Michael J. McKenney – Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer Jon Painter – President and Chief Executive Officer.
Dan Jacome – Sidoti & Company Walter Liptak – Seaport Global Rudy Hokanson – Barrington Research.
Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Kadant Inc. Q2 2016 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session andinstructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference call is being recorded.
I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Michael J. McKenney, Senior Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. You may begin..
Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone, and welcome to Kadant’s second quarter 2016 earnings call. With me on the call today is Jon Painter, our President and Chief Executive Officer. Before we begin, let me read our Safe Harbor statement.
Various remarks that we may make today about Kadant’s future expectations, plans and prospects are forward-looking statements for purposes of the Safe Harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.
Our actual results may differ materially from these forward-looking statements as a result of various important factors, including those outlined at the beginning of our slide presentation and those discussed under the heading Risk Factors in our annual report on Form 10-K for the fiscal year ended January 2, 2016.
Our Form 10-K is on file with the SEC and is also available in the Investor section of our website at www.kadant.com, under the heading SEC Filings. In addition, any forward-looking statements we make during this webcast represent our views only as of today.
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A reconciliation of the non-GAAP financial measures to the most directly comparable GAAP measures is contained in our second quarter earnings press release issued yesterday, which is available in the Investors section of our website at www.kadant.com under the heading Investor News.
With that, I’ll turn the call over to Jon Painter, who will give you an update on Kadant’s business and future prospects. Following Jon’s remarks, I’ll give an overview of our financial results for the quarter. And we’ll then have a Q&A session.
Jon?.
Thanks, Mike. Hello, everyone. It’s my pleasure to brief you on our second quarter results and our outlook for the second half of the year. Overall, we had an outstanding quarter with record adjusted EBITDA, the second-highest – and the second-highest adjusted earnings per share in our history.
It was one of those quarters when everything went right, which led to a strong beat on both the top and bottom line. I’ll begin today’s business review with the financial highlights of the quarter.
We finished the second quarter with revenue of $112 million, up 14% compared to the second quarter of 2015 and well above our guidance of $103 million to $105 million. Our acquisition of PAAL completed early this quarter had better-than-expected revenue performance as did other businesses in our Stock-Prep product line.
Our Doctoring, Cleaning & Filtration and Wood Processing product lines also had stronger-than-expected revenue performance in Q2. Gross margins in the second quarter continued to be strong at 45%. Our adjusted EBITDA was a record $18 million or 16% of sales, up 14% compared to Q2 of last year.
Our GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.75 in the second quarter exceeded the top end of our guidance by $0.22 and included a $0.04 negative impact from currency translation. Our adjusted earnings per share was up 13% to $0.88. Excluding the impact of FX, our adjusted earnings per share increased 18% over Q2 of last year.
The one area that was somewhat disappointing was our bookings, which were down $98 million, up only 5% compared to Q2 of 2015 despite the inclusion of bookings from PAAL.
The weaker bookings reflect the general softening of markets in North America, Europe and China, and I’ll provide more detail on this in our outlook for the second half of the year later in my remarks. Finally, cash flow in the second quarter was quite strong at $14 million and we ended the quarter with net debt of $9 million.
As you can see from Slide 6, FX continues to have a negative effect on our results when compared to Q2 of last year, albeit at a lower rate than previous quarters. Our internal growth for Q2, which excludes acquisitions and FX, was flat for revenue, down 8% for bookings and up 4% for adjusted earnings per share.
Our internal growth for Q2 in parts and consumables revenue was up 1%, while bookings were down 2%. Excluding acquisitions and FX translation, our internal revenue growth for the first six months of the year was 4%. This compares with internal growth rates of 3.3% in 2015 and 6.4% in 2014.
As many of you know, we have a goal to generate internal revenue growth over the long term of 4% to 6% on average, excluding the impact of acquisitions and FX.
While we don’t expect to have internal growth every year, our long-term goal is that we will achieve an average growth rate of 4% to 6% annually depending, of course, on where we are in the economic cycle.
This is an ambitious goal given the slower growth of our end markets, but we have several focused internal growth initiatives aimed at achieving this target. Looking at revenue and bookings trends on Slide 7. We saw generally weak industrial activity in the major regions of the world, which impacted our performance in Q2.
Our second quarter revenue of $112 million was up 14% year-over-year due to the acquisition of PAAL, which is included in our Stock-Prep product line. Excluding the impact from FX and acquisitions, revenue was flat compared to Q2 of last year. Our bookings of $98 million were up 5%, which was also due to the contribution of PAAL.
Excluding the impact of FX and acquisitions, our Q2 bookings were down 8% due largely to weakness in the other businesses included in our Stock-Prep product line. Turning now to our parts and consumables business. Our revenue for parts and consumables in the second quarter increased 6% and set a new record of $69 million in Q2.
And this represented 62% of our total revenue. Our record revenue performance for Q2 was driven by the acquisition of PAAL as well as our fluid handling product line in Europe. Parts and consumables bookings were up 4% compared to a strong Q2 of last year to $65 million.
This increase was largely due to the acquisition of PAAL as well as strong parts and consumables bookings from our wood processing product line. Next, I’d like to take a few minutes to provide an overview of our business activity and performance in each of the major geographic regions of the world. Let me begin with North America.
The North American market is our largest and most impactful. The general slowdown in industrial economic activity and downstream demand in the U.S. is reflected in our rather lackluster performance in North America in Q2. We saw more – we also saw more market related downtime taken by U.S.
paper mills, which negatively impacted our parts and consumables business. Our revenue in North America was down 9% to $54 million compared to the record-setting quarter of 2015. All of our major product lines saw modest declines compared to a strong Q2 of 2015.
Bookings in North America were $46 million, down 10% compared to Q2 of last year and down 14% sequentially. The market conditions for spare parts and consumables in the U.S. paper industry has weakened, particularly for our Stock-Prep and Doctoring, Cleaning & Filtration product lines.
That said, parts and consumables bookings at our wood processing product line increased 17% due to continued strength in the housing market. There were some notable price spots during the quarter. We booked three relatively large orders for our latest wool cleaning doctoring system from carbon fiber manufacturers in the U.S.
While the combined value of these orders is just under $500,000, we also benefit from the future parts and consumables revenue stream that these installations create. This new product line and industry segment is an example of one of the internal growth initiatives I mentioned earlier in my remarks.
This initiative is particularly impactful because it expands our presence into faster growing markets. I am also pleased to announce that during the second quarter, we’re again producing ceramic creping blades in the U.S.
This new production line includes the state-of-the-art manufacturing and online inspection capabilities, which allows us to deliver world-class blades for North American customers locally with short lead times, something none of our competitors can do.
As a refresher, creping is the most critical aspect of tissue making as it directly affects properties such as softness, strength and bulk. Our goal is to utilize our strong reputation in the tissue market to introduce these blades to our customers. We’re the world’s number one supplier of creping equipment for tissue machines.
And with this new line, we are well-positioned to win a share of the $60 million annual market for these consumables. Increasing our market position for these consumables is another of the internal growth initiatives I mentioned earlier, and I’m happy to see the program achieve this milestone.
As is the case in North America, Europe is also experiencing rather soft market conditions. It’s too early to tell what impact, if any, the Brexit vote will have on business levels in the U.K. as the potential negative impacts of Brexit are expected to be somewhat moderated by the positive impact of a weaker sterling. Incidentally, the U.K.
typically represents 5% or under of our total revenue. Also, we’ve not seen much Brexit impact on our customer’s buying behavior in other parts of Europe. Our Q2 revenue in Europe was $33 million, up 86% and bookings of $31 million were up 46% compared to Q2 of last year.
These positive results in Europe were largely due to our recent acquisition of PAAL. The integration of PAAL into the Kadant organization is going well and we’re diligently working on expanding PAAL’s presence into the North American market.
After talking to potential customers in North America, we believe there is a real need for a reliable, high-performance, German-engineered baling equipment in this market. We’re also exploring various outsourcing opportunities with the goal of reducing the cost to some of PAAL’s components that are currently outsourced by bringing them in-house.
Next, let’s take a look at Asia. Despite the government’s well-publicized efforts to stimulate the economy in China, we continue to see a relatively weak environment for capital projects so far in 2016 as overcapacity still seems to be weighing on the market. Our Q2 revenue in Asia was $14 million in both Q2 of this year and last year.
Except for the revenue jump in the fourth quarter of 2015 when several large capital projects were shipped, quarterly revenues have been relatively stable over the past few years in this region. Our Q2 bookings in Asia were $12 million, down 14% from the second quarter of last year.
While project activity was somewhat subdued in Q2, we did book several large orders from Chinese containerboard producers, including one for a large OCC system and two others for recycled fiber cleaning system upgrades with a combined value of more than $1 million.
We also booked a large order for creping and fluid handling equipment for two new tissue machines being constructed in China, also with a combined value of nearly $1 million.
In general, I would say Asia, and China in particular, is still working to its overcapacity issues and the weakness and uncertainty of the global economy is drawing this process out longer than what might normally have been the case if global trade and consumption were stronger.
That said, I will say we are seeing an uptick in project activity in China, which gives us some optimism for 2017. Finally, I’d like to make a few comments about the Rest of the World.
Our revenue in the Rest of the World saw a very nice uptick in Q2 to $11 million, up nearly 50% compared to the same period last year and included several large capital shipments of Strander and Stock-Prep equipment with a combined value of nearly $3 million.
Our business in South America also had very strong performance in our Doctoring, Cleaning & Filtration product line, including a tissue project where Kadant was specified to the tissue machine supplier by the end user. Our strong reputation for high-performance creping equipment used in production of tissue provided us this preferred supplier status.
Rest of the World bookings in the second quarter were up 23% compared to the same period last year to $8 million. While this region tends to be one of the more volatile regions in terms of capital projects, we’re well-positioned to take advantage of new project activity as it develops.
Although market conditions in Brazil have been challenging, the integration of our acquisition a few years ago with our existing business in Brazil has gone extremely well and the combined business is performing at very good levels of profitability. Let me close my remarks with a few comments on our guidance for Q3 and the full year 2016.
Fortunately, the first half of 2016 has turned out much stronger than we anticipated and PAAL has performed better than we projected.
That said, we’re not increasing our guidance for the full year 2016 due to the weakening global market conditions that impacted our bookings in the second quarter and has moderated our outlook for the second half of the year. We’re narrowing our full year earnings per share guidance to $2.75 to $2.81 on revenues of $415 million to $421 million.
Our adjusted earnings per share guidance, which exclude acquisitions related to cost and a gain, is $2.98 to $3.04. As I’ve mentioned in the past, FX is expected to have an impact on our expected growth rate for 2016 and 2015, reducing revenue and adjusted earnings per share by 3% and 4%, respectively.
For the third quarter of 2016, we expect to achieve GAAP diluted earnings per share of $0.62 to $0.65 on revenues of $103 million to $105 million. I’ll now pass the call over to Mike for some additional details on our financial performance in the quarter.
Mike?.
$0.11 due to the operating results from PAAL, which excludes the one-time charges related to the backlog amortization expense, inventory write-up and acquisition costs; $0.02 due to lower operating expenses; $0.01 due to a lower effective tax rate; and $0.01 due to higher gross margin percentages.
These increases were partially offset by $0.05 of lower revenues due to an unfavorable foreign currency translation effect. Collectively, included in all the categories I just mentioned was an unfavorable foreign currency translation effect of $0.04 in the second quarter of 2016 compared to last year’s quarter due to the strengthening of the U.S.
dollar. Let me also take a moment to compare the actual diluted EPS results for the second quarter to the guidance we issued during our May 2016 earnings call. Our GAAP diluted EPS guidance for the second quarter of 2016 is $0.50 to $0.53. We reported GAAP diluted earnings per share from continuing operations of $0.75 in the second quarter of 2016.
This $0.22 increase over the high end of our guidance range was principally the result of higher-than-anticipated revenues due to several factors, the shipment of Doctoring, Cleaning & Filtration and Stock-Prep capital projects originally projected to ship in the third quarter of 2016; better-than-expected operating results from our recent acquisition; and better-than-forecasted parts and consumables shipments in our wood processing product line.
Now let’s turn to our cash flows and working capital metrics on Slide 19. Cash flows from continuing operations were $13.6 million in the second quarter of 2016, down $0.8 million from $14.4 million in the second quarter of 2015. We had several notable non-operating uses of cash during the second quarter of 2016.
We paid $56.6 million for the acquisition of PAAL net of cash required and paid a dividend of $2.1 million. We also expended $1.2 million in CapEx. There were no share repurchases during the second quarter of 2016.
Over the past 12 months, we have returned $13.4 million of capital to our shareholders, $5.8 million from share repurchases, and $7.6 million from dividends. This represents approximately 40% of our net income during that period. Let’s now look at our key working capital metrics on Slide 20.
We had a sequential decrease in days in inventory to 89 days from 99 days, a sequential increase in our AP days to 45 days and a modest decrease in our days in receivables to 58.
Looking at our overall working capital position, our cash conversion days measure calculated by taking days in receivables plus days in inventory and subtracting days in accounts payable was 102 at the end of the second quarter of 2016, down 16 days from the first quarter of 2016 and down 13 days from the second quarter of 2015.
Working capital as a percentage of revenue was excellent at 12.7% in the second quarter of 2016 compared to 15.1% in the first quarter of 2016 and 15.8% in the second quarter of 2015. I would note that the improvements in our working capital metrics this quarter are due to the addition of PAAL.
PAAL has excellent working capital management and this has driven the improved working capital metrics for this quarter.
Net debt, that is debt less cash, at the end of the second quarter of 2016 was $9.4 million compared to a net cash position of $33.9 million in the first quarter of 2016, a decrease of $43.3 million primarily due to the acquisition of PAAL.
Approximately $28 million of the purchase price of PAAL was funded from our overseas cash, with the remainder funded from our revolving credit facility in Europe. The interest rate on this euro-denominated floating rate debt is currently less than 1%.
As you can see on Slide 23, our leverage ratio, calculated as defined in our credit facility, was 0.89 at the end of the second quarter of 2016, down from slightly below 1 in the first quarter of 2016. Under the credit facility, this ratio must be less than 3.5. That concludes my review of the financials.
And I will now turn the call back to the operator for our Q&A session.
Operator?.
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Dan Jacome with Sidoti & Company. Your line is now open..
Good morning..
Hey, Dan..
Good morning, Dan..
How’s your summer treating you?.
Pretty good. Better than expected..
A lot in the call. Appreciate the info and candid comments. I had just four quick questions. I think you mentioned the spares market consumables for U.S. paper is seeing some challenges.
Did I get that correctly?.
Yes.
You want to list them all?.
No, no. I’ll just do it one by one. Can you just give us – tease that out a little bit with – is that a function of some of the capacity coming out? I would’ve thought – it seems like some of the guys on the uncoated side are seeing a slightly better pricing. I would’ve thought that, that pocket would have been a little bit better.
So what am I missing?.
So uncoated, you’re right, there’s slightly better pricing. The linerboard, which is the bigger part of the market, has slightly worse pricing. I think we’ve also – we’ve just seen more market related downtime from mills, a little bit more restrictions on their spending on spares and consumables. And fairly broad-based, I would say.
So to me, that – we’ve had weakness in the other parts of the world. Europe’s sort of been weak. China has been reasonably weak. But the softening of the North American spare parts business is kind of a bit of a new thing. I don’t know whether it’s a trend or what have you, but it was – we felt it throughout the quarter, in the second quarter.
And that is a major factor and are kind of – we expected a much stronger second half. And I would say now, we’re expecting a more steady year throughout the year..
Okay. No, that’s fair. And then – so PAALGROUP obviously driving a lot of the growth. I don’t know if you can comment.
Just what does your acquisition pipeline look like right now? Are you satisfied with it? If anything, the things that are in it, are they similar consumables profile? And what about like the – I think you mentioned PAALGROUP is helping you a lot with cash conversion.
Are those kind of themes you’re looking at or is there some sort of different playbook here?.
Sure. I would say that the acquisition pipeline is pretty good, both North America and Europe. We’re looking at stuff that would be add-ons for PAAL for sure. But also, other extensions both for our wood processing business and our fluid handling businesses and really, all of our businesses. So yes, reasonable stuff.
I’m relatively happy with, I would say, where we are now. It doesn’t mean anything is imminent or anything like that. I would say PAAL is extremely good on cash. I think we’re good on working capital. And they’re better. That’s a bit unusual.
So in a normal acquisition, I often expect that the acquisition isn’t as good as us on working capital management, and frankly, isn’t as good as us on gross margins or high percentage of spares..
Great. And then turning to your long-term, I guess, 4% to 6% internal growth target.
Just high level, what would be the kind of one or two biggest variables there as you guys look into the future that get you there? Kind of what do you think has to happen relative to what you’re seeing today? What would be kind of – what’s the switch?.
Okay, that’s a good question. So the first comment – this is a – I’m going to copy out this like 15 times. But the first one is, the overall economic cycle makes a big difference.
So I would say if you kind of took a 5- or 10-year period and you were in the starting point and the ending part were kind of in the same point in the cycle, we would – our goal would be to have that 4% to 6%.
What causes year-to-year variability, one of the things is just timing of capital shipments, 2016, excluding acquisitions and FX, will be a down year because, as we’ve said all year long, because 2015 was such a great year in terms of that – we had some big – we had big capital shipments, particularly in our Stock-Prep business in North America and China.
Fundamentally, what drives that 4% to 6% is the market growth rate, which is modest. And our – these 15 targeted internal growth initiatives, some of which are like that ceramic creping blade business I talked about. That’s a new business for us. That’s taking share from someone else.
Another part – example might be the – getting into carbon fiber, which I talked about. So that’s kind of a double win because one, it’s sales. But more importantly, it’s sales in a market that’s growing orders of magnitude faster than our core markets. So you get a double hit from that..
Got you. And now is my last question.
So on this – the creping blade, I mean, how are those conversations going? Is it like just a quick layup or is it something that’s slow and steady and is it a function of like you switching people over current customers that are using kind of steel? Or is it like a greenfield opportunity or – how does it work?.
Okay. So as a general comment, one of the things about the paper industry and you know, Dan, our market share in almost every one of our product lines are extremely high. So we love the stability of market share. That said, it’s hard – when you’re the guy banging in, it’s hard to get customers to change.
I think we have all the ingredients because we’re so strong in the apparatus that those blades go on. And essentially, there’s almost been kind of a monopoly to a large extent by one company. So I expected it to be a slow steady thing. They typically will trial it for a long period of time and they get in gingerly.
And it’s mill by mill, truly one at a time..
Okay, gingerly, good word. Thanks a lot..
All right, you’re welcome..
Goodbye..
Our next question comes from the line of Walter Liptak with Seaport Global. Your line is now open..
So first one, I wanted to ask about the three buckets that, Mike, you put out there for the EPS, the pull-forward from the third quarter into the second, PAAL and the parts.
I wonder, if we breakout as a percentage, how much came from each one?.
About the percentage, maybe we can give him which is the biggest, which is the middle, which is the….
Yes. They’re relatively a close wall amongst the three, but the pull-in from the third quarter with the Doctoring, Cleaning, & Filtration and Stock-Prep capital shipments, that would be the biggest. Then followed by wood processing and then PAAL. PAAL’s performance is – actually, the delta amongst them in terms of EPS is relatively small..
Okay.
And why did the pull forward happen?.
Well, they were on jobs that are under POC, percent complete. So work just progressed quicker than originally planned..
Maybe I’ll give a little color on the PAAL thing, if I could, Walt. Typically, we do this often when we have an acquisition. When you have an acquisition, the selling entity gives projections. When you’re – in that time of your life that those projections are typically not very conservative. So we back off of that.
And of course, then when we own it, it’s difficult for the new – the management, who are the sellers, to really change it. So we tend to put a little windage on our end on those forecasts. And frankly, I think in this case, the PAAL guys, being their first quarter, they were a little conservative. So between the two, we undershot in our forecast..
Okay. Okay. Well, good for you. They delivered, which is great..
Yes. And then I think they’re looking good for the rest of the year, I would say, at this point, too..
Okay, good. And then in your commentary, you broke out the parts sales, I believe, as a percentage of revenue. I just didn’t get the percentages..
I think it’s 62%..
62%, correct..
Okay.
And it was at 67%?.
Yes. And PAAL brings us down a little bit. Last year, for the year we ended on average, at 65%. So I think in the second quarter, we were a little bit higher than the average..
Okay. And going back to the conversation about the back half in parts and consumables. I just kind of ask sort of the same question. What do we think is happening? Is it just conservatism? Are macro factors impacting? Because I would think that with parts and consumables, you can’t really delay maintenance for very long..
No. And I look at – we look at production. Our parts and consumables in the second quarter was down more than production would lead you to believe. So there’s a very reasonable argument that things kind of revert to the mean and that when you have a down quarter, maybe it’s followed by an up quarter. But I can tell you, we haven’t seen it yet.
We go through this before. These are not huge swings. You saw the numbers, they’re not massive. But it has been a real source of strength for us over the past bunch of years. And it’s – I would say it’s the first real period of sustained weakness we’ve seen though..
Okay, okay. And then the last one for me is just on – just listening to all the geographic regions and your comments on some systems orders. Without putting numbers to it, it sounds like you’re getting a few more systems orders and there’s some visibility in some projects going forward.
Is that the case?.
I’m glad you asked that. It’s probably worth repeating. I did say, and I don’t think I’ve said this for a long time, that we are seeing an uptick in project activity in China. I don’t think it affects revenue this year. It may not even affect bookings this year. But I think it’s going to affect 2017.
So we are, in that particular region of the world, starting to see things percolate maybe up a tick. I’d also say that Europe is bumping along pretty well. We see projects in Europe happening..
Okay.
What was Europe ex PAAL for bookings? 46% with PAAL?.
Bookings were about $14 million..
Yes..
Okay. Ex PAAL, 14% is pretty good..
No, bookings were about $14 million for PAAL..
All right. So we can back it down and do the math. Got it..
Yes..
Okay. Okay, good. And then in North America, you commented on a couple of larger projects that were booked during the quarter.
The same thing is that – are your starting to see more projects in the pipeline for next year?.
I wouldn’t actually – I wouldn’t call it more projects in the pipeline. I’d call it there, frankly, a little bit of the softening in our outlook in North America is some capital projects didn’t go away, but they slipped out of this year into next year. So I wouldn’t say there’s an uptick in capital projects in North America..
Okay. All right, fair enough. All right, thanks guys..
All right, thanks, Walt..
And our next question comes from the line of Rudy Hokanson with Barrington Research. Your line is now open..
Thank you. I have several questions about the PAAL acquisition.
Jon, in your comments, you were talking about the fact that, I believe, you’re seeing interest in North America for a similar type of business? And if you could maybe talk a little bit more about that? And if you’re actually going out and trying to build revenue for this year or is that just more of a sentiment comment?.
Sure. So I think I might have made a little comment on the last call. But PAAL, just as a refresher, a very high leading market share in Europe. Just under 50% market share, we estimate, in Western Europe but basically zero market share in North America, in the U.S. in particular, which is the biggest market. They do have a position in Mexico.
Two things have happened that encourage us – three things. One, there’s a perception in this market that the European manufactured balers are the high-end balers, kind of the Mercedes, BMW kind of view. The main European supplier in this market has gone through a little bit of a tough time.
And they’re still in business, they’re still in this market, but I would say that they’ve lost some significant customers, it seems. Secondly, there’s been some consolidation in the industry, which usually provides an opportunity for new entrants. So I think the market conditions are great for us to do that.
I do think it’s an area where we can help PAAL get into this market. It’ll take time because you have to build a service organization. These things when they – there’s the high cost of failure, which is one of the things we liked about the product, but it also means you can’t go selling it unless you have a good support infrastructure in place.
So our efforts around how are we going to go to market in the U.S. and building out that service infrastructure, which may involve some manufacturing..
Could you give us a timetable that you’re working with right now as far as North American presence? I mean is it something that you plan to have in place by mid-2017 or the end of 2017 or when will we begin to see some influence of that thinking?.
Okay. So take a lot of this with a little – it’s in flux, but I would expect that we would be out there selling in 2017. Then the question is, not unlike our paper industry customers, customers in this industry are conservative. And it will take – it’s a missionary work thing. So I do think it’ll take some time..
Okay. Then I was just wondering a little bit more about expectations on the wood, on Carmanah.
Can you talk about anything that you’re hearing or seeing in terms of expectations on housing right now that would affect that? Could you explain that a little bit more?.
Sure. I mean – so you know, but just for refresher for others, they make these stranders, which make the strands in oriented strand board, which is a – this is a replacement for plywood. And about – in the North American housing market, which is – that’s the place where wood houses are, 80% or so of the market is the strand boards rather than plywood.
So the main driver for sure is housing. Housing starts have been excellent. The one – the last announcement last month was one of the highest since – for many, many years. And it looks strong for awhile mainly because of this under building that happened since the financial crisis.
One thing that is kind of happening and we’re just watching, but it’s on the upside, is that the new houses tend to be more multifamily than single-family. Obviously, there’s less wood used in a multi-family. It’s these millennials that are more urban living. So we’re waiting them for – to have kids, get bikes, move to the suburbs like we all did.
But that hasn’t happened so much yet. But it looks good and it looks good for many years. When we did the acquisition, we went out for like, I think, 2023 with the projections and they were quite strong for that period of time. On the international front, there is stuff going on internationally as well.
In China, they use it for things like making crates. We’re making some very strong inroads in Europe, where we don’t have the leading market share. But we’re actually, I would say, gaining market share there..
And this is a question I haven’t asked it before. Thought about it. But with – you’ve seen some downtime in the paper industry, and thus some weakness is anticipated on the consumable side.
Is that due to any particular maintenance that is required? Or is that something that you feel is being taken because the mills are concerned about maybe building inventory? Or can you tell at what level inventory may be right now so as to what it might take for them to decide they need to start up? Is there some variable or some level of production or product that we can watch to see where they are as far as any kind of – I don’t know how better to say it..
Yes. It’s complicated, I tell you. The mills, if you look at and if you were to listen like an International Paper or have someone of the big producers, their earnings are highly impacted by uptime. That’s one of the reasons our equipment is so important to them. They take annual maintenance downtimes every year.
It’s actually good for parts because they sort of replace a lot of stuff. The stuff that’s less good is they also take market related downtime. And that’s where they say, hey, we’re going to cut back our production because we don’t want to build up inventory and we see that we’re – our production, the capabilities are ahead of the market.
So there was little more of that this quarter, at least maybe we have a heavier [weighting for] the people who are our customers. But we saw more of that. It’s a good thing they do that. I mean it helps them maintain pricing right now, particularly in the North American market.
You have – the top three players have probably 70% market share between them in liner. And they do this rather than let pricing go all to hell and make less money. The thing to look at to me, Rudy, is demand, consumption. What is consumption of paper? It’s been quite stable in the U.S. Slow growth, 1%, 1.5%..
Okay. Okay.
So it’s basically been matching what GDP has been recently?.
It’s typically a little bit less than GDP. Typically. It depends on the year. Sometimes, consumption will go – and I’m talking liner tissue, those are the better – printing and writing newsprint tend to go down. But those two grades will be, in general, a little bit less than GDP. I know GDP in the third quarter was – or the second quarter was weak.
But generally, a little bit less than GDP..
Okay. Thank you, those are my questions..
All right. Thanks, Rudy..
[Operator Instructions] I’m showing no further questions in the queue. I would now like to turn the call back over to Jon Painter for closing remarks..
Thanks, operator. I want to conclude today’s call with what I think are several key takeaway points. First, we had another outstanding quarter in revenue, earnings per share and cash flow. Second, our integration of PAAL into the organization is going well and its performance has exceeded our expectations.
And finally, we continue to expect 2016 to be a strong year despite the challenging market environment around the globe. I look forward to updating you next quarter. Thanks very much for your attention and support. Bye..
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