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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2024 - Q1
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Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to Corsair Gaming's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's call is being recorded, and your participation implies consent to such recording. [Operator instructions].

With that, I would now like to turn the call over to Ronald Van Veen, Corsair's Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations. Thank you. Sir, please begin. .

Ronald Van Veen Vice President of Finance & Investor Relations

Thank you. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us for Corsair's financial results conference call for the first quarter ended March 31, 2024. On the call today, we have Corsair's CEO, Andy Paul; and CFO, Michael Potter. Andy will review highlights from the quarter, and Michael will then review the financials and our outlook.

We will then have time for any questions. Before we begin, allow me to provide a disclaimer regarding forward-looking statements. This call, including the Q&A portion of the call, may include forward-looking statements related to the expected future results of our company and are therefore forward-looking statements.

Our actual results may differ materially from our projections due to a number of risks and uncertainties. The risks and uncertainties that forward-looking statements are subject to are described in our earnings release and other SEC filings. Today's remarks will also include references to non-GAAP financial measures.

Additional information, including reconciliation between non-GAAP financial information to the GAAP financial information is provided in the press release we issued after the market close today. With that, I'll now turn the call over to Andy. .

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Ronald, and welcome, everyone, to our Q1 earnings call. 2024 is starting out as expected, with new products driving a rebound in peripheral growth.

Our Gaming & Creative Peripheral segment has continued its impressive performance, achieving 20% year-over-year revenue growth in the first quarter of 2024 after a 16% year-over-year revenue growth in the fourth quarter of 2023. We're very pleased that growth is coming from all product lines.

This was across Elgato with its popular Stream deck products, SCUF gaming with the successful recent launch of PC controllers and Corsair peripherals with several new Keyboards, Headsets and Mics. We were particularly pleased to see the gross margin lift to 40% with these new product launches.

We fully expect to build on this momentum over the coming quarters with an exciting lineup of planned product launches, some of which we will discuss on the call today. Demand was more subdued in the component market and is normal in the stage of a GPU cycle.

In the short term, the self-built PC market is stable with the next surge expected in late 2024 and 2025 when next-gen GPUs and CPUs are launched. We're also already seeing some benefit in the pricing of our most popular DRAM modules as gamers are using higher DRAM capacity for faster gameplay.

Give you a sense of how big the memory opportunity is, it is estimated that 95% of steam gamers have less than 16 gigs of memory in their systems. That represents a huge opportunity for us.

We continue to have high market share in the component space, which we are focused on further growing led by a strong planned product launch schedule, including several recent launches with our 2500 and 6500 series cases, iCUE LINK RX-Series fans and Corsair One platform upgrade.

As we look forward, 2024 will be an exciting year of innovation with an impressive slate of new Corsair products as we broaden our category reach. We've done a lot of work as part of our product selection and development.

As a result, we expect both our upcoming mobile gaming controller and our upcoming Sim racing product line will be 2 standout launches for us. Corsair racing is set to launch at Computex in June 2024. We have developed a total experience engineered to offer a fully immersive Sim racing experience.

This is a high-growth category, especially as Formula 1 continues to gain interest in the U.S. Corsair will have a unique advantage in this market because of our ability to produce all the relevant components for a Sim-racing setup, combining our new racing components with our gaming PCs, curve monitors and PC peripherals.

We're also excited for the upcoming launch of our SCUF mobile gaming controller. This is one of the market's fastest-growing areas and represents a very large global opportunity for us, which we expect will become another important long-term growth driver.

And we're very encouraged with our recent launch of the new Elgato Neo product family, which is targeting a different and more casual user base than our traditional prosumer Elgato customers. The response has been very positive, and we expect sales to ramp through 2024 and over the coming years. This is one of the largest launches in Elgato's history.

By combining high-end performance with plug-and-play simplicity, we make live video calls and live streams easier and more professional looking. This is another large segment of the market that we expect to be additive to our growth as we expand our market share.

Our launch included the Wave Neo microphone, Place cam, Key light, Capture Card and Stream Deck. We also expect this will help drive even faster growth in our expanding Stream Deck ecosystem. In addition to launching the new models, our Stream Deck application marketplace continues to rapidly add new users.

As of Q1, over 40% of the estimated Stream Deck installed base have opened accounts on the marketplace website. Given the popularity of Stream Deck, we expect the marketplace will become a very meaningful new revenue stream over the coming years.

On our last call, we highlighted proactive actions we were taking to increase our operational efficiency, including moving production of many of our SCUF controllers to our factory in Taiwan, closure of an expensive U.K. factory and expansion of our Atlanta facility.

Adding to this, our efforts in regional and retail expansion are also progressing well with anticipated revenue boost in the latter half of 2024.

We've successfully expanded the retail presence, of course, as full suite of gamer and creator products, introduced the drop product lines through retail channels, expanded our SCUF gaming product lines in retail and strengthened our partnerships with several major online retailers.

These initiatives solidify our position in the market and set the stage for continued growth and success in the years ahead. Finally, we remain active on the M&A front, which is a key driver in the peripheral segment. Our recent acquisition of Drop is fully integrated and contributing.

This builds on our impressive track records of success with Elgato, SCUF and 5 other M&A transactions. We are carefully evaluating opportunities as part of the regular course of business, and we will look to pursue those that fit our long-term growth plans from a product and brand standpoint and valuation.

Looking forward to the balance of 2024, we do not expect growth in the gaming components the Systems segment until the expand of GPU cards are launched, which we expect will be late '24 or early 2025.

For the gamer and creator peripheral segment, we expect significant growth, especially from new products we recently launched and more that we're about to launch. In addition, as we mentioned in our last update, we'll be entering 2 new product categories in 2024, simulating the mobile controllers.

We expect the overall gaming market to now resume back to historical growth levels as the effects of the pandemic received in the history. Let me now turn the call over to our CFO, Michael Potter, for details on the financials. Michael, please go ahead. .

Michael Potter Chief Financial Officer & Principal Accounting Officer

Thanks, Andy, and good afternoon, everyone. I am pleased to report a solid start to 2024, especially for our key gamer and creator peripheral segment and gross margins in general. We expect to build on this start with improved revenue growth and EBITDA expansion in the second half.

The success of our new products is driving market share gains and margin expansion with notable growth in our gamer and creator peripheral segment. Overall, our markets remain healthy, and we continue to execute on our organic business with an eye on accelerated growth through M&A given our track record and strong financial position.

In terms of the specifics, Q1 2024 and net revenue was $337.3 million compared to $354 million in Q1 2023. European markets contributed 34.3% of our Q1 2024 revenues compared to 38.6% in Q4 2023, while the APAC region was 13.8% of our Q1 revenues compared to 9.9% in Q4 2023. Turning now to our segments.

The gamer and creator peripheral segment contributed $107 million of net revenue during the first quarter compared to $88.9 million in Q1 2023. The Gaming Components & Systems segment contributed $230.3 million of net revenue during the quarter compared to $265 million in the year ago period.

Memory Products contributed $124.9 million in first quarter 2024 compared to $131.3 million in Q1 2023. Overall gross profit in the first quarter was $86.6 million compared to $85.4 million in Q1 2023, primarily reflecting mix. Gross margin increased 160 basis points to 25.7% compared to 24.1% in Q1 2023.

We achieved this expansion despite challenges such as increased freight costs stemming from turmoil in the Red Sea and resulting delays necessitating incremental air shipments. The gamer and creator peripheral segment gross profit was $43.6 million compared to $26.6 million in Q1 2023.

Gross margin was a record 40.8%, up 1,080 basis points compared to 30% in Q1 2023. The Gaming Components & Systems segment gross profit was $43 million compared to $58.8 million in Q1 2023. Gross margin was 18.7% compared to 22.2% in Q1 2023, reflecting mix and continued cost headwinds.

Our Memory Products gross margins in this segment were 14.5% for the first quarter compared to 15.8% in Q1 2023. First quarter SG&A expenses were $80.2 million compared to $67.5 million in Q1 2023, while R&D expenses were $16.6 million compared to $16.8 million in Q1 2023.

We continue to invest in support of new category leadership products in both our components and peripheral segments with recent major introductions from Elgato and SCUF Gaming, a major new category launches coming in Sim racing and mobile gaming.

Consumer response has been very positive, and we are encouraged with the momentum we are building as we continue to take market share. As a result of our investments in SG&A, GAAP operating loss in the first quarter of 2024 was $10.2 million compared to operating income of $1 million in Q1 2023.

First quarter adjusted operating income was $15.4 million compared to $18.2 million in Q1 2023. First quarter net loss attributable to common shareholders was $12.5 million or $0.12 per diluted share as compared to a net loss of $1.1 million or $0.01 per diluted share in Q1 2023.

On an adjusted basis, first quarter net income was $9.5 million or $0.09 per diluted share compared to $11.9 million or $0.11 per share in Q1 2023. First quarter 2024 adjusted EBITDA was $18 million compared to $20.6 million in Q1 2023.

Drop was neutrals expected in Q1 and with the integration behind us, we continue to expect it to grow as we move through 2024. Turning now to our balance sheet. We ended Q1 in a strong financial position with a cash balance, including restricted cash of $130.2 million.

We ended Q1 with $184 million of debt at face value and our $100 million working capital revolver remains undrawn and fully available. We further reduced debt in Q1 and plan to continue doing so over the next coming quarters.

Given our strong balance sheet, we have the flexibility to continue decreasing debt while also allocating resources to invest in our operations, which includes actively seeking out further M&A opportunities. These strategic initiatives are designed to accelerate our growth and increase profitability over the long term.

In terms of our outlook, we are affirming our outlook for the full year 2024. We continue to expect total revenue in the range of $1.45 billion to $1.6 billion, adjusted operating income in the range of $92 million to $112 million and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $105 million to $125 million.

Assuming we maintain the same debt and cash balances in 2024, we would expect to have approximately $2 million in net interest expense per quarter. We're using an effective tax rate of approximately 18% to 22% for 2024 and full year weighted average diluted shares outstanding of approximately 107 million to 110 million shares.

As a reminder, we are expecting normal seasonality this year with Q2 typically being the lowest revenue quarter of the year. We also expect year-over-year strength in our gamer and creator peripheral segment throughout the year.

In summary, we are pleased with our strong growth in the gamer and creator peripheral segment and with our continued strong market share. We expect to achieve increased growth in the second half of 2024 led by our new products and expansion into 2 major new categories.

Our balance sheet is strong, and we remain committed to investing in the products that will drive our growth and further market share gains across both peripherals and components. With that, we're now happy to open the call for questions. Operator, we open up the call for Q&A. .

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our first question today comes from George Wang from Barclays. .

Dong Wang

I have 2 quick ones. Firstly, can you give a little bit more color just about the component memory business? Definitely weaker than expected kind of partially drove the kind of the overall below expectation. You guys talked about no growth until a new GPU/CQ launch in the second half as well as 2025.

So now, what's the refresh growth rate for this year based on my model, it seems it's tracking kind of a slight decline on a year-over-year basis? Just curious how confident you are in terms of kind of a tangible rebound in a few quarters. .

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, we see every GPU cycle, the same thing happens. And we're now I mean the room is already out of when NVIDIA is going to launch their new cards. Obviously, they haven't officially announced what it is, but the rumors out there starting end of this year, early '25. And so, people will start gearing up for that.

And in fact, a lot of times people start building machines in advance of the new cards, to building a machine to take it. So, that's why we're expecting Q4 to be pretty good.

But this year, the early adopters are definitely going to wait for that new card, and that's offset by the mainstream customers that are now using the less expensive cards to build game PCs. So overall, that gives you, as you say, a flat to slightly down market depending on which part of the world. .

Dong Wang

Secondly, can you kind of address regional and retail expansion kind of you talked about kind of in the prepared remarks? And also, I kind of noticed that Asia is still a smaller mix versus total kind of the low teens. So, likely some opportunity on the Asia expansion.

So, maybe you can talk about your investment in the retail as well as the regional expansion. .

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, sure. Well, there's a few things going on. In the U.S., we're expanding into additional retailers. We're expanding our footprint into Walmart and Target with some of our new product lines. Worldwide, you are right Asia has been the weakest part of the globe, and that's mostly because China is not doing well.

As you probably know, this some pretty big unemployment in the China. So, we've switched our attention now to really double down on Korea and Japan, where we see lots of opportunities, and we have a much lower market share there than we do in other parts of the world.

So, we'd expect Asia to bounce back, but not in China, but in places like Korea and Japan. Europe is doing quite well. I just spent the week in Europe with all our sales guys and they're extremely positive. And the U.S. is also pretty strong in a lot of gaming categories, but in the self-built PC market, as we just said, we're waiting for the new cards.

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Operator

Our next question comes from Drew Crum from Stifel. .

Andrew Crum

On the gamer and creator segment, was there anything unique during the period that drove the record gross margin performance? And do you see that as sustainable going forward? Or should we assume it fall sequentially? And then I have a follow-up. .

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, no. We're expecting that this is where it should be. There's a few things going on from a mix perspective. And I think, as you know, we invested in some of the supply chain from our Elgato product lines. So, we have one manufacturer that developed with us the Stream Deck.

We bought a significant amount of that company, and that allows us to increase our margins quite substantially. And that actually is the biggest part of our Elgato portfolio now. So, that's driving very healthy margins. We've had a really good bounce back with SCUF, which again is direct-to-consumer and very high margins.

So, a lot of this is mixed in the different parts of the gaming creator segment. We've got some parts that are very high, 50% margin kind of categories that drive the mix up. But our traditional and peripherals categories, which is Keyboards, mics and headsets, has also sequentially been increasing.

So, I would hope that we'll use this margin as a base and keep building from here. .

Andrew Crum

And then, Andy, in your prepared remarks, you talked about the mobile gaming controller and the new Sim racing product line you're launching in June.

Any way you can size the TAM for both of those?.

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, very roughly, and the reason I say very roughly is, there's not a lot of really good Crisp data. I would say the Sim market, as best we can tell, is probably around $1 billion now. And we're going to enter the top half of that initially. So, we're not going to be making $100 or $200 string well kits.

We'll be making products for people that are spending a few thousand dollars on a rig, same way as you do with our PC categories. Tangible market for us to ramp up to $100 million or $200 million there. The mobile gaming is a little less.

I mean everyone is thinking that can easily get to $1 billion is probably not there yet, but it is one of the fastest-growing categories. And what we want to make sure there is that we can stay in the $100 or $100-plus ASP area and not be pulled into the $50 category. So, that's another one where we're going to stay in the premium end of the market. .

Operator

Our next question comes from Aaron Lee from Macquarie. .

Aaron Lee

Just to start, in general, any color you can provide on the general state of the consumer? And do you still feel like there's room to push up ASPs or pass on costs?.

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, that's an interesting question. I mean, as I said, and I remember it simply in the IPO presentations, my feeling was that gaming hardware in general would follow the trend of sports equipment rather than consumer electronic hardware. In other words, if we keep going up as new features are found to enable people to play games better.

And that's exactly what's happened. So, if you look at the headset or keyboard market, people are quite comfortable now paying to $300 for headsets and $200 or $300 for keyboards, whereas if you go back 10 years, these were firmly $50 to $100 market. So, the ASP continues to go up.

Now, in the components space, a lot of this depends on what happens with the power needs of DPOs but we do think that when we listen to Jensen's Folks, he's absolutely helping on cramming as much horsepower as you possibly can, and that tends to use a lot of power.

So, we think the next generation is going to be power hungry as the first 4,000 cards were. And so, that tends to mean people are starting to use 800 to 1,000 more power supplies rather than 500 or 600 watts.

So, I think in the components space, we'll see a healthy maintain maybe a little bit on the ASPs, but some increase there's plenty of room to grow. .

Aaron Lee

And then just on some of these new product launches, you've obviously launched several new categories over the past few quarters.

Are there any categories that have surprised you or stood out in terms of the demand and growth potential?.

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. I think the best success we've had compared to our expectations was our PC controller that we brought out from SCUF. And, we knew that a lot of people have transitioned from console to PC and like to use the console staff in color to play PC game, certainly some of them. And, of course, the whole Call of Duty League move from console to PC.

So, we brought out a controller that was PC only. I must admit I was a little skeptical that, that would confuse some of the consumers that realize they're buying something that they wouldn't work on a PS4 or Xbox but in fact, the demand has been overwhelming, and we were sold out for the first 6 months. So, that one has been very impressive.

The other thing that surprised us was the teleprompter that Elgato brought out. And that literally has been sold out ever since we launched in, I think, October or November. We're just now starting to get inventory in place. So, we've taken the casual and the prosumer streaming market by storm now.

And I think everybody that has seen this thing that regularly does video calls was to buy one. .

Operator

[Operator instructions] Our next question comes from the call in Sebastian from Baird. .

Unknown Analyst

It's Colin Moon for Colin Sebastian. Just one from us. Have not seen the peripheral segment at a 40% gross margin this quarter.

Are you seeing any relief in freight cost so far in Q2? And then do you think you'll be utilizing air freight this quarter to the same degree that you did in Q1?.

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, I certainly hope not. In some cases, air freight occurs because we are so successful product launches that we get sold out and we have to airfreight them, but we keep increasing our inventory of new launches to take care of that. So, I certainly hope that's going to go down. The vast majority of our gaming crystals are fairly small.

So, it doesn't have the same effect on freight and things like power supplies and cases. Those are things that really get affected when the rates go flying up because we just can't keep putting as many into a container.

But having said that, I mean, the overall effect of the Red Sea container issues, I don't know how much people realize the costs went flying up in Q1, had quite an effect, as Michael mentioned earlier, on both cost and lead time. But, yes, I think Q2, we'd expect Air freight definitely to go down, and we'll get some benefit from that. .

Operator

[Operator instructions] Ladies and gentlemen, at this time, I'm showing no additional questions. I'd like to turn the floor back over to CEO, Andy Paul, for closing comments. .

Andrew Paul Co-Founder, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, thank you very much, everybody, for attending the call, and thanks for your continued support. Any further follow-up questions, please contact our Investor Relations department, and we look forward to updating you next quarter. Thank you, and have a good evening. .

Operator

And ladies and gentlemen, with that, we'll conclude today's conference call and presentation. We thank you for joining. You may now disconnect your lines..

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