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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q2
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Operator

Thank you for standing by. Welcome to the Woodward Incorporated second quarter fiscal 2015 earnings call. [Operator instructions.] Joining us today from the company are Mr. Tom Gendron, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Bob Weber, Vice Chairman, Chief Financial Officer, and Treasurer. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Weber..

Robert Weber

Thank you, operator. We would like to welcome all of you to Woodward’s second quarter fiscal year 2015 earnings call. In today’s call, Tom will comment on our markets and related strategies, and I will discuss our financial results as outlined in our earnings release. At the end of our presentation, we will take questions.

For those who have not seen today’s earnings release, you can find it on our website at woodward.com. We have again included some presentation materials to go along with today’s call that are also accessible on our website. An audio replay of this call will be available by phone or on our website through May 4, 2015.

The phone number for the audio replay is on the press release announcing this call and will be repeated by the operator at the end of the call. Before we begin, I would like to refer to and highlight our cautionary statement as shown on slide three.

As always, elements of this presentation are forward-looking or based on our outlook and assumptions for the global economy and our businesses more specifically. These elements can and do frequently change. Please consider our comments in light of the risks and uncertainties surrounding those elements.

We also direct your attention to the reconciliations of certain non-U.S. GAAP measures included in today’s slide presentation and our earnings release and related schedules. Management uses these non-U.S. GAAP measures in monitoring and evaluating the ongoing performance of Woodward and each business segment.

Turning to our results, net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2015 were $493 million, an increase of 2% compared to $482 million in the second quarter of last year. Earnings per share were $0.66 for the second quarter of 2015, comparable to the second quarter of last year.

EBIT for the quarter was $63 million, also compared to the same quarter of the prior year. On a constant currency rate basis, compared to the prior year period, net sales for the quarter would have been $508 million and earnings per share would have been $0.69 per share.

Free cash flow for the first half of 2015 was $13 million compared to $56 million for the first half of 2014, including $41 million of increased capital expenditures over the prior year. For the first six months of this fiscal year, sales were up 8% and net earnings are up 28% compared to the same period of the prior year.

Now I will turn the call over to Tom to comment further on our results, strategies, and markets..

Thomas Gendron

our C&G business in Asia, heavy frame gas turbines, and wind. The C&G market in Asia is heavily driven by the Chinese government setting prices for diesel and natural gas. We’ve seen volatility in this market for several quarters, and we anticipate this to continue.

The heavy frame turbine market remains strong, mainly driven by the demand for aftermarket services. Renewable power continues to grow as an important element of power generation capacity. The economics of wind based power generation continues to improve and we anticipate further growth in this market.

The oil and gas industry continues to be the driver for the aero-derivative gas turbine and gas engine markets. While these markets remain strong, we are seeing slower growth. In summary, the strong sales in aerospace, heavy frame gas turbines, and wind were partially offset by anticipated headwinds in our energy segment for the quarter.

As the fiscal year progresses, we see aerospace strength continuing and improvement in our energy segment from this quarter. The long term growth drivers for Woodward remain solid. We have significant expanded content on new aerospace programs that are nearing launch and demand for our products related to natural gas usage continues to grow.

Now let me turn it back to Bob for the financials..

Robert Weber

Thank you, Tom. Our first half was strong, with earnings per share of $1.32, up significantly from $1 in the first half of 2014, even with the foreign currency and Asian sales headwinds.

In aerospace, second quarter sales increases were driven by higher commercial OEM and defense sales in both OEM and aftermarket compared to the same quarter the prior year. Commercial aftermarket was comparable to the prior year quarter, following an unusually strong first quarter of this fiscal year.

As Tom mentioned, aftermarket drivers remain strong. Aerospace segment earnings for the second quarter of 2015 were 16.2% of sales, up from 15.4% in the same quarter a year ago. The higher segment earnings for the quarter were primarily the result of the increased sales volume and lower research and development expense.

As we launch our new facilities, we will experience costs related to the move and ramp up of production for a period of time. We incurred some of these expenses for both our Niles and Rockford facilities in this quarter.

In our energy segment this quarter, higher sales of gas turbine and wind turbine systems were more than offset by lower sales of natural gas bus and truck systems in Asia and a $14 million unfavorable impact from foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations as compared to the prior year quarter.

Earnings as a percentage of sales were 12.9% this quarter, compared to 14.4% in the same quarter of the prior year. Lower segment earnings for the quarter were primarily due to a $4 million unfavorable impact from foreign currency exchange rate fluctuations.

At the Woodward level, gross margin percentage for the second quarter of 2015 was 27.9%, compared to 29.5% for the prior year quarter. The decline was primarily due to quarterly variability as well as plant startup costs related to our new facilities in Illinois.

More importantly, for the first six months of the fiscal year, the gross margin percentage was improved to 28.7% compared to 28.1% for the same period in the prior year.

Research and development costs were $30 million for the second quarter of 2015, compared to $36 million for the second quarter of 2014, reflecting timing of project expenses and related milestones. As a percentage of net sales, research and development was 6.1% in the second quarter of 2015 compared to 7.4% in the second quarter of 2014.

Selling, general, and administrative expenses were $38 million, or 7.8% of net sales, for the second quarter of 2015, compared to $35 million or 7.3% of net sales in the second quarter of 2014. The increase was primarily due to higher variable compensation expense.

The effective tax rate for the second quarter of 2015 was higher, at 24%, compared to 21% for the second quarter of 2014. Tax rates for both years were favorably impacted by international tax matters and adjustments related to prior year’s tax issues. Our expected tax rate for the fiscal year remains at approximately 27%.

Looking at cash flows, we generated $123 million of cash flow from operations for the first half of fiscal 2015 compared to $125 million for the same period in the prior year. Free cash flow for the first half of fiscal 2015 was $13 million compared to $56 million for the same period of the prior year.

Capital expenditures were $109 million for the first half of fiscal 2015, compared to $69 million for the same period of the prior year, reflecting increased spending related to our capacity expansion projects.

Lastly, turning to our fiscal 2015 outlook, we continue to anticipate full year sales to be between $2.05 million and $2.15 billion, and we are tightening our earnings outlook to be between $2.70 and $2.90 per share, reflecting our ongoing focus on operational performance and continuous improvement activities.

This concludes our comments on the business and results for the second quarter of fiscal year 2015. Operator, we are now ready to open the call to questions..

Operator

[Operator instructions.] Our first question comes from the line of Sheila Kahyaoglu from Jefferies..

Sheila Kahyaoglu

I guess can you just talk about what you’re seeing in the aftermarket a little bit more? And you know, if you could just tell us what’s driving the strength by engine type, perhaps?.

Thomas Gendron

In commercial aftermarket, we’re seeing flight hours up across the board, and with the new programs going into service, such as the 787, we’re seeing good initial provisioning sales. So the combination of hours and new programs ramping up is fueling the commercial airliner side.

We’re seeing more hours on business jets going up, and that, over time, hours drives revenue in the aftermarket for us. So collectively, those are the main things. It’s a strong market right now, and we’re well-positioned with our current portfolio and we’re anticipating even stronger aftermarket as the new programs launch..

Sheila Kahyaoglu

And then just in terms of guidance by segment, in terms of operating margins, do you still expect 100 basis points within each segment, or is it more weighted towards aerospace, given the FX hit?.

Robert Weber

No, we’re still equally bullish on the 100 basis points for both segments. So at this point in the year, that still looks like a good target for us..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski from Drexel Hamilton..

Pete Skibitski

I guess Tom, first half in aerospace has been excellent, almost 10% growth.

And it looks like the comps in the second half aren’t that difficult, so are you coming in pretty hot the rest of the year in aerospace? And maybe just we stay at a more moderate level in energy? Because it seems like if you stay hot in aerospace, you could maybe even go through the top end of your revenue guidance, it would seem like..

Thomas Gendron

Right now, we’re pretty confident in our guidance. Aerospace is doing well. We have a lot of focus on margin expansion, which we have been working on for a number of years, so we’re starting to see the results there. We do think this was a low quarter for energy, and we do see some recovery off this low.

So we’re pretty confident in both markets going forward..

Pete Skibitski

So Tom, on the energy side, right now, it’s more so economic weakness in Asia is impacting you more so than the price of oil declining? Is that a fair statement to make, would you say?.

Thomas Gendron

No, what really had the bigger impact in Asia, and particularly in China, we saw volatility really due to the fact that fuel type, between diesel and natural gas, the prices are set by the government versus the market. And for a while, they were out of balance.

And the delta in price between diesel and natural gas drives a lot of the natural gas business. So for about a quarter, that was out of balance, and it’s now come back into balance. So we see that progressing for the rest of the year. As I said, when you have prices set somewhat artificially, it induces volatility.

We always anticipate volatility in those markets and we did get it, but look forward, we think it will be more positive for the remainder of the year..

Pete Skibitski

And if I could sneak in one more, on the A320neo, that, I think the entry into service of that is creeping closer and closer. Just wondering, what kind of ramp are you guys expecting on that program, because it’s getting, like I said, fairly close.

Just wondering, kind of a slow ramp over a couple of years, or pretty dramatic? And will we kind of see that show through in aerospace in the near future?.

Thomas Gendron

The ramp is kind of set there of course by Airbus. And we’re not predicting anything different than they’re showing publicly. But because of the significant content gains, it is going to start impacting sales in 2016. The ramp will have a good sized effect on our aerospace business.

So it’s a positive for us starting in 2016, and of course, in 2017, when the Max kicks in, it will have a ramp too, as they transition from next generation to the Max. So between those two, you’re going to see several years of ramping up. But because of the big content gains, it will be material for Woodward starting next year..

Operator

And our next question comes from William Bremer from Maxim Group..

William Bremer

In particular, you called out the second quarter is pretty much going to be the trough.

What specific lines will lead you higher in the back half of this year?.

Thomas Gendron

You say specific line. I think obviously aerospace will remain strong. The defense side of the equation has been strong. We continue to believe that that will continue. Most of the areas within energy, we also believe will be improved. So it’s really kind of across the board. Third and fourth quarter are always strong for us.

Usually, it’s the first quarter that’s down and the second quarter that’s back up. But this year, the two quarters have been more on a parallel..

William Bremer

No, I was specifically asking in energy, Bob. I’m sorry if I wasn’t clear.

In energy, what specific product lines or services do you feel will rebound into the second half?.

Thomas Gendron

As I said earlier, I think it’s primarily we’ll see improvements in Asia in total and China, and I think we’ll see improvement around the C&G business..

William Bremer

And then in terms of just pricing right now in general, on the energy side, do you feel as though things are holding at this level, or do you feel as though you have to be more [commentative] to your clients?.

Thomas Gendron

Well, you know, we always work with our customers to try to help them drive cost. What I would say is that while we’re doing that and working to help our customers be more competitive, we’re going to continue to expand margins as we’ve highlighted, with the outlook for segment margin improvement this year.

So that’s our balancing, that’s kind of the value we bring into the market. So we are doing that, but at the same time, we’re increasing our earnings..

William Bremer

And lastly, very nice containment on the cost side on allocated expenses.

Could you sort of give us a sense of what you’re looking for, for the year there?.

Robert Weber

We don’t anticipate anything significant in terms of up or down. Yes, we have been enjoying both leverage and cost controls. So we said that we’ve been employing Lean across the entire organization, including administrative functions.

And so we believe that’s beginning to show some nice improvements from a continuous improvement perspective, and we anticipate that that will continue to be a tailwind for us..

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of JB Groh from D.A. Davidson..

JB Groh

To what do you attribute the strength in military? Is it OE, aftermarket? What’s driving that, and is that sort of unexpected considering your outlook maybe at the beginning of the fiscal year?.

Robert Weber

So, it is both aftermarket and OEM. And I think we called out kind of the increase in activity worldwide that I think is really driving most of that. So I think obviously, last year was kind of the trough as Bill mentioned, for defense, with all the sequestration and not a lot of foreign military sales having picked up yet.

This year, and I think there’s been a number of articles about how foreign military sales are really picking up..

JB Groh

And then could you give me sort of the detail on the tax rate? I think you said 27% for the full year.

Why was it low this quarter, and do you have an EPS impact there? What would it have been?.

Robert Weber

I don’t, offhand, have the [unintelligible]. We’re up about 3 points from the prior year. We’ve had quarterly variability from time to time. We have settlement of prior year tax audits that take place, and then every now and then, there’s a particular tax planning strategy that is employed at a particular point in time.

But usually, those are quarterly variability. We have been fortunate last several years to be down in that 27% to 28% range. And this year, we anticipate it will be in the same spot..

JB Groh

But it was roughly 24 this quarter?.

Robert Weber

24 and 21 last year. Very similar types of items, just different magnitudes..

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Ciarmoli from KeyBanc Capital..

Michael Ciarmoli

Maybe guys, just to elaborate on William’s question, in energy, what gives you the confidence in the Chinese market improving when their economy’s clearly starting to slow? Is there anything specific that you could point to, or even more broadly, in your energy customers, whether it’s Cat or [Huai Chay] or anyone, just the pipeline, the order books, is there anything definitive we can sink our teeth into there?.

Thomas Gendron

The first thing is they’ve adjusted the spread on natural gas between natural gas and diesel, and for a while, they were narrowed, and they’ve now adjusted so they’re a wider spread. So that spread supports the higher cost of the natural gas engine. And with that, it’s back into the range on the spread that drives the demand.

Secondly, they’re driving for implementing Euro Six emissions standards, and that’s going to require natural gas trucks and buses will help. That will impact them, and so we’re going to see more, we believe, from those two. And then overall, the economy’s a little slower than it has been in the past, but it’s still growing, as you’re well aware.

But the bigger drivers for us are the diesel gas spread and the emissions standards, and both those are going in a favorable direction for us..

Michael Ciarmoli

And then just on the guidance, I know you lifted the low end. It would seem, though, I guess what gets you down to that low end as you look out the next six months? You’re going to be looking at maybe earnings being down year over year if you came out at that low end.

What are some of the puts and takes in the low end versus the high end?.

Thomas Gendron

Well, it would be unanticipated volatility. We always plan for volatility. So that’s why we put out a range, just to ensure that we can get in those categories. But I think that would be it. If you saw huge currency moves. If you saw significant changes in natural gas prices, things like that, it could drive us down.

Other than that, the low end of the range is low end..

Michael Ciarmoli

And then just the last one, housekeeping. I think corporate expense down $2 million sequentially.

What are we looking at for the remainder of the year there, and maybe what drove that decrease?.

Robert Weber

Nothing unusually large or notable. I think I mentioned earlier that we do anticipate continuing to be a little more efficient in some of those categories. There can be, from time to time, projects that are [unintelligible] in terms of both legal and consulting and things like that.

And so there is some element of volatility, but other than that, no significant items of an unusual nature..

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Steve Levenson from Stifel..

Steve Levenson

You talked about MRO on the large frame RGTs.

Do you have any comments on the outlook for new large frame RGTs?.

Thomas Gendron

It’s been a little slow on that. We think as you move through this year and the next year, we think you do see some demand picking up. You know, slow pickup, but going in a positive direction on that, Steve. The installed base and the higher utilization of the installed base is a big driver for us, and positive driver.

So we’re bullish on the large gas turbines with OE slowly growing over time..

Steve Levenson

Just watching the engine choices on the A320neo, it seems that the mix is shifting a little bit towards the Leap and away from your turbo fan.

Does that change the outlook at all? Do you favor one necessarily over the other? Or does the Leap being on 737 exclusively sort of outweigh the mix shift?.

Thomas Gendron

Obviously, the Leap being exclusive on the Max and traditionally they split pretty close, the A329 market. So Leap is very important, of course, with that type of volume. But we have very good content on the pure power engine as well, as well as nice situations where we do well, no matter which engine is chosen on that aircraft..

Steve Levenson

And last is an update on GE9X, and what’s going on there?.

Thomas Gendron

If you take the 777X in total, we’re still finalizing, still in the RFP proposal phase. But I’m confident we’re going to do very well on that platform. But we won’t be having any announcements for a little bit yet..

Operator

[Operator instructions.] Our next question comes from the line of Pete Skibitski from Drexel Hamilton..

Pete Skibitski

A couple of follow ups for Bob.

Bob, are you still expecting cash taxes to be heavily weighted to the second half of this year, like they were last year?.

Robert Weber

Yes. They will be, yeah..

Pete Skibitski

And then any change in the capex outlook? It sounds like progress is going really well.

Are you guys still expecting 270 this year?.

Robert Weber

It is. Right now, it will remain to see how the summer goes in terms of these projects. We’re on target, and so I would imagine it will be up to 270 or perhaps a little higher if the weather holds for us in the Midwest..

Pete Skibitski

And then just one last one. Tom, with the rig counts coming down, I think that was a little bit of a fear in the market, that it could impact you guys.

You’re just not really seeing much of an impact from that?.

Thomas Gendron

We’ve seen a little bit of an impact there, but it’s been offset by other parts of our energy segment that are up. And I think that’s one of the real nice things about our portfolio, is we got a lot of balance across it. So we have been impacted there, but more than overcome by other parts of the energy value stream.

We’re seeing, and what we usually say the utilization of oil and gas, is strong. The lower prices are helping that part of the market. And so we’re seeing increased demand there. Obviously a little bit lower at the rigs. Overall, it’s a positive..

Operator

Mr. Gendron, there are no further questions at this time. I would now turn the conference back to you..

Thomas Gendron

Okay, well, appreciate everybody joining us today. Thank you for the questions. And Bob, Don, and I all look forward to seeing you over the next quarter. So, thanks for joining..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that concludes our conference call today. If you would like to listen to a rebroadcast of this conference call, it will be available today at 7:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time by dialing 1-888-266-2081 for a U.S. call or 1-703-925-2533 for a non-U.S. call, and by entering the access code 1654929.

A rebroadcast will also be available at the company’s website, www.woodward.com, for 14 days. We thank you for participating on today’s conference call and ask that you please disconnect your line..

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