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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q4
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Operator

Good afternoon. My name is Regina, and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Electronic Arts Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year-end 2023 Conference Call. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Stuart Canfield, Senior Vice President, Finance and Investor Relations. Please go ahead..

Stuart Canfield Executive Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thank you. Welcome to EA's Fourth Quarter and Fiscal Year-end 2023 Earnings Call. With me today are Andrew Wilson, our CEO; and Chris Suh, our CFO; and Laura Miele, our COO. Please note that our SEC filings and our earnings release are available at ir.ea.com. In addition, we have posted detailed earnings slides to accompany our prepared remarks.

Lastly, after the call, we'll post our prepared remarks, an audio replay of this call and a transcript. With regards to our calendar, our first quarter fiscal 2024 earnings call is scheduled for Tuesday, August 1. As a reminder, we post a schedule of upcoming earnings calls for the fiscal year on our IR website.

This presentation and our comments include forward-looking statements regarding future events and the future financial performance of the company. Actual events and results may differ materially from our expectations.

We refer you to our most recent Form 10-Q for a discussion of risks that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed today. Electronic Arts makes these statements as of today, May 9, 2023, and disclaims any duty to update them.

During this call, the financial metrics, with the exception of free cash flow, will be presented on a GAAP basis. All comparisons made in the course of this call are against the same period in the prior year, unless otherwise stated. Now I'll turn the call over to Andrew..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

having more friends and building stronger friendships in our network leads to more time spent playing and connecting. As a cornerstone of our priorities of growth, we will continue to implement these tools across our portfolio.

With a strong close to fiscal year 2023, we are executing on our core strategies, and our focused investments are positioned to drive results across our content and services pipeline. We remain committed to capturing our biggest opportunities and delivering long-term value in our business by doing more amazing things for our players and communities.

Now I hand the call over to Chris to provide additional details on our business..

Christopher Suh

Survivor. For the first quarter, we expect net revenue of $1.8 billion to $1.9 billion, cost of revenue to be $350 million to $370 million and operating expenses of approximately $1.07 billion to $1.09 billion, resulting in earnings per share of $0.98 to $1.14.

Our business is in a strong position propelled by strong brands, massive online communities, blockbuster storytelling and evergreen live services. Our efforts over the last year to align our teams more closely with our key priorities has led to a more focused scope of work, which will help us deliver on our multiyear growth aspirations.

Now I'll hand the call back to Andrew..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Chris. Interactive entertainment is at an inflection point. The industry is expanding, the number of players expect to grow significantly over the coming years. The audience is becoming more diverse with cultural and generational trends accelerating content consumption.

Engaging this expanding player base means reaching them on devices everywhere through disruptive technologies. For EA, these transformations represent opportunities to grow today and over the long term. We have the best talent in the industry to execute against our long-term strategy.

It's through their passion and creativity that we will continue to deliver on our mission to inspire the world to play. We are focused on bringing more amazing games to more people around the world, inspiring them to build community, celebrate shared fandom and have joyful experiences.

The future of entertainment is interactive, and no team is better equipped to lead this transformation than EA. Now Chris, Laura and I are here for your questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question will come from the line of Andrew Uerkwitz with Jefferies..

Andrew Uerkwitz Vice President of Investor Relations

I've got one kind of on June and then kind of a big picture question. Chris, could you help me reconcile a little bit the June guidance? I think a year ago, you had one title. In the June quarter, you have 5 this time. And then clearly, there's some strong momentum in live services.

So is this cautious guide? Is this -- is there something in the live service momentum that slows down? Just a little bit more color you can give on June would be great..

Christopher Suh

Andrew, so you're talking about the -- our guide for Q1?.

Andrew Uerkwitz Vice President of Investor Relations

Q1, yes. Yes, sir..

Christopher Suh

Yes. Right. So specifically, our guide in Q1 is driven really by the performance of our live services business. And as you pointed out, we have some year-over-year things on new launches that are driving that performance..

Andrew Uerkwitz Vice President of Investor Relations

It seems like 5 games should drive more than a couple of hundred million dollars, right, if I'm doing my math right? Or is it just in -- go ahead..

Christopher Suh

No, sorry. And we're happy to sort of take you through sort of line by line on that. But it is relative to the size of the launches, I think, that you're referring..

Andrew Uerkwitz Vice President of Investor Relations

Got it. Okay. That's great. Yes. And then just kind of big picture, some of the trends that I think you saw in the previous quarters around kind of weakness in smaller titles, I think you guys or some of your peers called out this idea that gamers are kind of coalescing around the biggest titles.

Are you still seeing that? And then secondarily, and maybe more importantly, how has that impacted where and how you invest in future titles?.

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Thank you, Andrew. I think it's a great question. As we look at the marketplace and as we look at consumer trends, I think there's 2 things happening right now. One, which -- and both kind of end us in the same place. But I think one is more short term, and one has as much longer term -- more longer-term ramifications.

The first is that any time through the history of our industry, that there is any kind of consumer softness or consumer trepidation around spending also macroeconomic uncertainty. What we typically see is consumers move towards the biggest brands and the biggest titles and the most recognizable experiences.

And that really comes down to kind of general consumer behavior, which is they have less money that they're willing to risk against new things or smaller things or unknown things. And typically, our brands like FIFA, like Madden, like The Sims have performed very well at these times. That, however, is a moment in time.

And our expectation is that as we move through this particular phase and as consumer spending continues to strengthen over time, that there will be opportunities for new titles and new brands. What -- but what we don't think that will outweigh is this movement to these broader social ecosystems that are games, games as platforms.

At the very call, we are a games company, but what we are seeing is the evolution of the definition of a game. And you hear us talk about play, watch, create, connect. And it's really that last piece, that connection piece, that is driving the future of our business.

And as we think about building FC for the future, as we think about building The Sims for the future and Battlefield and Apex and Skate and other properties in our portfolio, we really think about that in the context of building games as a platform or content as a platform to drive these long-term businesses across play, watch, create, connect.

We think this will be longer-lasting than the present kind of macroeconomic climate. And certainly, that's where we're investing in meaningful parts of our time, money and resources over the coming years.

That's not to take away from the opportunity to launch incredible things like Jedi, which we've just done, which tell unbelievable stories in an interactive world and become a meaningful part of a bigger brand IP like we have with Star Wars.

But certainly, as we balance out our investment over time, a great portion of our investment will go into these building games and experiences that entertain massive online communities.

We'll then follow up with a more focused, deliberate investment against telling blockbuster interactive stories, and we think that there will be opportunity for investment over time with the extension of these social and credit tools, both for the in-game experience and beyond the game experience broadly.

And you'll see us do some more of that, particularly in the world of EA SPORTS in the coming year..

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from the line of Benjamin Soff with Deutsche Bank..

Benjamin Soff

Just wanted to dig in a little bit on the expectations for FC. Obviously, you guys had a record year for the franchise, and you're expecting low single-digit growth in the upcoming year. So I just wanted to better understand the drivers there and if you see any challenges or execution risks that you go through the rebrand..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I'll touch on this broadly, and I'll let Chris kind of talk a little bit more on the details of how we're forecasting and planning. First and foremost, we're coming off an extraordinary year. Football as a sport is growing globally. We think the World Cup did great things for continuing to grow the sport broadly and the fan ecosystem around the sport.

I think what we've been able to do with our football franchise is really become central to the fabric of football culture, and the results that you are seeing is really demonstrative of that importance that we play in that fan football culture.

My belief and my belief all along has been that as we move through this rebrand, and certainly as we talked about in the prepared remarks, this rebrand was probably the single biggest rebrand moment in the history of the company and almost certainly the most successful by a fairly wide margin.

We've never seen this kind of consumer energy and this kind of positive consumer energy around a launch of this nature, particularly for a business that we've been in for 30 years.

And so I continue to believe that moving through this rebrand actually presents us extraordinary opportunities for growth, and I've talked about this before and the context of what we can do for the player broadly, how we can extend the play, watch, create, connect, experience, how we can extend the relationships that we have with commercial brands that are equally valuable in football fan culture over time.

And I think that as we move through this year, and you see what we're doing in the context of the game experience and what's going on around that, we feel very bullish and very confident around growth opportunities of our football business.

But we're coming off a pretty big year, and it's a pretty big comp, and so I'll hand off to Chris to kind of talk you through how we're thinking about that..

Christopher Suh

Yes. Thanks, Andrew. Exactly as Andrew said, we're seeing an incredible year for FIFA. We talked about it extensively on the call. Actually, FIFA for the full year across all platforms grew 20% this year in constant currency, and that's off of '22 that also grew double digits. And so the momentum in the business has been fantastic.

As we look forward into the launch of FC, as Andrew said, we're really focused on the player experience and making this a great experience. We're pleased to be able to grow the business again off of 2 consecutive years of double-digit growth..

Benjamin Soff

Okay. Great. And then just one on the guidance. I think last quarter, you talked about mid-single-digit operating income growth. And if I'm doing my math right, I think the midpoint of your guide implies more of a low single-digit growth rate.

So first of all, is that correct? And what changed? And is it FX or maybe something else?.

Christopher Suh

Yes, sure. As we gave the guide at the beginning of Q4, we went through a number of planning assumptions that we shared with you in terms of what we saw in terms of player engagement and quality of games and execution. I would say the biggest difference between now and then is, honestly, the performance that we had in Q4.

We had an incredibly strong Q4, exceeding our own expectations on a number of fronts that we talked about in the prepared comments.

And as we look forward into '24, our outlook and our planning assumptions for '24 in many cases remain unchanged in the sense that all the things that we focus on, which is quality of games, execution and delivery of our resilient live services, those remain quite stable and consistent and unchanged.

And I would say that the comp is just quite a bit higher..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Matthew Thornton with Truist Securities..

Matthew Thornton

Survivor, Andrew or Chris, just wondering if you can maybe give us a little bit of color -- put a little more meat on the bone, just maybe how that's faring relative to its predecessor and how to think about that title for the balance of the year. And then just secondly, on mobile, we've got The Lord of the Rings title here in the first quarter.

Curious how material you think that can be to the full year. And mobile more broadly, it looks like it's starting to perk up a little bit or stabilize a little bit. Maybe just a little more color on what you're seeing in that market as we head into fiscal '24..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Fallen Order..

Christopher Suh

Great. The only thing I'd add to what Andrew said about Star Wars is that as exactly as we said, we're incredibly excited about the launch. This is a title that we expect to contribute to our financial performance for a very long time. And so we're in early days.

In terms of The Lord of the Rings mobile launch, again, another title we're very pleased at in terms of the quality of the game and the expectations around it.

We are being modest and prudent in terms of the underlying implied financial performance within our guide, consistent with what we've talked about in terms of launches of some of our other titles over the last couple of quarters..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Clay Griffin with MoffettNathanson..

Clayton Griffin

I had a question on Apex. I just -- I noted that Overwatch is experimenting with its first kind of IP crossover collaboration, what have you. Correct me if I'm wrong, it has not been a lever that Apex has really pulled. So I'm curious just to get your sense of the pros and cons of maybe going down that road.

I don't know if it makes strategically for Apex, but just kind of the broader point is just trying to better understand kind of what you guys want to do with Apex in terms of monetization or engagement as it relates to those types of activities..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I think what you've heard from us, and certainly the performance in Q4 is testament to this, is Apex is one of the strongest franchise in our industry and certainly one of our strongest franchise when we talk about content as a platform, a game experience as a platform, Apex is certainly front and center as we think about our business model.

We have a substantial player base with incredible retention. And as is the nature of these free-to-play environment, there are ebbs and flows. And I think what is unique to Apex is its ability to engage and reengage through those ebbs and flows.

We're going to continue to invest in the IP broadly, both geographically from a platform, extending play, extending story. And for what it's worth, I don't think anything is off the table. I think that as we think about game IP today, it's kind of like comic book IP of 20 or 30 years ago.

This is the IP that Gen Z and Gen Alpha perhaps identify mostly with, and I think the opportunities for us to continue to grow and expand and stretch the nature of the experiences that we're able to offer to our global player base over the next decade and beyond is unfettered..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Mario Lu with Barclays..

Unidentified Analyst

This is [indiscernible] on for Mario. Two, if I can. So is there any color you can provide on your mobile revenue outlook in fiscal '24 that's embedded within the guide? And then separately, for EA SPORTS FC, I appreciate the call-out on the slides that fiscal '24 bookings anticipates low single-digit growth for the title.

Are you expecting any margin benefit that will flow down to the bottom line now that the FIFA license has gone?.

Christopher Suh

Let me address your first question. I'll start there and then I sort of missed the first part of your second question, so if you could repeat that here in a second.

But in terms of the mobile growth for next year, our expectations are that mobile business in aggregate will be down year-on-year after FY '23, a large part of that related to the decision to sunset the Apex mobile title, and so that obviously is in the comparable for '23.

It won't be in the comparable for '24, and that's a big piece of the mobile business revenue performance expectation for '24. And can you go ahead and repeat your second question? I missed the first part of it..

Unidentified Analyst

Yes, yes. Got it.

So are you guys just expecting any sort of margin benefit that will flow down to the bottom line without the FIFA license for EA SPORTS FC?.

Christopher Suh

Got it. Okay. It's FC. I missed the part which game you're referring to. So thank you for that clarification. As we think about the transition to FC, we really are focused on the player experience and making this transition, a great one for our fans around the world. We are going to invest behind that across our brand, rebrand launching as well.

And so as you think about the total economics of the business, I would not anticipate it being materially different year-on-year..

Laura Miele President of EA Entertainment & Technology

Galaxy of Heroes game, which has generated nearly $1.5 billion over the lifetime. When we look at the market and we evaluate what's working, when you look at the top chart in mobile, the top 10 charts in mobile, only 2 entrants have come in the last 2 years. Everything else has been there for quite a long time.

So we see a pretty significant runway and continued growth potential in our existing life services. We have Plants vs. Zombies. We have Sims. We have Design Home. Clearly, we have FIFA. We have Tap Sports. We have a really meaningful live service business that we see a really strong runway and still, again, and growing that in a profitable way..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Eric Sheridan with Goldman Sachs..

Eric Sheridan

And maybe if I could go back to ask another big picture. One, obviously, there continues to be a lot of debate in the industry about distribution and content companies and vertical versus horizontal scale in the industry.

Andrew, I want to know as we get deeper into 2023 and even against some of your longer-term thoughts, how are you thinking about scale, both from a distribution standpoint and from a content creation standpoint and how that factors back into possible capital allocation for the company over the medium term..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Great question. As you might imagine, we spent a great deal of energy thinking through this puzzle. I think on balance that what we have done as a company over the last 40 years has navigated various distribution modalities from cartridge to disk -- floppy disk to cartridge, cartridge to disc, disc to digital, digital to live service.

And our expectation is that we'll continue to evolve, and we think we're at the forefront of that, particularly as you think about our live services business. When we think about scale broadly, I think there are 3 core elements to scale. One is the scale of our network, the amount of players that we interact with each year and each month.

And as we talked about in the prepared remarks, we've just hit 700 million, which is an extraordinary amount of people and represents some of the greatest scale in and around our industry. The second area of scale, of course, is meaningful IP.

And what we've discovered over time is that our biggest brands continue to get bigger as we invest in them and this year as we take more ownership over our football brand with FC, but certainly FC and Apex and The Sims and Battlefield and Need for Speed and so many of our great brands that there's a level of portfolio scale that gives us optionality for the future that most in our industry or an entertainment broadly, just simply don't have the benefit of.

But there's another element of our business that I think is the most important, and that's our people.

The scale of teams that we have that can deliver titles and content and live services year in, year out and has continue to do that through the ebbs and flows of our industry and through the dramatic consumer trend changes and distribution changes and platform changes. Many other companies have tried. Not many have succeeded as it turns out.

And as we look to the future and as we see that interactive entertainment is becoming a more and more important part of entertainment broadly, I think that our team scale is actually one of our greatest strengths.

Our ability to launch the number of EA SPORTS games and updates every year, our ability to take Apex to 200 million people, our ability to take The Sims to 70 million people, our ability to bring Battlefield back in an entirely new way in the future and reinvent and rethink what Skate might be as a consumer connection platform around Skate culture.

There are very few companies, if any, in our industry or in entertainment more broadly that can do that at the scale that we can do it. And it's inherent in who we are as a company. We invest deeply in it, in the culture of our organization in really supporting creators.

And I think that as we move forward in entertainment that the combination of our network, our IP and, more importantly, our teams gives us the kind of scale that means that we have unbelievable opportunities for growth and certainly opportunities for success as we embark in what will be a new competitive marketplace..

Operator

Your next question comes from the line of Stephen Ju with Crédit Suisse..

Stephen Ju

Okay. So Andrew, as I hear you talk about the connected ecosystem as well as blockbuster franchises, it seems like the complexity to develop a really successful franchise is only ratcheting higher. And hence, there is probably a higher level of risk around all these projects as well.

So do you think you will allow development teams in, say, the nonsports games, not longer lead times to make sure the quality is high and the risk to franchise damage is minimal?.

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. I think it's a great question, and I go back to some of the comments we made earlier, which is as we think about the notion of a game, the definition is evolving pretty dramatically. And so when we think about time for development, it's not just the creation of a world or the development of characters or the telling of a story.

It's really about how do we build this as a platform that drives long-term live service business over a 10-plus year period. And I think as we think about supporting and investing in and growing our creating capabilities, our development capabilities, our studio capabilities, that's really where we're investing meaningfully.

And on balance, yes, we will give them more time, and we will let them evolve how they build and what they build and how they launch their games over time. But it's really not just about the complexity of games.

It's really about the changing nature of what it is that we're building, but more importantly, the changing nature of how we derive value from that development over the long term.

And so where we once built games in 1 year or 2 years and then monetize them over 5 weeks or 5 months, now games as a platform are taking longer, but the benefits are exponentially greater.

And what we're seeing out of FC; and what we're seeing out of Apex; what we're seeing out of The Sims, which again launched in 2014, is meaningful return over a decade's long life cycle.

And as we set ourselves up for the future, that's going to be a meaningful part of how we invest in our company, how we invest in the content and service that we provide to players and how we support our development teams to do that..

Operator

Your next question will come from the line of Mike Hickey with Benchmark..

Michael Hickey

Just two for me.

First one, just how you're thinking about industry consolidation, assuming acquisition deal gets brought here, what you think the implications are for the broader industry and on consolidation, Andrew? Second question, not intended to be softball question here, but curious on AI and development, thinking about opportunities, challenges, winners, losers.

It seems like you guys have been very proactive here. Already starting to see the success of AI on development, but just curious what you're doing today, the success you're finding, early learnings and how you think about a step-up growth opportunity over the long term..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, great questions. Let me touch on the first part, and then I'll hand over to Laura to provide a little bit more detail on the AI part in terms of what we're doing. So first, as it relates to consolidation, I'm sure you recognize this is a question I get asked a lot. I almost am never allowed to answer that question as it turns out.

What I would say is I don't know what's going to happen with Activision and Microsoft. Again, we continue to be Microsoft's biggest partner. I think we're the #1 publisher on their platform. So whether that deal goes through or not is not really material to us broadly.

We think we have the scale, again, back to our network, our IP and our talent to continue to navigate the future and lead the future of entertainment and compete in a marketplace regardless of whether that deal goes through or not.

Longer term, will there be industry consolidation? Will there be broader entertainment consolidation? If I was predicting the future over the long term, I would say that's an almost certainty at some level. I would love for us to have the scale to be a meaningful consolidator in that space.

I think that we have tremendous assets with respect to the future of entertainment. But as it stands today, I think that we're indifferent as to whether that goes through or not. We feel like we have an incredible strategy. We feel like we have an incredible opportunity.

And whether it goes through or not, we will continue to be the number one publisher on the Microsoft platform. As it relates to AI, I think that, again, as an industry, we're probably going to be one of the greatest beneficiaries of AI broadly. I think that it will allow us to do what we currently do more efficiently.

It will allow us to actually do more things as we think about being creators, our ability to use AI to augment our incredible teams and create even more entertainment for an audience that has an insatiable appetite for what we're doing.

And then ultimately, to allow AI to help our players and our fans create content in our world represents significant opportunity for us. One of the things that we are also very cognizant of is there are also fears around AI. Of course, the fear of displacement of the workforce is something that we read a lot about and we talk a lot about.

And as we think about every revolution over the course of time from the agriculture revolution through the industrial revolution and on, there has been displacement of the workforce in the near term and then meaningful increases in workforce opportunities over the longer term.

And our hope is that AI represents the same opportunity, and we're working very closely inside of our company to ensure that our people benefit in that way and actually facilitate them to do more things. Of course, then there is the notion of ownership of data and who owns the output of these AI models.

And we have the benefit being around for 40 years and having extraordinary amounts of data from which we can use, and Laura will talk a little bit more about that. And then lastly, of course, it's this notion of what about people -- bad actors using AI.

And I think what our plan will be is to work with others in our industry, others in entertainment, others in technology and others in governments and regulators over time to help the laws keep up with the pace of AI so that help consumers, our players, our fans aren't subjected to bad actors and fraudulent behavior as a result of AI in our industry..

Laura Miele President of EA Entertainment & Technology

Yes. Mike, great questions. And Andrew, you framed it, framed the AI picture incredibly well. There's a few things I can add. Clearly, AI has been a cornerstone of innovation for years, and we have a rich history at EA with AI.

I mean as we look at this next wave of innovation and technology, we see it to be a powerful accelerator for key areas in our business. And as Andrew mentioned, we are incredibly optimistic actually about our unique competitive advantage given our scale, given our data.

Inputs into AI models will create differentiation, protecting our data for having protected IP that we can create generative content from. We have a rich library and history of assets. So we really like how we're positioned. And also keep in mind that we have great partnerships, and we talked a lot about FC today.

We are -- we did a partnership with La Liga, and there's Hawkeye data that we're able to use in our game that is not going to be available -- open -- in an open public marketplace. Again, we really like our position and the advantage that we have given our history and who we are.

And we're thinking about the advantage of this next wave of technology as the accelerator in game development for players and player experience and then as we also think about truly live services at scale.

So in game development, you would imagine the velocity of content, creative iteration is going to be advantaged greatly by having really smart content tools. Andrew mentioned the creator content life-like animation, real-time text to speech for players and what that will mean for them and the experiences they have.

As we think about live game support at scale, there's going to be some really great imagery detection, issue detection, economic modeling that we're going to be able to apply as we continue to grow these connected ecosystem. So we are pretty optimistic and excited and inspired about this new wave of AI.

Again, we have a rich history of it, and we're very optimistic about the years ahead and what it means to our business..

Operator

Our final question will come from the line of Doug Creutz with TD Cowen..

Douglas Creutz

Just wondered if you could give an update on how the various projects that are associated with the Battlefield IP are progressing and maybe how that plays into some of the things you said earlier about giving your big franchises time to gestate so that they're great when they come out..

Andrew Wilson Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

building games and experiences that attract and entertain massive online communities across platforms, across business models, across geographies. And we think that Battlefield is going to be a meaningful part of our future. And we'll share more time and share more as time progresses. That was our last question. Thank you for being with us.

Thank you again to all of our extraordinary teams who delivered an unbelievable Q4 in the face of some macro uncertainty. And we've set us up for a very, very strong FY '24. And of course, congratulations to the Jedi team having just launched an extraordinary blockbuster inside one of the biggest IPs on the planet. See you all next quarter..

Operator

And that concludes today's meeting. Thank you all for joining. You may now disconnect..

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