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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q2
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Executives

Jim Clemmer - President and CEO Michael Greiner - Executive Vice President and CFO Steve Trowbridge - Senior Vice President, General Counsel.

Analysts

Jason Mills - Canaccord Genuity Matthew Mishan - Keybanc Jayson Bedford - Raymond James Matt Hewitt - Craig-Hallum.

Operator

Good morning. And welcome to the AngioDynamics Second Quarter Fiscal Year 2018 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

The news release detailing the second quarter results crossed the wire earlier this morning and is available on the company’s website.

This conference call is also being broadcast live over the internet at the Investors section of the company’s website at www.angiodynamics.com, and the webcast replay of the call will be available at the same site approximately one hour after the end of today’s call.

Before we begin, I would like to caution listeners that during the course of this conference call, the company will make projections or forward-looking statements regarding future events, including statements about expected revenue, adjusted earnings and free cash flow for fiscal year 2018.

Management encourages you to review the company’s past and future filings with the SEC, including without limitation, the company’s Forms 10-Q and 10-K, which identify specific factors that may cause the actual results or events to differ materially from those being described in the forward-looking statement.

A slide package offering insight into the company’s financial results is also available on the Investors section of the company’s website under Presentations. This presentation should be read in conjunction with the press release discussing the company’s operating results and financial performance during this morning’s conference call.

I’d now like to turn the call over to Jim Clemmer, AngioDynamics’ President and Chief Executive Officer. Mr.

Clemmer?.

Jim Clemmer

Thanks, Rob. Good morning, everyone. And thank you for joining us for AngioDynamics second quarter 2018 earnings call. With me on the call is Michael Greiner, AngioDynamics’ Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today, I will provide a brief overview of the operating highlights for the quarter.

Michael will then provide a detailed analysis of our financial performance and an update to our fiscal 2018 financial guidance. After that we’ll open the call to your questions. The second quarter was both rewarding and challenging for AngioDynamics.

While we continue to drive operating efficiencies and position our company for long-term success, our topline performance did not meet our expectations. This led us to reduce our full year 2018 net sales and free cash flow guidance. Our net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 were down 2.6% year-over-year to $86.7 million.

This decrease was primarily attributable to declines in our Venous Insufficiency and Core businesses, as well as year-over-year declines in our non-BioFlo product lines. These were partially offset by growth in our Solero, AngioVac and BioFlo businesses.

Now, I’d like to briefly discuss the performance of each of our businesses during the quarter and outline the strategies we’re implementing to improve performance and drive long-term growth in each of those businesses.

Our Peripheral Vascular business was negatively impacted by year-over-year declines in the previously mentioned Venous Insufficiency and Core businesses. These declines were partially offset by growth in the Fluid and Thrombus Management product lines.

As a reminder, in the year ago quarter, we saw the benefit of roughly $1 million of stocking orders in our Angiographic Catheters business, which was related to a competitor’s product recall, which, as expected negatively impacted our growth rate in the second quarter of fiscal 2018.

As we discussed last quarter, we are not satisfied with the performance of our Venous business, which continues to face reimbursement headwinds, related to a key competitors radiofrequency products. We have a clear understanding of these challenges.

We remain committed to providing patients with the best treatment options and determining how we can best position ourselves for success in this treatment category. On an encouraging note, we saw a record number of AngioVac procedures performed during the month of November and in the second quarter.

In addition to these positive trends, we continued to invest internally in the development of complementary Thrombus Management products and to identify inorganic growth opportunities as well.

Vascular Access primarily non-BioFlo continued to soften during the second quarter, as growth in Midlines was more than offset by declines across the remainder of the portfolio.

However, we continue to accumulate clinical evidence that supports the value proposition for our BioFlo-related products and we are encouraged by what the future holds for this product line. Additionally, our lawsuit against C.R.

Bard is moving forward as planned and we continue to believe that if our PICCs are able to compete on a level playing field, we can gain share in this market, particularly given the gains we have seen from our BioFlo Midline, ports and dialysis product families.

Now, moving on to Oncology, our Oncology/Surgery business continued to perform well, growing 8.4% year-over-year, primarily driven by incremental sales of our recently launched Solero Microwave Tissue Ablation System. Additionally, Oncology Surgery experienced robust sales across several key international markets.

Our team continues to work hard on transitioning Acculis customers to Solero and feedback from physicians remains positive. We also anticipate that we will complete all Acculis transitions during this current quarter.

While we have meaningful work ahead of us to position the company for long-term growth, we have had great -- we have made great strides operationally.

We remain disciplined in seeking out potential M&A, we continue to generate free cash, and importantly, we are driving an improved R&D process, which is the first step in developing a strong pipeline of innovative, high quality products. And now, I’ll turn the call over to Michael Greiner, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer..

Michael Greiner

Thanks, Jim, and good morning, everyone. Before I begin, I would like to remind you that we have posted a presentation on our IR website, summarizing the key items associated with our second quarter results. This information is intended to complement our prepared remarks as we now walk through the quarter’s results.

As Jim mentioned, our net sales for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 totaled $86.7 million, which represents a 2.6% year-over-year decrease. For the six months ended November 30, 2017, net sales were $172.1 million, a decrease of 2.8%, compared to $177.1 million for the same period a year ago.

When adjusting for the stocking orders associated with the Angiographic Catheter recall a year ago, our year-to-date revenue decreased 1.1%.

Our gross margin for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 declined 130 basis points to 49.3% from 50.6% a year ago, primarily driven by an inventory write-off related to VOLTA, our radiofrequency ablation product previously sold in Japan.

Excluding this inventory write-off, gross margin would have been 51.2%, an increase of 60 basis points year-over-year. We remain committed to executing on achieving our full year gross margin target of 52%. We expect to close our second manufacturing plant by the end of January.

In addition, we had annual royalty of approximately $6 million included in cost of goods sold in prior years that will be less than $2 million this year.

In addition to these two significant items positively impacting our gross margin, we continue to focus on smart and efficient spending across our entire manufacturing platform providing us confidence in our ability to end the year with a gross margin of 52%.

Our research and development expenses during the second quarter of fiscal 2018 were $6.1 million or 7% of total sales, compared to $5.9 million or 6.6% of total sales a year ago. Although, this is an increase in our R&D spend versus prior years, it’s currently behind our spend expectations.

As noted on previous calls, we have enhanced our research and development process, and have included various milestones in stage gate requirements before allowing a project to move forward.

As a result, we are very focused on when R&D dollars are to be expended to ensure that we are building an R&D pipeline that will translate into a high quality, high margin product portfolio, because we are only spending when we achieved predetermined milestones or exit certain stages of this process, we are currently below our projected year-to-date spend for our R&D activities.

However, we anticipate that our spending will increase during the second half of the fiscal year and that we will likely close most, if not all, of the current gap to our R&D expenditures for the year.

Selling, general and administrative expenses for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 decreased slightly to $26.5 million or 30.6% of total sales, compared to $27.3 million or 30.7% of total sales a year ago.

The decrease in SG&A on a dollar basis was attributable to our continued focus on cost reduction of activities with a low ROI associated with them. Including, lower spending on consultants and other outside services, as well as leveraging our internal capabilities.

Our adjusted net income for the second quarter of fiscal 2018 was $5.8 million or $0.16 per share, compared to adjusted net income of $6.9 million or $0.19 per share in the second quarter of fiscal 2017.

For the six months ended November 30, 2017, our adjusted net income was $10.4 million or $0.28 per share, compared to adjusted net income of $13.3 million or $0.36 per share a year ago, both the three months and six months lower adjusted net income is attributable to the sales declines already discussed.

Adjusted EBITDAS in the second quarter of fiscal 2018, excluding the items shown in the reconciliation table on our presentation was $13.3 million, compared to $15.2 million in the second quarter of fiscal 2017.

For the six months ended November 30, 2017, our adjusted EBITDAS was $24.6 million, compared to $29.5 million for the same period a year ago. Now, moving to the cash flow and balance sheet, in the second quarter of fiscal 2018, we generated $10.2 million in operating cash flow and $9.4 million in free cash flow, the difference being CapEx.

As of November 30, 2017, we had $51.1 million in cash and cash equivalents and investments, as well as $95 million in outstanding debt, which excludes the netting impact of deferred financing fees on our balance sheet. As we have previously discussed, we are actively pursuing inorganic growth opportunities.

For a variety of reasons, including valuation, we did not complete any M&A during the second quarter, but we will continue to look for value creating opportunities throughout the duration of fiscal year 2018 and beyond.

Additionally, our free cash flow generation continues to strengthen our balance sheet and underlines our focus on financial discipline.

This access to internal and external capital will allow us to pursue assets that align with our long-term growth initiatives, while enabling us to continue to make the necessary investments internally to develop an innovative product portfolio.

Now let me provide you with an update on our financial guidance for the remainder of fiscal 2018 that Jim alluded to earlier. We are reducing our net sales guidance and we now expect fiscal year 2018 net sales in the range of $345 million to $350 million, compared to the previous range of $352 million to $359 million.

We are also adjusting our free cash flow guidance and now expect free cash flow in the range of $30 million to $35 million, excluding any payments we may make related to the DOJ subpoenas previously disclosed.

Although, we are lowering our revenue guidance, our improved operating efficiencies and ongoing focus on cost control, still position us to meet our previously communicated adjusted EPS guidance. As a result, we are reaffirming our adjusted earnings per share guidance range of $0.64 to $0.68.

This excludes any positive impact associated with the 2017 Tax Reform Act.

Speaking of taxes, with regards to the newly signed Tax Reform, we will see a positive impact to our adjusted EPS, primarily due to the decline of our statutory tax rate from 35% to 21%, which is what we use to calculate our adjusted EPS, and as I mentioned, this is not included in our formal guidance of $0.64 to $0.68.

That being said, we do not anticipate any near-term impact on our U.S. GAAP earnings per share, until we fully utilize our net operating losses that we have discussed on prior earnings calls and are disclosed in our past SEC filings.

Finally, items such as minimization of interest expense deductibility, repatriation of overseas cash or the deemed dividend concept or even stock-based compensation related to executives should not have any meaningful impact to our cash tax rate, which will remain comfortably below 15% for the foreseeable future.

With that, I’d like to turn the call back to Jim..

Jim Clemmer

Thanks, Michael. In closing, as we look forward to the second half of the fiscal year, we remain committed to pursuing both organic and inorganic growth.

We will continue to make disciplined investments across all three of our businesses, and to seek out potential strategic acquisitions in order to drive long-term revenue growth and build long-term value for our shareholders. And now, I’d like to turn the call back to Rob for Q&A..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Our first question today comes from the line of Jason Mills with Canaccord Genuity. Please proceed with your question..

Jason Mills

Hello. Thanks very much.

Jim, can you hear me okay?.

Jim Clemmer

Hi, Jason. Yes. Good morning..

Jason Mills

Good morning. I have several questions. I’ll try to limit to a couple.

Just, firstly, could you talk a little bit about -- little bit more about your R&D progress and I guess somewhat related, any specifics or generalities for that matter with respect to your M&A process? And what you’re seeing out there in general and what areas you might be looking? And then, secondly, I am curious how the guidance reduction impacts your relatively recently stated long-term plan and then I have one more follow-up?.

Jim Clemmer

Sure. Okay. Jason, I’ll try to tackle those and Michael will chime in the second half. So a couple of things, the R&D process today is up and running, fully functional in the way we expected when I communicated last year, we’re going to build the process.

So it works now, we have projects in the queue and we have expected launch dates associated with those projects. What we’ll find, Jason, here is at Angio I’ve talked about before, we’re going to need really three paths to get the innovation level where we want it to be.

One is internal R&D; secondarily, it is licensing or partnership or distributor opportunities of other partners; and third is, through M&A. We are strategizing to use all three of those opportunities as we grow revenue.

So today you will see during the course of this calendar year, you’ll see launches come out from the R&D process we put in place last year. Second, I think, you asked a little more about specificity regarding M&A.

So we’ve also targeted, as we mentioned at our Investor Day last year, four of our 10 business product categories that we’re interested in investing in. So we currently have activity in each of those four segments and looking at opportunities in those four areas. There’s nothing here to announce today.

As you know, we are being responsible and cautious based upon valuations that we see in the market, yet we believe there is good opportunities for technology we can bring in add to our commercial ability to get them to the market. And then, finally, I’ll let Michael tackle the other piece, Jason..

Michael Greiner

Yeah. So we are six months into our three-year plan at this point, Jason. Although, we are pulling back a little bit on revenue guidance obviously today that does not impact our ability to believe in what we’re doing over the next 24 months and 36 months.

So we have no comments on the 24 months and 36 months, but we are still marching towards what we stated back in April. The other thing I would just add on the R&D and M&A, as we noted in our prepared remarks, we’re little behind in R&D spend. We did not get to the finish line in M&A for various reasons so far this year.

But it’s -- it was wrapped around us being very focused on the areas that we want to invest in. We want to make sure that when we put dollars in play that they have a high probability of good ROI.

So we’re just being very focused on where it is that we want to participate in those types of activities and so we’re a little behind, as I said in R&D, but we do expect in the second half of the year, we’ll do some catch-up spend as some of our stage A processes accelerate..

Jason Mills

Okay. That’s helpful, Jim and Mike. Thanks. And just as a follow up, Jim, to your commentary on M&A, perhaps, remind us what your discipline is.

Are you looking predominantly at assets that would contribute immediately from a revenue and then relatively short-term contribute to the bottomline or are you looking at a larger target addressable market opportunities that could be dilutive initially and take a little while to develop, it could be larger long-term, maybe just remind us of our -- of your discipline or what we might expect to see as outsiders here over the course of the next year or so? And then, just more specifically, with your current programs, maybe give us an update on your NanoKnife indication progress, if you’ve had any or anything you report there? And then, lastly, maybe what length of time you expect the Bard litigation to take? Thanks for taking all the questions I’ll get back in queue?.

Jim Clemmer

Sure. I’ll try to capture those, Jason. Back there, I guess, you’re looking for a kind of a ranking or -- in our -- how we’re looking at M&A. So, obviously, we’re looking right now in -- again the four areas we identified as the growth pockets that we like, that’s our first hurdle, and we have ideas and activity in those four areas.

From there we’re looking at things whether they’re complementary, adjacencies or white space. We’re all interested in all three. But they have to be accretive from a growth perspective initially.

We also, obviously, would look towards accretion on a full -- on a profit basis, but we’re not afraid of dilution if we find something that’s extremely compelling. So we’re looking at and ranking things in order, but obviously something if it’s dilutive to long-term, that’s going to be a little more -- take a little more to swallow.

The piece, Jason, I would talk about as far as a long-term, I’ll call it “a science project.” I don’t think that’s where we’re looking right now. We have -- we’d rather have things that are either closer to revenue or current revenue.

When I look at things like and you touched upon Nano, what we believe in our Nano platform, when we get our regulatory and clinical approvals correct, we think the science behind NanoKnife driven by the compelling data produced by surgeons who have used, the physicians who have used it, gives up -- give us, excuse me, gives us enough bullishness that this is really the bet we’re making today as well and rather make sure that we invest properly in NanoKnife to get it the right hurdles cleared, so we can go to market in a proper channel, to me that’s a better bet than betting on someone else’s “science project” right now, externally, which comes with risks.

And then, Mike, I’ll pass that other one to you..

Michael Greiner

But with Bard....

Jim Clemmer

I am sorry..

Michael Greiner

So, Steve, did you want to comment on….

Jim Clemmer

Bard litigation. So, Steve Trowbridge is here, Jason. Steve will comment quickly on your Bard question..

Steve Trowbridge

Sure. I think you had two questions. One was on NanoKnife….

Jim Clemmer

Okay..

Steve Trowbridge

… and one was on Bard, with the Bard litigation first. Your question was around timing. Timing on any litigation is very hard to predict. I mean, what we can say is as we disclose, we’re in the very early stages of some of the motion practice. Bard has filed the motion to dismiss. We think it’s a very weak motion. We do expect that motion to be denied.

From there we would then move in to the discovery phase of the trial. As we’ve said before, we think it’s a very clear well-defined case and the discovery should not be protracted, but we do expect the defendant in that case to argue for a more protracted discovery period. We’re going to try to deliver that as much as possible.

So as much as you can predict any litigation that’s basically how we’re approaching it. With the respect to the question on NanoKnife, no new news to report today other than, as Jim had mentioned, we remained very bullish on the technology.

We are actively engaged in those discussions that we talked about with the FDA to try to secure expanded indications and to secure expanded availability of the technology. We are encouraged with the way those conversations are going.

We do hope to have something to announce in the relatively near future and once we do have something concrete to announce we’ll announce that properly..

Jim Clemmer

Great. Thank you..

Jason Mills

Thank you, guys..

Jim Clemmer

Thanks, Jason..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Matthew Mishan with Keybanc. Please proceed with your question..

Matthew Mishan

Good morning and thank you for taking the questions..

Jim Clemmer

Good morning, Matt..

Michael Greiner

Good morning..

Matthew Mishan

Hey, Michael, I think I heard you say that you’re still confident you’re going to end the year at 52% gross margin. I just want to make sure I fully understand.

Is that a 52%, I think, run rate at the end of the year, are you still thinking the full year can be 52% and then you’ll exit somewhere in that 54% kind of range?.

Michael Greiner

Yeah. Exactly. As a matter of fact when I was reading my prepared remarks, I am like, Matt, asked me a question on this because I wasn’t clear. But exactly we just said which is we will exit at a much higher rate than the 52%, so therefore, the full year rate will be in that 52%..

Matthew Mishan

Okay. Great. And then, just going back to the M&A pipeline, it’s probably the most I have heard you guys talk about this. First, just talk a little bit -- if you can, talk a little bit about the pipeline. It sounds like you were close to a deal and had to pull back.

And then, second, with the amount of leverage you would be comfortable going up to?.

Michael Greiner

Yeah.

So, I think, even storing this fiscal year we had commented that last year we’re very focused on internally understanding our capabilities, getting some additional resources available from a personnel standpoint and then when we were ready to look at M&A in a way that we could effectively identify opportunities, execute and then, obviously, most importantly, post-closing ensure that we could get the value creation that would be laid out in any sort of M&A, whether if any of those three sorts of programs that Jim was talking about earlier, we would be ready to do that and I think when you look at our first quarter and second quarter of this fiscal year, we felt confident that we could actively participate in the M&A market.

As it turns out, there were opportunities that we saw that for evaluation or other reasons, just didn’t come to fruition, but we will continue to remain actively looking there for the duration of this year, and obviously, beyond given our level of confidence that we could do this well and that we have the right internal capabilities and platform to do that now.

With respect to how much we would do, and therefore, what our leverage could look like, our existing credit facility provides us with $150 million of revolver capability plus our $50 million in cash, so we have a fair amount of dry powder.

That also allows -- our current facility allows us to go up to 3.5 times leverage net debt to EBITDA and up to actually 3.75 -- 3.75 temporarily for M&A. I can’t foresee a situation where we would do that right out of the gate for the right scenario with the -- to Jim’s point earlier, the right level of accretion and revenue opportunity.

I definitely see us pursuing something that will put us over 3.0 times in leverage. But I think our comfortable target would be in a 2.5 times range longer term.

So, I’d say we’re probably a little underleveraged right now when you think about where we’d like to be from a capital structure standpoint, but we are remaining patient until we find the right asset opportunities..

Matthew Mishan

Okay. Great. And then just lastly on the change in the sales guidance, I don’t think your second quarter number was too far off from where the street was at.

What’s driving the change especially around 3Q and 4Q expectations?.

Jim Clemmer

Matt, as we look into the coming forecasting process, really the Venous Insufficiency business that we called out, some of the competitive headwinds that we’ve faced recently aren’t going to go away immediately, so it’s really a product choice in the marketplace.

So what we’ve done now is we can limit that going forward, we have good plans to limit that impact, but we’re watching a little carryover effect. So we’re being -- we think realistic in giving you guys the best range of what we feel is a realistic set of guidance going forward.

But you’re correct, this Q2 miss was not dynamic, but we’re being responsible and we’ve done a good job forecasting forward..

Matthew Mishan

Right. Thank you very much..

Jim Clemmer

Thanks, Matt..

Operator

Our next question is from the line of Jayson Bedford with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question..

Jayson Bedford

Good morning and Happy New Year to you, guys. Couple questions, I guess, just getting back to NanoKnife and the status there.

Are you running any new formal trials associated with getting a label expansion or a more specific label?.

Steve Trowbridge

Yeah. Jason, this is Steve. At this time, no, we’re not running today any new formal trials and whether formal trials will be required is part of the conversation that we are currently having with FDA..

Jayson Bedford

Okay.

And you expect some sort of, I don’t want to call it resolution, but I think, Steve, your comment was expect some sort of announcement in the near-term, is that the way I interpret your comments?.

Steve Trowbridge

We do expect to be able to give some additional information, some news regarding our progress in the not too distant future..

Jayson Bedford

Okay.

In terms of one of the growth drivers Fluid Management, can you just comment maybe at the level of how quickly that business grew and where is the growth coming from, is it more of mix, is it share gains or is it step up in volume?.

Jim Clemmer

So, Jayson, it’s Jim. So a couple things are happening, first, we have a really good sales force in that business, that’s done a really good job focusing on what we do well, which is our -- going back to our core NAMIC business. It’s well managed. It’s well represented.

Really, Jayson, it’s share gains and if you go back to comments we made three and four quarters ago, we talked about this business, how we took SKUs out, about 900 SKUs we removed to really clarify the business, give our customers clarity of choice and give us a little more operational streamlining our process.

We also and I talked about some price increases, because some of this business was that margins we didn’t like, but we brought in attention and a focus to adhere. Again, that’s one of the reasons why we remain bullish in some of the other categories that are similar, because now we’re showing what AngioDynamics can do when you focus on a category.

And in this case, one was a very good competitor, we’re able to grow the market, grow the business in a market that’s essentially flat. So it’s essentially good execution in this case. Now we expect that good execution to carry to other categories going forward as well..

Jayson Bedford

Jim, how much of the growth is price/mix?.

Jim Clemmer

At this point, Jayson, it’s almost all just its market growth. Some of the price that we’ve got was over the last three quarters or so, little bit of price may remain, but it’s really share gains..

Jayson Bedford

Okay..

Jim Clemmer

Volume..

Jayson Bedford

In Access, how much of that portfolio was converted to BioFlo?.

Jim Clemmer

It’s about 50/50 at this point, Jayson. It’s about half and half..

Jayson Bedford

And then maybe for Michael, the impact of Corporate Tax Reform, I realized it’s not in the guide, but I am guessing next quarter when you report, you’re going to report a lower tax rate to reflect this on an adjusted basis, is that fair?.

Michael Greiner

Yeah. That’s exactly what we will do, Jayson, and then, we’ll also give you the number as if we have the old statutory rate, because that’s what we’re going to --internally look at our $0.64 to $0.68. So we will -- as soon we execute on all the other things as we reaffirm the $0.64 to $0.68.

We’ll finish above that this year due to what you just described, but -- because that’s the benefit of math and not really our cash tax rate, we wanted to look at the $0.64 to $0.68 with the old statutory rate in place. But you will see the 21% come through to your question on adjusted EPS for 3Q and 4Q..

Jayson Bedford

So, will it go from, you report now on an adjusted basis 36%, is it going to go to 21%?.

Michael Greiner

Exactly. Yeah..

Jayson Bedford

And so, sorry for, I realize this isn’t a huge issue, but are you going to report three EPS numbers?.

Michael Greiner

Well, there will be a GAAP EPS, there will be adjusted EPS and then for purposes of you guys to guide to the $0.64 to $0.68, we will let you know what that would have looked like using the old tax rate..

Jayson Bedford

Okay.

And you’re still assuming the -- that you pay the med device tax here in the back half of your fiscal year?.

Michael Greiner

That’s right. We assume that for the beginning of the year and we had that in our planning for the full -- for the back half of the year, that’s correct..

Jayson Bedford

Okay. Thanks. I’ll get back in queue..

Jim Clemmer

Thanks, Jason..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] The next question is from the line of Matt Hewitt with Craig-Hallum. Please proceed with your question..

Matt Hewitt

Good morning, gentlemen. Just a couple of questions for me..

Jim Clemmer

Hi, Matt. Good morning..

Matt Hewitt

First on NanoKnife, so you comment a little bit on the regulatory side of things, maybe an update on the reimbursement or the -- how that’s progressing?.

Jim Clemmer

Update is the same. We’re continuing our conversations with CMS. We’re looking to coordinate the conversations that we’re having with FDA and CMS, and as we have more concrete updates we’ll provide those..

Matt Hewitt

Okay.

And then just to follow-up on the tax rate, is it -- because it’s so new and you and your accounts are still kind of working through that you would be reporting all three of those EPS numbers or why not just make the switch and kind of provide a little bit of clarity?.

Michael Greiner

Yeah. I mean, we were -- the attempt was not to be disingenuous that we were reporting an adjusted EPS increase, because of a math calculation. In other words, our U.S. GAAP EPS is not going to be impacted by 21%, because of our NOLs. So what we are trying to say, look at the beginning of the year guidance, we told you $0.64 and $0.68.

Today we’re indicating -- we’re reaffirming $0.64 to $0.68 and that’s not because we got a lower tax rate, that’ because we’re going to continue execute well, and yes, when we report outgoing third quarter and fourth quarter because of this new lower rate, we will get a bump mathematically by using 21% versus 36%..

Matt Hewitt

Okay. Great. All right. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I will turn the floor back to management for closing remarks..

Jim Clemmer

So, again, thank you for coming in today. Thank you for your questions. We remain committed towards growth at AngioDynamics. We talked about pathways to get to growth, our internal R&D process combined with the balance sheet as a strength point to enable M&A activity in the future.

What we also didn’t talk about today in the call, but again our commitment to operational excellence, the quality of our products and improving our efficiency levels. I’ll remind folks again nearly a year ago we announced the closure of two of our four manufacturing facilities due to higher overhead cost and low efficiencies.

Now I am happy to tell you today those projects are on schedule. One of the two plants is closed and one will be closed at the end of January. So a really good job was done by our operations team, responding in an urgent fashion, maintaining high levels of quality and efficiency for our customers during this process.

So using some of these core foundational building blocks, we look forward to growing AngioDynamics in the future. Thanks for paying attention today..

Operator

Thank you, everyone. This will conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation..

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