Arman Panjwani – Investor Relations Evan Spiegel – Chief Executive Officer, Co-Founder and Director Imran Khan – Chief Strategy Officer Drew Vollero – Chief Financial Officer.
Ross Sandler – Barclays Stephen Ju – Credit Suisse Justin Post – Merrill Lynch Mark Mahaney – RBC Capital Markets Heath Terry – Goldman Sachs Lloyd Walmsley – Deutsche Bank Eric Sheridan – UBS John Blackledge – Cowen and Company Douglas Anmuth – JPMorgan Mark May – Citi Jason Helfstein – Oppenheimer Youssef Squali – SunTrust Richard Greenfield – BTIG Brian Fitzgerald – Jefferies John Egbert – Stifel Ron Josey – JMP Securities.
Good afternoon, everyone and welcome to Snap Inc.'s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Earnings Call. At this time participants are in a listen-only mode. After the prepared remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] This call will be recorded. Thank you very much. Mr. Arman Panjwani, Investor Relations, you may begin..
Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Welcome to Snap Inc.'s Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2017 Earnings Conference Call. With us today are Evan Spiegel, CEO; Imran Khan, Chief Strategy Officer; and Drew Vollero, CFO.
Earlier today, we made a slide presentation available reviewing our key engagement and financial metrics for the fourth quarter and full year 2017, which can be found on our Investor Relations website. Now, I will quickly cover the Safe Harbor.
Today's call is to provide you with information regarding our fourth quarter and full-year 2017 performance in addition to our financial outlook. This conference call includes forward-looking statements.
Any statement that refers to expectations, projections, or other characterizations of future events, including financial projections or future market conditions, is a forward-looking statement based on assumptions today.
Actual results may differ materially from those expressed in these forward-looking statements, and we make no obligation to update our disclosures.
For more information about factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from forward-looking statements, please refer to the press release we issued today, as well as risks described in our prospectus dated March 1, 2017, particularly in the section titled Risk Factors.
This information can also be found in our other filings with the SEC, when available. Our commentary today will also include non-GAAP financial measures. We believe that the use of these non-GAAP financial measures provides an additional tool for Investors to use in evaluating ongoing operating results and trends.
These measures should not be considered in isolation from, or as a substitute for, financial information prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliations between GAAP and non-GAAP metrics for our reported results can be found in our press release issued today, a copy of which can be found on our website at investor.snap.com.
At times in our prepared comments, or in response to questions, we may offer additional metrics to provide greater insight to our business or our quarterly and annual results. This additional detail may be one-time in nature, and we may or may not provide an update in the future on these metrics.
Please refer to our filings with the SEC to understand how we calculate our metrics. With that, I'd like to turn the call over to Evan..
our partners, our community, and our company. This year we generated over $100 million in revenue for our content partners and we’re excited to deepen these relationships over the coming years.
In addition to our ongoing efforts in user growth, augmented reality, and content, we believe that the redesign of our application that we announced on our last call will provide a strong foundation for the evolution of our business.
That’s because our redesign separates social from media, solving many of the problems that arise when friends are commingled with professional content creators. While we are still very early in the rollout, we are optimistic about the potential to unlock additional growth with the redesign of our application.
As expected, it will take time for our community to get used to the changes, but overall, we are pleased with the initial results and will be making the redesign available to our entire community in Q1.
There is a lot of work ahead as we optimize the updated application, but our early observations support the thesis behind the new architecture and the many growth opportunities that it provides.
For example, in one of our first test markets, we saw that the number of Daily Active Users watching Publisher Stories on Discover grew by over 40% when compared to the old design of the application.
We also saw gains in ad performance, both in terms of view time and engagement, as well as an overall increase in our Average Revenue Per User when compared to the prior design. Additionally, we believe that the redesign has also made our application simpler and easier to use, especially for older users.
Compared to the old design, core metrics around content consumption and time spent in the redesigned application are disproportionately higher for users over the age of 35, which bodes well for increasing engagement among older users as we continue to grow our business.
Our design and engineering teams are constantly monitoring the rollout of the redesign and making improvements based on what we learn from our community and their usage of Snapchat. These adjustments to our products will continue over the next few quarters as we continue to optimize the application.
Our work during 2017 is proof that we aren’t afraid to make big changes for the long-term success of our business. We redesigned the Snapchat application, transitioned our Snap Ad business to an auction model, and made changes to our team to improve productivity and collaboration.
We enter 2018 energized by the opportunities in front of us and excited to deliver against our plan for user growth, augmented reality, and content. I’ll now hand over the call to Imran for a discussion of our business results..
Thank you, Evan, and hi everyone. We had a great fourth quarter. Total advertising revenue for the quarter was $281 million, an increase of 74% year-over-year and 38% quarter-over-quarter. The investments we have made across our advertising business are starting to pay off, and we are pleased with the results we have seen so far.
We remained focused on three key areas throughout the year, and I would like to provide an update on each area. One, enhancing our ad product suite; two, developing efficient tools for our advertisers; and three, proving the effectiveness of our advertising. First, enhancing our ad product suite.
We want to offer ad products that are valuable to all advertisers. This means developing and refining solutions that solve a wide variety of business objectives. Not only does this allow us to serve more advertisers, it also helps us become a one-stop shop for those that continue to invest in our platform. Our strategy is paying off.
For example, of the Top 100 Ad Age Advertisers that started advertising with us in Q1 of 2016 or earlier, each one of them, at a parent level, also spent with us in 2017 and over 90% of them spent in every quarter of 2017. In Q4, we launched a new ad format called Promoted Story.
Our advertising partners have told us that they want a way to spend more time with their audiences. Promoted Story allows brands to take advantage of the familiar stories format that we invented four years ago.
It’s been just over a month since launch, and we have seen some amazing Stories from advertisers such as State Farm, Dominos, T-Mobile, and American Express. More importantly, our community is embracing our new format. On average, users that chose to watch Promoted Stories viewed them for over 10 seconds.
In the coming weeks, we plan to make this format available in our self-service tools, making it the first Story Ad unit buyable within the Snap Ads auction platform. We have also seen strong growth in our direct-response business. In April of last year, we launched the ability to bid for installs in our self-service tools.
This allowed advertisers to optimize campaigns for users most likely to install their app. Our ongoing investment in machine learning and our commitment to improving efficiency for advertisers is paying off. We drove 15 times more app installs in December compared to April, while continuing to drive increased return on investment.
As we doubled our total revenue from app-install campaigns since the beginning of Q4, we also significantly decreased Cost per Installs for our advertisers. One great example of our progress on the direct-response front is Etermax, the creators of the mobile trivia game, Trivia Crack.
Using our app-install ads, they were able to acquire high-value, highly engaged users at scale. They saw that Snapchat users were 25% more likely to still play the game after a week, compared to users from other platforms. And overall Snapchat users played the game for twice as long as users acquired anywhere else.
Importantly, they were able to achieve these results at a Cost Per Signup and Cost Per Install that was 20% lower than other channels. The second area of focus is developing efficient tools for our advertisers. We know that in order to truly scale our business, advertising on Snapchat has to be really easy.
As Evan mentioned, in Q4, over 90% of Snap Ad impressions were delivered programmatically. In Q4 of 2016, this number was under 10%, so we’re really happy about how quickly our advertisers have embraced this transition and continue to do so. In fact, the number of advertisers spending in the auction doubled quarter-over-quarter.
We’re also really excited that these self-service tools have allowed us to reach different types of advertisers, not just big brands. Revenue from small and medium-sized businesses more than doubled quarter-over-quarter. For the first time, revenue in Q4 from advertisers outside of Ad Age’s Top 100 exceeded revenue from the Top 100 Advertisers.
The Penny Hoarder is a great example of an SMB that is growing their business on Snapchat. The Penny Hoarder is a website dedicated to personal finance tips. They came to Snapchat with the goal of finding a new audience that couldn't be reached on other platforms.
In just a few months’ time, their Snap Ads campaigns generated 40% higher returns than other platforms and drove a 51% increase in their revenue. We're thrilled by the results they have seen. Our self-service tools have also enabled us to quickly scale in international markets.
For example, in the Middle East, we made the strategic decision to rely exclusively on our selfserve tools for Snap Ads. Starting on October 1, Snap Ads could only be purchased through Ad Manager, and this decision quickly paid off.
In three months, we more than tripled the number of advertisers spending in our auction, and out of all our international offices, this region was our top contributor to overall revenue growth in Q4. Still, we have a lot of opportunity to make it even easier for advertisers.
Snap Publisher, a web tool for vertical video creation, was a great milestone on the Snap Ads front, and most recently, we took a big step in helping brands with augmented reality. As Evan mentioned, we launched Lens Studio less than two months ago to make it easier for our community and our advertisers to create Lenses.
Foot Locker was our first advertiser to leverage Lens Studio to create a Sponsored Lens. They worked with our Lens Studio partner, North Kingdom, on a Lens that was incredibly successful and highly engaging. On average, users played with their Lens for 45 seconds! Lastly, proving the effectiveness of our advertising.
In Q4, we made a lot of good progress with Snap Pixel. We focused on scaling its usage as well as building out its capabilities. In just two months since its launch, some of the most visited websites have installed the Pixel across thousands of domains.
Many of these advertisers were previously not spending with us until we had stronger first-party measurement solutions. One out of every three advertisers that participated in the Q4 Pixel beta spent their first dollar on Snap after they got access to the Pixel. The Pixel is helping us to unlock dollars, especially from performance budgets.
We think this will continue as we build out additional capabilities, such as dynamic custom audiences, conversion optimization, and secondary objective optimization. We also rolled out Pixel Custom Audiences in December, which allows advertisers to reach audiences based on actions such as visiting their site.
It is very early but we’re seeing good results. We still have a lot of work to do here but we’re excited about what this can do, mostly for our midmarket and SMB customers. Our focus on online to offline measurement throughout the year helped us capitalize on the holiday season.
We know Q4 is a critical time for many of our advertisers, especially retailers, and they want their campaigns to drive store visits and sales. Target partnered with us, using Snap Ads and Filters, to drive action intent and in-store visitation for holiday shopping.
We drove a 16 percentage-point lift in action intent to shop at Target for the holidays as measured by Nielsen, as well as over 660,000 incremental visitors to their stores as measured by Snap to Store, which is our proprietary solution that measures foot traffic in stores.
We continue to invest in our measurement ecosystem and now have 19 third-party measurement partners. In Q4, we partnered with the National Research Group, a leading data provider in the movie industry, to understand the impact that our ad campaigns have on opening weekend box office.
Our ongoing partnership demonstrates that Snapchatters represent 36% of moviegoers and 50% of ticket sales. Additionally, movies that advertise on Snapchat are 22% more likely to be moviegoers’ first choice in theaters on the opening weekend, a metric that is highly correlated to opening weekend box office.
We’re really happy with the progress we made in 2017. We still have a lot of work to do, but we’re excited to keep the momentum going. Thank you for the time today, and here’s Drew to discuss our financial results..
growing revenues coupled with banded user expenses fueled gross margin expansion again in Q4. Please note that when I discuss all of our expense figures including gross margins, they will exclude stock based compensation and related payroll taxes as well as depreciation and amortization and non-recurring charges.
The cost leverage we are seeing is particularly apparent on a per user basis. In Q4, our ARPU increased 46% year-over-year to $1.53, while our costs per user, or CoRPU, only increased 2%, to $0.98. We’ve been able to moderate user cost growth through the successful execution of our multi cloud strategy.
Specifically, hosting costs per user dropped from $0.72 a year ago to $0.70 in the quarter. That's great progress in a year when our sales have more than doubled and engagement metrics have grown substantially. As a result, worldwide gross margins expanded to 36%.
Internal analyses continue to suggest our economic model can scale well as North American gross margins are well above the worldwide average, driven by their higher ARPU, which was $2.75 in the quarter. Now moving down the income statement, the primary driver for operating expenses remains people cost.
In the quarter, our hiring pace slowed substantially. Specifically, net adds were slightly more than 100, as we started to lever our significant early investments in people. Hiring mix remains a priority, and the absolute number of back-office employees declined in Q4.
Overall operating expenses were up 17% sequentially, driven by modest hiring, increased sales commissions, legal costs, and year-end expenses. Lastly, we focused on capital deployment priorities and thoughtfully managed our cash position this quarter.
CapEx remained modest at $21 million and less than $85 million for the year, driven by our capital light infrastructure strategy. Our CapEx per user for the year was less than $0.50, which we believe leads the industry.
M&A was modest in the quarter, and we adopted a sell-to-cover approach for vested restricted stock units for employees during the quarter, which substantially reduced our cash spend. As a result, we were able to reduce our cash burn by 49% sequentially. We ended 2017 with $2 billion in cash and marketable securities.
As of December 31, 2017, total shares outstanding were 1,222 million and 1,420 million on a fully diluted basis. Q4 represented a significant step forward for Snap on the key financial metrics. As we move forward, we’ll continue to manage our business for the long term. In 2018, there is much to do and we are focused to deliver on our key priorities.
I want to share some financial thoughts with you for the early part of the year. First, as we think about revenue growth in Q1 2018, we start with the current momentum in the business. Specifically, we saw strong growth in Q4, and our year-over-year advertising revenue growth rate accelerated to 74%.
In Q1, we are planning for our year-over-year revenue growth rate to moderate from the Q4 pace. The majority of our revenue is generated through brand advertising, which seasonally peaks in the fourth quarter.
Additionally, we are planning for the transition of the creative tools business to the programmatic platform, which we believe will drive additional impressions at lower prices and result in more modest growth in the first half of 2018.
Also note that in Q1 2017, we had $8 million of Spectacles revenue which we are planning to be substantially down year-over-year and sequentially. On hosting expenses, we exited the fourth quarter with a slightly higher cost per DAU than the quarterly average of $0.70. The cost impact of our application redesign has yet to be fully determined.
That said, we are focused on executing additional cost saving initiatives in 2018 to continue to offset future cost increases. With respect to operating expenses, we are planning for continued gains in team productivity and modest hiring.
We are planning for operating-expense growth to moderate in the first half of 2018 and be up low double digits versus the second half of 2017, primarily driven by more focused hiring in front-of-house functions. Please note that this does not include any potential acquisitions.
Capital expenditures were less than $85 million in 2017, and we are planning for a slight increase in 2018. We are moving many of our headquarter teams to a series of leased facilities in Santa Monica during the first half of the year, although we do expect additional moves to occur later in the year and into 2019 as well.
With that, I will now turn the line back to the operator to open up the call for questions..
That concludes the prepared remarks for today’s earnings call. And we will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] In the interest of time we ask that you please limit yourself to one question, after your initial question is asked your line will be muted. At this time we will pause momentarily to assemble our roster.
And our first question is from Ross Sandler with Barclays. Please go ahead..
Great, thanks. Just two questions. One for Evan and one for Imran. Evan you mentioned that Android retention is up 20% quarter-on-quarter. Can you just give us some color on what’s driving that? And then you also said that engagement in the older cohorts and with – and with discover is up pretty big following the redesign.
So how does the engagement Snaps compare with younger cohorts versus the older cohorts? And then second question for Imran, we saw some news in the upfront that you guys have secured as much as $70 million in ad revenue for the winter Olympics.
So can you just talk about how much of that of flow through Snap and how that kind of triangulates with the comments about the first quarter? Thank you..
Thanks, Ross. Yeah, I think in my comments earlier I talked about a year-over-year increase in retention. We have been working very hard to provide more value to our users when they sign-up and one of the key ways that we do this is try to make sure that they have a lot of great friends ready for them.
So we rolled out quick out over this year, and that’s made a huge difference on making sure that folks who sign up, get the friends they need quickly. I can’t provide any detail on cohorts but we’re excited with the progress we have been making on Android..
So on the Olympic side, Ross, let me jump on that one. So we are very excited to have a special event like the winter Olympics. And we believe Snap, the community will really enjoy what we have there. We’re excited to be the biggest mobile partner there.
Obviously, it’s an extension of a success or strong overall partnership we have with NBCUniversal and it builds on the success that we had with the summer Olympics back in 2016. So as our business is growing, we look to these tentpole events as engagement drivers and when we do financial drivers.
And so our core business today is much bigger than it was back in the summer of 2016. Now we have been working with advertisers and our ad packages have sold well, so we do expect modest revenue tailwind in Q1.
But overall percentage revenue boost to our sales base we expect to be less than what it was a couple of years ago when we had a smaller business..
And our next question is from Stephen Ju with Credit Suisse. Please, go ahead..
Okay, thanks. Imran, I recall you were saying, I think it was two quarters ago that you’re looking to evangelize the platform and lowering advertisers or cheaper price inventory.
You have touched on this to some degree on the prepared remarks, but – around the Pixel, but how are the conversations going now? Do you still feel like you have to sell the benefits of advertising of Snap especially for the DR guys? Thanks..
Yes, I think, the conversation is going really well as evident by our Q4 result. And I think a couple of things happening.
Number one, we are really offering very attractive value to our advertisers on our platform given our size and scale and you are seeing that more and more advertisers are coming to our platform and number of advertisers and auction doubled in Q4 quarter-over-quarter.
The second thing is on a direct response side, we are seeing great success on app install and lead generation and we are aggressively moving into e-commerce customers with the launch of Pixel and early trend looks really good and we are really excited about that..
And our next question is from Justin Post with Merrill Lynch. Please go ahead..
Great, nice revenue quarter. A couple of questions for you. Maybe Imran, the ad impressions were up 575%.
Is that all just demand generated or did the company make a decision to open up more ad impressions this year? And how much – do you just feel like you have tremendous rooms still to grow there? And then maybe a question for Drew, you have on that a little bit.
But was there any just unusual item in the fourth quarter as far as revenues that we should be thinking about that that might not sustained into next year? Thank you..
Yeah, with 170 million – 187 million daily active users who are incredibly engaged. We have a lot of inventory on our platform and we think there are still a lot of room for us to grow..
So, and Justin – hey, it’s Drew. On the revenue side of the world, we did try to call out a couple of those in my comments. We are a brand business and we do believe that the brand business seasonally peaks in the fourth quarter. So that was something we wanted to highlight as you think about the early part of the year.
Also as you think about the early part of the year, our spectacles business was $8 million last year in the first quarter of 2017. We do not expect that business to annualize or even sequentially comp to where it has been..
And our next question is from Mark Mahaney with RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead..
I want to try to get at the question of the sustainability of two trends, the DAU trends and the revenue growth trends.
And I guess I would like to ask it in – in the first in the DAU trends in terms of the how far you think you are along in terms of kind of “fixing the Android of problems” or the crash where are the crash levels were versus where you have had them before? I know in the past you talked about having that all finalized by Q2 of this you.
Do you think you are already there? So is there any more you need to do with Android in order to get that experience like you wanted? And then on the revenue side, I guess the one thing I’d add there is it sounds like you’re already through all of the auctions – the transition to the auction process.
So I would think that this kind of growth rates that we’re seeing leaving aside seasonality is relatively sustainable.
But anything else you would want to do to caution us on extrapolating the growth from here other than the seasonality and the spectacles?.
So on the DAU side; obviously we talked a lot in 2017 about Android and how much we have focused on it. And today we have some of the lowest ever crash rates that we have seen, but we’re still going to be doing a lot of work to rebuild the Android application.
There are components of that in the updated discover functionality and it’s rolling out in the redesign and so that’s great to see. The frame dropping has gone away. The scroll performance is awesome and streaming is making huge difference for people who are watching content of our service.
So I think that’s a great step in the right direction, especially with the resign, but you will see a lot more this year and we have been chopping a lot of word on that for a long-time as you know..
It’s Drew here. Hey a couple of thoughts for you on the overall business, Mark. So in terms of the revenue growth drivers, we didn’t talk about the seasonality, we talked about the spectacles, spectacle as a smaller piece.
Overall, the way that you should think about the business is really that the engine that drove the growth in the fourth quarter will continue to drive our growth really is the option platform that’s really where things are heading. There is a smaller piece of our business on the creative tools side.
We will be transitioning that in the first half of the year as we transition that we do expect to see gains and impression offset by declines in prices, but really sort of as you are thinking about big picture ideas and where our business is going, what’s the business drivers are, it really is going to be Snap Ads and the auction for the foreseeable future..
And our next question is from Heath Terry with Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead..
Great, thanks. Evan, how do you experienced with the redesign impact in a way that you’re planning product development? Where and how has it impacted your priorities? And then Drew just a quick one.
Given the progress on cash burn, how should we be thinking about your trajectory there going forward?.
We decoupled the redesign from a lot of the feature development that we have been working on, so that’s continued and I am very excited about the product pipeline for this year. The redesign is really focused on three things. We want to make the app easier to use.
We want to bring your friends together and we want to elevate a lot of the great content that we have and discover. And so far I think we have accomplished all three and we have tried to be very deliberate. In the rollout, we have learned a lot as we have rolled it out. It's out now about 40 million folks and we’re excited on the progress there.
So we will be working on a lot of that throughout the year and for the years to come, but that’s decoupled from the feature development process internally..
And Heath on the working capital or just general of the cash burn of the business, obviously big picture cash is very important to us, liquidity is something that we look at all the time.
If you think about sort of the uses of cash for the business, we’re EBITDA negative and investments in business operations continue to be our number one capital deployment priority. Our second capital deployment priorities, M&A, it’s opportunistic as you know. So sometimes we do stuffs, sometimes we don’t.
I do think we can do a better job of thinking about cash versus stock mix as we do that. But I think we’re still in the M&A game and we will be periodically looking at deals.
I do think the big change we made between the third and fourth quarter was really we stopped buying back employee shares here in the fourth quarter and that was a big piece of what the change in cash burn was.
I also think we did a better job of managing our working capital within the balance sheet and that’s just the maturing business getting better than what it does. So, overall, it’s really going to be the investment in the business and the M&A our capital deployments and those are the primary uses of cash..
And our next question is from Lloyd Walmsley with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead..
Hey, guys. Congrats on the solid results. This is actually Matt chiming in on Lloyd’s behalf.
The question, two questions, really, one with the Android developments, could you talk about where you saw the engagement increase? Was it pretty uniform across your geographies or are there any differences to call out there? And two for any advertisers, who might have been with you that have been since left? What were the key challenges that they faced? And have those challenges been addressed whether that’s targeting ROIs like a measurability, maybe not finding the right demographic, any color there would be helpful..
So with the advertiser strike I think we've made tremendous progress in delivering things that advertisers are looking for. We made tremendous progress on app install side, tremendous problem – progress on lead generation side and we also launched Pixel.
And I think a lot of the advertisers, primary who were on the e-commerce segment are looking for Pixel to really understand how we are driving growth. And I think that's the one big area that we continue to invest. The other area is that we have continued to remain really focused to buying add on Snapchat absolutely easy.
And we did make a lot of progress with Snap publishers and we are going to continue to do so and that will also continue to drive growth. But overall, we are very happy with the progress we made and going to continue to do so. And in terms of Android geography, we saw improvement across the geographies.
So there’s no one specific geographic to point that out..
The next question is from Eric Sheridan with UBS. Please go ahead..
Thanks for taking the question. Maybe two on the advertising.
The way you guys break up the business in talking about it between managed, versus programmatic, to reserved, versus bided, is there any chance you can give us color about the skew in terms of percentage of revenue that tilts one way or the other? And also the differences in price between the two so we could get a better sense of where we are in the transition on the revenue base and on the pricing mix in the business? Thanks so much..
Yes with regards to breaking down revenue by channel, we don't do that. But I think one thing I believe Drew pointed out that programmatic was the fastest growing segment of the business as evident by the number of impression that is flowing through the programmatic business.
With regards to pricing, I think, we really focus here to drive return on investment for advertisers. If we drive more return on investment for advertisers that means more advertisers will come to our platform. We're just getting started, there are 26 million small businesses out there, we want to capture a big chunk of that.
So we are less focused on price, more focused on driving value and driving growth. But in general right even an advertiser wants to reserve a date that always have high price than bided pricing. So that's how usually it works..
And our next question is from John Blackledge with Cowen and Company. Please go ahead..
Great, thank you. So the user growth was better than expected. I'm just wondering if you have any color on engagement, time spent on the platform, and how you think about kind of the key engagement drivers in 2018? And then just a quick one on the total number of advertisers on the platform. Thank you..
I don't have any material updates for you on engagement, but I did see I yesterday Verizon releasing numbers about their customers’ usage during the Super Bowl. And I guess last year we were number three in terms of overall usage during the Super Bowl and this year we were number one.
So we’re pretty excited about that directionally, but no specific updates for you today..
In terms of the total number of advertisers on the platform, obviously it's a key accelerator for our business. We know when we get more competition on the auction we take it. So we’re aware that we can drive pricing over the medium turn.
We did double the number of advertisers on the platform, we're still a young business with a lot of room to grow, but we're excited by the progress in the quarter..
Your next question is from Douglas Anmuth with JPMorgan. Please go ahead..
Thanks for taking the question.
I have two first for Drew or Imran, can you just help us understand how your longstanding kind of existing advertisers are behaving in a reserved media world versus auction just how their behavior is shifting And then secondly, Evan you talked a couple times about removing friction, what are the opportunities that you're thinking about in 2018 to continue doing that? Thanks..
Hi, thanks Doug. I think if you look at the large advertisers, they have different buckets of budgets, right. So they have always on budget, they have activation budget surrounding some events like Super Bowl, they have new initiative budgets. And what we're trying to do is play into all of those buckets and trying to capture dollar.
So with regards to always on budget that's the money we are getting on to our auction platform, to our self-service platform. But then we also have this incredible ad unit tools like lenses and filters that’s really unique and no other platform has that at scale like us.
And you can see that large advertisers take advantage of those products or take advantage of our premium products like for shows and discover to surrounding some events or deliver some message. They want to do that to as part of their premium content strategy.
Like Super Bowl, I think, I don't know if you saw that, we had a couple of great lenses and that did really, really well. And we are really, really excited about that..
On the removing friction mandate over here, I think, one of the key things is all of the new processes we have around quality and performance that will continue to make a big difference for us and were obviously a big focus of last year.
But also we have some major architectural changes coming to both IOS and android, coming throughout the year and we're excited about the opportunities there..
And our next question is from Mark May with Citi. Please go ahead..
Thanks. I have two. I think the first for Drew and then the next one Evan. Getting back to the question a lot of people have asked around the outlook for Q1 revenue we can obviously kind of back out spectacle impact. And brand I guess is seasonal like you said, so it should be – the seasonality should have reflected in the year ago.
So I guess I'm just trying to understand coming off of a strong Q4 with accelerating trends the auction dynamics, et cetera that are benefiting you. Why would you – what is sort of driver of the “moderating growth” in Q1? It seems like you've got some nice tailwinds on a year-on-year basis, ex Spectacles, going into Q1.
And then for Evan there have been some other players, some other social apps in the space that have kind of admitted that some of the ways that their users are using their apps may not always be deemed good uses of time, right more around focusing going for more on quality versus quantity.
I wonder if that's something that you think is in any parts of SnapChat an issue and anything that you're sort of addressing from that perspective? Thanks..
So let me comment on the first question. So we did comment on the underlying drivers for the spike up that we did see in the fourth quarter. And we did share we’re thinking internally about the Q1 dynamics. The largest piece of our revenue for our business in Q4 remains brand sales. And we believe brand revenue seasonally peaks in Q4.
And so as the business now has more scale, we believe year-over-year growth rates are probably the most relevant way to think about our business. We think it neutralizes the brand seasonality and it's frankly our team thinks about managing its business.
So we're thinking about that a year-over-year growth rate and that's why I try to target that 74%, so you get a sense on that.
But what we did try to do was point out some of that underlying drivers, the seasonality, the change in some of the creative that we moved to self-serve and then a little bit which is a smaller piece of the business on the spectacle side. So we try to give you some thoughts.
Those are the big movers if you think about our business in the first quarter.
And on the product side from the beginning we've been really thoughtful about how we approach these issues, it's one of the reasons why we've never had public facing metrics around followers or likes and why we've always tried to control the distributes content very widely on our platform.
And I think if you look at the redesign the evolution with the redesign, what we're trying to say is that there's a really big difference between talking to your friends on the telephone and broadcasting on a TV channel.
And I think our society has noticed that difference for a really long time and that's why there's different regulations and rules around communicating with your friends and broadcasting media.
And so for us, as we evolve the product, I think this allows us to really reinforce the great things about our communications product, bring friends closer together and at the same time provide more distribution to really high quality content.
So I think we're trying to stay way ahead of the curve on this stuff and it’s the thing we care a lot about..
Our next question is from Jason Helfstein with Oppenheimer. Please go ahead..
Thanks, two questions. So you did share a good amount of learnings on the app redesign. Are you getting input from advertisers and agencies? So kind of how deep is the learnings going? And then it does seem like brand will be a lower percent of the mix going forward between brand, DR and then large versus small advertisers.
So if any thoughts about how to think about the mix of advertisers going forward and kind of the benefits of greater diversification, thanks..
Yes, we are taking a feedback from advertisers and advertisers and agencies, a perfect example of Promoted Stories. Agencies and advertisers always told us that they wanted a new way to tell their stories, and that's why we launched Promoted Stories and we're thrilled with the success we are seeing and really, really excited about the opportunity.
The second question was around mix shift between brand and DR. I think for the first time in Company’s history more than 50% of our revenue came from advertisers who were outside the Ad Age Top 100.
As we said there are 26 million or so large and small businesses out there and there's a tremendous opportunity to help those advertisers to be successful and they are looking for ways to reach new users and we can help them.
And so we really dedicated to focus – as we do that, you will see that the mix will change and that will also muted seasonality in the business hopefully in the long term..
And your next question is from Youssef Squali with SunTrust. Please go ahead..
All right. Two questions, please. Starting with Drew, on the cost side, can you shed some more light into the strength in the gross margin, components of that and more importantly, as we look into 2018, it looks like 2017 had a lot of noise to it from a gross margin side.
How should we be thinking about the seasonality on that line? And then Evan, GDPR requires changes to the consent recommendation is around kids 16 and under, I know, international is a relatively small percentage of the overall business.
But how do you envision this effect in Snap’s on boarding process and just any other potential fallout from GDPR or not? Thanks..
So let me speak to some of the wins that are happening on gross margin, you’re right. Gross margins have been expanding here and been expanding for a while, we did have a terrific quarter, gross margins went from 21% sequentially up to 36% and a similar expansion on a year-over-year basis.
Really it’s – we have a powerful model when we can get incremental sales here. And so if you think about the marginal cost to serve here, it’s not high. And so simply put, sales have been growing a lot faster than within our costs on a variable side, which has been terrific.
Our cost structure really on the variable side as infrastructure costs and rev share both of which were been heading in the right direction. Our infrastructure costs are down $0.72 last year to $0.70, we’re just doing an excellent job of executing on a multi-cloud strategy, we’re winning there.
And obviously, we’re taking the capital out of the business as we deal with so that’s really two wins that we’ve been executing on the infrastructure side. On the rev share side, as we continue to open up more owned inventory that those incremental sales dollars come without a rev share.
So that’s really been helping manage down the revenue share percentages, it was 14% of sales last year, now it’s 10% and we’ve seen good leverage on that all along. So really it’s a powerful combination of growing revenues and we’ve done a pretty good job of flattening the costs in marginal cost.
And so you’ve seen the expansion of the gross margin over the last six quarters, it’s been nice progress..
On the GDPR front something that we are ready for and we’ve been very thoughtful about how we approach privacy in our product. Obviously, things like the right to be forgotten are close to our heart. It's something that we have a very serious focus on..
Your next question is from Richard Greenfield with BTIG. Please go ahead..
Hi, thanks for taking the question. The first one for Evan. Evan, you were talking about kind of the trying to stay a step ahead of everyone else, when you think about the product.
And I think there’s been a lot of questions from investors about the kind of the rational for the redesign and how much of it was something you saw that you didn’t like and use your behavior or was it trying to meet advertiser demand? And it seems like you’re trying to portray as, this was more of nothing was wrong, we just believe we can be better.
I just want to – could you maybe just set the record straight to confirm that the rational driving the redesign. And then just a question for Imran and Drew.
You obviously exceeded Wall Street expectations for Q4, but as you think forward for a full year 2018, I think, if you look back to the IPO expectations were for roughly $2 billion of revenue in 2018. That’s now down to call it a $3 billion at least before today’s call and while I know you don’t give guidance.
Wondering how you feel about the level of consensus out there in terms of ability for the company to meet or exceed the way you did in Q4?.
Hey, Rich. We’re always trying to improve the product and we’re pretty relentless about it. We see here huge amount of opportunity both in the redesign, but also all the other stuff. That we are working on and obviously, it’s what we want to do. So we’re really excited about our work there..
In terms of the overall thoughts for the year, Rich, and look the Snap Ad sold through the auction that are going to continue to be our main revenue driver in 2018. The auction continues to be new for us, where there’s lots of optimizing going behind the scenes, every single day on pricing, on targeting et cetera.
But there are a series of new technologies, enablers, accelerators like the Pixel by targeting improvements, new products. But they should be accelerated for our business, but it’s difficult to predict when they’re going to be ready. And so as a result, our revenue visibility is really more in the near-term.
And so that’s why we shared some thoughts with you as it relates to the first quarter on the underlying drivers of the business. And so that’s the visibility that we have comfort with at this point. So that’s why we share those thoughts..
Your next question is from Brian Fitzgerald with Jefferies. Please go ahead..
Thanks. I think you guys got assist before maybe a couple quarters ago. I would think I’ll add with the strength that you’re seeing in self-serve and we thought about opening up the auction to third-party DSPs to increase the number of advertisers to get it’s more pricing point be there platform. Thanks..
Yes. I think when you open it up to third-party DSP providers that are always a risk that some of the user ideas will leak our platform, and I think we have really, really focused on user privacy. And ultimately that’s a very, very important part of it. So I don’t think we’re interested in doing that.
I think what’s really makes great that – effort anybody can logon to our platform and buy advertisement. And there are a lot of advertisers, who are looking to acquire new customers and we do our strength in the millennials market, right, 70% of 13 to 34 in U.S., UK, France on those markets are on our platform.
And so we’re really excited that what we can offer and I think that’s a great way to grow our business without compromising potential privacy issues..
Your next question is from John Egbert with Stifel. Please go ahead..
Thanks. I had a couple questions on maps. I was wondering how maps fit into the redesign. Are you seeing increased used of maps and/or stories you didn’t maps for the test users. That you’re tracking. Is it a priority to make maps usage more friction less and redesign.
And then on monetization on – it seems likes stories of reviewed from maps on the interface are still on monetize. There at least a very under monetized. Should we expect to see that change anytime soon or what type of criteria are you evaluating there? Thanks..
We’re really excited about maps and we have over 100 million monthly active users from Maps. And we'll be working on improving the frequency with which people use that product, mostly by trying to provide more value around using the maps experience. Today, it’s hard to know where to go, it’s hard to navigate interesting things that are happening.
And so as we improve the product, we will make it easier for you to find the most interesting things that happened on your map. So I think a lot of work to do there, of course, and we’re happy that we’re bubbling it up higher, obviously in the redesign. On monetization, we’re not currently monetizing maps and nothing to share on that front..
Your next question is from Ron Josey with JMP Securities. Please go ahead..
Great, thanks for taking the questions. I want to ask about international expansion, I think Imran and Evan you mentioned about working with carrier partners internationally, and then also selling ads through Snap Ads through Ad manager in newer markets like the Middle East.
So just wanted understand, if there’s maybe a little bit of change in strategy, in terms of focusing on the top ad markets globally or just looking at launching everywhere? And then in terms of moderating headcount, just really quick, if you could provide any sort of insight on reducing the friction or improving I think productivity gains – you mentioned back office employees declined, but is there any change in sales structure given the strength in the auction.
Thank you..
Yes. I think with as our business becoming more and more programmatic ourselves forces becoming a consultant to our clients. And I think that is very important, because I think, we have a still lot of work to do to educate the market. And really teach the market, how to create vertical video, audio that really works on mobile environment.
Many of our advertising partners are really waiting by creating great ad content and really understanding how to take advantage of our platform. And so we’re going to continue to invest on that and I think that’s a tremendous opportunity for us to capture market share by doing so.
With regards to international market, look I think international is a great opportunity more and more advertisers in the international market wants to use Snapchat to reach their audience and we continue to be aggressive drilling out of the market that we think we can generate profitable revenue growth..
As I going to say Ron as we’ve been building up to the 3,000 here, the north star really has been add to the front of house and leverage the back of the house as much as we can.
To your point, we saw that in the back of the house for the fourth quarter, but we have been able to move the mix front of house with engineering in sales, it’s now over 80% of the people at the company that’s by design. And so really those remain our strategic priorities. We are going to be focusing hiring to your point as we move forward.
But those remain high priorities for us..
This concludes our question-and-answer session as well as Snap Inc.’s fourth quarter and full year 2017 earnings conference call. Thank you for attending today’s session. You may now disconnect..