Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc.

Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc.

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Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc., an offshore energy services company, provides specialty services to the offshore energy industry primarily in Brazil, the Gulf of Mexico, North Sea, the Asia Pacific, and West Africa regions. The company operates through three segments: Well Intervention, Robotics, and Production Facilities. It engages in the installation of flowlines, control umbilicals, and manifold assemblies and risers; trenching and burial of pipelines; installation and tie-in of riser and manifold assembly; commissioning, testing, and inspection activities; and provision of cable and umbilical lay, and connection services. The company also provides well intervention, intervention engineering, and production enhancement services; inspection, repair, and maintenance of production structures, trees, jumpers, risers, pipelines, and subsea equipment; and related support services. In addition, it offers reclamation and remediation services; well plug and abandonment services; pipeline abandonment services; and site inspections. Additionally, the company offers oil and natural gas processing facilities and services; and fast response system, as well as site clearance and subsea support services. It serves independent oil and gas producers and suppliers, pipeline transmission companies, renewable energy companies, and offshore engineering and construction firms. The company was formerly known as Cal Dive International, Inc. and changed its name to Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc. in March 2006. Helix Energy Solutions Group, Inc. was incorporated in 1979 and is headquartered in Houston, Texas.

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Market Cap$1.43B
EPS0.2100
P/E Ratio46.33
Earnings Date07/22/2026

Earnings Call Transcript

HLX • 2023 • Q1

Operator
Greetings, and welcome to the First Quarter Helix Energy Solutions 2023 Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation all participants will be in a listen-only mode. Afterwards we will conduct a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded Tuesday, April 25, 2023. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mr. Brent Arriaga, Chief Accounting Officer. Please go ahead.
Brent Arriaga
Good morning, everyone, and thanks for joining us today on our conference call for our first quarter 2023 earnings release. Participating on this call for Helix today are Owen Kratz, our CEO; Scotty Sparks, our COO; Erik Staffeldt, our CFO; Ken Neikirk, our General Counsel; and myself. Hopefully, you've had an opportunity to review our earnings press release and the related slide presentation released last night. If you do not have a copy of these materials, both can be accessed through the For the Investor page on our website at www.helixesg.com. The press release can be accessed under the Press Releases tab and the slide presentation can be accessed by clicking on today's webcast icon. Before we begin our prepared remarks, Ken Neikirk will make a statement regarding forward-looking information. Ken?
Ken Neikirk
During this conference call, we anticipate making certain projections and forward-looking statements based on our current expectations and assumptions as of today. Such forward-looking statements may include projections and estimates of future events, business or industry trends or business or financial results. All statements in this conference call or in the associated presentation, other than statements of historical fact, are forward-looking statements and are made under the safe harbor provisions of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995. Our actual future results may differ materially from our projections and forward-looking statements due to a number and variety of risks and uncertainties assumptions and factors, including those set forth in Slide 2 and our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K, our quarterly reports on Form 10-Q and in our other filings with the SEC. You should not place undue reliance on forward-looking statements, and we do not undertake any duty to update any forward-looking statement. We disclaim any written or oral statements made by any third party regarding the subject matter of this conference call. Also during this call, certain non-GAAP financial disclosures may be made. In accordance with SEC rules, the final slide of our presentation provides reconciliations of certain non-GAAP measures to comparable GAAP financial measures. These reconciliations, along with this presentation, the earnings press release, our annual report and a replay of this broadcast are available under For the Investor section of our website at www.helixesg.com. Please remember that information on this conference call speaks only as of today, April 25, 2023, and therefore, you are advised that any time sensitive information may no longer be accurate as of any replay of this call. Owen?
Owen Kratz
Good morning, everyone. We hope everyone out there is doing well. This morning, we'll be reviewing our Q1 results, performance and operations. We will provide an outlook for the market and review our current guidance for 2023. Moving to the presentation, Slides 6 through 9 provide a high-level summary of our results and key highlights for the first quarter 2023. Our first quarter results were largely as expected with the backdrop of a strong global offshore energy market driving improved financial results that were negatively impacted by scheduled vessel recertification, maintenance and project mobilization. Highlights for the quarter include strong winter utilization on the Well Enhancer and Seawell in the UK. Full quarter of well intervention work had improved rates on both the Siem Helix 1 and 2, strong winter seasonal utilization and financial performance in robotics. Helix Alliance have generated a solid seasonal adjusted contribution, executing our first i-Plough project for the U.S. East Coast wind farm project, completion of regulatory certification and maintenance on the Seawell Well Enhancer Q7000 and Q5000. And on the sales front, we secured our first Asia Pacific wind farm trenching project offshore Taiwan and added an additional decommissioning project in Australia for the Q7000. Revenues for the quarter were $253 million, a decrease of $38 million from our fourth quarter results. We generated a net loss of $5 million compared to net income of $3 million in the previous quarter. Adjusted EBITDA for the quarter was $35 million. During the quarter, our operating cash flow was negative $5 million, including $17 million of dry dock and recertification costs. We spent $7 million on CapEx, resulting in a negative $12 million in free cash flow. Our quarter results were significantly impacted by the regulatory certification and maintenance on four of our well intervention assets. In addition, the Q7000 spent 37 days mobilizing to the Asia Pacific region with revenues and costs deferred until project commencement. I'd like to thank our employees for their efforts with a solid start to 2023. Executing safe and efficient operations for our customers has always been our hallmark, and our goal is to remain an established leader in the offshore industry. On to Slide 9. From a balance sheet perspective, our cash balance at the end of the quarter was $167 million. At quarter end, we were in a net debt position of $91 million. In February, we were pleased to announce our share repurchase program. During the first quarter, we repurchased 660,000 shares of our stock for approximately $5 million. As we continue executing the program, we will balance the need to manage our – and fund our operations, capital spend, including the Alliance earn-out, maturing debt and strategic investment opportunities along with the share repurchase program. We plan to generally align this program with our cash flow generation and initially target deploying 25% of our free cash flow, noting the seasonality of our business. I'll now turn the call over to Scotty for an in-depth discussion of our operating results.
Scotty Sparks
Thanks, Owen, and good morning, everyone. Firstly, I would like to thank our teams offshore and onshore for another well-executed quarter. There has been a huge positive shift in the market compared to one year ago, the teams have reacted well, securing high utilization as well as contracting some longer-term projects with improved rates and conditions. We continue to hold strong and firm relationships with our employees, partners and clients. Market conditions are much improved. Going forward, we have a much stronger backlog than we've seen in recent years and very good visibility for the next few years. All of our businesses are well positioned for 2023 and beyond. In the first quarter of 2023, we continue to operate globally with minimal operational disruption of operations in Europe, West Africa, Asia, Brazil, the Gulf of Mexico and off the U.S. East Coast. We continue to operate at high standards with strong uptime efficiency for the quarter. Moving on to Slide 11. During the first quarter, we produced revenues of $250 million, resulting in a gross profit margin of 6%, generating a gross profit of $15 million, producing EBITDA for the quarter of $35 million, a significant improvement against $150 million of revenue and $3 million of EBITDA in the first quarter of 2022. During the first quarter, the well intervention fleet achieved utilization of 80% globally, down quarter-over-quarter due to the paid transits at the Q7000 to the APAC region and the scheduled regulatory maintenance of the Q7000, Q5000 Seawell and Well Enhancer. We achieved 79% utilization in the Gulf of Mexico, 97% in Brazil, strong winter month utilization of 81% in the North Sea and 41% utilization for the Q7000 on its paid transit to the APAC region. The Robotics division, chartered vessel fleet achieved high utilization of 91% in the quarter, operating five vessels, working 295 vessel days between ROV support, trenching, renewable works globally and working on multiple renewables projects in Europe, Asia and the U.S. East Coast. The Helix Alliance fleet achieved 86% utilization for the liftboats, 39% for the OSVs and the crew boats and the Energy Service division achieved 77% utilization of the P&A systems, 1,039 operational days working for numerous clients in the Gulf of Mexico and 44% utilization on the coiled tubing systems of 238 days. Due to the seasonal conditions, the free diving support assets achieved 31% utilization and the heavy lift barge was mostly seasonally warm stacked as expected, conducting the short project achieving 14% utilization. Slide 12 provides a detailed review of our Well Intervention business in the Gulf of Mexico. The Q5000 had utilization of 59%, with all available working days contracted prior to undertaking its scheduled regulatory inspection in the first quarter. The vessel performed well conducting production enhancement work on four wells in ultra-deepwater working under a multiyear campaign for Shell. The Q4000 had increased utilization of 100% in the quarter. The vessel completed a two well production enhancement scope for one customer, followed by a single well enhancement scope for another customer and then ended the quarter completing a two well abandonment campaign for another client in ultra-deepwater. Positively going forward, absent the Q4000 dry docking Q2, we expect both vessels without high utilization with contracted or awarded work into the Q4 and already have work awarded in 2024 with good visibility of potential further activity with steadily increasing rates. Both key vessels continue to operate under the integrated Helix SLB Subsea Services Alliance package. In February, managed out of the Gulf of Mexico office, one of our newly acquired 10-K Subsea IRS systems commenced mobilization for an 18 month contract in Australia. Moving to Slide 13, our North Sea well intervention business had a very strong first quarter considering the seasonal winter months with solid utilization for both vessels in the UK, a huge improvement to achieve 81% utilization compared to 13% in Q1 of 2022. The Q7000 was under paid transit to APAC region and completed dry dock in late March. Subsequently, the vessel continued its mobilization to New
Brent Arriaga
Thanks Scotty. Moving to Slide 21, that outlines our debt instruments and their maturity profile as of March 31. Our total funded debt decreased to $267 million at quarter-end with the semi-annual payment. The 2023 converts with remaining principle $30 million mature in Q3 this year. Moving on Slide 22 provides an update on key balance sheet metrics including cash, liquidity, long-term debt, and net debt levels that you're in. With cash of $167 million, our net debt position was $91 million. At year end, under our ABL facility, we had no borrowings outstanding in $80 million of availability, with resulting liquidity at $247 million. I will now turn the call over to Erik for a discussion on our outlook for 2023 and beyond.
Erik Staffeldt
Thanks, Brent. As you've heard this morning, we've had a solid start to 2023 and the offshore market continues to show its strength. We are maintaining our guidance for 2023 revenue of $1 billion to $1.2 billion, EBITDA $210 million to $250 million, free cash flow generation of $110 million to $150 million with the capital spend expected to be $50 million to $70 million. Based on our first quarter results and on the strength of the market, we are currently trending towards the higher end of our guidance range. These ranges include some key assumptions and estimates, any significant variation from these key assumptions and estimates could cause our results to fall outside the ranges provided. Our quarterly results are likely to continue to be impacted by seasonal weather, North Sea and Gulf of Mexico shelf, primarily in the fourth quarter. In addition, the timing of our vessel maintenance periods and project mobilizations will cause variances between quarters. Overall, we expect the second half of 2023 to be stronger than the first half, with the third quarter likely being our strongest quarter. Providing key assumptions by segment and region starting on Slide 25, first with our Well Intervention segment. The Gulf of Mexico is expected to continue to be a very strong market with improving rates and expected strong utilization on the Q4000 and Q5000. Q4000 is currently in dry dock and expected to last approximately 75 days. In the UK North Sea, both vessels have contracted work into Q4 with the Seawell having work into Q1 of 2024. Both vessels completed short maintenance periods in Q1. Activity levels in the North Sea Well Intervention market continue to be robust. The Q7000 is currently in Australian waters mobilizing for its two-week [ph] New
Owen Kratz
Thanks, Erik. As you’ve heard, 2023 has started well, Helix is currently exceeding our initial 2023 expectations. Our initial guidance for the year was $210 million to $250 million EBITDA. And while it may be too soon to update the guidance due to the normal gives and takes of the remainder of the year, we can say that we’re currently trending toward the upper end of the guidance. Q1 is typically a bit messy. It’s impacted by how much of the prior year’s clients’ budgeted work carries into the New Year. How early the New Year’s budgeted work begins and how much maintenance work on our assets as scheduled. Of course, offshore work is always impacted due to the seasonality of the weather. This is also why we historically scheduled dry docks and related CapEx expenditures for Q1. The negative impact to our quarterly free cash flow is just a timing issue resulting from the front-end loading of this CapEx. The year-over-year comparison of Q1 results demonstrates that demand is strong and increasing. Even while we incurred a meaningful amount of scheduled maintenance during the quarter and the Q7000 was in transit from West Africa to Asia Pacific region, results were positively impacted by having our two vessels in Brazil back on multiyear contracts, doing well intervention work at better rates. These and other rates were agreed prior to the surge in demand. The contracts do have escalating rates built in and future pricing of options means we expect to see continued improving results over the next few years. Rates for our intervention services continues to improve as rig rates continue to increase. We’re seeing strong demand for our services to maximize existing production. Decommissioning work in general also continues to be strong, especially in the Gulf of Mexico shelf as a result of increasing number of mature fields reaching the end of production and the strong desire to see oilfields abandoned in an environmentally safe manner. On the renewables front, we see steadily increasing demand. This industry has been led by the UK, Norway and the EU, but on a global basis, many regions are now launching lease sales for future development. The time lag from lease sale to actual work can be as long as five years to seven years, which indicates that this should be a growing market for many years to come. We expect contributions from our – to our returns from this market to grow with the market over time. Overall, we expect to be strongly free cash flow positive for the foreseeable future. Our current course is to first, build cash to be able to cash settle our remaining debt on maturity. Second, continue to execute the share repurchase plan as announced and in line with our free cash flow generation. And third, it sets our options for growth beyond the operating leverage of our current assets. A key to growth in a cyclical industry while generating a strong return on capital is timing. We plan to be patient and selective as we explore opportunities. We believe there will be select potentials for growth within the three buckets of our business model. First, maximizing remaining reserves; second decommissioning; and then third, offshore wind support. All three are poised for sustainable growth in the years ahead. We look forward to continuing to execute on what is shaping up to be a strong 2023. We believe we’ve positioned ourselves well to capture the current market, be opportunistic about future growth and continue to deliver value to our shareholders. Erik?
Erik Staffeldt
Thanks, Owen. Operator, at this time, we’re ready to take any questions.
Operator
Perfect. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Greg Lewis [BTIG]. Please go ahead.
Greg Lewis
Yes. Hey, good morning, everybody. Guys, hey, thanks for the updated detailed guidance. I typically wouldn’t ask this question because you kind of addressed it. But just given some of the weakness in the stock today, Erik and Owen, you made some comments about kind of trending towards the high end of the guidance, realizing we haven’t changed it. Could you maybe give us a little bit of color around why we’re kind of expecting now trending towards the higher end of the range, just was it incremental workbook, the better pricing, maybe getting a better handle on costs? Any kind of color you can give us around that?
Erik Staffeldt
Yes, I think there’s a – I’ll start – I’ll go ahead and start off. I think there’s a few drivers which we tried to highlight in our slides. I think – first, I think we’ve been able to secure additional work. I think we had two big contract wins here in the first quarter with the signing of the trenching project in Taiwan. And of course being able to fill in a gap on the Q7000 in the Australian market. And I think, so those are definitely improvements. I think overall though, what gives us confidence in why we feel that we’re trending towards the upper range is the continued strength of the market. We’re still seeing rates improving, obviously, not at the pace of last year, but we’re still seeing a steady improvement there. I think we’re in conversations where our customers are making plans for 2024 already. And to a certain extent, our assets – our utilization is filling out quite extensively in 2023. I think so all those things are really helping us trend towards the upper end of the range. I don’t know, Owen, if you’ll have anything to add?
Owen Kratz
No, just simplification. At the time of giving guidance, it’s all a function of utilization and rates and both right now with what we’re booking in the second, third and fourth quarter, utilization wise and rate wise are exceeding the assumptions that we made in our initial guidance.
Greg Lewis
Great. And then, around pricing, clearly last year was a nice monster move higher. Things definitely seem to be trending in the right direction. You did mention that we are starting to look at and not even look at, we actually are taking some work – some contracted work into 2024. Any kind of loose, rough estimates you can give us around how the pricing dynamic is evolving in 2024 versus where we are today?
Scotty Sparks
I’ll take that. So first of all, in Brazil, the contracts for the two vessels are fixed. So there’s not much we can do in Brazil, but North Sea we are – we have been awarded work and the price has been increased – increasing sort of 15% to 20% year-over-year. In the Gulf of Mexico, we’re still increasing pricing. Every tender that goes out, there’s a bit of an increase on the pricing and we’re securing work. So Gulf of Mexico and North Sea well intervention markets, we’re definitely seeing the year-over-year increase. In Robotics, the trenching market is very robust thanks to the renewables expansion. And so we’re increasing pricing there. Supply and demand issues mainly, but the – in the Robotics – renewables market vessels are just being taken up because it is expanding globally. And we’re seeing that our services are required and increase in pricing.
Greg Lewis
Yes. And then, I did want to just kind of touch on that, the Horizon Enabler, which is on that flexible contract. It seems like the renewables, I guess, we’ll just broadly call it the offshore renewables market is continuing to improve. Obviously, your vessels are keeping busy. Is there any thoughts about maybe, or I’ll ask it this way, are we – is management worried about vessel availability on the chartering inside to do work is kind of we look out over the next 12 months?
Scotty Sparks
No, I would say that we’re quite well covered for the assets that we have options going into 2024. Remember last year, we took the charters on the Grand Canyon vessels out for five years. So we have solid pricing and cost base for the Grand Canyon charters. We have an option on the Sheila Bordelon going into 2024, 2025. We have an option on the Horizon Enabler going into 2025. So we’re quite well set. We will be on the look for further vessels as the U.S. market increases. We have…
Greg Lewis
Okay. And that was kind of what I was getting at. Not your availability. I’m saying like, as you look at the potential, the projects that are out there and work you want to go when? It almost looks to me like you’re going to have to go out to the charter end market to bring in another vessel or two?
Owen Kratz
I’ll jump in here. I would say the market is very, very tight both on the wind side and the oil and gas side vessels are just tight in all the classes. We feel like we’re comfortably set. But we worry about vessel access both having too many and too few depending on where we are in the cycle right now. I think we’re comfortable. It’s going to be hard to add additional tonnage at that reasonable rate. So it depends on where the rates go in the market as to how much you could capture the growth opportunity. Right now, I would say that we’re probably sitting asset light compared to what we could work. But I think sitting asset right – light in a tight and rate improving market is the right position to be sitting in.
Greg Lewis
Yes. Okay.
Scotty Sparks
And that’s the reason why we just took the same type as for the age of trenching and also the GloMar Wave on the three-year contract to support our site clearance market. We’ve been gingerly coming into the site clearance market and we’ve seen the expand and that’s why we’ve gone all in on a three-year deal for the GloMar Wave.
Greg Lewis
Perfect. Okay. Hey, thank you very much for the time.
Scotty Sparks
Okay. Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of David Smith [Pickering Energy]. Please go ahead.
David Smith
Hey, good morning. Thank you for taking my question.
Owen Kratz
Good morning.
David Smith
So net debt near 90 million, at the midpoint of your free cash flow outlook, you would be net debt negative by year end, despite returning 25% of free cash flow through repurchases. So I wanted to ask how much flexibility there might be on that 25% free cash flow return framework? And maybe how you see the trade-off between targeting net debt neutrality versus buying back your stock that looks to be approaching a low-teens free cash flow yield?
Erik Staffeldt
So, yes. I think obviously on the numbers that you cited, I think you’re directly correct. I think it’s important that as we initiated, our share repurchase program, we set an initial target of 25%. Obviously that is something that we’re going to monitor and manage. Obviously, there will be an opportunity to increase that. I think part of that is as we start generating our outlook for 2024 and our cash position for 2024. So it’s an initial target that we put out there, David, and we’ll continue to look at it as you could say, our outlook and visibility continues to grow. And so there – I think there is room for you could say upwards revisions to that going forward. In general, I still think, well, obviously, we tried to outline the parameters that are important to us from a cash generation cash management. We do have the maturity debt that we feel we need to be in a position to cash settle. We do have the earn out associated with Alliance, which will be due in early 2024. And so we have these competing needs for our cash that we’re balancing. But we feel good about the position that we’re in and the direction that we’re going with our cash. And once again, I think we’ll have the opportunity to revisit our positions as we go forward.
David Smith
I appreciate the color. And if I could ask a slightly long follow-up, maybe a little bit bigger picture question. But if I remember correctly, the original thesis for the heavy well intervention vessels is you could do the P&A and intervention work more efficiently than a rig. You could build a vessel at a discount to the rig and price it at a discount to the rig. Now, I think you’ve demonstrated the efficiency improvement. Certainly, during the downturn, it looked like you were pricing the Q4 and Q5 at or better than where market rates dropped [ph] for deepwater rigs. So I wanted to ask, with deepwater rig rates back into the 400,000 per day plus range, should we think about the opportunity for the heavy well intervention vessel pricing to migrate back to that historical discount to the deepwater rigs or might there be an opportunity to close that historical discount just given the demonstrated efficiency advantages versus the rigs?
Owen Kratz
I'll take that. I think historically, you'll find that during strong demand cycles, we are able to close that discount. In fact, for a brief period back in 2013, we were actually pricing at a premium to rigs because of our efficiency. So that being – but there's two components of the rate increases going forward, but I'm looking at: One is in response to where the rig rates go, and I believe the rig rates are going to go higher, and therefore, all of our spot rates can move higher. But then on top of that, we entered into these multiyear contracts and some MSAs giving pricing prior to 2022, which are at substantially lower than current market rates. So as those – as the escalators in those contracts kick in each year and then as those contracts roll over and we're able to price back to the spot market, then there's a substantial potential for rate increase for some of our main assets.
Scotty Sparks
I'll just add that I think you're picking up on the heavy intervention rigs, but you should also think of the North Sea in the light intervention where our rates are substantially higher than rig rates purely because of our efficiencies. Rigs in the North Sea are generally mode [ph] and they are probably at about 50% or 60% of the current rates we charter in the North Sea because of the pure efficiencies of not having to put our anchors and other services. So .
David Smith
I appreciate that extra color.
Scotty Sparks
Thank you.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of James Schumm [Cowen]. Please go ahead.
James Schumm
Hey, good morning everybody.
Owen Kratz
Good morning.
James Schumm
Good morning. The midpoint of the Robotics revenue guidance calls for an increase of about 9% or so this year. Can we expect a similar EBIT or EBITDA uplift in 2023?
Erik Staffeldt
I think overall, Jim, I think that our – I think that our – probably our EBIT was off the top of my head, more than likely be flat. I don't think you – has been to assume a dollar-for-dollar increase there.
James Schumm
Because Erik, that's because less trenching work. Is that what's driving that?
Erik Staffeldt
No. We had some – I think there were some, obviously, increased costs that are flowing through our structure as we've added more charters. I think there was – we naturally expected it to be a little bit more challenging with a few of the contracts that we were able to execute in 2022 above improvements over our fixed pricing, and so we were able to get excellent margins. And so some of that was a combination of better weather and better execution from our operations. And so as we planned and forecasted our 2023, we assume that area would more than likely be flat. We wouldn't necessarily expect to see improvements in those areas.
James Schumm
Okay. Understood. Thank you. From an earnings perspective, can we expect a sequential benefit for the Q7000 in 2Q? And if so, can you quantify that? I know there's a lot of moving pieces with mob and demob and the accounting for that. So I don't know if you could provide any help there.
Erik Staffeldt
So yes, the Q7000 [ph] is going to, in general, have a lot of noise in our quarterly results, here in the first quarter, no revenue, but we still had some costs flow through the P&L, our depreciation of some of our [indiscernible]. If you are in the second quarter, we expect it to start working in the May time frame. And then from that standpoint, as we recognize the revenue, we're going to be recognizing a daily rate plus the amortization of the deferred revenue and deferred cost. And so overall, it's going to appear with a very high day rate and a very high cost in our daily numbers. Overall, obviously, we expect improvements to the overall Q7000 P&L performance quarter-over-quarter. And we expect to be in a position, obviously, of generating positive cash here as it goes to work.
James Schumm
Okay, thanks a lot. Appreciate it.
Operator
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Don Crist [Johnson Rice & Company]. Please go ahead.
Don Crist
Good morning, gentlemen. How are y'all today?
Owen Kratz
Good. Thanks.
Don Crist
I wanted to ask a bigger picture question. We recently saw one of the drilling contractors sign a contract for P&A work. And that at least indicated to me that the market is really tight and should remain tight for many years to come. And I just wanted to ask about when you're having customer conversations out there, Are they getting a little bit more desperate today on work for 2024 and 2025 and more willing to sign contracts further out. Than we were, call it, nine or 12 months ago today. How are those customer conversations going?
Owen Kratz
I think you're right. I think the customers are starting to worry about availability. They are looking for longer-term commitments at today's pricing. Of course, the corollary to that is the contractors are a little worried about giving today's pricing in an environment where the rates are continuing to move up. Going into this year, we were willing to give rates for two years, but not beyond that because we didn't know where the market was going. As a result, we've got some contracts that are priced below the current market for the next couple of years. So we're sort of in that same boat. We're a bit leery about giving contract pricing too far out in this robust market. But you are right, there are a number of producers that are looking for a multiyear commitment on long-term contracts and just long-term priced MSAs.
Don Crist
So does that lend you to do more kind of variable rate or quarterly repricing contracts going forward? Is that what we should see on any new contracts?
Owen Kratz
It takes two forms. One, we can just set higher rates in the contract each, as the years progress or you can pick a rate and tie it to an index. Those are the two main mechanisms.
Don Crist
Okay. I appreciate the color. It looks like there's several years – several good years coming up. I appreciate the color. Thanks.
Owen Kratz
Congrats.
Operator
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Samantha Hoh [Evercore]. Please go ahead.
Samantha Hoh
Hey, guys. Just a real quick one for me. I was wondering if you could maybe address the cost side of the equation a bit more, maybe just even on the SG&A line. But also in terms of just what you're seeing on like labor and material and that good stuff.
Scotty Sparks
Yes. So obviously, the labor market is very tight at the moment. We – at the start of this year, we implemented some good salary increases for all of our employees, both onshore and offshore. So our costs have increased, but that's also in line with pushing our rates up as well. So supply chain is also tightening. Those rates have gone up. So we are definitely seeing an increase in cost, but we're countering that level increase in rates.
Erik Staffeldt
And then I think on the SG&A side, obviously, I think there has been an impact, obviously, from the, you could say, inflation that's been seen out there. In addition to that, from our standpoint, we're going to see the full year impact of the acquisition of Alliance in our numbers. So overall, from a dollar standpoint, we do expect an increase I think overall, we do focus on SG&A that's less than 10% of our revenues. I think this quarter was just under 8%, and I expect it to be in that 8% to 9% range going forward.
Samantha Hoh
Okay. That was it for me. Thanks.
Operator
At this time, there are no further phone questions. I'll turn it back to you speakers to continue the presentation or give any closing remarks.
Erik Staffeldt
Okay. Thanks for joining us today. We very much appreciate your interest and participation and look forward to having you on our second quarter 2023 call in July. Thank you.
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