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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2024 - Q3
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Operator

Hello, at this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the NexPoint Real Estate Finance, Inc. Q3 2024 Earnings Conference Call. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise. After the speakers’ remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session.

[Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Kristen Thomas, Investor Relations. You may begin..

Kristen Thomas Director of Investor Relations

Thank you. Good day, everyone, and welcome to NexPoint Real Estate Finance conference call to review the company's results for the third quarter ended September 30, 2024.

On the call today are Brian Mitts, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer; Matt McGraner, Executive Vice President and Chief Investment Officer; and Paul Richards, Vice President, Originations and Investments. As a reminder, this call is being webcast through the company's website at nref.nexpoint.com.

Before we begin, I would like to remind everyone that this conference call contains forward-looking statements within the meaning of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995 that are based on management's current expectations, assumptions and beliefs.

Listeners should not place undue reliance on any forward-looking statements and are encouraged to review the company's annual report on Form 10-K and the company's other filings with the SEC for a more complete discussion of risks and other factors that could affect the forward-looking statements.

The statements made during this conference call speak only as of today's date and except as required by law, and does not undertake any obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements. This conference call also includes an analysis of non-GAAP financial measures.

For a more complete discussion of these non-GAAP financial measures, see the company's presentation that was filed earlier today. I would now like to turn the call over to Brian Mitts. Please go ahead, Brian..

Brian Mitts Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President of Finance, Secretary, Treasurer & Director

16% Texas, 20% Massachusetts, 8% California, 6% Florida, 6% Georgia and 5% Maryland with the remainder 4% across other markets, but heavily -- and all of our portfolio is heavily exposed to Sunbelt markets. The collateral in our portfolio of 77.5% stabilized, and -- with 60.2% loan-to-value and weighted average DSCR of 1.36 times.

We have $816 million of debt outstanding. Of this $324 million or 39.7% of short-term debt. Our weighted average cost of debt is 6.1% and has a weighted average maturity of 1.4 years. Our debt is collateralized by $1.1 billion of collateral with a weighted average maturity of 3.9 years. Our debt-to-equity ratio is 1.52 times.

Moving to guidance for the fourth quarter. We were guiding to earnings available for distribution of $0.79 per diluted share at the midpoint with a range of $0.75 [Technical Difficulty] We're guiding to -- cash available for distribution $0.50 per diluted share at the midpoint with a range of $0.45 on the low end and $0.55 on the high end.

So with that, let me turn it over to Matt. Matt, go ahead..

Paul Richards

Thanks, Brian. This is Paul Richards. I'm going to -- I'll go before Matt, but I appreciate it. The results for the third quarter demonstrated strong performance in all of our investment sectors.

We remain focused on areas where expertise [Technical Difficulty] we can effectively harness information to evaluate uncovered value throughout the entire capital structure with the goal of achieving superior risk-adjusted returns.

Our investment strategy remains centered on credit investments and assets that are either stable or nearing stabilization with an emphasis on meticulous underwriting, low leverage and a conservative debt structure. We prioritize lending to reputable sponsors to ensure consistent value for our shareholders.

In the third quarter, although conditions in the commercial real estate market continues to improve, they remain somewhat challenging. Nonetheless, we successfully deployed capital into accretive investments and leverage strong bids in the secondary bond market to recycle seasoned bonds into new opportunities.

The portfolio is geographically diverse with a strong preference for Sunbelt markets. Since the beginning of the first quarter, the company has been actively underwriting and deploying capital. An additional $28.8 million was funded on the Life Science senior loan, which carries an interest rate of SOFR plus 900 bps.

On the disposition and loan repayment front, the capital -- we capitalized on a strong bitter pool in the secondary bond market, selling a seasoned B-piece acquired during the depths of COVID at roughly 200 basis points tighter than the original purchase price.

This generated a robust gain, which was redeployed into newly originated and accretive deals. At the close of the quarter, we maintained a cautious stance on repo financing, keeping the leverage within a 63% LTV range.

We reduced our repo lines by approximately $40 million, lowering our overall debt to book value ratio to 1.52 times from over 2-point times in the first quarter. We continue to actively communicate with our repo lending partners discussing market conditions and the performance of our finance CMBS portfolio.

In summary, we continue to identify attract investment opportunities across our target markets and asset classes with a commitment to thorough evaluation aimed at enhancing shareholder value. We remain confident in the resilience of the residential sector, especially in the current interest rate environment.

Our investments in the multifamily and single-family segments are well positioned, supported by historical performance and a favorable rent versus own dynamic that provides long-term momentum for the sector. Additionally, we are highly optimistic about our investment pipeline in the Life Sciences and CDMO sector.

To finalize our prepared remarks, before we turn it over to questions, I'd like to turn it over to Matt McGraner..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Thank you, Paul. Yes, we're very pleased with the quarter. Credit quality remains attractive and stable, and we're also pleased with the increase in book value quarter-over-quarter, which is a great sign for the business. Absorption of record levels of multifamily supply continue to exceed our expectations and transaction activity is also picking up.

Leasing in the Life Sciences sector is also increasing with a particular strength in Q3 in the Kendall and LMA submarkets, which is a positive for our A life loan. Our storage business and exposure also had a nice quarter. The portfolio has recently achieved 90%-plus occupancy across the entirety of the portfolio.

A significant milestone for the portfolio as it moves into the stabilized operations and had an 11% increase year-over-year during the quarter in occupancy.

We also closed on a highly accretive SASB financing in early October that recapitalize all of the company's outstanding debt stack with a fixed rate execution and strong interest from the market at tighter pricing than anticipated. So instead of monetizing perhaps our storage assets in 2026, we could be in a position to monetize them in 2025.

Going forward, you'll likely see us to be more active in the multifamily sector in the next couple of quarters as we're underwriting approximately $250 million of opportunities for senior bridge loans, CMBS and even construction financing within the sector.

Finally, we're pleased with the capital options available to us as we fund this growth with where the balance sheet is and the success we're having with the Series B raise. We have multiple accretive avenues to fund growth, including A-note warehouses and even A-rated bond deal. To close, we're excited about these opportunities in the coming quarters.

I'm pleased with the company's continued stability and the opportunity to go on offense in this environment. As always, I want to thank the team for their hard work. And now we'd like to turn the call over to the operator for questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Crispin Love from Piper Sandler. Please go ahead..

Unidentified Analyst

This is [Indiscernible] on for Crispin Love. Just on the portfolio exposure shifts continuing, multifamily exposure decrease again while Life Sciences now makes up more than quarter of the portfolio. How do you expect this to progress? And would you expect stability with current exposures or continued increases in Life Sciences? Thank you..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah. I think the Life Science exposure is both -- because we deployed a number of opportunities over the last quarter or two, but also the paybacks or the capital that's coming back to us has come from the residential sector. So it's kind of like shrinking the overall pie size and probably skews it a little bit.

But as we sit here today, 1.5 times levered in the portfolio exposure to multifamily where it is. I would -- in residential, like I said in my prepared remarks, see that increasing over the next couple of quarters. But ultimately, we'd like to see Life Sciences be about quarter to third of the portfolio on a fully levered basis..

Unidentified Analyst

Appreciate it. And then just the last question for me.

On credit quality, LTVs and debt service coverage ratio still screen attractive to others in the industry, but do you see the debt service coverage ratios decrease in the quarter? Can you just dig into that a little deeper and what the key drivers were there?.

Paul Richards

Yeah, of course. So you have seen the DSCRs decrease minimally over the past few quarters. It's kind of twofold. One has to do with just some of the opportunities that we are in, such as the repositioning of the A life loan number one senior loan that's SOFR plus 900 that Matt's discussed.

That, of course, doesn't hold the DSCR right now because it's being leased up right now. And also, you've seen some slippage in the multi SFR, but not much, but those are the two main components of why I've seen a little bit of a drop-off in the DSCR.

But we don't -- in the future, we expect that to maintain or even provide even better coverage in the future..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

And just to add to Paul's comments, this is Matt. The property balance sheets in multifamily, we're starting to see throughout the CMBS and K deals and even our own portfolio stabilizing as the front end of the curve shifts down, caps and other hedges get less expensive.

And as you know, that the servicers and including especially the agencies have been mandating cash flow sweeps to escrow for replace the caps on the floating rate side.

So as those escrow mandates kind of shift and credit and liquidity become more available within multifamily and the broader commercial real estate sector as the Fed continues to ease, we expect this to only improve the coverage ratios..

Unidentified Analyst

Thanks for taking my question..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Jade Rahmani from KBW. Please go ahead..

Jade Rahmani

Thanks very much.

Do you have an update as to how book value is trending intra-quarter, given the spike in rates?.

Paul Richards

Sure, Jade. Yeah, there wasn't much movement. I would say, in our CMBS book, it's been flat to somewhat positive. It's pretty mute right now in terms of growth or a decline. We're sticking to where our current book value is, which we discussed at the end of Q3..

Jade Rahmani

Good to hear. Thanks a lot. In terms of the interest rate dynamics, it's capturing a lot of people by surprise. Everyone thought that lowers rates and then bond market cooperates, and we're not seeing that. In fact, multifamily starting to see some hiccups here and there.

For example, Fannie Mae in the 10-Q noted an uptick in delinquencies, quite a sizable uptick, in fact. And they booked a really large reserve, one third of it related to seniors housing. They did attribute all of the increase to floating rate loans.

So just wanted to see what your thoughts are as to credit performance in multifamily, if you're seeing any issues creep up and how you're thinking about the outlook?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, it's been a roller coaster over the last quarter or so. At the start of the quarter, everyone was feeling pretty good about life or better about life. And then with the recent run-up in yields on treasuries, it's -- we've seen some retrades and transaction market in a bit of a pause as we head into the election.

I think that's going to clear up some of it. But overall, the underlying dynamics within the multifamily sector, I can't speak to seniors housing because we're not -- that's not really a part of our business. But within multifamily, obviously, we're an owner of 30,000 units and can tell you that absorption continues to be really promising.

As we're sitting here in the eye of the supply storm today in Q3 and then Q4, I think our overall outlook on multifamily is increasingly positive, just given the way that the rents, NOIs and occupancy level demand held up during these challenging times, both in the capital market side but also in the supply wave.

But again, as we've stated, over the past year to the extent people have listened really in 2025 gets great and 2026 is even better on the residential side when landlords have increasing pricing power just due to the really lack of deliveries for 2026. It's going to be a pretty special time, I think..

Jade Rahmani

In terms of deals that you're looking at right now, how would you characterize competition in the debt space? It seems like there's a ton of capital on the sidelines looking to be active, but really a dearth of good deals, lots of refi activity and many of those have problems, but the acquisition market being quite muted.

How would you characterize the state of play and competition?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, I'd say I think you're alluding to, there's a number of players out there on debt funds. A lot of capital has been raised -- tons of capital have been raised on the debt fund side. And we are seeing a ton of competition particularly for stabilized deals.

But even in the multifamily sector, you're seeing a lot of groups bunch up around SOFR plus 250 to 300. And so that's tough to underwrite.

The opportunities that we're hitting on are mostly repeat sponsors that have a business plan that we understand as an equity owner, and we're able to kind of differentiate ourselves by our relationship and being there throughout the past few years for these guys and working through issues and just differentiating ourselves from a platform perspective based on relationships, I think, is the way we're winning deals.

And also on the CMBS side, we're getting increasingly involved in the HRR deal flow with the bigger banks and underwriters. And obviously, we continue to be a select sponsor with Freddie Mac and enjoy that relationship. So we like our opportunities to be selective. And the good news is for us, like we don't have to do anything.

We have a stable book value, we have a great credit quality, that's outearning our dividend coverage, and we can be opportunistic and selective and that's a good place to be in right now..

Jade Rahmani

Thanks a lot..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Thanks, Jade..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Stephen Laws from Raymond James. Please go ahead..

Stephen Laws

Hi, good morning. Congrats on last quarter and strong guidance for Q4. I appreciate the details you guys provide.

Want to touch base, I guess, first, Matt, to start, get an idea of how unfunded commitments are funding down? How much -- is that the number, the $29 million shown in the supplement, is that what was funded off your unfunded commitments? Or is that just a portion of it? And can you talk about if there's any growth on that unfunded side? And I guess not to get too long-winded.

But how do you think about raising capital through the Series B issuance? And is that really the capital that's going in to fund these commitments? Kind of how do you handle matching it up? How do you think about that?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah. The $29 million or $30 million was [A life] and that's a funded commitment that we have another call it, $100 million or $90 million to fund. The draw schedule is increasingly being accretive to us both in terms of timing and the activity. So with the Series B that's matching somewhat dollar for dollar on that asset.

To the extent we see are able to hit on a number of these other opportunities.

To go into your question, we had great meetings and are working on an A note facility with a couple of banks that really slices an AB note structure that particularly on the multifamily residential side and even the Life Sciences side that we could throw loans into and have a great net interest margin.

So we like that kind of as a second option to pair with the Series B.

And then going forward, if we have any other deals pop up, then we recently have been in discussions with the rating agencies, S&P, Fitch, Moody's, on kind of a high-yield bond deal given where the company's balance sheet is and how underlevered we are, we think we could take advantage of that as well.

So there's a number of accretive ways that we can fund growth. And this is kind of unique, I think, in the sector right now to be able to do that..

Stephen Laws

Yes.

What is the coupon on that Series B?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

9..

Stephen Laws

Okay. Pretty good. Clipping a pretty good 500 bps of spread as you raise capital there and deploy SOFR plus....

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, exactly..

Stephen Laws

So that's really accretive.

What is the cap? I mean, is there a limit on how much Series B can raise? Or what is the authorization there?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah. So we -- I think the SOFR is $400 million total, and we're -- we've raised about $100 million of that..

Stephen Laws

Great. Switching gears a little bit, and you could touch on this a little bit. But on the multifamily side, you mentioned kind of seeing an increase in pipeline or maybe resi investments.

Can you talk about what's in the pipeline? Are you looking at preferred equity investments? Are you looking at mezz loans? Are you looking at B pieces out of deals? Is it kind of a little bit of everything? Just curious kind of where you're seeing the best opportunities as you look to get more active on that resi investment pipeline?.

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Yeah, you bet. So we're working with a repeat sponsor on [Technical Difficulty] portfolio of -- it'd be a half purchase, half refinancing of the existing kind of garden-style portfolio in the Southwest and -- Arizona and Texas and Georgia. That's about $100 million. And then on the construction side, we're looking at a $75-ish million financing there.

And then the remainder is Freddie B, Freddie K. So it's kind of 175-75 of senior loans, CMBS and construction..

Stephen Laws

Fantastic. Appreciate the color this morning..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

Thanks, Stephen. That is all the questions that we have in the queue. So I would like to turn it back over to management for closing remarks..

Brian Mitts Chief Financial Officer, Executive Vice President of Finance, Secretary, Treasurer & Director

Yeah. Matt, Paul, if you guys have everything else, but -- sorry, go ahead..

Matt McGraner Executive Vice President & Chief Investment Officer

No. I appreciate everyone's time this morning and look forward to talking to you again next quarter..

Operator

That concludes today's conference. Have a pleasant day, everyone..

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