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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2016 - Q2
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Executives

Bruce Campbell - Chairman, President and Chief Executive Officer Mike Morris - SVP and Chief Financial Officer.

Analysts

Vanck Zhu - Wolfe Research Todd Fowler - KeyBanc Capital Markets David Ross - Stifel Nicolaus John Barnes - RBC Capital Markets Kevin Sterling - BB&T Capital Markets Ben Hartford - Robert W. Baird David Campbell - Thompson Davis & Company.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen thank you for joining Forward Air Corporation’s second quarter 2016 earnings release conference call. Before we begin, I’d like to point out that both the press release and this call are accessible on the Investor Relations section of Forward Air’s website at www.forwardair.com.

With us this morning are Chairman, President and CEO, Bruce Campbell, and Senior Vice President and CFO, Mike Morris, and Advisor Rodney Bell. By now, you should have received a press release announcing second quarter 2016 results, which were furnished to the SEC on Form 8-K and on the wire yesterday after market closed.

Please be aware this conference call may contain forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, including statements among others regarding the company’s expected future financial performance.

For this purpose, any statements made during this call that are not statements of historical facts may be deemed to be forward-looking statements. Without limiting the foregoing, words such as believes, anticipates, plans, expects and similar expressions are intended to identify forward-looking statements.

You are hereby cautioned that these statements may be affected by the important factors among others set forth in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission and in the press release issued yesterday, and consequently actual operations and results may differ materially from the results discussed in the forward-looking statements.

The company undertakes no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise. Now I’ll turn the conference over to Bruce Campbell, Chairman, President and CEO of Forward Air. .

Bruce Campbell

Thank you operator, and thanks to each of you for joining our call today. In the past I’ve not made opening remarks but I feel it is important for me to do so today for two reasons. First, the performance of our Air expedited group during the quarter was simply outstanding.

We have finally been able to see the positive results of the Towne purchase after a year of hard work. Truly a great team effort. And secondly, this is my opportunity to publicly and personally thank Rodney Bell for his 20 plus years of service to the company. Truly a great effort benefitting all of us.

And finally, this is my first opportunity to publicly welcome Mike Morris to our team. We're excited he has joined us, and with that I'm now going to turn the call over to Mike. .

Mike Morris

Thank you, Bruce and good morning everyone. I am very pleased to be here today. Before I begin, I would also like to thank Rodney Bell for his nearly 25 years of service and for the value he created helping to make Forward Air a great company that it is today.

I look forward to working with Rodney over the next few months, and I and the entire organization wish him the best in his retirement. I will begin by highlighting how the TQI impairment will increase our book tax rate for 2016.

The goodwill portion of this TQI charge has no impact on our 2016 estimated tax expense because we will never benefit from this charge on our tax returns. However it does reduce our 2016 estimated pre-tax book income.

So when we calculate our GAAP tax rate, the numerator, our estimated tax expense, is unchanged but the denominator, our estimated pretax book income, is reduced. Therefore our book tax rate has to rise as it has to approximately 50%. For GAAP purposes, we expect to book to this rate for the balance of the year.

That said we will adjust for this TQI tax rate effect in our non-GAAP presentation which currently reflects an approximate 37% tax rate. We expect to use this rate for our non-GAAP presentation throughout 2016. Now I will provide some additional perspective on 2016 for your modeling purposes.

Regarding intangible asset amortization, the TQI impairment will reduce our quarterly amortization from $2.7 million per quarter to $2.3 million per quarter going forward. Regarding capital expenditures, we expect full year net CapEx to be approximately $45 million.

Finally, regarding shares, our full year diluted share count should be about 30,500,000 shares, and that is prior to the effect of any future share repurchases. With that, I will turn it over to John to open the line for Q&A.

John?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Scott Group with Wolfe Research. .

Vanck Zhu

Good morning all. It’s actually Vanck Zhu on for Scott Group. Just a few questions for me.

First, wondering what your LTL margin expectations are for 2H second half of this year?.

Bruce Campbell

We modeled an 83 OR for the balance of the year. And that makes a number of assumptions. So business levels stay relatively the same on a year-over-year basis. We don't get impacted by fuel surcharges on and on and on. So as we sit here today that’s the best we can tell you looking forward. .

Vanck Zhu

And it looks like purchased transportation took a good step-down this quarter, was there any – what’s the driver behind the lower PT rate relative to past quarters?.

Bruce Campbell

The best thing that happened to us was we were fully seeded in terms of having owner operators on board and that allows us not to outsource the loads which cost us quite a bit more than if we pulled it with our owner operators. So our outside miles for the quarter ran in the 5% range which is really really good.

Most of that having – most of that would be caused by us being out of bounds and we simply couldn't cover the load with our owner operators. So if we can continue that for the balance of the year that really helps our team in terms of lowering PT. .

Vanck Zhu

And I guess just a question on the current environment.

Are you seeing any sort of pick up in June and July across your businesses?.

Bruce Campbell

June was better. And then that’s blessed by July being a little bit soft. So for any of us, we were talking earlier the prediction based on this right now is very difficult for us to predict what is going to happen or what will happen to the balance of the year.

It’s at best I guess, I know we have planning processes in place that allows us to adjust to whatever happens. But beyond that you know more than we do..

Vanck Zhu

And one more question, just wondering, I know you guys did kind of a pricing action last September.

Wondering if another one is in the works sometime in September or maybe sometime this year?.

Bruce Campbell

We will evaluate that as we do annually towards the end of the year as we go through our planning processes for 2017. .

Operator

Next, we go to Jack Atkins with Stephens..

Unidentified Analyst

It's actually Andrew on for Jack.

Bruce, going back to the volumes there, can you walk us through how that trended through the quarter on a kind of year-over-year basis?.

Mike Morris

This is Mike Morris. I can take that, Bruce. So April’s year-over-year tonnage was down 11%. May's year over year was down 5%, June year over year was down 4%. .

Unidentified Analyst

And then so far in July if you have it?.

Bruce Campbell

We’re basically flat to up 1% or 2%. And I would point out to you that when we went through the second quarter, that was really our first quarter that we lapped the Towne acquisition. So a year ago there was a still lot of what we called bad business in the network.

So you can see from our operating results that by ridding us of some of that business, not all of it, we were able to dramatically improve our operating ratio. So this is one of the few times you'll see in the transportation company where a little bit less volume was truly beneficial to us..

Unidentified Analyst

It makes sense.

Within the 3Q guide, kind of what are you guys expecting in there from a core line-haul yield and volume standpoint?.

Mike Morris

In terms of our guidance for the third quarter, we see line-haul yields up in the low single digits. Keep in mind that – if you think about tonnage and then pricing actions following suit, we're lapping the tonnage now but the pricing actions will be lapping in the third quarter, I think it was September when some of the pricing actions came in.

So you're going to see some balancing out on a year-over-year perspective, that will get in the growth rates of core line-haul yields. .

Unidentified Analyst

And then the tonnage?.

Mike Morris

Tonnage is probably up in the low single digits. Again you kind of passed the tonnage comp and that's a pure comp and now you've got the pricing comp to catch up on. .

Unidentified Analyst

And kind of last one for me is, in the pool distribution business, I guess if I look at it on kind of over the last two years, revenue is up 25% or so, but EBIT actually declined by about $1 million.

And kind of what's going on in this business and why haven't we seen the operating leverage in the model?.

Bruce Campbell

I think you will see it. It’s just – in order to take on some of that business you have – it’s a big decision to make when you take on new business is, can we handle it within our building -- our existing buildings, or do we have to go out and find a bigger building.

In both cases this time we had to go out, incur additional costs, incur additional fixed costs and we're hoping that in the second half of this year that trend will reverse. But it’s equally frustrating to us and we're hopeful that – again that we will see a better result in the second half..

Unidentified Analyst

Sounds good.

Just one more I've realized, on the buyback, is that a signal that you guys plan to become more aggressive there, or is that just kind of replacing one that was already in authorized?.

Mike Morris

It was replacing one that was already authorized. .

Operator

Next, we go to Todd Fowler with KeyBanc Capital Markets. .

Todd Fowler

Good morning and Rodney congratulations. Mike, welcome. .

Bruce Campbell

What about me, Todd?.

Todd Fowler

Bruce, it's always good to hear that you're still here. So thank you..

Bruce Campbell

Thank you..

Todd Fowler

You threw me off with that one. It's not hard to do. I guess what I wanted to start off with is, with the line-haul yield sequentially coming down a little bit in the second quarter, that's different than what you normally see or what we would normally expect to see.

Does that have something to do with the change in the dimensional factors? Does that have something to do with the change in the mix? I guess I'm just trying to understand why yields came down sequentially, and I understand kind of the guidance going forward.

But how do we think about I guess what's going on with the line-haul yields?.

Bruce Campbell

Two quick answers. One is a little bit of change in mix. Now there is a little bit of shortening of the length of haul, to bring down yield. .

Todd Fowler

Right.

Is there anything, Bruce, then to read into either the mix or the change in the length of haul as far as what's driving, is that something different with it?.

Bruce Campbell

No. If you follow us as you do, we go kind of up and down on that. Assuming we made no structural changes, that number will go up and down, and that’s just the nature of the beast. .

Todd Fowler

And then when I look at the salaries on a per pound basis here this quarter, I mean looks like you guys just did a very good job there, very strong incremental margins.

Was there anything specific going on, on the salary side that was able to give you kind of that good leverage or was it just a good quarter where everything kind of aligned and you're getting the experience that you need with the dockworkers and the freights where you want to be and that sort of thing?.

Bruce Campbell

It’s the latter. Really top notch execution by our team and they brought that right to the bottom line. They just did a terrific job. .

Todd Fowler

Bruce, is there any reason why that would change into the second half of the year? I mean are there wage increases that you have to put in or anything like that, or is that, the comment that was in the release about, you see incremental volumes that you get the leverage off of that?.

Bruce Campbell

We’re convinced we can get the leverage. We're convinced we can maintain that cost structure. We have already taken wage increases, so that's behind us, that’s reflected in Q2 numbers. .

Todd Fowler

And then can you help us understand a little bit what happened in the intermodal segment here this quarter? I know there are some comments in the release about the revenue and it was down year over year and down a little bit sequentially.

But maybe if you can just give us some color what's going on there? And I don't think you had a huge impact on the margins but there was a little bit of fall-off in the top line, and then what your expectations would be for the rest of the year?.

Bruce Campbell

To give you a bit of context, if you recall a year ago we had a port strike and then right after that the resulting kind of surge in intermodal business for a period of time. And so we were up against a fairly tough comp.

And on the other side of it is simply slow, I mean we've had a number of people say you know what, what's the cause of this, the import levels are just not what they were a year ago. We have the same customer base. We have -- nothing's really changed there. It’s just they simply don't have as much business.

We're hopeful as we go through the balance of the year that we're going to see that start to tick up. But our team did -- our CST team did a terrific job of maintaining their margins. They were just top notch..

Todd Fowler

So there's no business that's been lost or anything like that? It's just a reflection of the year-over-year comparisons, and then what the environment is today?.

Bruce Campbell

It’s more. To us it’s more of a macro issue. We're still out hard at it selling trying to gain more customers. They did gain more customers. So we're hopeful as we go in the second half that we can grow that. But we're mindful that the macro conditions are not the best. .

Todd Fowler

And then I guess two last ones for me, one just on the guidance. When I think about the sequential improvement into the third quarter, so you've got $0.57 here in 2Q, stepping up to $0.61 to $0.65.

Can you just, at a high level, help us think about -- is that just the normal seasonality? To me, it feels like historically, or more recent history, the third quarter has looked a little bit like the second quarter, maybe not as strong in some of the businesses.

But what are the parts of the business now that step up sequentially, or that we should think about, that help you add $0.04 or $0.05 sequentially in the third quarter versus the second quarter?.

Mike Morris

This is Mike. I think it's just -- yeah there's some seasonality in there as you point out but I think it's also seeing another quarter of the full effects of the Towne integration and realizing the network synergies that we saw in the second quarter. .

Todd Fowler

That's helpful.

So you don't think that all of that came through in 2Q?.

Mike Morris

But I think it’s starting to come through, yes..

Bruce Campbell

And then you need to remember obviously, Todd, that solutions tend -- the second half of the year is their half of the year. .

Todd Fowler

Yes, that makes sense, Bruce. I got that. That's right, okay. And then just the last one I just wanted to ask, and I know that you get asked this periodically.

But with your business model and with the shift in e-commerce, and thinking about if it's things like Amazon Prime Day, how much more -- or how much different do you feel the volumes as a result of some of the shifts in e-commerce at this point compared to a couple of years ago? And what do you expect for the second half, or maybe the intermediate-term future as a result of some of those shifts?.

Bruce Campbell

We've worked over the past three four years to position ourselves to handle that business. It is a change in how we move freight but we have a good group. They know how to adjust. Probably three, four, five years ago, 90% of the freight that moved across the Forward Air dock was on a pallet and we moved it with a forklift.

Today that number is probably down to 50%. And we’re hugging 50% of the freight. So we've had to adjust, we've had to adapt but that's a part of life and that's what you have to do to continue to be successful. .

Operator

Our next question is from David Ross with Stifel. .

David Ross

Bruce, very lovely to have you on the call today. Congratulations on a terrific quarter. .

Bruce Campbell

Likewise..

David Ross

First, can you talk a little bit about TLX and the shift to owner operators? It looks like a big growth there in the owner operators.

Was that one of the reasons that you weren't able to flex as much down on the cost per mile, when there was rate pressure?.

Bruce Campbell

Correct. And as you notice a number of our customers on the truckload side where a year ago would allow us to broker, today they're demanding that we run the freight with our people. And so that's why you see the uptick in owner operators there.

And then the cost pressures that come with it because all of a sudden you're concerned with empty miles and that type of thing. So we feel good that we're going to be able to stem that cost increase as we get more and more fluid in moving truckload products across the U.S. .

David Ross

Shouldn't they pay a premium if they are demanding that you use owner operators instead of third-party?.

Bruce Campbell

Well in some cases they do, in other cases they say you know the market is not really good. So if you want this business this is the price you're going to get it for. .

David Ross

But you still have to use owner operators?.

Bruce Campbell

Yes. .

David Ross

Has there been any change to the truck brokerage environment as we have moved into July? Has the spot market gotten any better? Has it been more difficult, less difficult, to find capacity?.

Bruce Campbell

We ended June, if I go all the way back there where it got really not tied but it was much better. And then as we progress through July, it’s not back as far as it was in terms of looseness. But there's definitely capacity available and there’s definitely competition going on for what rate level you're going to be able to charge. .

David Ross

And what are you hearing from your customers in the way of inventory levels at the moment?.

Bruce Campbell

That's all over the board. I think in general you could say that inventory levels have probably pulled back a little bit but they still remain pretty healthy. .

David Ross

And then on the Expedited LTL side, has there been any difference between your international customers, your domestic customers?.

Bruce Campbell

Probably the most effective of our customer base are the internationals, when you see the numbers for the airlines, obviously that impacts international freight forwarders. So they've been hurt a little bit harder. It also depends on what part of the world it's coming from so.

But in general the answer is their business is off more than a domestic forwarder. .

David Ross

And then last question, just back to intermodal and the growth there.

Could you remind us what the geographic footprint is of the intermodal division? Are you at all the major ports, or do you have concentrations in certain ports? And is there plans to grow more broadly from a geographic standpoint?.

Bruce Campbell

Today we are concentrated primarily in the Midwest, so Chicago is our big facility. Also facilities in Milwaukee, Minneapolis, Indianapolis, across that Midwest grain belt. Our next step we’ll take is to enter the Southeast. We have a couple of start-up operations now but we’ll supplement that hopefully in the future with a pretty nice acquisition. .

David Ross

And with that startup, would we expect any near-term margin compression as you get the ball up and running? Or should that be able to plug into Forward Air's existing intermodal infrastructure without any margin degradation?.

Bruce Campbell

I don't think we'll see margin degradation. They do a really good job of controlling that costs. In some cases they were able to borrow an existing Forward Air terminal so that helps them get up and running. So we should be good there. .

Operator

Next we go to John Barnes with RBC Capital Markets..

John Barnes

Hey good morning. Let's see, a couple things here. On the outside miles at that 5% level, obviously you're dealing with a little bit softer freight environment.

What is the sustainable number on a go forward basis, when we're in maybe a little bit more normalized freight environment? I know that's up for debate as well, but just what’s the sustainable level?.

Bruce Campbell

It depends on two things, John. One is how balanced are we. So if LA pumps out 75 loads a night that’s going to drive up our outside carrier usage. But if we stay relatively in balanced and things will get tighter as we go through the balance of the year we would be happy with the number between at -- on the low side 6 and on the high side 9. .

John Barnes

And then can you talk a little bit about maybe what percentage of your freight now is bypassing your hubs and moving directly between your other facilities?.

Bruce Campbell

Our hub today -- our national hub in Columbus is handling about 34% of our freight. That number stays pretty solid and then the balance is either going through a regional hub or going direct. .

John Barnes

The numbers you gave on the quarterly -- the month-to-month progression on the tonnage, are down 11, down 5, down 4, and now flat to slightly up.

Can you just discuss a little bit how much of that decline in April, May, and June was due to company decisions that you've made about some of that freight you talked about, versus what percentage was because you were just dealing with a little bit softer environment?.

Bruce Campbell

This is what I would call an 80% guess because we don’t know factually exactly but I would say 80% of that down was freight we rid the system of. .

John Barnes

So that was due to a company action, either due to combat poor pricing on it, or it just didn't fit the network?.

Bruce Campbell

And the other side of that was, it’s just horribly priced, in a number of cases we repriced it. And that's where we lost the business. Interestingly enough some of it's come back but it just simply could not go into our network at the price it was at the time of acquisition. .

John Barnes

And do you feel like, at this point, you have addressed the entire book of business in terms of that type of freight, that poorly priced freight or is there any left that has maybe not come up for renewal yet?.

Bruce Campbell

Now they've done a terrific job, we're done. .

John Barnes

Done, okay. All right. Very good. And then the rollout of the dimensional pricing process and methodology.

Can you just describe maybe where you are in that process, and how much of the freight now moving through your system is actually being priced through that methodology?.

Bruce Campbell

The implementation of the dim process was implemented just about as well as we could have possibly hoped for. The actual freight impacted changes week to week as you might imagine. So we've seen as low as 10 and as high as 18% of the shipments that are impacted. And that changes as you might imagine almost from a daily basis. .

John Barnes

And can you remind us, what do you think is the ultimate level you can get to of your freight that will be priced under this methodology?.

Bruce Campbell

I would think the ultimate would be somewhere around 20%..

John Barnes

And then my last question is, you went through the period where you were integrating Towne. You got that done. I know that took a lot of attention.

Now that that seems to be running pretty well, number one, should we expect you to be turning a little bit more of your attention to the non Expedited LTL type of operations? And as you look at those other operations, do you have a thought process on when -- when do they get better or you have to make a different decision whether it be -- I go back to the question about pool, where you've got revenue that's up, but EBITDA that's down.

Where do you think you have to make a decision as to -- is there a different strategy that has to be employed?.

Bruce Campbell

A lot of that I truly can’t answer. I would tell you we have plans in place. We have goals in place. We have certain expectations that we expect our people to hit and we will make measurements as we go forward..

John Barnes

But it's safe to say that – I mean have you directed more of your attention to those operations, now that the core business is back up and running like you want it to be?.

Bruce Campbell

Yes, that’s a very fair statement. .

Operator

Next question is from Kevin Sterling with BB&T Capital Markets..

Kevin Sterling

Thank you. Good morning gentlemen. And Mike, welcome to you and, Rodney, congratulations. I've really enjoyed working with you over the years. .

Bruce Campbell

What about me?.

Kevin Sterling

Bruce, just always love working with you; and like Todd said, we're glad you're still on the call. Most of my questions have been answered. I just really have one question. Bruce, you guys are replacing the buyback. But how about the M&A pipeline? How should we think about that? Are you seeing deals out there? Maybe you're looking at anything new.

Maybe you could talk a little bit about what you see in the M&A world. .

Bruce Campbell

Our whole strategy, we've been fairly transparent on that is to grow CST and help them fill out their geographical footprint. They're such a good model and there are so many opportunities, most of them are small but they help us to fill out and move into the Southeast and other areas that we’re hopeful of addressing here in the near term.

So that's really our whole focus today. Let’s get CST up to where they need to be. We think the easiest way to do that in this environment is via acquisition. The multiples are very good now and we're excited about the opportunities there. .

Kevin Sterling

No, that's great.

And going back to the dim question, following John, have you seen -- as you have been dimming your freight, are you seeing like some customers that have been pushing the envelope maybe not push as much anymore, because they know you are focused on -- with rolling out dimensioners? How should we think about that?.

Bruce Campbell

Well, you would have thought that but in fact nothing's changed. Now part of that’s driven by the fact that our customer does not always see the freight. So they're relying on the actual shipper. So if you look back -- we actually thought what you said would happen but it hasn't. So we're dimming as much as we normally have. .

Kevin Sterling

No, I guess that makes sense, because like you said, they don't necessarily always see the freight. Okay. Well, gentlemen, thanks so much for your time, and best of luck to you. Thank you. .

Operator

Our next question is from Ben Hartford with Robert W. Baird..

Ben Hartford

Bruce, I guess as we start to put Towne in the rearview and look ahead to ‘17 and beyond, how do you see -- what is the growth profile of the Expedited LTL business? Is it a market in line with industrial production type grower that still generates a lot of cash? Or can this be a mid-single-digit type volume growth business for whatever reason?.

Bruce Campbell

We think it's a mid single digit from a volume standpoint, Ben. I mean with good pricing actions hopefully we can push that up a little bit more. .

Ben Hartford

And where do you think that mid-single-digit volume growth comes from, if we assume that overall freight growth is 1% to 2%?.

Bruce Campbell

I think you're looking at low side 2, high side, if everything goes right 5. And then for us to get really big growth, something will have to happen in the macro environment. So maybe one of the smaller competitors goes out of business. Think of all the different things that could happen that might impact that.

But in the normal course of business I think that's where it would be. .

Ben Hartford

This 83 OR in the back half of the year, is that the new run rate, post-Towne? Or will there still be some tailwinds through the back half of the year, so you can have another kind of step-up on what the representative run rate will be in ‘17 and beyond?.

Bruce Campbell

When you get ORs in the low 80s I start getting nervous from standpoint of how much more can you improve it and when people ask you how much more can you improve it, I get really nervous. So I will go back to what I said earlier. To make this better at this level a lot of positive things have to happen.

They happened in the second quarter, we got a little bit of relief on fuel. We had overall pretty good volumes and we had the volume that we wanted and got rid of the volume we did not want. We had our pricing in place and it did a good job. So all of those things have to occur to really make an 83 and 82. Again if things line up we can do it.

If they don’t we’re happy with an 83. .

Ben Hartford

Sure. Yeah, not to take away from the work you guys have done. It's been good work. Final one, just back to that inventory question. You had mentioned that they are healthy. I mean we can all point to the same inventory to sales ratios being higher over the past few years.

But curious, in terms of your perspective and your forwarding -- your customer's perspective on retail inventories as they stand today, as B2C continues to develop, there's a lot of uncertainty as to whether this is a new normal as it relates to inventory levels or not, or if there's risk to inventory levels.

Do you have a view on inventory levels up here in the context of where they have been, and where they might go as B2C presumably continues to develop?.

Bruce Campbell

This is a Campbell opinion, so it’s worthless. But I think the inventory levels we see today are the new norm. We’ve had a number of months to get them down and simply hadn’t occurred. And when you talk retail, you can't group it, because there are retail outlets, stores whatever that are doing well and there are others that are just dying on the vine.

So it's really hard for me to lump those all together. .

Operator

And we’ll go to David Campbell with Thompson Davis & Company. .

David Campbell

Hi Bruce and congratulations, Mike, on your new job. Thank you very much for your taking the questions.

Bruce and Mike, I know you said Towne has helped, but could you be a bit more precise on how Towne has helped in the second quarter? And it's not there anymore, is it? It's totally integrated, so you don't have a so-called Towne business to visibly benefit from?.

Bruce Campbell

Well if I follow your question, when we say, first of all, we got the warts from the Towne acquisition behind us. That's number one most important. Number two, we retained the business from Towne that we wanted to, so that was a big step forward. And number three, it is now priced properly.

So all of those things together kind of worked themselves out in Q2, took us a year to get there and they will carry forward as we go into the future. .

David Campbell

But Towne doesn't exist anymore.

That's correct, right?.

Bruce Campbell

That is correct. .

David Campbell

And it’s fully integrated, and you can see that business through your -- through what wasn't there a year ago is there now.

And are there any other significant opportunities in the so-called air freight business, because that is basically what Towne was? Anything else you can see, or would you be more likely to buy forwarders, or what would be your target?.

Bruce Campbell

We won't buy forwarders, I can assure you that. You never know when opportunities will come up. Within our operating parameters we do have competitors. But today as we sit here we have nothing on the books. .

David Campbell

Right, right, right. Well, thanks again for having such a good quarter. It really makes a big difference. End of Q&A.

Operator

And with no further questions, ladies and gentlemen that will conclude Forward Air’s second quarter 2016 earnings conference call. Please remember the webcast will be available on the IR section of Forward Air’s website at www.forwardair.com shortly after this call. That does conclude your conference. You may now disconnect..

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