting to local taste, new local foods and beverages that we might choose to offer. So that's something that I would say is not specific to a quarter, it's rather an ongoing strategy that we have..
And I would attribute about half of the growth to those initiatives that Mark indicated, which will be ongoing and the remainder is really a combination of some of the new builds that we've opened coming on board as well as some modest price increases..
Got it. Thank you very much..
Your next question comes from the line of Eric Handler with MKM Partners..
Good morning. Thanks for the questions. First, Sean, it's very rare in the industry that when attendance is down, you could see margin expansion like you did in the U.S., with the U.S. circuit.
Anything you can attribute to how you were able to achieve that and just exactly how much flexibility do you have or levers can you pull to ratchet back cost when you see attendance is soft and maybe ratchet up when things are good? And then secondly, when I look at how well your XD screens are doing, just curious, in some of your better theaters, have you thought about maybe doing a second XD screen or maybe like an XD light type of screen?.
Sure. Thanks, Eric. Yeah. I mean, a big driver of our EBITDA margin on the favorable side is certainly coming from the food and beverage initiatives and per cap growth that we talked about as well as the impact of our recliner efforts and new builds.
We did also get a timing benefit from the NCM tax dividend distribution, which last year happened in the first quarter and this year happened in the second quarter. So that piece is also boosting our results a bit. So, I'd say a combination of the operational benefits from food and beverage as well as our recliners supplemented with NCM..
Eric, in regards to your XD question. Yes, we are very pleased with the results in the second quarter to overperform like that in a quarter in which box office is down and have XD up, we were extremely pleased about, and we are taking some initiatives to add in second XD screens where appropriate.
We would only do that in a theater that has at least 14, 16 screens because you want to be able to offer the consumer a wide variety, but we already have four of those theaters and we will be looking to do some additional ones as well..
Great. And just as a quick follow-up, with your loyalty program.
I know it's still early, but I wonder if there's some early data you can provide us into how many more movies the average rewards member – how many times they go to the movies versus the overall company average or spending levels versus the overall company average?.
Let me give you some color on that and I think it will help. When we look at frequency visit and spend uplift, what we're seeing with Connection members, because about a one-and-a-half to two times the regular movie going population for frequency visit and also for spend uplift.
So, I think, that gives you a little bit of a flavor for how significant the Connections members' spend is as well as their frequency visit..
Excellent. Thank you very much..
Thanks, Eric..
Your next question comes from the line of Leo Kulp with RBC Capital Markets..
Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the questions. Just one on the international screen outlook. I think you said the backlog there was at 10.
With the 24 you've opened year-to-date, where do you get the confidence that you can hit that 50 to 75 for the rest of the year?.
We have a variety of theatres in our pipeline. I think, one of the challenges in terms of the visibility with international is a lot of the signed and committing activity happens really at the very last minute. It's a much, much shorter lead-time than what you see in the U.S.
That said, we don't usually spend cash on construction until the contract is fully complete, but it's not out of the norm that you could have a signing and committing a theatre days before it actually opens.
So I'd say when you look at the pipeline that we have, the experience we have, the long-term relationships with these developers and experience I think, we have kind of confidence when you wrap all that together in being able to get to those numbers..
Okay. Got it.
And then any initial thoughts on how we should think about 2018 given some of the economic situations down in Latin America?.
Leo, let me take that one. We're confident that 2018 looks like in the same category, somewhere in the 50 to 75 range in regards to additional screens for Latin America. And we could start to see that in the pipeline in some of the countries beyond Argentina and Brazil. So it looks like a pretty consistent growth there, again 50 to 75..
Got it. Thank you, Mark. And then just one last question. One of the large European circuits recently said they were considering a sale.
Can you update us on your thoughts with regards to expanding into new geographies?.
Leo, we look at every potential deal that is put to the marketplace and we look at it in a careful and diligent way. At this stage, we really can't make any comment about any potential future acquisitions. I have said in the past that a priority for Cinemark is to go deeper into the 16 countries in which we already operate.
That doesn't mean that we wouldn't go outside of that if a particularly good opportunity presented itself..
Got it. Thank you very much..
Your next question comes from the line of David Miller with Loop Capital Markets..
Yes. Hey, guys. Congratulations on the stellar results. Sean, I've followed you guys for years, seen you guys outperform the general U.S. market. You're always just very consistent, but this was pretty notable. I mean, you guys pretty much blew away the U.S. index, which was down 3.5% in the second quarter.
So if you could flesh that out for me, I'd appreciate it. I mean, what was going on in the quarter with you guys? Was there any dynamic pricing going on or did you guys just take share from local competition? Just if you could flesh that out, that'd be great. Then I have a follow-up. Thanks..
Sure.
We like to believe that it's the combination of the philosophy we've discussed for a while on focusing and prioritizing attendance as a way to maximize box office and that comes into our pricing strategies, the level of investment that we devote to our core circuit beyond everything we are even doing with our initiatives, but then our initiatives as well.
So it's hard to point to any one particular thing that does that, but when we kind of look at the ability that we've had to outperform for 30 of the last 34 quarters, I think it's all those things that consistently have been able to enable us to do that..
Okay, great. And then Mark, this PVOD cloud just continues to kind of hang over the subsector, yet there is just no consensus or seemingly no consensus amongst the major studios on when they would start, which studios would be involved, which films would be involved, and no consensus on what the pricing structure would look like.
So other than Disney, which has said that it's not going to participate, in your discussions with your studio partners, has there been any other major studio in your view that has said to you, "We're out. We're not going to do this." Any other conversations that you've had that shed light on dispelling this PVOD cloud. Thanks..
David, thanks for the question. Relative to PVOD, we have had a pretty consistent position on this. We've been clear about for well over a year now.
And that position has been that we're very, very cautious about it and we would not proceed down any road here unless we were very confident that it was going to be a positive financial terms for our shareholders. So we've held that position, we've made it clear relative to discussions, specific discussions with individual studios.
I'm sure you can recognize that that's not something that we can discuss in any kind of a public forum. I would just say that we do have ongoing, active discussions with all of our studio partners, but I would not categorize those at any form of negotiation. And we remain very consistent with our position relative to PVOD..
Okay. Thank you..
Thanks, David. Appreciate it..
Your next question comes from the line of Robert Fishman with MoffettNathanson..
Hi. Good morning. I have one for either Mark or Sean. Can you just remind us of how many of the 337 U.S.
theatres are located in the malls across America? And how you think about the balance of renewing those long-term leases in those mall locations on more favorable terms versus the risk of attendance decreasing in malls where large retailers shut down? Thanks a lot..
Sure. We have about – I'd say about 25% of our domestic circuit is in what you would think of as a traditional mall-type environment. I think over the years we've been (36:40) particular about what locations we go into.
So where you may read about kind of strain on malls and pressures on malls and issues there, we like to think and what we've seen is the majority of our theatres are not in those particular types of malls. The malls we're in are performing well.
Interestingly enough, in the few malls that we have been in that have kind of suffered some challenges, we've seen examples where our theatre continues to perform and grow.
So it's kind of a very landscape, but I'd say as it pertains to lease renewals in those malls, I mean, just like any other lease renewal we'd do, we'll take a look at the demographics, what's going on in the marketplace, how the theatre is performing, what's the competitive landscape and all that will bear into the decisions we make as far as the renewals..
I think one last thing, Robert, that I might add to that as well is theatres in today's world actually are very important traffic builders for malls and where there might be some softness in traditional retail, mall developers are very anxious and want to keep us in their mall or put us into new malls, and we're expanding quite dramatically into what I would call lifestyle malls as opposed to traditional malls, because theatres drive traffic and mall developers like that traffic..
Okay. Thank you, both..
Thanks, Robert..
Your next question comes from the line of Chad Beynon with Macquarie..
...taking my question. Mark, Sean, just kind of a broad one here on the overall industry given that as we've talked about it, it really can't get out of the way of a lot of negative headlines.
As you talk to your friends back in Hollywood about the weakness that we've seen in the second quarter bleeding into the third quarter, has their view of the industry, of the content, the number of films, has that changed at all or do you think this is something as you've talked, it's just cyclical and we're kind of in a patch on the downside? Thanks..
Chad, thanks for the question. We tried to deal a little bit of that in some of the prepared remarks. I mean, Sean's spent significant amount of his career in Hollywood. I've spent the majority of my career there. And it was always on the film side.
And if there was one thing that was true for those 30 years that I was at Disney, and it has continued to be true today, is that motion pictures, it's very difficult to look at this business on a quarter-by-quarter basis, because you move one title out of a specific quarter and put it into the next quarter, and it changes the entire way you would look at that quarter.
And so I don't think there is anything that is epidemic relative to a problem in terms of product, because as I highlighted, there're still several titles, strong potential titles for the third quarter, and most importantly what I would consider a very strong fourth quarter to come.
And so when the whole year is said and done, I think the year is actually going to be in pretty decent shape, and you have to evaluate it. At the very least on an annualized basis, because making a movie and getting that movie ready for distribution is not a simple process for the studios and other content providers.
Things shift one quarter to the next and then our business shifts one quarter to the next. So if Sean and I have a consistent comment that we like to make to you and others is please look at this business on a little longer-term perspective instead of just on this quarter-by-quarter basis..
Great. Thank you. That's super helpful. And then just on capital allocation. You talked about kind of projected CapEx for the number of screens in LatAm for 2018 and your leverage is kind of near historical lows.
If there aren't M&A opportunities and you kind of know the CapEx for the Luxury Loungers, what's the right level of leverage to flex up and what's kind of your order of capital allocation outside of everything that's already earmarked?.
Sure. We're obviously still putting together our plans for 2018. So it's early to get into that, although we are optimistic about the ongoing opportunities that exist for developing and growing our company. Our leverage has kind of hovered around the slightly over 2x level for the past few years. So we're not uncomfortable with that level.
We don't have a defined target or stated target per se, but we have been pretty consistent in that result.
The orders of priority, which we stated in the past, we clearly focus on prioritizing investments in ROI generating growth opportunities for the company, while returning cash to shareholders through our dividends that kind of carry about a 3% yield, and while maintaining a strong balance sheet that gives us the financial flexibility to act quickly on opportunities when they present themselves.
So I think we're going to continue to focus on that balance. In terms of any shift or any change, that will kind of come through as we look at what our CapEx demands are for 2018 and where we think our overall cash flow will wind up as a result of that..
Great. Thanks, Sean..
Thanks..
Your next question comes from the line of Eric Wold with B. Riley..
Thank you. Good morning. Couple questions. I guess one, first Mark, so let me try to get a clarification. When you talked about Latin America and the slate on there and titles "shifting", that's not shifting release dates or changing release date. They were always scheduled to be in separate quarters.
That's correct?.
That's correct, yes..
Okay..
And the reason for that is really very simple. It's usually related to school holidays. And so the countries are not on the same exact school holidays is up domestically and therefore they like to take advantage of that..
No, I hear. I just want to clarify to make sure it wasn't actual thing is shifting through the dates. So continuing on Latin America, I guess how do you think about the growth goals for the company overall? Do you keep U.S.
and Latin America completely segmented and kind of think about growth plans for each separately? Or if there is continued uncertainty in Latin America and development plans remain slow, does that want you to kind of accelerate growth in the U.S.
to the extent you can either organically or through M&A?.
Eric, we clearly look at each country individually because each country has their own growth opportunities and their own challenges. Without question, Latin America because of the penetration of theatres and screens is so much less on a population basis than it is in the U.S.
We have a greater ongoing and consistent growth opportunity in Latin America. And the good thing about Latin America is it's not all one country. So if Brazil is hopefully at or near bottoming out in their political and economic problems, you have Central America and Chile and Peru, which are doing much better.
So the growth prospects are different even within that region. And so we look at it with what are the opportunities for that specific country and what are the opportunities to put in new theatres and continue to grow our business..
The other thing I would add is just one of the other benefits that the strength of our balance sheet gives us is we can go after growth in both areas simultaneously. We're not forced to have to make tradeoffs one between the other. The right kind of prudent investment is there in the U.S. as well as international. We can do both and we do, do both..
Thank you. And then last question on kind of going back to XP – sorry, XD and the success you've had there. I know you did the trials, you got people to kind of trade up and try it.
As you've been able to track through the loyalty program, what have you seen in terms of – I know you talked about just overall spending and visitation in general for loyalty versus non, but what about XD specifically in terms of the propensity for loyalty members to use that now as a more consistent choice for them? And then remind us the price differential here and in Latin America on XD versus base ticket pricing?.
Okay. Generally in the U.S., it's a $3 upcharge in the U.S., generally. It could be $2.50 to $3.50, generally $3.
In Latin America, it's more like $1.5 to $2 for the upcharge and the thing that was most encouraging for us relative to our XD performance in the second quarter is that in a quarter in which box office was down, we specifically saw our XD revenue go up by 16%. So that's significant. And we think that it's a reflection of a lot of our initiatives.
One was the marketing campaign and the second is just the initiatives that we've done within the theatres themselves. We've reclined 45% of our XD auditoriums. We've put a big promotional push on it.
We obviously have the best technology available in those screens, and we went out and promoted it pretty effectively in this last quarter, both to our Connection members and to the general movie-going population. And that's why we saw the 16% increase..
Perfect. Thank you, guys..
Thanks..
Your next question comes from Michael Ng with Goldman Sachs..
Thanks for the question. I just have a few follow-up questions on the U.S. You said that Cinemark outperformed the industry box by 50 basis points, but average screens declined by 60 basis points. So excluding that, I think Cinemark would have outperformed by 110 basis points, and that's assuming the industry screens are flat.
First, is that a fair way to think about that? And what do you think U.S.
industry screens actually grew in the quarter? And second, could you just provide the order of magnitude by which recliners, XD, and tax-on-top contributed to the outperformance?.
Well, let me start with the first part. So, yes, I think, the short answer is yes. I think, you can look it at that way. Our per screen, our domestic admissions revenues was down about 2.4% on a per screen basis.
The industry being down about 3.5%, if you assume about a 1% screen growth in the industry, you might be looking at around a 4.5% decline on a per screen basis for the industry. I think that's how we tend to approximate per screen for the industry. So the comparison there would be about 2.4% down for us compared to 4.5% for the industry.
And then I'm sorry, your second question again, was...?.
Just could you provide the order of magnitude by which the recliners and XD and tax-on-top contributed to that I guess 210 basis points of outperformance?.
I don't have that specific breakout for those individual units, but just knowing how important recliners were, I would put it clearly at the top. Tax-on-top only affected about 60% of our overall theatres because some states didn't have any sales tax in which to put tax-on-top with.
And even when we took the benefit of tax-on-top, we were typically only taking maybe half or even 40% of it. So if, for example, in Texas the box office the sales tax is just over 8% and we weren't taking all 8%. We were taking maybe 3% or 4% of that. So, in terms of magnitude, I'd put recliners as number one and then tax-on-top.
What was the third one he asked about?.
XD..
And XD, I'd probably put tax-on-top and then XD..
Yes. I was going to say, just to round that out, when you look at kind of overall price, you take tax-on-top out, just our overall price, we were fairly in line with industry growth at about 2.6% versus 2.5%..
Yes..
So the pricing component was somewhat in line. Recliners for us, as we've looked at this in the past, has definitely been in uptick. So you might attribute about half of that to it.
But the other thing we see is our core circuit, when you try to strip out the impact in the industry of these other factors of recliners and whatnot, we've seen that over index, which comes back to a comment I made earlier about the investment we make in all of our non-recline screens just to keep those things up to shape.
So it's really an amalgamation of everything..
Okay, great. That's very helpful. Thanks. And you said you had 153 screens temporarily closed in the quarter. I think last quarter you originally guided to about 100.
So are you being more aggressive on the recliner renovations or is this timing-related, and can you provide your updated outlook for temporary screen closures for the rest of the year?.
Are we being more aggressive? We are being consistently aggressive. Since the beginning of this year, we said that we were going to reach the goal of 40% by the end of this year in terms of our domestic screen count reclined.
We're well on our way to getting there, and we're going to continue to probably have somewhere north of 100 screens closed during the year. I don't have an exact number of what that will be, but we won't be any more aggressive in the remainder of Q3 and Q4 because we're online to get to that 40% by the end of the year..
Okay, thanks.
And maybe just a quick one on International, could you just provide us an updated outlook on how you think about the second half in terms of local language content versus the second half year ago?.
We think that the content during the second half of the year will likely, when we are all said and done, end up somewhere between 10% and 15% of overall box office in those local industries. Likely because second quarter was low, it'll probably be closer to the 10% than the 15%. And that's relative to attendance as opposed to box office as well..
And I think what Mark indicated earlier too that, the bigger challenge you have with the local content is, it's harder to predict where the big winners are going to be because a lot of them, you don't have a big line of sight. They're not these hugely expensive productions that you can kind of anticipate being big blockbusters.
A lot of times they are just local things that connect and do significant business. So there's a big lineup of titles coming, it's just, again, it's harder to anticipate which ones are going to be the breakouts and which ones are, and that tends to ebb and flow quarter-to-quarter, year-to-year..
Okay. Great. Thanks so much for the questions, guys. Bye..
Thanks, Michael. Appreciate it..
Your next question comes from the line of Ben Swinburne with Morgan Stanley..
Good morning. Thank you.
Can you guys talk about the returns you're getting on upgrades, both recliners and also the food and beverage investments today versus say last year? And on the 60% that you haven't upgraded the circuits, how are you thinking about the timing there and the opportunity, is that something you could accelerate in 2018 and beyond? What's sort of the remaining opportunity in the circuit since you're obviously getting good returns today? And then I know you're probably loathe to predict any single title, but Star Wars is a pretty big driver of strength in fourth quarter, any initial read on that film and expectations around how that might compare to previous Star Wars releases like Rogue One last year? Thank you..
Ben, I'm going to take part of the question, I'm going to ask Sean to do the other. First I'll do the Star Wars question. We expect Star Wars to be a very, very successful film. But at this stage of the game given that we have not seen the movie, and the only thing we've seen is the trailer and some early footage, it's really difficult to predict.
So, we expect it to be the biggest driver of the fourth quarter, but I can't put a box office number attached to it. Relative to your question on recliners, we have not announced a specific plan for 2018 and we choose not to do that because it's not that we haven't thought about it, in fact we thought about it a lot and plans are in place.
But we don't come out with any suggestion of what that number is going to be until we see the ongoing results.
The ongoing results of all of our recliner effort has continued to be very substantial, as I mentioned well above our threshold of 20% and I will say this, we expect that 2018 we will continue aggressively in the recliner effort, and in one of the future quarters, we will come forward and give you an estimate of what we think 2018 will be.
But at this stage we want to see results, and we do it simply because we want to do diligent financial analysis before we commit to a number..
Makes sense..
Your next question comes from the line of Jim Goss with Barrington Research..
Thank you.
I was wondering about reserve seating, couple of things, what is your share of total attendance that is accounted for by that and in terms of monetization, is it having a favorable impact on concessions in that people don't have to worry about getting to the seats or is it having any effect on the timing of arrival in terms of pre-roll advertising and that sort of thing as well?.
Jim, in terms of reserve seating, it's about 30% and it can go up a little more than that. What we see is that it does have a positive effect on our food and beverage, typically we'll see growth somewhere in the 1.5 times to 2 times of growth rate in reserve seating and the reason for that is very logical.
People walk into the theater, they know they have their seat, they don't have to rush to their seat, rush to the auditorium to get their seat. Therefore, they're more open to be able to go to the concession line and pick up what they would like.
So, it's positive, relative to that concession, it's positive relative to our ability to push price and it's positive relative in terms of reclining, relative to attendance and that's what's driving the ROI on these reclined seats..
Okay. And I was wondering about whether you've had any interest in virtual reality.
And I know you've also pushed a certain amount of alternative content, is there any update on those scores?.
Virtual reality, that is a great category that we are very interested in, that we're very involved in researching. We have met with just about every virtual reality hardware company and software company.
And in the coming quarters, I am certain that we will be testing some various opportunities of virtual reality either in our lobbies or potentially in a small auditorium, nothing to announce as we sit here today, but there are some great opportunities out there.
And again, we're going to take our time and pick what we think have the highest potential in regards to providing consumer demand. So, we are going to do it. We're looking at it and stay tuned..
Okay. And finally, M&A topic has come up a couple of times. I was wondering it doesn't seem like the recliner trend has had a significant impact in boosting that tendency or maybe you'd tell me otherwise.
And within the international markets, are you more likely to try to increase your penetration in larger markets like Brazil and Argentina or would you rather be looking at other markets to expand your footprint?.
In terms of M&A activity internationally, we would be interested in all 15 of our international markets. Clearly, the larger the country sometimes the more the opportunities are there. And we already have such a large market share in Argentina and a very significant market share in Brazil.
Sometimes, it's a little more difficult when you're reaching 30% or even 35% market share to continue to grow because you ran into a level where you can't continue to acquire theaters, but it doesn't mean that we aren't opportunistic there, but I'd say in all of our international territories and I'm not sure what's your question was relative to recliners you mentioned..
Well, I was thinking in an earlier stage when your screens were going digital there was a suspicion that perhaps some of the smaller owners might want to sell out.
I didn't know if there would be similar motivation given maybe a need to upgrade and maybe the better path would be to sell to Cinemark or whatever?.
It maybe a little surprising that we haven't seen more potential opportunities in that area. But we're just very cautious and diligent acquirers of theaters and it doesn't mean that we're not interested, we are. But we just want to make sure that whatever we would acquire is going to have a positive accretive effect to our shareholders.
So we will look to do it, but we're going to look to do it only where we feel like it's going to be very accretive to our shareholders..
All right. Thank you very much..
Thanks, Jim..
Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Harrigan with Buckingham (1:00:27)..
Thank you. Two questions.
First, you talked a little bit at Southern Con (1:00:33) about your access to rich data, particularly if you add them in the loyalty program, it probably could help your studio partners and electronic (1:00:43) sell through at some point and clearly looking at some of the correlations and what movies people go to and all that could be very interesting to both you and the studios.
I know it's early but would you have any additional comments on that? And then secondly, the other anomaly other than some movies underperforming this year has been two top studios have really been on their back for quite a while now, Paramount and maybe Sony to a lesser extent.
As those studios come back, I mean do you think it's somewhat of a zero sum game or do you think that people sometimes are ignoring a little bit because you got two studios that have been dysfunctional, it could be pretty additive if they got their games back together? Thank you..
Yeah, I'll start with the first question. I would say given that our program has been active for a little over a year, we're still kind of ramping up. We have gotten into some of the utilizing our data to start to personalize. We've beefed up our data analytics capabilities, we've added members to our team as well as third-party resources.
So I think we're very excited about the prospects.
It's probably a little bit early just to report too much on that because we're really just beginning to implement many of those capabilities and opportunities, but we are excited about how that can just enrich the overall experience that our consumers have as well as create greater opportunities with our studio partners and create incremental monetization opportunities..
In regards to studios, we're so pleased and so happy that Sony had the giant hit in Spiderman. So I think Sony is clearly on an upswing and they also had Baby Driver, which was a movie that way over-performed what people thought it was going to be. So we're very pleased.
In regards to Paramount, Jim Gianopulos taking the helm there is an incredibly positive thing for us. We think Jim is one of the most creative and driving executives in Hollywood. So we're very much looking forward to what Jim will be able to do at Paramount..
Congratulations on the quarter as always..
Thank you..
There are no other questions at this time. I'd like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks..
Thank you all for joining us today. We really look forward to speaking to you again following our third quarter. Good bye..
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