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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q2
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Executives

Bruce Campbell - Chairman, President and CEO Mike Morris - Senior Vice President and CFO.

Analysts

Jason Seidl - Cowen Scott Group - Wolfe Research David Ross - Stifel Todd Fowler - KeyBanc Capital Markets.

Operator

Thank you for joining Forward Air Corporation's Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Release Conference Call. Before we begin, I'd like to point out that both the press release and webcast presentation for this call are accessible on the Investor Relations section Forward Air's website at www.forwardaircorp.com.

With us this morning are Chairman, President and CEO, Bruce Campbell; and Senior Vice President and CFO, Mike Morris. By now, you should have received the press release announcing our second quarter 2017 results, which were furnished at SEC on Form 8-K and on the wire yesterday after market close.

Please be aware that during this conference call, we'll be making forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements, among others, regarding the company's outlook for the third quarter and fiscal year of 2017.

These statements are based on current information and our current expectations. As such, they are subject to risks and other factors that may cause actual operations and results to differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements.

For additional information concerning these risks and factors, please refer to our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission, and the press release and webcast presentation relating to this earnings call.

The company undertakes no obligation to update any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

Today's presentation will include non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted income from operations, adjusted income before taxes, adjusted income taxes, adjusted net income and adjusted diluted earnings per share. These non-GAAP financial measures exclude those items that we believe affect comparability.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP financial measures to their respective GAAP measures is set forth in our second quarter 2017 earnings press release. The company appreciates your attendance on today's call, any the review of the second quarter 2017 press release, including Bruce and Mike's comments, and guidance information provided therein.

To make the most of today's time, you have all given Forward Air this morning, we will move directly to the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Just a brief reminder, today's conference is also being recorded. We do thank you..

Operator

The floor is now open for questions and comments. Looks like first we'll go to the line of Jack Atkins with Stephens. Your line is open..

Unidentified Analyst

Hi. Thanks. This is actually [ph] Andrew (02:45) on for Jack. I guess as we look at core linehaul yield, is down I think about 3% year-over-year in the quarter. I think this is the third quarter in a row now we've seen down year-over-year yields.

Can you help us think through what degree this is due to weight per shipment or length of haul mix versus your core pricing?.

Bruce Campbell

I think it's a combination of all those factors, because yield sometimes decreases, it's not necessarily a pricing issue. As you pointed out, it can be length of haul can be shipment size, et cetera. So we watch it very closely as you might have imagined.

You'd probably see us do some incremental changes as we go forward in the year and we'll get the yield back to what it needs to be..

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Good to hear.

And then, Bruce, I know you've been asked before about GRI this year, but just what we've seen from the broader LTL market in recent months, plus the potential for inflationary pressures from driver wages, has your thinking on the GRI changed at all?.

Bruce Campbell

We're going through that process as we sit here today. We'll probably in a better shape about a month from now to tell you exactly what we're going to do. For the factors that you just listed, I think, you'll probably see some what we call structural changes in our pricing model..

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. Good to hear.

And you know -- Mike, could you provide an update on your LTL 3PL initiative you guys have going on?.

Mike Morris

Yes. Going well. We're seeing nice growth in this initiative ahead of our internal plans. We're also in the process of making the necessary adjustments in our network to where we can have better dispatch capabilities at the terminals and bring in more of an owner-operator content in the pickup and delivery.

Let me expand on this and loop back to your prior question if I could for a second, Andrew.

When you're in these 3PL TMS systems, you are bidding on freight where you're going to have a door-to-door offering, you're going to pick it up, you're going to linehaul it, you're going to deliver it and so you're going to see a continued growth in the pickup and delivery aspect of our business as we continue to grow in this space.

But when we price it, we price it per pound and that's a little different than the legacy setting around Complete, where you price three distinct legs of the transaction and you invoice them separately, the pickup, the linehaul, the delivery.

So we have to internally allocate that revenue between those lags and then there's math behind it, but it is an allocation.

And so as we continue to grow in this space, it's going to start to make more and more sense to look at our yields on a system basis ex-fuel, where linehaul and PD -- P&D are smashed together and so per your prior comment, if you look at our systems yields this past quarter, they were essentially flat. They were down 30 basis points.

You're going to see more of that effect as we grow our door-to-door offerings to grow in these markets that we're looking to expand in, and at some point, we may change what we disclose from a yield perspective more along the lines of a common carrier, not that we would become a common carrier.

So what you would expect to see from the other common carriers, where you're just get a yield number.

Does that make sense?.

Unidentified Analyst

Yes. No. That's helpful. That's helpful. .

Mike Morris

And so the other thing that's going on back to your prior question is, we are growing very nicely this initiative. It's bringing a different mix of freight in that has a more of a varying characteristic than the legacy tonnage, if you will, if I can group it like that.

We're seeing a wide diversity of length of haul and weight per shipment that is having the standard impacts on stated yield that you hear from the other LTLs. So you're going to see more of that.

There is a more noise going on underneath the yield curtain, but when we strip things down to look at it on a revenue per ton per mile basis, we continue to see freight that we like at rates that we think are profitable..

Unidentified Analyst

That is helpful. And then, Mike, on the $0.05, the benefit from the Towne indemnification.

Could you provide some color or help us think about how that breaks out and kind of where that fell in the P&L?.

Mike Morris

Sure. So the -- we had two things Towne, and when I say Towne, I'm referring to the Towne indemnification proceeds, so I'll just call it Towne, and Atlantic, the effect of the Atlantic acquisition. Those matters were not finalized at the time of our last quarter call when we gave our guidance and so we excluded those matters from our guidance.

Towne was $1.6 million of proceeds that flowed through our operating income. The EPS effect of that was about $0.04, $0.03 of an operating income effect and $0.01 was relate – it was an impact it had on the tax rate.

Of that $1.6 million, the biggest piece of it, which was $900,000 was in LTL and that landed in their other OpEx line and it was an indemnification for professional fees that we'd incurred related to some claims that we inherited in the Towne acquisition and so it's going back against professional fees, which is in other OpEx in the LTL P&L.

The other big piece of it was Corp $600,000. This would land, we don't have a standalone Corp P&L, so you would see this in the consolidated P&L. It went against operating leases.

We were indemnified for certain operating leases that we inherited, where the terms ended up being different than what we had expected when we did the transaction and so that's a good guide against the operating lease line. So that's how Towne breaks down. It was $0.04.

And then, we did not include Atlantic, but Atlantic is performing better than we expected. And Atlantic contributed about $600,000 of operating income in the second quarter for the short half a quarter period that we owned Atlantic and so that was about $0.01. So that's the breakout of the $0.05.

If you back the $0.05 out of the $0.64, we landed at $0.59, which was the high end of our guidance range..

Unidentified Analyst

Got you. That is helpful.

Bruce, as I look at solutions, OR there has been running at about, call it 500 basis points better year-over-year through the first half of this year?.

Bruce Campbell

Correct..

Unidentified Analyst

Should we expect a similar level of OR improvement in the second half?.

Bruce Campbell

I hope so. We worked hard to get it to where it is. Our team there has really stabilized. They're doing a great job. They're getting additional wins of business. Seems like almost daily we picked up another almost $5 million of new business this week that will help us going into the third quarters and fourth quarters.

So they're going along really well I think..

Unidentified Analyst

That's good to hear.

And then last one from me, Mike, could you give us the monthly volume trends in Expedited LTL in the 2Q, then what the guidance assumes in terms of volume and yield for the 3Q?.

Mike Morris

Sure. In the second quarter, our year-over-year tonnage per day, April was up 2.4%, May was up 2.0% and June was up 5.3%. So, nice acceleration coming into the end of the quarter. With respect to our outlook, we're expecting high single digits year-on-year average daily tonnage growth for LTL. We think that's going to come from our growth initiatives.

It feels like the macro climate is getting a little better. But I do want to remind you that we have a soft comparable in the third quarter of 2016. You may recall last August we hit a bit of an air pocket in our tonnage and so we're lapping a soft comp.

Add those things together, we think we'll have average daily tonnage up in the high single digits range..

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. That's all for me. Congrats on a good quarter..

Mike Morris

Thank you..

Operator

We'll take next – we'll go to Jason Seidl with Cowen. Your line is open..

Jason Seidl

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, gentlemen. Two quick ones from me here. One, hearing a transport company out there talk about preparing for peak season. Some of their customers are telling them that peak season is actually going to be starting early this year.

Didn't know what you heard from some of your customers, particularly in the Pool area?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. That probably is a very fair assessment. When new thing happen, especially Pool, what we're going through is the back-to- school portion right now. So we're not convinced that we'll see a move up if you will of the peak season, but wouldn't shock us and we're prepared if that happens..

Jason Seidl

And how's back-to-school been for Pool?.

Bruce Campbell

Good. We're pleased..

Jason Seidl

Okay. And I guess the other thing piggybacking on the new LTL services and you guys are going to, I guess, change how you report in the yield going forward.

Could you sort of walk us through what type of an impact that's going to have on yield on a year-over-year basis, all things being equal just looking at the mix of business change?.

Mike Morris

I wouldn't definitively say, we're going to change what we disclose. I just wanted to signal that we're looking at it, just to be clear..

Jason Seidl

Okay.

Well, can you walk us through sort of what kind of change you expect in terms of just on the mix of business portion of that?.

Mike Morris

I think you're going to see denser freight that....

Bruce Campbell

So quickly from a real simplistic way to look at it, if you pickup a 5,000 pound shipment, we're going to get a lower rate per 100-weight and we give you for 600-pound shipment. So, part of that yield going down, is good. There's nothing wrong with that. It's sufficient for us in our operating system, et cetera.

But we do want to make sure our yield in our normal business, our core business is hopefully going to improve as we go forward in the year. Right now it's basically flat.

So if you look at, let's say, out six months and this is truly a guess, because we haven't been through it and you look at the total overall yield of the corporation, if we're flat year-over-year, we'll be very happy. .

Jason Seidl

Okay. No. That's great color, commentary, guys. That's all I have. I appreciate the time as always..

Bruce Campbell

Thank you. .

Mike Morris

Thank you. .

Operator

Next we have Scott Group with Wolfe Research. Your line is open..

Ryan Greenwald

Hi, guys. This is Ryan Greenwald in for Scott Group..

Bruce Campbell

Good morning..

Ryan Greenwald

Congrats on the quarter and thanks for taking our call..

Bruce Campbell

Sure..

Ryan Greenwald

So, just kind of wanted some clarification on the third quarter outlook, so you guys kind of anticipate earnings to be down sequentially, so is that, if we exclude the Towne and the acquisition one-time that wasn't in guidance.

I guess, so why are we anticipating it to drop sequentially, can you kind of talk a little further on the drivers?.

Mike Morris

Yeah. Yeah. This is Mike, Ryan. We do expect a continuation of our growth trends and revenue. We think our strategic initiatives are going to continue to give us good revenue growth. In this particular quarter, we are expecting some cost headwinds that we're going to have to manage around. We have increased merit pay.

We've got higher incentive compensation. Insurance premiums on a year-over-year basis are going to be higher and we have some expectation for some adverse reserves development that we're going to have manage around as well. So we've got some cost headwinds in this quarter that we're concerned about.

The bigger picture we believe we can continue to grow the company..

Ryan Greenwald

Got you. Great..

Mike Morris

Does that help?.

Ryan Greenwald

Yes.

And so moving over the driver recruitment problems, can you kind of talk a little bit further about that and your expectations for pay increases and how quickly we can offset that with pricing?.

Bruce Campbell

Sure. We went through – recruiting to me and the way the company views it, we go through cycles. It's hard to avoid a down cycle and we just went through the bad period, as we are going into really the latter part of the quarter, where we had to go outside and get more and more outside carriers to help supplement our fleet.

We have since turned that around, have added almost 10 teams a week for the last three weeks or four weeks, so we're pleased with the growth that we've had there. But we have more work to do. We do anticipate an increase in owner-operator pay per mile. We'll be ready to talk about that in about 30 days. But that's without question is going to happen.

If we increase our pay, obvious, to our owner operators two things that we really work on to help negate that. One is, add more and more teams, so we are paying $0.50 more mile when we go to outside carriers, which we think we can do.

And then, secondly, we're going to have to look real hard as we discussed earlier at our pricing, because that's a hard cost to negate as we move forward. But, overall right now, we like where we are -- more work to do, have to be prepared for peak season and I think our team will get us there. .

Ryan Greenwald

Got you. Thank you.

So net-net cost should come down?.

Bruce Campbell

Absolutely..

Ryan Greenwald

Okay..

Bruce Campbell

What you saw in the second quarter with the increase in PT even though it's still a decent number, it didn't match last year's. Last year's PT in the second quarter was probably the best in the history of our company. When you start supplementing that cost as we talked about earlier, with outside carriers, it hurts.

So, again our drive is it to get rid of that cost as we go forward every year and to be better prepared as we hit peak season..

Ryan Greenwald

Makes sense. Thank you. And then, lastly, on the volume growth outlook, does that include an expectation of a GRI and....

Bruce Campbell

No. It does not..

Mike Morris

No. It doesn't..

Ryan Greenwald

Okay. Thank you. That's all for us..

Bruce Campbell

Great. Thank you..

Mike Morris

Thanks, Ryan..

Operator

Next we have the line of the David Ross with Stifel. Your line is open..

David Ross

Yes. Good morning, gentlemen..

Bruce Campbell

Good morning..

Mike Morris

Good morning..

David Ross

First, you talked about the nice new wins you're getting in the Pool side of things.

Can you talk about any startup costs, because in the past you've grown that segment, there's been some startup costs that haven't allowed the margins to expand, do you think you're past that or should be less so in the second half of this year?.

Bruce Campbell

Are you really asking me a question about solutions..

David Ross

I am starting with the question from solutions. That's my I lead..

Bruce Campbell

It depends on the type of business we onboard. So if it's more of a dedicated-type operation, then we do have startup cost. Most of the business we're bringing on board, the new business wins are what we call integrated and those do not have much if any additional costs, so we just blended in with our existing business..

David Ross

And then, good news on the Atlantic side, because I guess my prior understanding was that wasn't going to become accretive until 4Q.

So if you look at $600,000 in the second quarter, what's the seasonality of that business? Could we assume $1.2 million EBIT run rate for 3Q and 4Q?.

Mike Morris

No. I think, 3Q maybe a penny, penny and half, 4Q penny and a half. There's still some integration cost that are being incurred as we integrate them. And -- so I'd say for full year, in the range of $0.03 and which is about what we said in the second quarter call. We said $0.02 to $0.03 in the second – on the prior quarter call.

I'd say $0.03 feels a little more likely. And then, from an EBITDA perspective we said $2.5 million on the last quarter call. It's probably $3 million….

David Ross

Yeah..

Mike Morris

… Atlantic is performing very well..

David Ross

That's good. And then we -- if we look at TLX, the margins were roughly cut in half last year.

Is there any reason that they can't return back closer to double-digit that we saw back in ‘15?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. They'll get back. It's truly a matter of drivers. They did have a couple of business startups that required them to place the equipment that cost them quite a bit of money. But it really gets down to. You got to have owner operators. If you're doing all outside sourcing on this business, it hurts your margin. So they have a goal in place.

We think they're going to improve it and get to, back to the double-digit as you go forward..

David Ross

Okay. If we look at owner operators doing about half the miles, right now..

Bruce Campbell

Yeah..

David Ross

Is there a target owner operator doing is 70% of the miles to get back their 80% of the miles.

How do you think about it?.

Bruce Campbell

It lot depends on the business and the sources of the business. But typically, we like to be at 65%, 35%..

David Ross

Okay..

Bruce Campbell

Right now, as you pointed out, we're simply not there. But we think we can get there. So a lot of work being done..

David Ross

Excellent. Well, thank you very much..

Bruce Campbell

Thank you. Have a good day. .

David Ross

You too..

Operator

Next we have the line of Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open..

Todd Fowler

Hi. Great. Thanks. Good morning, Bruce. Hi, Mike..

Bruce Campbell

How are you?.

Todd Fowler

Bruce, I'm fine. Thank you. Looking at the tonnage growth here in the quarter and the expectations for the back half of the year, I understand there is some comparisons going on.

But can you talk a little bit with the internal initiatives and some of the growth strategies that you have, what sort of business are you targeting? Is that your traditional freight forward or are you specifically going after some of the ecommerce kind of the bulky stuff that we're now seeing moved through the ecommerce channel? Can you talk a little bit about what you're kind of targeting to bring into the network at this point?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. The quick answer is, yes, to all that. The -- our team continues to work with our forwarding customers. We see a more favorable atmosphere out there. The forwarders are doing well, better than in the past two years or three years. So we're happy with that. I want to make sure we're in position to grab that additional business that they are doing.

We also have initiatives into the 3PL business. That's taken us a while to get systems in place, to get owner operator delivery in place throughout the nation. We are close to having our entire network built out on that. When that occurs, you'll see even more business come out of the 3PL initiative.

So far they've really done a good job and we're just about, I should say, ready to gear it up big time..

Todd Fowler

And what exactly does that mean, Bruce, as far as is that a bigger push with that customer base or I don't know if I fully understand the comment?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah, Todd….

Todd Fowler

And I'm guessing there's probably some intentional vagueness in there as well, right?.

Bruce Campbell

3PL business is you post your price, they either like your price or they don't. What it does require us to do is develop and we have done is different back office functions, if you will. Our systems are different for that business. They are not difficult. Everybody does. But you have to have. So it took us a little while, normal implementation of that.

We now have that in place. The other thing that has to go on is because we're doing more and more pickup and delivery, is we have to have – we prefer to have, let me say, our own owner operator pickup and delivery network.

We are probably halfway through the process of adding owner operators in Dallas as an example, where they can go out and either pickup or delivery. It's much more cost efficient for us to do it as opposed to outsourcing it, but it takes time. You can't recruit that overnight. You can't train your local people overnight.

We're installing in about 75% of the way through on a local pickup and delivery software program that is really outstanding. We just simply don't have it all the way there yet.

We will by the end of the third quarter and that's why we really feel as we go forward that this business is going to provide a lot of additional volumes to the Forward Air network.

That works for you?.

Todd Fowler

Yeah. It's crystal clear now. Thank you. So, just another question kind of along those lines, as you think about how the freight in your network has changed the profile of it over the last several years.

I know that you guys are being thoughtful about your pricing actions and how you're getting compensated and I know that some – other people are handling the changes in freight profile have struggled a little bit with that mix.

What I am getting at is structurally -- and your operating ratio is still fantastic, but structurally do you think you can still show improvement within the operating ratio maybe 200 basis points down to the low-80s within the LTL business or is there something that has structurally changed within just the freight profile that may prohibit you from getting there?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. We can get there. When you get in OR that low, everything has to be perfect. So you can't have any bumps, you can't do any silly things. But if everything is perfect, we can certainly or close to, we can certainly get there. We understand how to price freight better than we ever have.

So we know where we have a problem, where we don't have the problem on pricing. Our people have – as you said freight has changed dramatically and our people have learnt how to we call it hug freight, you got to handle as opposed to fork lifting it. Those are processes that you go through with any type of new business.

So I think our team has done a really good job of adjusting and learning how to handle it the most efficient way we possibly can, which will then deliver good results to the bottomline..

Todd Fowler

I guess, we have come and expect perfection so maybe that's part of it. So, hey, Mike, just a couple of last quick ones. So there were comments earlier about the higher merit pay.

Do you have a number amount, was that in your original guidance for the second quarter and then what should our expectations be for merit pay for the rest of the year?.

Mike Morris

In -- yeah, we do anticipate this in our guidance, but we still get these questions of, hey, on an absolute year-over-year basis..

Todd Fowler

Right..

Mike Morris

Why are we seeing more profitability? In the third quarter if you take merit and incentive comp, you're probably at $2.5 million..

Todd Fowler

Year-over-year?.

Mike Morris

Yeah. I mean..

Todd Fowler

Okay..

Mike Morris

We are --our planning process means that we have a greater probability of paying a bonus, the improvements we've made. We have to lap that and then that'll just become part of the backdrop. But don't forget about insurance premiums. I mean, that's an issue in this – in our sector.

We've got some increased premiums, and as I mentioned, there are some reserves that we're concerned about in the third quarter, which I won't quantify that we have to manage..

Todd Fowler

Okay. And then, just lastly from an overall cost structure standpoint, this is maybe a little bit more of an intermediate term question. I think we all to a certain extent understand the cost pressures on owner operators and capacity, the salaries piece.

But is there anything else structurally within the network either facility cost or IT investments that you need to make that's substantial.

And I guess, I'm trying to think about cost inflation that you'd see over the next couple of years or is it a situation, where the infrastructure is in place and there's going to be things like insurance and things like driver pay that you should get the leverage on, if you're able to get the volume and yields that you are anticipating?.

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. The later part of your statement is exactly right..

Todd Fowler

Okay. So....

Bruce Campbell

We are….

Todd Fowler

Go ahead..

Bruce Campbell

Yeah. We're comfortable that – comfortable is probably a bad word. But we're working hard to make sure that our other costs stay in line. There is little we can do about insurance premiums. You have to obviously have a freight fleet, but it's going to – when two underwriters leave the market, you're going to pay an interest.

And then the owner operator pay as you well know subject to the supply and demand, and we're going to have pressure on that..

Todd Fowler

Okay. Those are the main ones that I had. Thanks for the time this morning..

Bruce Campbell

Thank you..

Mike Morris

Thanks..

Operator

And with no further questions here in queue, that does conclude Forward Air's second quarter 2017 earnings conference call. Please remember the webcast will be available on the Investor Relations section of Forward Air's website at forwardaircorp.com, shortly after this call. We do thank you very much for your participation. You may now disconnect..

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