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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q4
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Operator

Greetings and welcome to Nine Energy Service Fourth Quarter and Year-End 2018 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] Please note this conference call is being recorded. I would now turn the conference over to your host Ms.

Heather Schmidt. Thank you. You may begin. .

Heather Schmidt Vice President of Strategic Development, Investor Relations & Marketing

Thank you. Good morning, everyone and welcome to the Nine Energy Service earnings conference call to discuss our results for the fourth quarter and full-year 2018. With me today are Ann Fox, President and Chief Executive Officer; and Clinton Roeder, Chief Financial Officer. We appreciate your participation.

Some of our comments today may include forward-looking statements reflecting Nine's views about future events. Forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, many of which are beyond our control. These risks and uncertainties can cause actual results to differ materially from our current expectations.

We advise listeners to review our earnings release and the risk factors discussed in our filings with the SEC. We undertake no obligation to revise or update publicly any forward-looking statements for any reason. Our comments today also include non-GAAP financial measures.

Additional details and a reconciliation to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measures are also included in our fourth quarter press release and can be found in the Investor Relations section of our Web site.

As a reminder, all financial and operational results for the full-year and fourth quarter are consolidated for Nine Frac Technology and Magnum and includes the legacy Nine business and only the last six days of October and full month November and December for Magnum, reflecting the close of the transaction on October 25, 2018.

All of Magnum's and Frac Technology's financial information from the acquisition date forward are reported under our Completion Solutions segment as part of our completion tool service line. I will now turn the call over to Ann Fox. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Heather. Good morning everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss our fourth quarter and full-year results for 2018, I want to start by talking about the year and highlight some of the team's many accomplishments. I am extremely proud of our team and the contributions that have come from every part of the organization.

This year we have grown through both profitable organic growth as well as with strategic M&A. We have and remain focused on driving value for our shareholders, customers and employees and our positioning Nine as a completions focused company that has coupled excellent conveyance service and execution at the well site with forward-leaning technology.

Nine has realized tremendous financial growth year-over-year growing revenue by approximately 52% to $827.2 million, adjusted EBITDA by over 140% to $141.1 million and adjusted consolidated EBITDA margin by over 600 basis points.

Every quarter this year, we saw sequential margin expansion, in Q1 of 2018, Nine's adjusted EBITDA margin was approximately 14% representing margin expansion of approximately 700 basis points into Q4 margins of approximately 21%. Our year-over-year incremental adjusted EBITDA margins were approximately 29%.

For 2018, we generated return on invested capital for the legacy Nine business of 12% and ROIC for Nine, Magnum and Frac Tech consolidated of 8%, Nine standalone ROIC outperform management's original annual target of 8%.

We have used this adjusted calculation to provide a better indicator of company performance to exclude the impairment and other one-time related expenses. Our 2018 cash flow from operations was $89.6 million, an increase of approximately 15 times over 2017.

In January, we completed our IPO and provided our shareholders and analysts with a 2018 organic growth plan including ROIC and adjusted EBITDA targets, both of which we exceeded this year for the legacy Nine business.

Additionally we have met or exceeded quarterly revenue and adjusted EBITDA guidance since coming public providing accurate and transparent insight around the company will remain a cornerstone of our investor approach moving forward.

We appreciate the support of our shareholders throughout the year and will remain focused on driving returns and being good stewards of capital as we continue life as a public company.

Organically our service lines performed exceptionally well, winning profitable market share with the majority of our service lines executing large activity and pricing growth.

Including Magnum and Frac Tech for the closing period year-over-year we completed approximately 51,000 more stages as a company an increase of approximately 86% and increased our market share of U.S. stages completed from approximately 11% in 2017 to approximately 16% in 2018.

In cementing, we increased our number of jobs completed by approximately 21%, increased pricing by approximately 18% and increased revenue by approximately 44% year-over-year.

Wireline stages completed increased by approximately 51%, pricing increased by approximately 23% and revenue increased by approximately 86% year-over-year, year-over-year completion tool stages increased by approximately 115% and revenue increased by approximately 100%.

Coiled tubing utilization increased by approximately 6%, while simultaneously increasing pricing by approximately 20% and revenue by approximately 34% year-over-year. Well service utilization decreased by approximately 4%, with pricing increasing by approximately 8% and revenue by approximately 5% year-over-year.

This year, we have also increased our stages per employee by approximately 14%. We took the majority of our wage inflation during the first half of the year and increased our headcount by approximately 28% year-over-year inclusive of Magnum and Frac Tech.

These accomplishments are a result of our incredible team and their ability to execute at the well site as well as design and deploy reliable and forward leaning down hole technology.

I had said throughout last year that I would be disappointed if we did not complete any M&A and our desire was to leverage more of our top-line towards completion tools which as a reminder required very little CapEx. During 2018, we successfully executed the strategy with the consummation of the Magnum and Frac Tech acquisition.

These partnerships excel Nine to a more balanced profile of completion tools and conveyance, while creating additional barriers to entry and differentiation. We are less labor intensive, less capital intensive and more free cash flow generative.

With both teams, we expanded our R&D capabilities to help ensure we are creating the tools of the future for our customers and staying ahead of industry trends. We have always said that dissolvable will play a significant role in the completions moving forward.

As we reduce intervention down hole, having a reliable dissolvable offering is imperative as we begin the early innings of adoption. Magnum provided us with a strong first mover advantage with a proven product and in a growing market.

We believe that dissolvables are 10% to 15% of the total stage count today and will be 35% to 50% of the total stage count in the next three years to five years, because the value proposition is so significant to the operator, with the proliferation of multi-well pad development, the time from spud to first sale has elongated and a 10,000 foot well of coiled tubing drill-out can take approximately three days to four days and a well service drill-out approximately six days to seven days.

The use of dissolvable plugs can eliminate this process saving operators four days per well or 24 days for a six-well pad.

Frac Tech, a Norwegian company provided us a reliable and superior casing flotation tool that allows operators to float casing to bottom, while additionally bringing long dated expertise and know-how to technology development and commercialization. We have continued to see adoption and market share gains with our Breakthru tool in both the U.S.

and Canada. The integration for both of these transactions is going well both operationally with cross-selling and the sharing of data as well as procedurally with system and platform implementations including ADP, NetSuite, and EHS Insight, our agency tracking software.

Now turning to Q4, we had a positive quarter from both a financial and operational perspective outperforming our expectations with our adjusted EBITDA margins.

Revenue met the midpoint of management's original guidance and we beat the midpoint of original adjusted EBITDA guidance by approximately 13% putting our adjusted EBITDA margin at approximately 21% for the quarter. Company revenue for the quarter was $229.4 million and approximate 5% increase over Q3.

Net loss was $77.3 million which includes impairments for our well services business and adjusted EBITDA was $48 million, an increase of approximately 25% quarter-over-quarter. During the fourth quarter of 2018, the company generated ROIC of 20% for the legacy Nine business and 13% for the Nine consolidated businesses.

Overall, we were extremely pleased with the execution this quarter and throughout 2018, I remain confident in the team we have in place and our ability to differentiate. I would like to now turn the call over to Clinton to walk through segment and other detailed financial information. .

Clinton Roeder

Thank you, Ann. As a reminder all financial information and operational metrics include the legacy Nine business and two months and six days of Magnum contribution, which is part of the Completion Solution segment.

In our Completion Solution segment fourth quarter 2018 revenue totaled $209 million an increase of approximately 6% compared to third quarter revenue. Fourth quarter 2018 adjusted gross profit was $55.1 million, an increase of approximately 11% over Q3.

During the fourth quarter of 2018 we completed 1,038 cementing jobs a decrease of approximately 3% versus the third quarter due to typical holiday shutdowns and budget exhaustion. The average blended revenue per job increased by approximately 3%. Cementing revenue for the quarter was $53.2 million which was flat quarter-over-quarter.

At the end of Q4, we received one single-pump unit bring our year- end unit count to 31. Delivery of the double-pump unit is now anticipated for Q1, but is included as part of the Q4 CapEx number. During the fourth quarter, we completed 10,524 wireline stages, a decrease of approximately 2%.

The average blended revenue per stage decreased approximately 2%. Wireline revenue for the quarter was $66.1 million, a decrease of approximately 4%. The decrease in wireline revenue was in line to slightly less than historical results and was most affected by activity declines in the northeast.

We did not add any growth capital wireline units during the quarter bringing our year-end count to 55. For completion tools, we completed 22,512 stages an increase of approximately 21%. Completion tool revenue was $45.5 million an increase by approximately 70%.

The large increase was due to the partial addition of Magnum and Frac Tech during the quarter. During the fourth quarter our coiled tubing days' work decreased by approximately 22% with the average blended day rate increasing by approximately 19%. Coiled tubing utilization during the quarter was 62%.

Coiled tubing revenue for the quarter was $44.6 million a decrease of approximately 7%. For the entire quarter we had a small diameter unit down for maintenance, we dropdown utilization while also inflating average day rates.

We did not add any additional coiled tubing units during the quarter bringing our year-end count to 16, 12 of which are large diameter units. In our production Solutions segment, fourth quarter 2018 revenue totaled $20.5 million, a decrease of approximately 6% compared to third quarter 2018.

Adjusted gross profit for the quarter was $2.8 million a decrease of approximately 10%. During the fourth quarter well services had utilization of 60%, a decrease of approximately 8%.

Total rig hours, for the quarter was 46,140 a decrease of approximately 7%, average revenue per rig hour during the fourth quarter was $444 an increase of approximately 1%. Revenue declines were due in large part to activity declines in the Rockies and Bakken regions with weather and holidays and were similar to historical Q4 declines.

During the quarter the company reported a net loss of $77.3 million or $2.78 per basic share, which includes $77.7 million related to the impairments associated with the Production Solutions segment. As a reminder the Production Solutions segment is approximately 10% of our total revenue and includes 107 workover rigs across the U.S.

while our team continues to outperform the competition, the impairment is a result of deteriorating well service market conditions due to lower commodity prices toward the end of fourth quarter coupled with deep [indiscernible] a dissolvable technology taking market share in the completion based drill out work, we are a completion focused company and well service remains a non-core asset that we will continue to evaluate.

Adjusted net income for the fourth quarter was $13.6 million or $0.49 adjusted basic earnings per share. Net loss for the full-year 2018 totaled $53 million or $2.17 for a basic share. For the Year-Ended December 31, 2008, adjusted net income was $40.6 million or $1.66 adjusted basic earnings per share.

The company reported selling general and administrative expenses of $22.7 million compared to $21.8 million for the third quarter, this increase was largely due to transaction expenses and added cost coming with the Magnum and Frac Tech acquisitions.

Depreciation and amortization expense in the fourth quarter was $18.2 million compared to $15.5 million in the third quarter due to the addition of Magnum and the amortization associated with that transaction.

The company recognized income tax extension of approximately $500,000 in the fourth quarter of 2018 and overall an income tax expense for the year of approximately $2.4 million, resulting in an effective tax rate of negative 4.7% for 2018.

The impact on pre-tax book income from the Q4 Production Solution impairment and Magnum transaction cost is the primary driver behind that negative effective tax rate for 2018. Our cash tax expense for 2018 was approximately $1.5 million.

Total capital expenditures were $9.6 million for the fourth quarter of which approximately 29% was maintenance CapEx. For the Year-Ended December 31, 2018, we reported total capital expenditures of $52.6 million of which approximately 22% was maintenance CapEx, approximately $4.2 million of 2018 capital expenditures will be delayed into 2019.

The average DSO for the fourth quarter was 62 days, which is flat to Q3 and averaged approximately 62 days for the full-year, with the Magnum transaction we also put a new capital structure in place with long dated maturities and enhanced financial flexibility.

This included $400 million of a five year senior unsecured note at an 8.75 rate along with a new $200 million five year ABL credit facility. We have always had a conservative approach to debt and still believe one-time net debt to EBITDA is the optimal leverage.

We remain comfortable with this new capital structure because of the cash generative and low capital nature of Magnum and Frac had and one of our priorities in 2019 will be deleveraging the company.

As of December 31, 2018 Nine's cash and cash equivalents were $63.6 million with $83.5 million of availability under our revolving credit facility, which is not yet included full credit for the Magnum acquisition, which will increase our liquidity profile. This results in a total liquidity position of $147.1 million as of December 31, 2018.

I will now turn it back to Ann to discuss the outlook for Q1 and 2019. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Clinton. Clearly the 2019 environment has shifted with the unanticipated decline in WTI at the end of 2018, the U.S. stage counts had been projected to be up as much as 14% in 2019 by research houses like Spears, which is now projected to be flat to slightly up with some projecting activity down as much as 10%.

Our customers were setting 2019 budgets working on RFQs and selecting service companies in a difficult context in conjunction with WTI decline of over 30% dipping below $45 in December.

This new revenue profile for operators led to an extreme focus on reducing capital budgets some over 30% and lowering costs causing most service providers to reduce price and work with customers to align with this new environment.

At Nine, we worked with our customers on pricing adjustments which were on average in the low double-digits across service lines, none of which were immune to pricing discounts.

We believe the majority if not all of these pricing concessions have been taken during Q1 of this year and we do not anticipate any incremental pricing declines unless we see another significant decline in commodity prices. The majority of our customers are larger more efficient operators.

So while we have seen some activity decline, this should not be as sharp as pricing concessions. We are continuing to work with our vendors to lower costs and protect some of the margin we realized in Q4.

But we are anticipating margin compression in Q1 and throughout 2019 as these pricing concessions are realized and we retained key personnel vital to Nine moving forward.

For Q1, we expect total revenue between $220 million and $230 million and adjusted EBITDA between $37 million and $41 million putting our adjusted EBITDA margin at the midpoint of the range at appropriately 17%. Assuming average WTI of $55 for 2019, Q1 will be a reasonable quarterly run rate for 2019.

We are not planning for a back half recovery in 2019, but we are also not planning on any significant declines in WTI.

Our capital allocation priorities for 2019 are our organic growth through market share gains and geographic expansion as well as de-levering the balance sheet, 2019 will be defined by organic growth which was always our plan even prior to the decline in WTI.

We closed two strategic acquisitions in 2018 and in 2019 we want to digest and properly integrate these teams.

We anticipate full-year 2019 capital expenditures to range from $60 million to $70 million including Greenfield expansion of our cementing division into the Midcontinent, approximately 70% to 75% of total capital expenditures will be related to growth CapEx and 25% to 30% maintenance CapEx.

All of the growth CapEx will be within the Completion Solutions segment. We anticipate with this capital plan to live within cash flows and to be very cash flow positive for 2019. Our 2019 CapEx plan has increased year-over-year due only to the Greenfield expansion of our cementing division into the MidCon basin.

We have talked a great deal about the technical barriers to entry in this business and we feel confident with our historical performance and customer relationship, we can move organically into what will be an important base in moving forward.

We have proven our ability to enter new markets in 2016, when we placed capital in the Delaware Basin for a cementing facility, which has enabled us to capture market share. We are extremely excited for this expansion and anticipate to be operational towards the end of the year. For unit additions, we anticipate the following.

In cementing, we will be receiving the double cement pumps that was part of our 2018 CapEx in Q1 and we are anticipating delivery of eight double-pumps in 2019 which obviously increased the units for expansion into MidCon. We will also be adding fixed wireline units in 2019.

In coil, we will not be adding any incremental units or completing any conversion. So our unit count will remain the same throughout the year. We are currently forecasting cash tax expense of approximately $3 million for the full-year.

Interest expense for 2019 will be approximately $37 million and D&A will be approximately $81 million approximately $61 million will be depreciation and $20 million of amortization. We have a 2019 ROIC target of 7%.

We anticipated the Magnum acquisition in the near-term being neutral to slightly dilutive to ROIC as we added debt to the balance sheet to finance the acquisition but with the capital light and cash generative nature of the business would be very accreting for the medium to long-term.

We anticipate the 2019 capital plan should be able to fund the majority of our 2020 growth needs, couple this with a larger portion of the top-line lever to completion tools and our CapEx as a percentage of revenue as anticipated to continue to decrease.

This along with activity growth projected to be between 10% to 20% in 2020 and we see a positive trajectory to create a significant gap between our WACC and ROIC in 2020 and beyond.

As a reminder, the legacy Nine business started 2018 with an ROIC of 3% in Q1 and finished the year with an ROIC of 20% in Q4, ROIC will continue to be the most important metric used for evaluating capital deployment and M&A and a significant portion of the bonus targets for executive compensation will continue to be directly tied to meeting this target.

Now, let's talk about cash flow generation despite margin compression in 2019 we do you anticipate generating significant free cash flow in 2019 with a key - free cash flow yield between 6% to 8% and a cash earnings per share between $4 to $5 which we define as cash flow from operations divided by diluted average share count.

Overall I am very positive about the strategy and the positioning of the company and I believe we have the right combination of technology and service. This strategy has enabled us to grow organically and build size and scale while simultaneously driving cash flow generation, higher margins despite a declining commodity price environment.

We will now open up the call for Q&A. .

Operator

Thank you. At this time, we'll be conducting a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Sean Meakim with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question. .

Sean Meakim

Thank you. Hey. Good morning. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi, Sean. .

Sean Meakim

Thank you for that detail. Given the backdrop of moderately lower spending in the lower 48 year-over-year and what I think it was a pretty balanced outlook that you gave in terms of the progression what you expect over the course of 2019.

Could you maybe talk to product service lines that have the greatest opportunity for incremental market share in 2019? How do you think about that playing into the outlook that you laid out?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure, I mean, I think the Nine team has demonstrated great capacity to gain incremental market share, obviously in both down markets as well as upmarket.

I think when we think about market share clearly we see a great capacity for our cement business that's obviously why we're growing organically and I think we're very well-positioned in the Permian Basin.

So from a competitive landscape perspective, we've really not seen a big change there and so we remain very excited about that business, I think when we think about our service lines and we think about 2019, I think it's important for the market to understand where we see the greatest drivers of pricing degradation as it relates to Q1 and what's most defensible or not and when we think about that as you think about Q1, the greatest driver of that pricing degradation has been the wireline business.

So when you think about the spending in these businesses and that's probably not a surprise to people but inside of the completion services business that has been the toughest service line from a pricing perspective coming into this quarter, cementing has really held up quite well as well as coiled tubing, that's not to say any service line is immune from pricing in this market.

I think you know there was kind of a confluence of events at the end of Q4 and it's really the way I think about is almost a trifecta of things, you had a $45 price slap us in the face which frankly I think shook all of us, operators and service companies and that was smack at the time that we were doing RFQ.

So had that been in July, I don't think the services and industry would have given up as much on the pricing front.

The second piece is you had investors standing on E&P's heads to reduce their capital spend, live within their cash flows and start thinking about cash on cash returns which I think that segment of the industry responded to and you saw a lot of cuts in those capital budgets and so I think you know that conflated a lot of issues for us and then third you had this underlying parent-child well interference with the offset child well potentially not being as productive and that's just a lurking issue underneath for the operators, so that the timing of all of that, I think resulted in including us yielding too much price and I think that does have an opportunity Sean to correct itself.

So I'm not worried about the service line's ability to constantly think about capturing incremental market share. What I'm very focused on right now is the timing of recapturing price, I don't mind my 17% margin, especially when I can generate this much cash flow but I sure would like to get that 400 basis points back. .

Sean Meakim

Got it, no I think that makes a lot of sense, that's very helpful, if you could talk about Magnum for a second. It sounds like your overall expectation for dissolvable adoption hasn't really changed that's not a surprise.

But maybe can you give us a more granularity how has customer uptake with low temperature last month plugs been the Permian and the Northeast any learnings thus far you've been able to look under the hood at Magnum as we get more direct customer interaction on the plugs, just curious to get a little more of that on the ground feedback that you got thus far?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure, it's a great question.

So I would say we thought this is an excellent team before we transacted and the only difference now is we know who they are and that's been excellent to watch the two teams and I'll touch on a couple of different things, when we think about the investment thesis for Magnum, it was really predicated on the adoption of dissolvable being between 35% to 50% over the next three to five years and I'll get to that in a second.

So I think the appetite for adoption is stronger than I had originally anticipated and the thesis around polymers versus metal based magnesium plugs is also a stronger than I had originally anticipated. So I think on both of those fronts we have more confidence. Certainly, we had anticipated for the market, a slow walk of dissolvables across U.S.

shale just as you experienced Sean with cast iron slip plugs and composites, it took a little while for new competitive entrants to really refine that technology and then also for the price point in that technology to come down and when those two variables crossed lines, you saw an absolute inflection point in the adoption rate, that's why we give you a three year to five year mark.

So as an industry and also as a company there are two points here we need to move the price point down for the operator and we need to increase the scope and range of the technology and what I mean by that is if you think about polymers for the low temperature environment, how do we increase the range of the technologies to your customizing left for the operator.

So if the operator frac yours well for a certain period of hours cools down that bottom hole temperature, we reduce the variability on the performance of that polymer, so that we can put it into a bunch of wellbores and take the customization out which takes out cost, that's what we're working on.

We think, we will have that standardization ready by the end of this year which means that we can walk into a stronger appetite that we're seeing from some of the super majors out in the Permian Basin to utilize dissolvables both for time and efficiency perspective as well as a safety perspective.

So originally, I had thought we would walk a hybrid wellbore with dissolvables at the toe of the well up to a certain portion of the well for a long period of time in U.S.

shale and I now realize that actually if we get the price point down sooner and dissolution more dependent across numerous variables, I think that becomes a full wellbore sooner than we had anticipated.

Sean Meakim

That's very interesting, thank you for that feedback. .

Operator

Our next question is from George O'Leary with Tudor Pickering Holt and Company. Please proceed. .

George O'Leary

Good morning, Ann. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning. .

George O'Leary

I appreciate the color thus far I heard the pricing commentary across business lines is particularly interesting, if I could peel back the onion there a little bit further.

On the wireline front we've heard mixed things from some of your peers or competitors out in the field with regards to the magnitude of pricing compression in various basins and given you have a pretty broad footprint in that business, I was curious if you could speak to maybe what you're seeing in the Permian versus the Northeast versus even Canada or some other markets like that, just curious what that - what the delta in pricing looks like across basins?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes I mean I think you know if you think about, it's a great question by the way, if you think about Canada, they never move up, the way the lower 48 did, so your compression there is just not going to be the same, because the activity there never popped way you know we had about 26%, 27% stage count increase from 2018 to 2017 so - 2017 to 2018.

So there it's a little bit more muted because it just never got off the ground and in the Northeast, I would say also a little bit more muted than in the Permian, I think the Permian you can think of about as where we're seeing the most extreme pricing degradation for sure and I think also there you've got parent-child well interference issues everywhere but there it can be pronounced and there you also have some big operators that are under a lot of pressure to deliver cash flow this year and we've seen some pretty deep CapEx capital budget cuts from some of those operators.

But you're in a little bit of a way George you are splitting hair between the Northeast and the Permian but for sure Canada is less of a decline than it was but only because of the nuance that they never got off the ground. .

George O'Leary

Okay, that's very helpful, and then the commentary around using work over rigs less frequently for completions work is both dissolvable and deep reach coil continue to take share or take share back from work over rigs.

Just I was interesting, just curious how far out are you guys now able to get into the lateral with deep reach coil, I realize that varies by basin but any kind of normalized metric you could - could provide kind of what bounds are you guys pushing on the deep reach coil side and then secondarily it goes along with that question, strategically how do you think about that that production or work over business going forward?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure so I'll take the last portion of your question first. Which is how do we think about the production business going forward? Well you just saw, we impaired it and we've been talking a long time with the market about the lack of differentiation in that space, it's saturated, no barrier to entry, non-core to the business.

So that may be an indicator of our focus going forward and we're certainly evaluating opportunities all the time and thinking about that business in its future.

As it relates to coil drill outs and the depth reach that is a very difficult question to answer and I'm happy to give you some general guidance on it but just remember the - the friction can be really different in these wellbores, the variables are so different but we generally think we have one of the best coil teams certainly in the lower 48 which then obviously means in the globe as a deep reach capable team, we've got a memory tool that's proprietary that works with the software system that's feeding a lot of data to us and I think it's fair to say that when you get beyond 20,000 feet of total measured depth, it's challenging, it's very challenging and it's going to really matter here you're coming down a vertical, where is the kick off point, it's going to matter out and far into New Mexico, you have a formation that doesn't like to hold what we call it a column of fluid.

So that formation it likes to suck up fluid and so as you're down there drilling you've got that drill bit drilling in your -- you've got weight behind it, will you need something to lubricate it and that circulation around that bit becomes more challenging in that geology.

So there's so many nuances, but I think it's very fair to say with operators pushing their total measured depth and their lateral length, this is certainly a service line that gets challenged and that's what originally gave rise to our thought behind the hybrid wellbore with dissolvables and composites was simply at first, the operator would look at it as de-risking coil, but when the operator stands back what they're going to realize is that we're fundamentally shifting the time from when they spud to being able to sell their product.

So if you think of some of these operators used to punch a hole in the ground and two months later they would have first sale of the product or they popped up well, well that can be six months now with these multi-well pads, so there's a two-pronged attack but the long-term value proposition for the dissolvable plug, make no mistake, it's time, absolutely time and time means return on investment for the operators not to mention the fact that one of the most dangerous things we do in the oil field is drill out plugs.

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George O'Leary

Awesome, Ann, I really appreciate the color. I'll turn it back over. .

Operator

Our next question is from Chase Newell [ph] with Bank of America. Please proceed with your question. .

Unidentified Analyst

Hey, good morning. I guess first question, if we can kind of talk about Magnum a little bit more, but maybe if we just think about 4Q.

Could you talk about sequential pro forma performance of Magnum just kind of maybe from a top-line and margin perspective not exact numbers just kind of how you saw that progressed in the fourth quarter?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes sure. So we're not putting the Magnum business out as part of our Completion Solutions segment and it falls into our completion tools division.

So if you remember prior to the transaction we had about 12% or so of the top-line with lever to completion tools we doubled up profile and one - on the financial side the merits for the transaction certainly were margin expansion quality of that EBITDA dollar.

So when you think about how much of that EBITDA dollar turns into cash for completion tools give or take it's close to 100%.

So we love the quality of that dollar and we love there - therefore the free cash flow generation both of which I think you see in our Q1 margins and again think back to the legacy Nine business, we've put a lot of points on that margin even in a deteriorating and declining price environment.

If you think about the cash EPS number, that I gave you which was for the year between $4 to $5, think about the share count roughly $30 million you guys can back into that free cash flow from operations, you've been given the CapEx number.

So you can start to see even if you hold activity flat you go 2019, 2020, 2021 and very quickly you get into a net debt zero position and that means the denominator of your average capital balance for ROIC goes down significantly while you're driving up the numerator.

So that entire financial prospect that was so compelling to us with completion tools is absolutely playing out and I think it's been more pronounced as we've seen price come down, but we've seen our ability to grow that cash EPS regardless year-over-year.

So that's very exciting to us and then obviously the strategic merits as I just talked about is that we think that this tool right about the time that we become net debt zero in net year three or so is going to have a very strong inflection point in the field.

So then your no PAT is really going to move again on a denominator that's been fundamentally shifted down. So we love this company, we love this acquisition and that's why we're not out there with a keen eye on M&A this year because we felt - we think we found that piece to the puzzle that we needed. .

Unidentified Analyst

Yes, understood and then if we look at 1Q you know we're now kind of obviously two months into the quarter.

Can you talk about your completion businesses and kind of you know from an activity standpoint what's started to get a better relative to the fourth quarter, what's kind have been more flattish and what and maybe if there's anything down kind of as we look at quarter to-date versus kind of the fourth quarter?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes I mean that's a good question. I think probably it's just the fact that you had some really stupendous growth in 2018.

As I said earlier I mean the stage count went up by 26%, 27% and so you know now you've got depending on what research you look at maybe 2% stage count increase this year flat some to down, so I think that just broadly affects our stage count driven businesses, I wouldn't say discriminate where we see discrimination is in the pricing not necessarily the activity.

But that being said keep in mind the activity profile for U.S. shale has shifted down this year and the reason that the company is not planning on a back half recovery is solely a view that we believe our E&P community does want to deliver on those lower capital plans for the investment community and deliver those cash flows.

That doesn't mean they've solved the decline curve in the shale well and it doesn't mean that 2020 can continue to show outsized production for lower spend.

So all of that is present in our mind, we're not saying a back half recovery couldn't happen but when you think about the Nine team, we're kind of like a bunch of little mice running around on the ground and every shadow to us is an eagle and that's just the way we think about planning a business in oil field service.

We're always thinking about worst case scenario. .

Unidentified Analyst

Well, good to hear on that.

One quick last one, the timing on the startup of the MidCon cementing business, so what's the timing on kind of getting some revenue associated with that business?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, we think towards the end of the year. So as you Greenfield these obviously costs a heck of a lot less to go in Greenfield than it does for M&A, which we've specifically explored for this region by the way.

But it's obviously timed to match the earnings to the deployment of the capital and so again I think you'd expect that revenue profile to start showing up at the end of the year, once we have our - that's assuming we get our equipment on time which is back end loaded. .

Unidentified Analyst

Okay. All right, very hopeful. Thanks Ann. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. .

Operator

Our next question is from J.B. Lowe with Citi. Please proceed with your question. .

J.B. Lowe

Hey, good morning. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning.

J.B. Lowe

Thanks for all the color, that's really helpful for us. But first I think the figure it opens up for a couple more detailed questions probably we were hoping. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

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J.B. Lowe

I just wanted to dig in a little bit more your comments on that you said that you thought that the full wellbore application of dissolvable was - you thought could happen sooner than you originally expected.

Can you just tell us a little bit about what kind of customer feedback you're getting that makes you think that?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes so again when you think generally as you are operating an OFS company, your biggest operators typically you know care the most about safety and so I mentioned the safety aspect of the drilled out and if you kind of walk back in the history of the U.S. oil patch, you'll find a lot of fatalities related to drilling out plugs.

So keep that in mind and then when you think about some of those big guys that have acreage in areas that I talked about that have difficulty holding a column of fluid that further complicates a coiled drill out.

Some of those operators who also want to continue to extend laterals and have multi well pads that elongates the time from spud to first sale, you can kind of get a picture of the folks that we think will be the primary drivers of the full wellbore adoption for dissolvables and I think the issue for us is we need to do two things for them.

We need to reduce the price of this product and then we need to increase the scope of the range for the low temperature polymer product.

So that we can put it down one well and then the offset well and then the other well and have a perfect dissolution rate and that is exactly what we're working on, because there's a number of variables as we're introducing as you know we introduced this technology about middle of the year last year and so those are things we're working on that we think we're going to have the nut cracked by the end of this year maybe if sooner but I would like the market to think about it by the end of the year and so my point there was I had originally thought we would crack that nut, we would work on price, but the operator would still be hesitant to adopt and I'm thinking that's not the case any longer.

So I'm thinking we could see full well bore proliferate for certain operators faster than I had originally anticipated and what that basically means J.B. is we are the bottleneck not the operator and I thought there were two bottlenecks before, the operator and ourselves. .

J.B. Lowe

Okay, great, that's helpful. Next question was just on given the puts and takes on the kind of 1Q being a good run rate going forward. Can you just talk about within your completion tool segment, I imagine that you're baking in some growth for at least that division in 2019.

So given that, 1Q is a good run rate, where would the other business lines all going to be declining a little bit or how - what's the growth rate you're kind of assuming in just the completion tool segment?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, so we said if we stick to this average $55 WTI and our customers live within their budget.

I think you can kind of bank on this because again we are working on the scope and range of our low temp product which is think about broadly and I know a heck of a lot about plugs but broadly for the market think about the Permian and the Northeast as cold formations, this is how I think about them as I like to simplify everything and those cold formations are - specifically the Permian is the primary driver of this dissolvable product growth and that's the issue that we're solving for right now on the range of that technology, that's where I think we'll be by the end of the year and so that's where I think you'll see a tremendous amount of growth for the company going forward irrespective of commodity prices, I would say the puts and takes on this plan are certainly we give too large of a concession to operators in Q4 because of the price decline that was occurring right at the time that we are agreeing on work.

So there is obviously an opportunity to ameliorate that as our operators get more comfortable in their belief in the forward strip but that takes a little bit of time.

So there is some potential upside there as well and as you know we have acquired a Casing Flotation Tool which is doing spectacularly well and we could see some great proliferation from that.

So I think there is a conservative plan and we are a company that really does not want to over promise, our investor base has been given way too many promises from this industry.

So I think if anything, this is a conservative plan, you can go to the bank with this plan and could there be upside? Sure there could be upside to this plan in many different ways, none of which we're pricing in. .

J.B. Lowe

All right, that's great Ann, thanks so much. .

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Marshall Adkins with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question. .

Marshall Adkins

Good morning, Ann.

And I -- can you hear me okay?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. Good morning. .

Marshall Adkins

Okay. I was having some trouble on phone earlier. I'm going to stick on this the 30% cut in capital budget, because you have given us a lot of color.

We all appreciate that but just to make sure I'm parsing the information correctly, it sounds like you're looking at revenues kind of across the board holding up better, but you're getting hit on pricing most in the wireline and the best pricing is holding up in cementing, but can you go through each of the completion services product lines of coiled tubing and completion, et cetera kind of go through just directionally for the year, given this 30% cut in capital budgets, which subsectors you see revenues kind of getting and pricing getting more versus less and I assume it matches up with the wireline and cement comments but just help us out on all segments.

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Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure so if we think about our Completions business, we've got obviously cementing, coiled tubing, completion tools and wireline. When you think about the walk in the quarters, as I said earlier we're not anticipating any significant or incremental pricing declines.

We think we've taken those pricing declines built anything there may be opportunity as the market gets certainty that in fact we are at a $55 to $58 barrel a range not a $45 to $50 a barrel range that we can walk into some better pricing there.

So I think, that's just broadly for all of the service lines Marshall and that doesn't each service line took pricing concessions and then, when you think about all the quarters you obviously have Q1 and Q4.

In Q1, you've got the start-up from January weather in Q4, you have sometimes budget exhaustion which may be exacerbated this year if the operators are going to be strict about their capital budget declines. But again I think for each service line, we don't suspect from this quarter going forward any incremental pricing declines.

So I do want to be clear about that if anything there could be upwards movement in pricing. When you think about activity, I think 2019 yes you're seeing some activity declines. But I think this first service for this company specifically the margin degradation is driven by pricing.

This is not a situation where you're stacking equipment on a fence line.

So that basis point drop is really directly attributed to pricing and again I'm being a little general of course there's some activity in there, but broadly speaking we think about this is pricing whereas in 2016 we had a utilization and a pricing problem at the same time, which was like a double whammy, so activity feels our service lines where this revenue is now, it feels reasonable like we don't have any information that suggests we take a leg down if that's your question.

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Marshall Adkins

Yes well you hit on that's exactly what I was trying to figure out.

The - have your customer conversations changed today versus three months ago or is it just too early to tell of the consequence the rebound in oil prices?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I think it's a little early to tell. I think personally there's a price that triggers everyone in the market.

So it depends what your view is on commodity prices, I think our operators and we certainly are very focused on being net exporters as a country and I think you know those - the pipe capacity is just a thing of the past, the differentials are nice now and I think you're going to see these operators chase that Brent pricing as we move into 2020 in 2021.

So I don't - I couldn't possibly imagine that ExxonMobil would spend all of their money and place their big bet here if they thought commodities were trapped here or if they thought there was a massive light sweet problem in the global market and they couldn't move their product.

So I think what keeps us super bullish on North American shale is that capability to export and that's precisely why we're in a different situation than our Canadian friends.

So we're pretty excited about the future and again like I said, when I walk to that cash flow figure through the next few years even if you just took the doomsday scenario and held this business flat right where it is, you're still going to find yourself in a net debt zero position before too long.

So we love that and we can still drive a great return on invested capital in the medium-term. So again, we don't see a flat market, we think people just haven't realized the new positioning for the U.S. in the global market as it relates to North American shale. .

Marshall Adkins

Right, last one, quick one for me.

We talked a lot about the dissolvable plugs and what you're doing on the technology there? Are there any other technology initiatives, maybe even in other groups, I'm not sure there will be a whole lot there, but I just thought I would ask any other things you are working on that we should be aware of?.

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, I'm glad you asked that question. We also did not realize when we did the transaction that there were components of IP filed by Magnum and components of IP that has been filed by Nine that when we strip those components, we could create a different way to attack the composite plug market.

So we're certainly working on that side of the house as well, I know we talk a lot about dissolvables, but we also anticipate having those products ready by the end of the year. Could we see deployment of those in Q4? Potentially but we are going to plan the business to have those deployed in 2020.

So that's been extremely exciting for us, I think there's also some material science again that has been matched with some IP on the Nine side, that's pretty exciting. These engineering groups are working together phenomenally well and again the cultural mesh here has been excellent.

So it's putting two great teams together and so there is a - some products you're going to see in 2020 that weren't on our radar previously. .

Marshall Adkins

Awesome. Thanks, Ann. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. .

Operator

We have reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the call back over to Ann for closing remarks. .

Ann Fox President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We want to thank you all for your participation in the call today as well as thank the investors and customers that have partnered with Nine throughout 2018. Moving forward, our entire team is focused on being good stewards of our investors' capital and driving returns as well as helping our customers lower their overall cost to complete.

Lastly I want to thank the team at Nine for an incredible 2018 and look forward to 2019, thank you. .

Operator

This concludes today's conference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation..

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