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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q2
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Executives

Ron Black - President and CEO Satish Rishi - CFO.

Analysts

Suji De Silva - Topeka Capital Markets Atif Malik - Citi Gary Mobley - Benchmark Sundeep Bajikar - Jefferies.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Rambus Inc. Q2 2015 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Satish Rishi, Chief Financial Officer. Sir, you may begin..

Satish Rishi

Thank you, Amada and welcome to the Rambus second quarter 2015 results conference call. I'm Satish Rishi, CFO; and on the call today with me is Dr. Ron Black, our President and CEO. The press release for the results that will be discussed here today have been filed with the SEC on Form 8-K.

A replay of this call will be available for the next week at (855) 859-2056. You can hear the replay by dialing the toll-free number and then entering ID number 77962571 when you hear the prompt. In addition, we are simultaneously webcasting this call, and along with the audio, we're webcasting slides.

So even if you're joining us via conference call, you may want to access the website for the slide presentation. A replay of this call can be accessed on our website beginning today at 5:00 p.m. Pacific Time.

In an effort to help provide greater clarity in our financials, we're using both GAAP and non-GAAP pro forma format in our press release and also on this call. I need to advise you that the discussion today will contain forward-looking statements regarding our financial prospects and demand for our technologies, among other things.

These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that are discussed during this call and may be more fully described in the documents we file with the SEC, including our 8-Ks, 10-Qs and 10-Ks. These forward-looking statements may differ materially from our actual results and we are under no obligation to update these statements.

Further, as mentioned, we will discuss non-GAAP financial results today and have posted on our website reconciliations of these non-GAAP financials to the most directly comparable GAAP measures. You can find a copy of our earnings release and the recon on our website at rambus.com on the Investor Relations page under Financial Releases.

Now, I'll turn the call over to Ron to provide an overview of the quarter.

Ron?.

Ron Black

Thank you, Satish, and good afternoon, everyone. We ended Q2 with $72.8 million in revenue, which is close to the midpoint of our revenue guidance. Expenses came in at the low end of what we expected, so profitability was at the high end of guidance.

We're continually pleased with the team's performance in careful management of cost and expenses, while still investing heavily in key strategic areas for growth.

Satish will review all the financial in a moment, but from a guidance perspective, it is important to note that we're keeping our projections for the year unchanged in the range of $300 million to $315 million. So we remain optimistic about sequential growth because we have so many deals in the pipeline.

One of the biggest events to occur in the second quarter was the renewal of the SK Hynix agreement. Some have wondered why renew this agreement now, particularly since it was not slated to term until 2018.

Recall that as we began our initiative to really engage and collaborate with the industry a few years ago, Hynix was the first partner to sign and at that time chose to take the standard five-year agreement. As our strategy dictated being more open to more flexible terms, other customers chose to sign longer term agreements.

For instance, Micron signed a seven-year deal and Samsung re-signed to a 10-year deal.

So looking at this structure, it was natural for us to offer an extended license to Hynix and it's a great deal for us from a financial standpoint, providing a steady revenue stream over a more extended period of time, totaling $432 million over the extended term with an average rate of $12 million per quarter until 2024.

As a reminder to our investors, our licensing contracts with the DRAM industry are fixed. So we're not subject to fluctuations in volatility in the DRAM market, which we think is a great position to be in.

Last quarter we also announced that we renewed the license agreement with Renesas, which was set to come due this year and is now renewed into 2020.

This agreement includes not only our memory and interface technologies, but also some of our security offerings, which again formulates a basis to begin potential engagements beyond pure patent licensing. Having these patent license agreements in place really helps as we look to build deeper collaboration with the industry.

In fact, we've talked about working to solve some of the industry's tough challenges and to that end we're gearing up for a new product announcement just ahead of the Intel developer forum next month. This product pertains to two of the strategic memory programs we've discussed previously.

We can't tell you everything right now, but what we can say is that we've been working for the past few years to make our IP consumable taking our intuitive technologies and expertise in the memory space and packaging it into a product that will help improve server-based memory performance.

As our customers and their customers all know, the era of big data is placing tremendous demands on the datacenter to optimize performance, power, CapEx and OpEx for vast amounts of data.

Our product while not related to storage class memory architectures as some had speculated, will improve both bandwidth and capacity requirements to meet the growing needs of the datacenter. Unfortunately, that's all we can say about the program now, but look forward to sharing the official news in the coming weeks.

The other memory related program that we've discussed since borne out of our emerging solutions group, which is where our next generation initiatives in Rambus labs organization reside. This program is focused on improving memory architectures in the datacenter, but more at the rack level and focuses on software.

We also plan to discuss this strategic program in more detail at our Analyst Day in mid September. So we'll be reveling more later in the year. On the security side, we continue to make good progress with Qualcomm as our lead customer for our CryptoManager platform.

At this stage of the program, we are laser focused on delivering the various elements and expanding functionality. To remind everyone, there are several parts of the overall CryptoManager platform that are being developed and deployed.

A security engine, which is a type of small secured element that sits within the customer's SoC; infrastructure, which is basically a secured server that injects keys during the SoC manufacturing process and enterprise class software for controlling the infrastructure.

We get paid for the security engine, infrastructure and software and eventually also royalties for programming third party keys for configuring new features downstream or applications that can benefit from a hardware root of trust such as DRM, EPN and payment.

At the upcoming Investor Day, we will take a deeper look at the downstream royalty opportunity for third party keys, but suffice it to say that it dwarfs Rambus' current revenue.

Interestingly, from a new business model standpoint, CryptoManager opens up an entirely new customer base for us as the company is most interested in downstream configuration and security application, handset manufacturers, mobile operators, mobile application provider and other mobile service providers.

Few of any semiconductor companies, let alone semiconductor IP companies, have truly found a path to monetize this downstream part of the value chain, so we really believe we're doing something unique and possibly even disruptive here. What lastly I want to touch on is the work we've been doing out of our emerging solutions division.

I spoke earlier about this strategic -- second strategic memory program, so I won't cover that again, but this was also the group that is developing our computational sensing and imaging programs such as our binary pixel and lensless smart sensor technologies.

We shared last quarter that our lensless smart sensor received another best of Mobile World Congress Award and that this technology is now also been named a finalist for an EE Times ACE Award. We also discussed the Partners in Development Program or POD Program, we kicked off with our partner's frog design and IXDS.

We're pleased to share that our partners have been working with the developer kits, which include the lensless smart sensor and the algorhythm and they're working through scenarios and vertical applications. So we look forward to sharing some exciting results in. In summary, Q2 was another good quarter.

We're executing and cautiously optimistic that we're on track to meet the financial goals we set forth at the beginning of this year. We're making good progress across all of our strategic programs and are excited to share more news with you next month right before IDF and then even more again in September at our Analyst Day.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Satish to give a read out on the financial results.

Satish?.

Satish Rishi

Thanks Ron.

I would like to remind everyone that for this call and for internal assessment, we use non-GAAP or pro forma numbers to discuss our operating results as well as forward-looking projections, which we believe are indicative of complete performance as it includes certain cash events and exclude certain noncash and discrete events such as stock-based compensation, amortization, impairment and restructuring charges as we believe these are not indicative of long-term performance.

As noted earlier, we will provide reconciliations of the most comparable GAAP measures on our website.

In the case of any forward-looking projections or estimates containing non-GAAP information discussed on this call, a reconciliation may not be available due to the unreasonable effort to make such a determination or provide such information as more fully described on our website.

Let me first review some of the financial highlights for the second quarter. As Ron mentioned, revenue for the second quarter was $72.8 million within our guidance of $70 million to $74 million, flat to the first quarter and a decrease of 4.8% year-over-year.

For the current quarter, our memory and interface revenue was $54.6 million, cryptography research was $11.8 million and our lighting and display technology revenue was $6.4 million.

Quarter-over-quarter these numbers represent flat revenue for MID, a decrease of 7.8% for cryptography research and an increase of 18.5% for lighting and display technology. CRD or cryptography research has a couple of annual licenses, which pay in Q1 of every year, hence a decrease in revenue for CRD.

Year-over-year, revenue decreased by 6.8% and 7.8% for MID and cryptography research respectively and increased by 25.5% for lighting and display technology. In Q2 of last year, we had an extra initial payment from Qualcomm when we signed another [licensee] [ph] and a customer.

In addition, year-over-year we also had lower royalty payments from two customers driving lower revenue for MID and for CRD. For LDT, shipments continue to increase and we had higher royalty as well as higher product revenue.

Cost of revenue plus operating expenses or what I’ll refer to as total operating expenses for the quarter came in at $46.5 million at the low end of our guidance of $46 million to $49 million. This was an increase of $1.6 million from the previous quarter and an increase of $2.7 million from the quarter a year ago.

These increases were primarily driven by prototyping expenses and additional resources and engineering. We ended the quarter with headcount of 513 as compared to 500 in the previous quarter and 484 in the quarter a year ago. Operating income for the quarter was $26.3 million towards the high end of our guidance of $21 million to $28 million.

On a sequential basis, this is a decrease of 6.1% and a decrease of 19.6% year-over-year. The decrease year-over-year was driven primarily by lower patent revenue in Q2 of 2015, since we've kept our total OpEx relatively flat over the year. For the quarter, EBITDA margin was 40% as compared to 43% in Q1 2015 and 47% in Q2 of 2014.

Interest and other expenses for the second quarter were $1.3 million as compared to $1.4 million in Q1 of 2015 and $3.2 million in Q2 of 2014. As a remainder, the 5% coupon convert matured in June of 2014 causing the reduction in interest expense year-over-year.

Using a flat rate of 36% for pro forma pretax -- for pro forma pretax, net income for the quarter was $16 million or $0.13 a share as compared to $17 million last quarter and $18.9 million in the quarter a year ago.

During the quarter, the fully diluted share count increased by approximately $3.7 million from $117.4 million to $120.9 million, primarily due to the dilutive effect of our convertible notes since our average share price during the quarter was $14.29, which was higher than the $12.07 conversion price on the convertible notes.

Overall cash, defined as cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities was $348 million, an increase of $30 million from the previous quarter. Net cash at the end of the quarter was $210 million as compared to $108 million a year ago. During the quarter, we generated approximately $24 million in cash from operations.

Now I will provide pro forma guidance for the third quarter of 2015 as well as for the full year. The guidance reflects our reasonable estimate and our actual results could differ materially from what I am about to review. For the third quarter, we expect revenue to be between $73 million and $78 million.

We expect total operating expenses for the quarter to be between $46 million and $49 million. Pro forma operating income is expected to be between $24 million and $32 million. As Ron mentioned, for the full year, we're keeping our guidance unchanged, both for revenue and for operating expenses.

We're negotiating a couple of large deals and it's hard to predict when exactly they will close. Currently, we're modeling them to close in the fourth quarter, which explains the expected increase from Q3 to Q4.

As in any quarter this forecast is not without risk and if any of these deals get pushed out into next year, we could experience lower revenue and we will update you accordingly at the next earnings call when we will have more visibility on the progress of these deals. We are now ready to open the lines for Q&A.

Operator please open the lines?.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Suji De Silva of Topeka. Your line is now open..

Suji De Silva

Hi, Ron. Hi, Satish. Nice job on the quarter here. In terms of the large deal that you are waiting for visibility on, are there any milestones that you need hit to achieve those or is it just contract timing? Just to understand the fourth quarter opportunity..

Ron Black

Yes Suji. Thanks for the nice words. It's really just process going through it. We have a very nice pipeline. It's very rich. The team has been doing a great job. It's just a question of when they close or not. Satish has always done a good job of kind of boundary conditioning those, you can tell.

He is probably more pessimistic, which is good; not more optimistic, which is good. So it's just a normal stuff..

Suji De Silva

You guys are a good balance there, yes.

And then just a quick clarification, did you say that the new memory was not a storage class memory, Ron, just to be clear? Could you clarify that?.

Ron Black

Yes, let me just reiterate that because we said that -- as announced back with Jeffries Conference, there was a lot of speculation that we heard that it was a storage class memory and so at the last webcast at the NASDAQ Conference, we said explicitly that it is not a storage class memory.

Now we do have a program and this is where people were connecting dots that are very logical, but not necessarily correct. We have a lot of work that we've done on resistive RAM that's incredibly exciting. We've licensed that to Tezzaron.

We are working with a variety of different companies and producing some larger production quality chips and really extending it. I've said one of the things that we were concerned about is the stability at higher temperature. We're making progress on that. So that's a great program, but it's a little further out.

This is a product that we'll be essentially ramping this year and next year. The storage class memory I think is more like 2017 before we would see something.

This is an exciting program, could be great, but that's not what we're talking about either in the one that is coming in the business unit where it's more shorter term revenue or the strategic -- other strategic more software oriented memory program, which we hope to demonstrate to you during the Analyst Day.

That's in the emerging solutions division, which is also where the RRAM is. So no, not storage class, something different. It will be rather obvious when you see it. It's kind of exciting straightforward, but there is a great roadmap with a lot of innovation there..

Suji De Silva

Terrific. We're all trying to triangulate based on what we know and don't know.

But in terms of the OpEx around these two new projects, are there any prototyping type costs that we should think of that are more temporary in nature around these two projects, Satish?.

Satish Rishi

We have been incurring prototyping costs for the memory we're talking about and I think those are included in some of the forecast and the guidance we give. So nothing out of the ordinary.

When we give guidance for next year, we'll see how much we need to do in terms of prototyping and we'll probably adjust our guidance accordingly, but right now, we have already included the estimates in our full year guidance..

Suji De Silva

Okay, great. And then last question on the CryptoManager for Qualcomm, is there a point in time in the future where we should think of some type of inflection in the revenues as units kick off, kick in or not? Or is there any way to think about that? Thanks..

Satish Rishi

Yes, there could be an inflection, but don't forget this is a program we just announced last year in June and we have to have our customers start shipping their chips first and then there will be adoption in the marketplace.

So as we had mentioned in the past, yes, we are getting revenue from Qualcomm, but the downstream revenue won't happen until about late 2016 timeframe..

Suji De Silva

Okay. Thanks guys..

Satish Rishi

Thanks Suji..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Atif Malik with Citi. Your line is open..

Atif Malik

Hi, thanks for taking my question. It looks like the team is pretty optimistic in terms of hitting the midpoint of the full-year guide and strong sequential growth in the fourth quarter. With respect to the new memory product announcement, the MPU maker recently talked about a delay in the 10-nanometer program maybe from two years or 2.5 years.

Could you talk about any implications that could have for the engagement that you have with that MPU maker?.

Ron Black

Yes, what we will be announcing we do not believe that it will have any delay effect on that..

Atif Malik

Got it.

And then in terms of SK Hynix renewal, was the new memory and architecture of the product a part of the package that was offered to SK Hynix?.

Ron Black

No, it was not. In a direct sense, that was simply an extension of the license, it was rather a straightforward one. As I mentioned from our perspective, we both want to work collaboratively on things like could be the new memory project.

But this was just an extension of the license and for the $432 million extending it to 2024, it was just from our perspective, for shareholders, it was a great deal and it's just a great platform to introduce some of these new products..

Atif Malik

Okay.

And the last one for Satish, Satish in terms of the guidance, can you talk about what percentage of the revenue guide is fixed dollar-based and what's variable?.

Satish Rishi

Yes, Atif, we stopped doing that because it really doesn’t matter because if you talk about percentages depending on what the revenue is, the percentage will change every quarter.

So I think what we've tried to guide people to is that from the DRAM side we have been getting consistently fixed dollar numbers and from the DRAM industry, we should expect to receive $158 million for the full year in 2015 and that's a fixed number no matter what volatility there is in the DRAM industry, whatever pricing may be up or down, they might maybe up or down.

So I think that part you can say that at least around 50% of our revenue is fixed. On the others we have both fixed and variable and some of them are unit based. So they're variable. Others that have some fixed amount, but the amount varies over time. So it's very difficult to quantify a percentage in terms of fixed and floating..

Atif Malik

Got it. Thanks..

Satish Rishi

Okay. Thanks Atif..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator instructions] Our next question comes from Gary Mobley with Benchmark. Your line is open..

Gary Mobley

Hi guys. Thanks for taking my question. I guess implied in your fiscal year of '15 revenue guide is the assumption that fourth quarter revenue increases $5 million to $10 million sequentially. That's a pretty astonishing sequential revenue ramp and I'm just trying to get a sense of what underlies that expectation.

Is it a renewal of an existing license relationship or one that maybe has come to expire? Is it tied to a Greenfield opportunity whether it be licensing for some of these new memory architecture products that will be announced in the coming month? Just trying to get a sense there..

Ron Black

So there is a sum of a lot of things. Some of them are extension renewals. Some of them are new opportunities. Some of them are more technology based. Some of them are more straight than normal patent licensing based. So it's really a mixed bag.

When you look at the pipeline, it's just really large, which is what you would expect you would normally have and the question is just simply how much gets achieved this quarter and next quarter? Our scenarios where we go significantly above the estimate, but they're just unlikely which is why we remain in between those two.

Now I guess the best way to say it again Gary is just cautiously optimistic and as Satish said, we'll update you when we find out something new..

Gary Mobley

Okay.

And Satish, you don't break this out explicitly on the balance sheet, but where does deferred revenue stand at the end of the June quarter versus the prior quarter?.

Satish Rishi

You're right. We don't show in the balance sheet. It has gone up. I can check and let you know, but I think it's gone by a couple of million quarter-over-quarter..

Gary Mobley

Okay..

Satish Rishi

I think we might be around $6 million or $7 million as of the end of last quarter..

Gary Mobley

It was $4.5 million last quarter..

Satish Rishi

Right..

Gary Mobley

The previous quarter..

Satish Rishi

Yes so it's….

Gary Mobley

It's probably $6.5 million..

Satish Rishi

It's up quarter-over-quarter. I'll try and have that number next time..

Gary Mobley

Yes, you bet. And Ron, you've often characterized 2015 as being the year of investment with perhaps moderate revenue growth and we're seeing the fruition of that half way through the year.

But you also talk about how 2016 will be the year in which revenue has a chance to accelerate driven by a lot of these -- the execution of a lot of these new initiatives.

Do you still stand behind that qualitative commentary? And could you give us a sense of what you expect to contribute to that growth in 2016?.

Ron Black

Sure, and the answer is of course and I've said it kind of just repeatedly, there is a pipeline of things that just take time to get through and the team is doing it. We're really excited about the new memory product. We're excited about the things that are even more strategically out there.

We didn't talk about it formally in the prepared remarks, but we have customers that are really excited and working with us very proactively on things like the binary pixel, which could provide a nice little bump. So we have a lot of deals. We have a lot of people partner us. It really comes down to CryptoManager.

If you want to look at the biggest chunks, CryptoManager is one that we're really excited about both in terms of new customers, but also the downstream revenue opportunities that we eluded to and we'll talk about when the total opportunity dwarfs the total revenue or Rambus. And we're not the only ones to see that.

Other people are seeing it and wanting to partner with us. So I think it requires us to execute on CryptoManager. It requires to execute on the new memory opportunity and the combination of those with our customers of course to execute.

As we look more like a typical product company whether the product is IP or a physical product like CryptoManager, of course both of those have to work. So as Satish has said, it's not without risk, but I am really pretty pumped about the company and what it's doing now from a strategic opportunity standpoint..

Gary Mobley

Okay. I wanted to talk. Sorry go ahead Satish..

Satish Rishi

It was $6.6 million..

Gary Mobley

Okay. All right. Thank you for that number. I want to talk about use of cash for a minute. You're not shy about talking about the possibility of M&A as being a use of cash and I think that's a great strategy.

But could you talk about if you did buy back stock in the quarter, and if not, why not? And what the M&A pipeline looks today in terms of the availability of good companies and as well their valuation expectations..

Satish Rishi

Sure. So M&A still remains our number one priority. We have been seeing some good opportunities and has been a pretty busy quarter.

So looking at different opportunities, maybe a little more over the last quarter, but again I think the valuation side and possibly a little more on the culture side of the two things that are slowing us kind of stopping us from moving ahead with that. We'll continue looking. We don't want to jump in prematurely or haphazardly.

We want to make sure that we have the right return for our shareholders and our employees. On the buyback side, we did not buyback any shares.

We had said that the program is opportunistic and would start being at about $15.95 but it was not a good time to buying back shares, but secondly I want to make sure that my business units and my M&A team tells me that they have just as possible it is or I can use the cash for buying back at which time I can move in that direction..

Ron Black

Gary, let me just add a little bit on to that, we have a regular pipeline where we are spending time on it. I am spending time with senior executives repeatedly almost each week.

We just had meeting today where we approved another process where we're going to engage more directly with a particular company that's very attractive in one of our strategic areas. So I think that's good. One of the things that I think is changing a little bit albeit slowly is the expectation on value.

I think a lot of people are seeing some macroeconomic storm clouds that are out there that the stock market in Chine, which has been contained, but now can spill over in different areas. The Greek exit and the Geek ordeal is challenging maybe not again it's going to go outside of Europe, but it certainly is some instability there.

PC sales are declining. We saw big stocks like Intel get hit a bit. Handset sales are declining. We saw companies like Qualcomm and even ARM suffer a little bit.

We've seen ourselves trade almost synthetically with the difficulties that Micron had and ARM and other even though we're really as we've noted detached from much of that because of our fixed contract, which is exactly why we chose that.

So I am getting a little more hope for that as people look at some of these macroeconomic storm clouds that may make some transactions a little bit more complicated, but it will be a little more realistic and we're fortunate that we have the profitability that we do while still investing very heavily and the strategic -- our programs that have ongoing and so we're going to take advantage of these opportunities as they come forward..

Gary Mobley

Okay. All right. Well that's enough questions. I'll hope in the queue. Thanks guys..

Ron Black

Thanks Gary..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from Sundeep Bajikar from Jefferies. Your line is open..

Sundeep Bajikar

Hi guys. Just one question from me. Can you just give us an update on CryptoManager licensing beyond Qualcomm? As you mentioned Qualcomm seems to be having some difficulties, some macro driven, but also more on their advanced products.

So how are you thinking about opportunities in the CryptoManager beyond Qualcomm on the chipset side?.

Ron Black

Sure. Well I think there were some global issues in not specifically Qualcomm. So I don't want to make that assertion.

We're engaged with a lot of customers on this that the obvious place is mobile because of the starting point with Qualcomm and the very nature of having this hardware related trust of this mini secure element whatever you want to call it that could be in existence and be used from applications downstream. So that's a very nature place.

However, we have interest in the networking side of various businesses where they want to also configure and secure their supply chain. We have completely different industrial customers that are interested. So I think in some ways from a semiconductor standpoint, it's a paradigm shift. It's a new way of thinking about it.

It's a new way of managing inventory and managing cash and working capital, but it's also a new way to enter into monetizing in different applications. So I think some customers are starting to sense that that's interesting. Some of our partners that we're talking to are also interested in that.

As I mentioned in the prepared remarks, if you think about this, what a platform like CryptoManager allows you to do is offer a value proposition to an application provider that would be on a different platform to have an aspect to use something to secure a transaction or configure device securely.

And today most semiconductor companies monetize only through an OEM. They sell a chip to the system OEM. He put it in. They give him some money in that's it.

What we like about this is the disruptive nature that wow, maybe we can create relationships with other vendors or by the way some of these application providers, but what they're talking about it securing customer relationships that are worth now $6.99 a month and some type of DRM type application not in programming a $5 chip.

So what we get for a $5 chip is pennies. What you can get for securing a highly valuable content with a customer who has an annuity stream forever is a very different value proposition.

Of course there is inherent risk in all of this as we say that run about a dilution, but we have to crawl and walk and run, but this is a fantastic upside opportunity..

Operator

Thank you. I am showing no further questions. I would like to turn the call back to Ron Black for closing remarks..

Ron Black

Thank you all for your continued interest and support. We look forward to sharing more detail on our business and key program at our Analyst Day, which will be held on September 15 in New York. Thank you..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude today's program. You may all disconnect. Everyone have a great day..

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