Mark Stegeman - Chief Financial Officer Larry Wexler - President and Chief Executive Officer Jim Murray - Senior Vice President of Business Planning.
Vivien Azer - Cowen and Company Susan Anderson - FBR Capital Markets.
Good morning and welcome to the Turning Point Brands Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please also note today’s event is being recorded.
At this time, I would like to turn the conference call over to Mr. Mark Stegeman, Turning Point Brands’ Chief Financial Officer. Sir, please go ahead..
Thank you, Jamie. Good morning and thanks for joining our call today. I'm Mark Stegeman, CFO of Turning Point Brands. Participating with me on the call today are Turning Point Brands President and CEO, Larry Wexler; and Jim Murray, Senior Vice President of Business Planning.
Earlier today we issued a press release covering second quarter and year-to-date performance. This release can be located in the IR section of our website www.turningpointbrands.com. We will also be posting a replay of today's conference call on our website.
This morning we plan to discuss our operating results and trends as well as progress making towards our strategic growth goals. Following our formal remarks, we will open up the floor to Q&A.
As is customary, I direct your attention to the discussion of forward-looking and cautionary statements in today's press release and the risk factors in our filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The disclosure outlines various factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from projections or forward-looking statements that maybe cited in today’s discussion.
These forward-looking statements and projections are not guarantees of future performance and you should not place undue reliance upon them, except as provided by federal securities laws, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements.
We may also discuss today certain non-GAAP financial measures; these measures and reconciliations to the GAAP information along with the reason management believes that provide investors with useful information regarding the company's financial condition and results of operation are set forth in the press release.
I will now turn over the call to Larry Wexler, our CEO..
Thank you and good morning. I appreciate the opportunity to discuss our results and review the substantial progress we are making executing our strategic plan and expanding our presence within the growing OTP market. Since we went public in May 2016, we have focused our energies primary into three areas.
First, building our core focus brands; second, acquiring OTP companies that expand our capabilities and offer growth opportunities; and third, building our company's infrastructure for growth. We have made considerable progress in all three of these areas during the second quarter. Let's start with our focus brands.
Led by Stoker’s and Smokeless products and Zig-Zag in smoking, our focus brands outperformed our competitors. Smokeless and Stoker’s remains among the fastest growing MST brands and Stoker’s MST also achieved yet another record share in the quarter. In chewing tobacco, Stoker’s also produced a record quarterly share.
Stoker’s product quality and the enthusiastically engaged consumer base continue to propel the brand forward. In smoking, the iconic Zig-Zag brand strengthened its share in cigarette papers was the number one brand as measured by Nielsen dollar sales. In MYO cigar wraps, the Zig-Zag ‘Rillo wraps rollout continues with great success.
The brand maintains its industry leading share position. And finally in NewGen, VaporBeast distribution engine generated strong gains to increase share of customer requirements as evidenced by larger order sizes and more frequent orders. On the acquisition front, we completed our third transaction since we went public last year.
On June 30, we acquired Vapor Shark, a well regarded manufacturer of proprietary liquids and multichannel marketer of vaping products including proprietary vaping devices. It’s another excellent addition to our company and I'll say more a little later about Vapor Shark, VaporBeast and the potential synergies we see.
The integration of the five smokeless tobacco brands we purchased from Wind River in November 2016 is now largely complete and the manufacturing has migrated into our chewing tobacco sourcing model. We've not yet started to expand the retail footprint of the Wind River brands, they have already surpassed the market shares they previously held.
We expect to expand distribution in targeted geographies in the fourth quarter delivers the brand’s inherent strength. Regarding the third area, our corporate infrastructure, we're proactively enhancing our internal capabilities to make sure we have the right structure in place to foster and accommodate organic and acquisition growth.
We're expanding our sales force and refining how we target growth opportunities. Year-to-date June, our manpower hours were up about 5% over a year ago. We're actively seeking to add sales professionals with good business acumen, a fiercely competitive spirit and a passion for the lighting consumers.
We carefully monitor a select list of metrics to optimize sales force effectiveness. Year-to-date productivity measures are encouraging. We have previously talked about how our shares in high volume opportunity accounts often expand almost in a linear fashion as we increase call frequency.
Year-to-date call frequency as part of our Stoker’s MST share expansion strategy is up versus year ago and on a larger base of stores contacted.
We're beefing up our compliance and regulatory structure to prepare for expanded FDA requirements methodically adding key staff positions and legal regulatory and scientific support areas particularly in NewGen as we gain additional perspective on the FDA requirements.
[indiscernible] in this area result in higher SG&A expense, which was important to increase our capacity to meet the regulatory requirements and to enable us to integrate and leverage the opportunities we see in our expanding vapor portfolio. On the capital side, we're working to facilitate readily available funding.
To that end, we filed an S-3 shelf registration that provides us the potential to issue up to $200 million in equity capital. We do not have immediate plans to use this every pathway, but it’s there and available if and when we need it. Mark will provide more detail on the filing when he discusses our financials.
We had a gratifying second quarter and first half. I’m pleased with what we’ve accomplished. Even though as many of you have heard me say in the past, we’re always hungry to accomplish more and to do it more quickly. Second quarter net sales grew almost 40% to a record $72.1 million.
That figure includes the sales from VaporBeast and Wind River smokeless tobacco brands both of which were acquired last November.
And even though we do not own Vapor Shark during the second quarter because we were influential in the management of the company the accounting rules considered a variable interest entity and their financials were consolidated into our results putting net sales which totaled $3.2 million in the quarter.
Gross profit rose 28.6% to a company record $32 million, including $1.2 million from Vapor Shark. Net income attributable to TPB, which excludes Vapor Shark was $7.4 million. Let me give you a deeper understanding of the quarter’s operating performance.
First, let's talk about smokeless products, which covers are chewing tobacco and moist snuff or MST brands. Sales for the quarter rose to a record $22 million. Stoker’s MST once again drove performance in smokeless with case shipments up about 10%.
Its remarkable growth story particularly since it occurred in the face of a highly competitive environment one less shipping day in the quarter. Comparisons against a good prior year numbers that benefited from $1.3 million in incremental sales due to the timing of the major trade show and the reverberations from a tax increase in Pennsylvania.
Industry volumes for MST were up about 1% and chewing tobacco declined by approximately 10%. TPB expanded its market share in both MST and chewing tobacco in the quarter. Gross profit for the Smokeless segment increased to a record $11.5 million and gross margin expanded 220 basis points to 52.4%.
While we continue to execute on our plan to build Stoker's MST profile in the store universe, chain store placements were up in the quarter, but partially offset by reductions in some of the lower volume independent stores.
Net new doors were less than 1,000 for the quarter as we intensified our strategy to strengthen retail sales call frequency in key outlets to drive organic sales growth.
We are part of a very competitive environment, but there are significant levels of competitive promotion and high levels of advertising, but we are confident in our superior differentiated product that consumers love in our retail rollout strategy, which involves increasing the call frequency of sales visits in strategically important outlets.
Now turning to our smoking products segment. Segment sales were $27 million in the quarter, up $200,000 over last year. Industry cigarette paper volumes increased by low-single digits while MYO cigar wraps continue to deliver robust double-digit volume gains.
Zig-Zag increased the market share in cigarette papers and maintain its industry leading share in MYO cigar wraps and solid store [indiscernible] wraps. The industry including TPB was impacted by California's imposition of a 65% excise tax on MYO cigar wraps. About 5% cigar wrap industry volume is in California.
We were roughly parallel with that percentage. California industries cigar wrap volumes for the quarter decreased by 17% versus last year’s second quarter with our sales down in California by 27% versus last year's second quarter. We're addressing this initial adverse TPB trends with specific promotional strategies and new products.
We anticipate that this tax will affect trade behavior for the next six months and we will continue to closely evaluate the tax impact on consumer behavior. Gross profit in the smoking segment increased by $400,000 to $14.1 million and gross margin increased 120 basis points to 52.2% of the sales. Turning to the performance of NewGen.
It is clear that VaporBeast has made a dramatic impact on our NewGen business since we acquired it last November and made this sales distribution engine one of our core focus brands.
Driven by VaporBeast’s strong growth, the NewGen segment increased net sales by $19.9 million versus year ago quarter to a record $23 million, which includes $3.2 million from Vapor Shark.
At VaporBeast, we continue seeking to further bolster their strong growth and are executing incremental sales initiatives to further leverage our opportunities and reach. We're also seeing strengthened relations with our supplier base overseas.
Gross profit expanded to a record $6.3 million, a $6 million increase over last year, including $1.2 million from Vapor Shark. Gross margin expanded 27.5% in the quarter versus 10%. Move onto how our most recent acquisition of Vapor Shark fits into our developing vapor strategy.
Vapor Shark is based in Miami and manufacturers proprietary e-liquids and markets proprietary vaping devices to consumers through 34 Vapor Shark branded retail stores, its internet website and through with about 1,000 independent vape shops.
We started working Vapor Shark in March through a strategic management agreement and in short order helped them dramatically improve chronic out-of-stock inventory issues and bringing process improvements across the organization. Our business relationship evolved and on June 30 we executed a warrant with marginal cost to acquire them.
In the second quarter, Vapor Shark sales were $3.2 million and they lost just over $0.5 million, largely from onetime expenses related to streamlining operations and lower sales volume because of the out-of-stock situation I mentioned.
As part of the Vapor Shark transaction, the former owner will operate the seven company stores as franchise stores effective January 2018. As a result, going forward TPB will only realize the wholesale value of these sales.
We see meaningful opportunities to leverage Vapor Shark’s proprietary products to make further process improvements and getting [ph] synergies in conjunction with VaporBeast distribution platform. This will take some time as much work needed to be done.
While we have collaboratively resolved most of the critical out-of-stock issues, there are a number of structural process improvements that are needed across the platform. And of course there is the actual integration to unleash available synergies. Going forward, we're confident this will add long-term value to our shareholders.
Based on the most recent trends, a number of operational initiatives in the process of being completed and the just mentioned corporate stores divesture, we are currently projecting net sales for the next 12 months from Vapor Shark of approximately $10 million and income before taxes of about $1 million.
For Turning Point as a whole, star performers of each segment, VaporBeast, Stoker’s and Zig-Zag, provide steady cash flows to fuel our future. We are using these funds for brand innovations, helping to finance our acquisition activity and building a stronger capital structure. I'm sure the recent FDA announcement is on everyone's mind.
We view competing in an FDA regulated environment as one of our core competencies. We continue to strengthen and expand our regulatory expertise and capabilities. So, let me say a few words about the recent announcements. The FDA acknowledged that there was indeed a continuum of risk and identified cigarettes as the largest tobacco public health issue.
In the FDA press release they mentioned that. Nicotine, while highly addictive, is delivered through products that represent a continual risk and is most harmful when delivered through smoke particles and combustible cigarettes. As you know, as other tobacco products marketer, we do not sell cigarettes.
The press release also impartially recognized the potential for innovation to lead to less harmful products. They announced meaningful extensions to premarket applications reaching into 2021 and 2022. They also eliminated the sunset provision and will allow manufacturers to continue selling products while applications are under review by FDA.
Finally, perhaps most encouragingly, the plan to make the product review process more efficient, predictable and transparent for manufacture. The FDA will finalize guidance for premarket tobacco applications and issue regulations outlining what information it expects to be included in these applications.
We applaud the bold new approach by Commissioner Gottlieb and look forward to working with the FDA to implement a sensible regulatory regime based on the continuum of risk. We’re doing what is necessary to preserve our ability to market quality products to adult consume. There will be a cost.
However, the new additional time to prepare and if the FDA establishes a product review process, which predictable and transparent, should have a meaningful positive impact on TPB by creating a more well defined pathway to illustrate our current products and it’d be especially helpful in articulating the route to future innovation.
If you go through the process, we are carefully scrutinizing each of our products to determine the potential cost of resources need for full FDA compliance and approval. It appears some of our smaller products will not warrant such investment and working through how to handle these products going forward.
As part of our rigorous evaluation, we recently discontinued six MYO or RYO tobacco SKUs. These products collectively represented about $1.3 million in sales over the 12 months ending June.
Given the exceptionally high federal excise tax on MYO tobacco and the Master Settlement Agreement obligations, profitability levels would not warrant the incremental investment required to achieve FDA go-forward selling approvals. We are striving to minimize any potential write-offs.
We’ll apply the same rigor to the balance of our product line while streamlining the portfolio for improved focus. We have developed a leadership team to drive FDA preparation, including R&D and QA and are adding high quality professionals princely in vapor to manage our expanded portfolio.
Our vapor infrastructure investments are necessary to meet the landscape needs especially warranted given FDA's Commissioner Gottlieb's encouraging thoughts on the potential for innovation to lead to less harmful productions.
We’ve set our regulatory resources to provide a point of differentiation relative to smaller companies that do not have or cannot afford these compliance measures. That remains true today. [indiscernible] talk with a number of OTP acquisition candidates that could further enhance our market position and product portfolio.
Before I turn the call over to Mark to address our financial highlights, let me summarize where we stand. As stewards of your investment, we remain focused on providing quality products that thoroughly delight adult consumers. Consumer satisfaction is of the utmost importance.
We will continue to drive our focus brands and our tobacco portfolio through the continuation of the rollout of Stoker’s MST and Smokeless and the market expansion of Zig-Zag ‘Rillo cigar wraps in smoking. In vapor, we've made substantial progress integrating and accelerating VaporBeast sales and margin contribution.
We're now working to integrate and leverage Vapor Shark. We'll continue to explore acquisition candidates and opportunities in the OTP sector. We are fully aligned with TPB’s shareholders and the overarching goal of growing top line revenue and earnings.
As part of that alignment in 2017, the board introduced a long-term management incentive program, but I won't go into full details. It’s a multiyear program payable in shares based upon achieving certain return on investment capital goals. Now I will turn it over to Mark for his remarks..
$3.2 million in net sales, $1.2 million in gross profit, $1.8 million in SG&A and a net loss before taxes of $556,000, which is excluded from the net income attributed to TPB.
As Larry mentioned, while we're very excited with the Vapor Shark acquisition and the potential it represents, there's much work that needs to be done to accelerate sales vitality and momentum. This will take time and effort.
As a result, we're projecting net sales of $10 million and income before taxes of approximately $1 million over the next 12 months. Now, for our performance. Segment net sales mix continues to shift on the growth of VaporBeast. For the quarter, smokeless represented 31% of net sales, smoking 37% and NewGen 32%.
Net sales for the quarter increased 39.8% to a record $72.1 million and gross profit for the quarter increased 28.6% to a record $32 million from $24.9 million a year ago. Gross margin was 44.4% down from 48.2% a year ago primarily as a result of a mix impact of VaporBeast’s inherently lower distribution market.
Going forward, we expect gross margin on the NewGen segment to hover in the mid-20% range.
Consolidated SG&A expense in the second quarter was $18.4 million, compared to $14.1 million in 2016 driven principally by VaporBeast and Vapor Shark, strategic expenses, sales and marketing, and regulatory manpower enhancement, as well as expenses for VaporBeast SG&A in the quarter, which was $1.8 million.
Strategic expenses were $400,000 in the quarter, up about that same amount from a year ago. Net product launch costs were $300,000 and $300,000 higher than last year's second quarter. Non-recurring public company costs in relation to the 2016 IPO were $600,000 lower in 2017.
Recurring public company costs were $400,000 in the quarter, up $200,000 from a year ago. And lastly, $77,000 was expensed relating to the long-term management incentive program that Larry mentioned earlier. New product launch costs for MST and cost of goods sold in this year's second quarter were $200,000, compared to $300,000 last year.
Net income for the quarter attributed to TPB, which does not include Vapor Shark was $7.4 million. Second quarter weighted average fully diluted share count was $19.6 million and fully diluted EPS was $0.38 per share. Now let me discuss some of the non-operating drivers that improved our net income versus year ago.
For the quarter, interest expense was $4 million or $2.9 million lower than last year as a result of our lower debt post IPO and the lower interest rates resulting from our February 2017 refinancing. Our MSA account during the quarter produced investment income $100,000 compared to $300,000 last.
Finally, reported income tax expense was $2.8 million for the quarter versus $609,000 last year. Net operating losses or NOLs available to offset federal income taxes amounted to approximately $33 million at quarter and. We expect to utilize these NOLs into the first half of 2018.
We continue to project our annual effective tax rate will be approximately 28% for 2017. However, due to NOLs, there will be no federal cash taxes until we fully utilize our NOLs in 2018. For the quarter adjusted EBITDA increased 22.8% to $15.8 million versus $12.8 million last year. Now let me discuss some other items in the quarter.
Federal excise taxes included in cost of goods sold totaled $5 million. FDA fees accounted for and cost of goods sold amounted to $150,000. CapEx for the quarter was $200,000 and we expect full year CapEx of approximately $2 million. Net debt at quarter end was $220 million. Net debt to adjusted EBITDA is 3.9 times.
Net debt to pro forma acquisition adjusted EBITDA was 3.7 times.
With regard to the impact of excise tax changes, which I've mentioned on a previous calls, relative to year ago comparisons, Pennsylvania's $0.55 per ounce excise tax on smokeless products began October 1, 2016 and continue to have a material impact on trade volumes in the quarter for both the industry and us.
Year-over-year Pennsylvania chewing tobacco volumes were down roughly 30% for both the industry and TPB. Pennsylvania MST year-over-year declines were greater than 10% for both the industry and TPB.
Importantly, however, and as anticipated, the sharp erosion associated with the tax increase is now moderating as both industry and TPB Pennsylvania smokeless volumes are up mid-single digits on a sequential quarter basis.
Despite a number of competitive challenges in the quarter and significant integration work, we had a remarkably strong quarter with many company records achieved, including record retail market shares in both chewing tobacco and MST on the strength of Stoker's, record smokeless net sales in gross profits, expanded retail market share in cigarette papers while maintaining our leadership position in MYO cigar wraps both on the strength of the iconic Zig-Zag brand, record net sales and gross profits in NewGen on the power of VaporBeast and most importantly record total company net sales gross profit and adjusted EBITDA.
With that, I'll turn the call over to Larry for a few final comments before we turn to Q&A..
total sales calls made by the sales organization up in the quarter and year-to-date versus year ago, store call frequency as the number of times you visit and merchandise a store is also up, retail store distribution on our focus brands up for Stoker's chew, Stoker's cans and Stoker's MST cut tubs.
Distribution on Zig-Zag cigarette papers and ‘Rillo wraps were also up. International sales were still rather small are up by meaningful amount as we expand our brands to consumers around the world.
Our first two acquisitions are performing well with the Wind River smokeless shares up verses the pre-TPB era and especially encouraging VaporBeast sales results. And finally, while early, we made meaningful progress in social media with the Stoker’s Own Your Own Instagram and YouTube channels and the zigzag.com update.
So in addition to the solid results we summarize this morning, we believe we have a firm foundation moving forward. I hope you sense that the entire management team is extremely enthusiastic and determined to achieve our strategic goals and increase the long-term value over a fine company. We appreciate your participation on the call today.
And with that, I’d like to open up the floor for questions..
Ladies and gentlemen at this time we'll start the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] and our first question today comes from Vivien Azer from Cowen and Company. Please go ahead with you question..
Thank you. Good morning..
Good morning..
Good morning..
Good morning, Vivien..
So a number of questions for me. I’d like to please start with MST category if you don't mind. Mark, that’s for all that detail in terms of the impact from Pennsylvania.
I mean if my math is right like that would imply that maybe the industry was in a plus 1%, but if we hadn't seen that tax increase maybe it was a plus 1.5%, which still fundamentally is below the new normal growth rate, right? I mean if we go back a couple years, MST used to grow 5%, now the new normal is 3.5%, so 1.5% is a little bit surprising to me, one, because it's off trend and, two, because it's occurring while the cigarette volumes are deteriorating, which historically has not been the case.
So can you offer a little bit of color on kind of what you're seeing in terms of overall MST category volume growth? Thanks..
Vivien, it’s Jim. A couple of things, remember how we measure MST and that’s ex-pouch because we don’t complete in the pouch and snus segments. So, historically, when you think of anywhere from 2% to 4% perhaps even 5% growth that was a category level that the industry speaks about.
We view it a little differently because we're not competing in the pouch segment. So the pouch segment -- pouch and snus, but the pouch segments generally is growing close to double-digit rates. We are just not participating in that segment yet. Now I will also agree with you that the non-pouch business as we measure it has also slowed down.
Why that's inconsistent with maybe declining cigarette – I'm not so sure how to make that linkage. But there is this move to – that we've seen over time in tobacco generally to cleaner, more discreet, more convenient products to use.
And so there's this shift out, it's still obviously an enormous category, but the shift out of a non-pouch segment into the pouch segment..
Thanks for that Jim. Just to follow up though, your point is well taken on the way that you measure it, but your numbers are not that far off from [indiscernible] that MST category on the first six months of the year with a plus 1% and they do measure pouch. I’m still kind of just struggling with lighter categories slowing..
Yeah, I’m not so sure I can answer that. I’m disappointed to say that, but there is no question, I’m fully aligned with you that the category has slowed down over really the last 18 months are so. The growth rates in the smokeless MST category have unquestionably slowed down..
Okay. Thanks for that. The good news of course is that Stoker’s is gaining share, which was great to see. Jim or Larry can you articulate what Stoker’s share was please in MST in the quarter and then just provide a little context on kind of the sequential trajectory around those share gain? Thanks..
Sure, Vivien. Stoker’s share was 2.9% in the quarter. I think that was up 0.3 over last year. We continue to make gains.
We're seeing – which is sort of interesting, we're seeing growth in how tubs starting to reaccelerate and I think that as people get introduced to the brand through the cans, they are seeking out the value proposition of the other tubs. So we're seeing growth across both cans and tubs. I think that's good news for the brand..
Indeed it is and it seems that your volume market share gains are actually accelerating, so kind of digging into that, could you offer a little color on any new distribution gains that you realize in the quarter from a store count prospective?.
Our store counts were up marginally in the second quarter, chains were up and we lost some marginal independent accounts. So netted to it’s about less than 1,000 stores for the quarter.
But I think that reflects a shift in strategy that we talked a little bit about last quarter and we're continuing – we are directing our field sales force to get more frequency in stores. We've done a number of studies that show that as we increase frequency in stores, our share gains are – our share grows incrementally and significantly.
So we are focused on strategically important accounts and increasing their frequencies there as opposed to getting marginal independent stores that are out there. We do remain – continue to remain focused on chain store acquisition and we believe that's a huge opportunity for us going forward..
Terrific. Thanks so much..
[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Susan Anderson from FBR Capital Markets. Please go ahead with your question..
Hi, good morning. Nice job on the quarter. I was wondering – I may have missed this, but did you break out the impact that Wind River had on the smokeless category and then also when do you expect it to really kind start to contribute to growth after we start to cycle the acquisition? Thanks..
Yeah, Susan, thank you. Thank you for your compliment. We don't break out Wind River, but we did mention and in fact it is true that its share is actually up despite not being the focus of our sales force yet. We're looking forward to the fourth quarter where we'll start increasing the distribution on the Wind River brands..
Okay, great.
And then in the NewGen category, the growth ex the acquisitions, maybe just talk about what you're seeing in the e-cig category and then any update on Primal?.
Yeah, I think in e-cig I will talk more about e-vapor both the e-cigs and the other products. What we are seeing is growth in both the traditional retail as well as in the story universe where VaporBeast sells their product.
We're also seeing VaporBeast continuing to make incremental gains with their consumers with both average order sizes up as well as the order frequency. Stores are actually ordering more frequently. So, we – what we see from that is that while there is no syndicated data, we believe that the category is growing in these favor shops..
Great. That’s helpful.
And then I guess any update on the acquisition pipeline, would you feel comfortable given the slew of kind of recent acquisitions making another one in the near-term and then how should I think about leverage targets now, I think you took on a bit more debt from VaporShark and then if there are more acquisitions in the future?.
We are already talking with a number of companies, it was nothing close to where we want to disclose any of those context. We do see it is still a pretty fertile field out there, companies, we’re looking at them.
As far as our leverage and I guess you asked that within the context of acquisitions, if you add up all the acquisitions that we’ve done, it’s been relatively leverage neutral, maybe and slightly positive. There was some marginal increase in leverage from VaporShark, but we expect that to payoff pretty well in the Future.
We maintain our 2.5 to 3.5 goal – if you adjust our – we are currently at 3.9 and I think if you adjust it for pro forma acquisitions, we’re running about 3.7..
Great. That’s helpful..
By end of the year, if current trends continue, we should be down. We are already close or inside the range that we’ve been talking about..
Great. That’s good to hear. I think that’s all for me. Good luck..
Thanks a lot, Susan..
[Operator Instructions] And at this time, I’m showing no additional questions. I’d like to turn the conference call back over to management for any closing remarks..
Thanks for joining us on the call today everyone and we look forward to discussing our Q3 2017 results with you in November. Have a great day..
Ladies and gentlemen that does conclude today’s conference. You may now disconnect you lines..