image
Energy - Oil & Gas Equipment & Services - NASDAQ - US
$ 2.515
-0.198 %
$ 116 M
Market Cap
13.24
P/E
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q1
image
Operator

Good morning, everyone, and thank you for participating in today’s conference call to discuss Profire Energy’s quarterly operating and financial performance for the period ended March 31, 2023. [Operator Instructions] I will now turn the call over to John Beisler, Investor Relations Consultant at Three Part Advisors to get the call started..

John Beisler

Thank you, operator. With me on the call today is Co-CEO and CFO of Profire Energy, Ryan Oviatt; and Co-CEO, Cameron Tidball. Yesterday, after the market closed, the company filed its Form 10-Q with the SEC and first quarter’s highlights in the press release.

As always, both of those documents are available on the Investors section of the company’s website. The transcript of this call will be posted in the coming days. Before we begin today’s call, I would like to take a moment to read the company’s Safe Harbor statement.

Statements made during this call that are not historical are forward-looking statements.

This call contains forward-looking statements, including but not limited to statements regarding the company’s expected growth, revenue diversification success, planned research and development of new products, the repurchase of company shares, growth in our customer base in the natural gas market, the availability of company resources to make beneficial investments in 2023 and beyond, and the company’s future financial performance.

All such forward-looking statements are subject to uncertainty and changes in circumstances.

Forward-looking statements are not guarantees of future results or performance and involve risks, assumptions, and uncertainties that could cause actual events or results to differ materially from the events or results described in or anticipated by the forward-looking statements.

Factors that could materially affect such forward-looking statements include certain economic, business, public market, and regulatory risk factors identified in the company’s periodic reports filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission.

All forward-looking statements are made pursuant to the Safe Harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

All forward-looking statements are made only as of the date of this release, and the company assumes no obligation to update forward-looking statements to reflect subsequent events or circumstances, except as required by law. Readers should not place undue reliance on these forward-looking statements.

I would like to remind everyone that this call is being recorded and will be available for replay through May 24, 2023, starting later today that will be accessible via the link provided in yesterday’s press release as well as through the company’s website at profireenergy.com. Following the remarks by Mr.

Oviatt and Tidball, we will open the call for your questions. Now I would like to turn the call over to the Co-CEO and CFO of Profire Energy, Mr. Ryan Oviatt.

Ryan?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Thank you, John, and welcome to all of you who are joining us on the call today.

Our first-quarter 2023 results built upon the momentum we generated in the second half of 2022 as we recorded the second highest revenue quarter ever, expanded our gross margin above 50% for the first time since Q3 of 2019, and reported our best quarterly net income and EBITDA in company history.

We have now achieved eight quarters of sequential revenue growth, and three of the top five revenue quarters have all been within the last nine months.

Our strong performance in recent quarters is the result of several strategic efforts, including investments in our sales and operations teams, an aggressive product procurement and quality focus, sales price adjustments to combat inflation, and maintaining our high standard of customer service.

We have also benefited from the overall post-pandemic recovery within oil and gas markets. To put the magnitude of the recovery in perspective, revenue from our legacy business for the prior six months exceeds our total revenue for all of 2021.

Recent policy announcements at the state and federal level have increased pressure to reduce oil and gas consumption within the next decade. However, we believe hydrocarbons will remain a critical piece of the world’s energy supply for many years to come.

The necessary infrastructure for many of these alternative energy initiatives is not and will not be in place within the timelines proposed, and the current cost projections are likely prohibitive for widespread adoption. Despite these pressures, the outlook for our core legacy business remains very favorable due to pent-up demand.

E&P companies continue catch-up efforts on multi-year deferred maintenance as well as ongoing efforts to gain better efficiency out of their new and existing wells. With that, let me turn my remarks to Profire’s financial results for the first quarter of 2023.

During the quarter, we recognized approximately $14.6 million in revenue, which represents a 4% increase sequentially and a 53% increase over the prior-year quarter.

The sequential and year-over-year increases were primarily driven by ongoing customer demand, price increases on the products we sell, ongoing historical strength in oil and natural gas prices, and continued progress in our strategic diversification efforts.

Gross profit increased to $7.8 million as compared to $6.6 million in the fourth quarter of 2022 and $4.6 million in the year-ago quarter. Gross margin improved to 53.8% of revenues from 47% in the prior quarter, and 47.9% in the first quarter of 2022.

The increases were the result of greater fixed cost coverage from the higher revenue base; price increases and revenue mix between product, service, customers purchasing product in the period;’ and the contributions from diversified revenue streams as well as typical fluctuations in inventory and warranty reserves.

Total operating expenses for the fourth quarter were approximately $4.5 million compared to $4.3 million in the fourth quarter and $3.9 million in the year ago quarter. The sequential and year-over-year increases reflect the impact of headcount additions and overall cost inflation across the business.

Net income for the first quarter was approximately $2.6 million or $0.05 per diluted share. This compares to net income of $1.8 million or $0.04 per diluted share in the fourth quarter of 2022 and net income of $627,000 or $0.01 per diluted share in the first quarter of last year.

Cash flow from operations in the first quarter was approximately $474,000 compared to a negative $1.2 million in the prior-year quarter. Our inventory balance at the end of the quarter was approximately $10.6 million compared to $10.3 million at the end of 2022.

We continue to see disruptions within the supply chain for certain products and expect this will remain for several quarters. We continue to work with our suppliers to obtain the parts and components that our solutions require and are already looking to secure supplies for 2024. Overall, we are pleased with the start to 2023.

We believe we can maintain the progress in our legacy business throughout the year, which will be aided by our strategic diversification strategy. We have $16.3 million of cash and liquid investments and remain debt-free.

We are excited to announce that our Board of Directors has approved another $2 million share repurchase program that will run through April of 2024. We believe our stock is undervalued and that repurchasing stock at current prices is a good way to return value to our shareholders.

I will now turn the call over to Cam to provide an overview of our business.

Cam?.

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Thank you, Ryan. Q1 represented one of the strongest quarters in our history, surpassing our strong 2022 Q3 and Q4 results. As Ryan mentioned, the Profire team has now achieved eight consecutive quarters of top-line revenue growth, and we continue to improve and deliver consistent operational and financial results across our business.

Our strong performance reflects the chemistry of our industry leading solutions and customer-centric culture driven by our team. We remain focused on our strategic initiatives to secure, protect, and grow our core legacy business and diversification of our revenue streams within the petroleum industry as well as in new industries.

This focus guides our research and product development as well as our sales, marketing, and customer experience strategies. Let’s start with our upstream and midstream business. In the quarter, our core market benefited from stability in commodity prices and drilling and well completion activity.

Investment in automation, including Profire burner management solutions, remains paramount to producers and operators as they focus on increased safety and efficiency of their production equipment, reducing on-site emissions and streamlining operational efficiency. Our share in this market has never been stronger.

We continue to find new opportunities directly or through our resale partners to retrofit legacy thermal appliances as well as support new construction as drilling and completion activity, continues to support global production demand.

Accretive tailwinds such as emissions regulations and ESG pressures continue to support Profire’s ability to capture what we believe to be an expanding total addressable market. We continue to see consolidation as larger E&Ps acquire smaller operators, allowing streamlined operations and cost reductions, strategically lowering breakeven costs.

We expect this trend to continue and believe that it is a positive outcome for greater adoption of Profire’s industry leading burner and combustion management solutions. We have now supported the integration of over 85,000 burner management solutions in this part of our business.

We have successfully executed our strategy to increase our average revenue per BMS unit, adding greater value to our customers as we provide them with complete burner management solutions. Looking at our natural gas transmission and utility market segment, Q1 sales activity was on par with our expectations.

We continue to find new opportunities for retrofits of legacy thermal appliances with new customers. Our customer base in this market segment continues to grow as we collaborate on solutions that support upgrading existing heated appliances as well as ensuring new heaters are delivered to site with Profire solutions installed from the OEM.

This customer base includes Dominion Energy, National Grid, ATCO Gas, National Fuel, Fortis, as well as numerous OEMs and strategic partners such as Mulcare Pipeline Solutions and the Blythe Company.

We continue to consider additional partners that have experienced infrastructure and customer relationships in markets where Profire does not have a sales and service presence. Let’s turn to our critical energy infrastructure market focus or what we used to refer to as the downstream side of midstream.

Leveraging our premium brand, we continue to gain meaningful traction in this diversified market and revenue opportunity. In the quarter, we completed projects and filled orders with notable customers, including Equitrans Midstream, Enterprise Products, DCP Midstream, EnLink, Energy Transfer, and Kinder Morgan.

We also continued to receive orders from OEMs who manufacture thermal appliances for this segment of the energy industry. In 2022, we achieved near triple-digit revenue growth year over year in this area of revenue and customer diversification.

In the quarter, we were able to recognize revenue and receive new purchase orders, which could enable us to repeat year-over-year growth at nearly the same pace in 2023.

New and repeat business with this customer base reinforces our position as an emerging, strong, and reputable alternative to traditional incumbents who have historically owned this market.

Project planning, design, delivery, and execution backed by reliable and performance-driven products, solutions, and service support our customers with an exceptional experience, which we believe will lead to increased growth and specification.

Turning to our progress in non-oil and gas and industrial markets, we continue to build from the successes of 2022, where we achieved over 400% revenue growth year over year, and we continue to see significant opportunities in 2023.

In the quarter, we fulfilled orders for various customers in mining and metal, landfill, food and beverage, and renewable natural gas production. In the quarter, we were able to receive repeat orders from one of the United States’ largest producers of renewable natural gas.

We continue to look for opportunities to expand our revenue within this exciting and growing industry, which supports the production of renewable natural gas and reduction of CO2 emissions at landfills and agricultural facilities. Recently, we were invited to scope and assess potential upgrades of thermal appliances at a small batch refinery.

We believe our success, performance, and track record in our critical energy infrastructure segment will enable us to leverage our project list and capabilities in the refinery and petrochemical industry.

As a result of positive referrals received from an EPC who we collaborated with on a project in 2022, we have been introduced to several project opportunities which entail heat-treating processes for automotive and metallurgy coating.

We continued business development activities related to projects that support wastewater management solutions as well as potential landfill biogas projects. Our revenue diversification strategy continues to focus efforts in developing sales and marketing, service capability, engineering design and support, and product development in this space.

We are optimistic that we can continue to attract new customers and deliver on project opportunities, which will strengthen our value proposition and reputation as a leading provider of industrial burner and combustion management solutions and technologies.

As we look forward, we remain optimistic that many of the tailwinds we benefited from in 2022 and the first quarter will continue. Global demand for energy continues to grow. The North American oil and gas industry continues to give indication of investment in automation solutions, and we believe that the oil and gas industry will remain stable.

Lastly, we see a strong customer need for our products and our diversification strategy. Research and product development remains critical to our future. Our strategically balanced approach to focus on short, mid, and long-term product and solution capability remains intact.

We believe Profire’s value proposition to our existing markets and customer remains strong as our technology solutions, engineering capability, and technical service expertise continue to provide a compelling alternative to that of our competition.

As we develop both core and new markets, we are confident that our solutions will continue to provide industry with safety, reliability, compliance, efficiency, and environmental protection. Before we turn to questions, Ryan and I would like to thank you for your interest in and support of Profire.

To the Profire team, we thank you for your perseverance, creativity, and commitment to our customers and each other and for the work you do each and every day to enable our ongoing success.

Operator, would you please provide the appropriate instructions, so we can get the Q&A started?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Rob Brown from Lake Street Capital. Please go ahead..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Good morning, Rob..

Rob Brown

Nice quarter. I just wanted to dig in a little bit on the demand environment. I think you mentioned oil and gas being stable and seeing good strength there.

But how do you – what are you hearing from customers in terms of the marketplace and demand continuing throughout the year, and maybe what’s driving that in the different markets?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Yes. Certainly, we appreciate the question there. And as we look at things from a macroenvironment from a pricing perspective, oil price, natural gas price, they are – obviously have come down significantly from where they were a year ago.

But historically, these are still quite strong prices, and E&Ps, producers are still making good money with this level of pricing.

So we see that as long as pricing holds steady or stable in this environment or it goes up from here, which is where we think things are still headed for the next year plus, it may be potentially a couple of years beyond that.

But in that environment, we think that the demand continues to stay, as we talked about in our prepared remarks, for catch up on ongoing deferred maintenance over the last 5-plus years, and then also significant investments in new technology, focusing on ESG initiatives, on increased efficiencies, challenges, dealing with labor in the environment, and so forth.

But I’ll let Cam make a few comments on more specifics from what we’re seeing from customers directly..

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Yes, absolutely. As we mentioned in our comments, we see a lot of consolidation. We’ve seen it, and we expect that to continue. And more of the strategy that we’re seeing from E&Ps and our customers, if they have discussions with us, is not so much the land grab. The land grab is gone, or it’s done. By far, it’s done.

They have more than enough opportunity with acreage, with permits to keep going. So we look at our customer bases. They don’t necessarily need the capital they needed in the past. Of course, with an acquisition, they would. But as they continue to do these acquisitions, they are just going to buy assets from a lot of the independents.

You’ll see the consolidation, which – the whole goal of it is to lower their operating costs. And so, as we mentioned in the call, it’s just a perfect storm for Profire, where they are going to need automation. They are going to do it. We’ve always talked about how we have this huge addressable market that varies year to year based on commodity prices.

Well, we believed with – we mentioned ESG pressures, new legislation from the EPA, cleaning things up that if they are going to keep a well on, they are going to keep a heated asset going. If you’re going to keep a pad running, you’re going to put burner management on it.

And we’ve seen a large uptick, especially in the last three quarters, on retrofits, both directly for us doing them ourselves as well as with our partner. So customers are – it’s not drill, baby, drill. It’s a different thing now. It’s keeping production steady and slightly increasing it, or it will still see an increase in production for the year.

LNG is going to, we think, especially the Northeast and the Permian, they see the opportunity that exists in the world for LNG exports, and they are building towards it..

Rob Brown

It’s good overview. Thank you.

And then on the diversification efforts, where is that as a percent of revenue today? And how is that pipeline shaping up for the next – the rest of this year and into next year?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Yes, so as we mentioned in our last call, Q4 call last year in 2022, we saw a significant increase in diversification revenue and success. We were at 6% of total revenues for the year last year. For Q1 we’ve had a little bit of a slower start to the year as far as revenue coming in during the quarter.

We still saw some good strength in that critical energy infrastructure segment. It was a little bit slower in the non-oil and gas side of things as far as revenue during the quarter, but we had really good success during the quarter as far as the backlog and orders coming in.

Cam, do you want to comment on that side of the equation there?.

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Yes, absolutely. The sales pipeline, the activity, the customers and projects that we’re engaging with, the repeat business, and repeat, I guess, opportunity to bid on projects in the quarter was strong. And so, we just think it lends as we – as you’ve mentioned.

We feel like we can get really good strong growth this year like last year, maybe not to the tune of nearly 400%, but we do think that we are on a great trajectory with the activity that’s happening. It’s always great to get a customer that has used you for the first time in a year, last year, the fiscal year.

And then, they have come back because they have got more projects. As we mentioned, one of the EPCs, an engineering consultancy firm that does some very interesting industrial projects, we’ve done a great job for them on one of their steel plants that they are the engineer for.

And they have now brought us several opportunities where we’re looking at some more heat-treating applications for Profire. We’re also starting to see that it’s starting to branch out into new geographies within the United States and Canada.

And as such, we are looking at – at what point do we add a strategic partner? It’s one thing to get something installed and completed in area, but it needs to be taken care of and serviced incrementally. So we’re looking at more partners to bring into the Profire fold in areas where we don’t have people..

Rob Brown

Okay, thank you very much. I’ll turn it over..

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Thanks, Rob..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Thanks, Rob..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The next question is form Jim McIlree from Dawson James. Please go ahead..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Good morning, Jim..

Jim McIlree

Hey, guys, good morning. Can you talk about pricing if – any recent pricing actions and what you’re seeing on your ability to get price increases? Thanks..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Cam, do you want comment on that?.

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Yes. We, of course, did some price increasing in 2022. We also have done it in 2023. We’ve been able to, to a degree, test our market and to see where we can get to. We’ve also been able to see price increases from our competitors. We know that they have increased their prices.

Within our core legacy business or upstream, midstream and downstream utility, do they like it? No. Do they accept it? Yes. The great thing is we’ve been able to continue to command a premium.

We are the highest price when it comes to that market for burner management solutions, whereas on the other hand, in our critical energy infrastructure space and outside of oil and gas, we’re more on the lower side, and we’ve been able to increase those prices as well. So really, we have increased our service rates.

We’ve increased our resale parts, not to the degree we’d like to on that – in that side because those are some of the parts and components that people can get just anywhere. So we have to be cautious on that. We don’t want to give away that business, which we’ve worked hard to get.

But on our proprietary products, we’ve definitely been able to raise the prices there..

Jim McIlree

And are there expectations for additional price increases for the rest of the year?.

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

We will be looking at a price increase, no doubt in the fourth quarter, which, again, really won’t take affect till the following year. We will be increasing our service rates most likely here in the next quarter as well..

Jim McIlree

Great. And lastly, can you address cost pressures that you’ve been encountering? Part of that, any sort of lingering issues you’ve had with obtaining the parts that you need? I know that that’s been an issue in the past 12 months or so.

So if you can address whether or not that’s changed, so the cost pressure on your parts as well as the availability? Thank you..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Yes, for sure. On the cost pressure side, we certainly are seeing a better environment than we were a year ago. A lot of pressure last year at this time and throughout the year, especially on the labor market, the markets in the main areas where our people are located, have been quite challenging.

Very, very good labor rates for employees and workers in those areas, so finding people, keeping people, retaining people was quite a challenge throughout 2022. That pressure is not entirely gone. We think it’s come down a little bit.

It’s been a little less pressure, a little less turnover in some of our areas, But still, our employees are feeling the pinch from inflation and want help with that or relief from that, of course. And so, we do what we can. We’ve gone through our annual reviews and raises process earlier this year and made adjustments to labor rates and compensation.

We also had a really good year last year, so we were able to pay out some bonuses and better bonuses than in many years of the past. So we think we are doing the right things to keep our people and to continue to share with them the benefits of having a good year here at Profire.

We expect again that those pressures will continue, that the labor market will continue to be challenging and that we want to continue to retain our people for sure.

From a component and supply chain perspective, similar story, where we think some of the pressures have eased up a bit, but there is still ongoing pressures for key components out of Asia, electronics, plastics, some metals as well.

So as we work through those challenges, and our team has become very good at working through those challenges, helping us keep product on the shelf and coming in the door, we’re finding some relief. But we also find new areas of difficulty in parts that are either no longer available or have lost some of the quality that they once had.

And we are having to find other alternatives and work those in through certifications and other processes with our manufacturers. So unfortunately, we see that that pressure is going to probably continue throughout this year and maybe even into early next year in various ways. Again, we hope that it continues to get better.

But for example, our newer system, the 2200 the components for that system are different than our legacy 2100 system. And those, for the 2200 system, are more challenging to get and have had more price inflation. We’ve had to go more to broker markets and pay premiums in order to keep those parts moving.

We do again see some relief coming in the next 12 to 18 months in some of the orders there. But it’s the environment that we’re still in, and it’s still going to continue for some time..

Jim McIlree

Great. That’s helpful. And my last one is, Ryan, in your response, you were talking about the 2200 versus the 2100.

Can you just update us on the revenue split between the two?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Yes, I don’t have an exact split. And even in this quarter, some of the benefit that we saw in the gross margin percentage came because we sold a lot more of the 2100s and a lot less of the 2200s, and that was largely an availability challenge with some of those components.

The 2100s continue to have a better margin at the moment because of all of the things I was just describing in relation to them. We still believe that the 2200 is the future for Profire, and the 2100 is nearing its end of life. And we’ve been extending that and had to extend that because of the supply chain challenges. But we’re moving forward again.

We will be shifting once the supply chain improves and stabilizes. For the 2200, we will certainly be shifting that product to be the main product that we offer. But right now, Q1, again, I don’t know the percentages. But the bulk of what we sold would have been in the 2200s – or sorry, 2100s.

Only a few of the 2200s would have gone out, and we would have continued to sell 3100, which is again, a good, stable product. And that’s servicing largely that critical energy infrastructure stream that we are focusing on, and so seeing good rates there as well.

But that shift will need to continue to happen over time as the supply chain allows us to do that..

Jim McIlree

That’s great. Thank you so much and that’s it for me..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Excellent. Thanks, Jim..

Operator

The next question is form John Bair from Ascend Wealth Advisors. Please go ahead..

John Bair

Thank you. Hey, guys, nice quarter. Great momentum going there, and hope it continues to roll along. Two questions, you talked about the labor issues, I guess, retaining existing employees and so forth. I’m curious as to whether or not you’re seeing any pressures as you expand into non-oil and gas markets.

Are you having to bring in new employees to help address that area, or is that something that can be expanded upon it internally?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Cam, do you want to talk about our efforts on the sales and service side as it relates to those markets?.

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Yes, you bet. Hi, John. So far, we’ve brought on a lot of the talent that we wanted for that space. Going back, well, the business leader that leads it almost 8 years ago, obviously, he has experience in all of our industries. But we’ve put some horsepower behind that, really, in 2021 and 2022.

As we go forward in some of the new markets we’re looking at, it’s more the support in the back end from an engineering perspective and applications-type view of these things. When we look at – like an application team that can support it.

So we don’t see the need to drastically increase the sales and service footprint to take care of these industries. Will we add here and there? Yes, we will. Will we look at expanding our partner network, especially in areas where we just don’t have bricks-and-mortar? We are going to aggressively be looking at that.

So we mentioned a couple on the call that we are choosing strategic partnerships with the whole – they are mainly focused on downstream utility in certain geography areas in the United States.

There is a bunch of area, Midwest, West Coast, even in some of our areas where we have people where we want to look to add partners who have existing relationships with whatever industrial type of plants happen to be in those areas.

We’re never going to build a knock on all the doors, but we think, with what we’ve been able to do so far, those companies who are in those spaces that sell to those types of customers, whether that be asphalt plants or gravel drying or mining, whatever it might be, they have partners.

They have companies that do this type of work, and they probably are feeling the pains that a lot of the people were running into with the incumbent suppliers of automation, especially burner management, in those spaces. So we think the doors open to the degree where we can come in and provide a very valuable alternative.

So I guess, back again to your question, we’re not really needing to add a ton of people to expand. We will have to strategically hire, and we will. But for the most part, it’s a focus on finding those partners who are in those spaces with those relationships..

John Bair

Well, that’s good. It’s a good way to leverage.

And then, another question on capital allocation and that is, at what point would Profire consider perhaps initiating a small dividend or a special dividend, something like that, as opposed to strictly a share buyback situation? What would need to happen to seriously consider doing something like that?.

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

one that’s either you really want us to pay a dividend; or two, you really don’t want us to pay a dividend.

And as we’ve talked about it internally, senior management with the Board, we look at it as right now, we think that there are other good sources that we can deploy our capital to that are important to us that we want to continue to see growth as opposed to starting to pay a dividend.

But once you start a dividend, it seems nearly impossible to stop it without significant consequences. And I understand there could be the concept of special one-time-type dividend, and we may consider that. But right now, we think that there are other ways that are probably better for us.

We think our share price is at a bargain right now that we haven’t gotten recognition over the prior three quarters’ significant historic record performance. It hasn’t materialized into the share price. And if that’s going to continue, then we’re certainly going to deploy some capital and buy some shares back.

As we look at other ways to continue to grow, I think, with our performance and where we think the company is headed, we’re going to continue to cash flow. So we expect that we should probably be able to fund this dividend just from our operating cash flow over the next 12 months.

But we will see, and – I mean, hopefully, after this report is more widely known from what we published yesterday that the share price might react and move up from where it is today. But if it stays at these levels, then we will certainly be deploying capital to acquire some shares back..

John Bair

Fair enough. Very good. Thanks a lot. Keep up the good work. Thank you..

Ryan Oviatt Co-Chief Executive Officer, Co-President, Chief Financial Officer, Treasurer & Director

Alright. Thanks, John..

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Thank you, John..

Operator

This concludes the question-and-answer session. I would like to hand the call back over to management for closing remarks..

Cameron Tidball Co-Chief Executive Officer & Co-President

Thank you everyone for joining us on our call today and thank you for all your continued support. As always, we’re available for any discussions or questions you may have. Additionally, we will be participating at the EF Hutton Conference tomorrow in New York and Three Part Advisors’ virtual conference in June.

Thank you, everyone, and have a great day..

Operator

This concludes today’s conference call. You may disconnect your lines. Thank you for participating, and have a pleasant day..

ALL TRANSCRIPTS
2024 Q-2 Q-1
2023 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2022 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2021 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2020 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2019 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2018 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2017 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2016 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2 Q-1
2015 Q-4 Q-3 Q-2