Good morning, and welcome to the International Seaways Fourth Quarter 2019 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in listen-only mode. [Operator Instructions] After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to James Small, General Counsel. Please go ahead. .

outlook for the crude and product tanker markets; changing oil trading patterns; forecast of world and regional economic activity and of demand for and production of oil and other petroleum products; the company's strategy; purchases and sales of vessels and other investments; anticipated financing transactions; expectations regarding revenues and expenses, including vessel, charter hire and G&A expenses; estimated bookings and TCE rates in the first quarter of 2020 or other periods; estimated capital expenditures in 2020 or other periods; projected scheduled drydock and off-hire days; the company's consideration of strategic alternatives; the company's ability to achieve its financing and other objectives; and other economic, political and regulatory developments around the world.

Any such forward-looking statements take into account various assumptions made by management, based on a number of factors, including management's experience and perception of historical trends, current conditions, expected and future developments and other factors that management believes are appropriate to consider in the circumstances.

Forward-looking statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and assumptions, many of which are beyond the company's control, which could cause actual results to differ materially from those implied or expressed by those statements.

Factors, risks and uncertainties that could cause International Seaways' actual results to differ from expectations include those described in its Annual Report on Form 10-K for 2019 and in other filings that we have made or in the future may make with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission.

Now with that out of the way, I would like to turn the call over to our President and Chief Executive Officer, Ms. Lois Zabrocky.

Lois?.

Thank you very much, James. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for joining International Seaways earnings call to discuss our fourth quarter and full year 2019 results. If you would, please turn to slide four. We review our fourth quarter highlights and our recent accomplishments.

As we kick off our fourth year as a publicly traded company, Seaway has maintained an unwavering commitment to enhancing our earnings power and our financial strength, unlocking value for our shareholders and implementing our disciplined and accretive capital allocation strategy.

The significant progress we have made in achieving each of these important objectives was evident in our strong 2019 and our year-to-date 2020 results. Moving to the first bullet. Seaways implemented important initiatives to optimize shareholder value.

Following our $600 million investment in modern vessels at the bottom of the cycle, the monetization of our non-core LNG joint venture for $123 million and our success reducing our cost of capital, we remain focused on effectively allocating capital throughout the tanker cycle.

Taking into consideration our strong cash and our liquidity position and our compelling long-term prospects, we have worked with our Board to shift our capital allocation priorities, beginning the return of capital to shareholders.

Our initiative, which will initially consist of a fixed quarterly dividend of $0.06 per share, also provides us the flexibility to continue to allocate capital to best serve our shareholders.

Based on our stock valuation relative to our NAV, we believe our $30 million share repurchase program currently provides an attractive opportunity for Seaways to further unlock value for shareholders, complementing the $0.06 quarterly dividend.

Going forward, we will continuously evaluate capital allocation decisions based upon where we are in the tanker cycle and where we believe we can create value. This includes dividends, share buybacks and vessel purchases. We intend to remain opportunistic as we did in the fourth quarter.

In the fourth quarter to further strengthen our earnings power, we purchased an LR1 the Seaways Guayaquil, fittingly named for a lighthouse in Ecuador. This ship will trade in our Panamax International joint venture with Flopec of Ecuador and Ultratank of Chile. This joint venture has consistently outperformed the market. Moving to the next bullet.

The notable success we have had in 2019 and 2020 year-to-date has enabled us to transform Seaways' capital structure and to ensure that we are ready for future value creation.

With both the prepayment of $110 million of high-cost debt in 2019 and the refinancing of $380 million of high-cost debt in January 2020, we lowered our margin on the refinanced debt by 350 basis points, reducing our annual interest expense by a total of $25 million.

The refinancing positioned us with one of the lowest leverage profiles in the industry. Our pro forma net loan to asset value of our conventional tanker fleet is 41% post refinancing.

With the closing of our new senior secured credit facilities, we are proud to have become the first publicly listed tanker company to include a sustainability-linked pricing mechanism in our new credit facilities.

International Seaways has always been committed to environmental initiatives and to minimizing risk of all forms of pollution and waste streams.

Through this sustainability-linked pricing mechanism, we have created an innovative partnership with our leading banking group and Sustainalytics, a leading firm in ESG and corporate governance and research that further advances our commitment to sustainability initiatives.

We will continue to focus on our ESG footprint and align our sustainability goals with our broad group of stakeholders. Moving to the final bullet, we are pleased to have returned to profitability in the fourth quarter. Excluding items related to asset sales and debt repayment, net income was $39 million or $1.32 per share.

Fourth quarter adjusted EBITDA was $72 million representing a year-over-year increase of $26 million, and a full year adjusted EBITDA of $165 million.

Our strong results in the fourth quarter highlight our fleet's earnings power and significant operating leverage enabling us to end the year with $150 million in cash and $200 million in total liquidity. Now turning to slide 5, we provide an update on demand.

As can be seen from the chart in the top right corner of the slide the coronavirus has negatively impacted oil demand, while China and the world seek to contain the coronavirus. In terms of Chinese crude throughput for 2020 in the first quarter, the IEA has cut its expectations by an estimated 1.1 million barrels per day.

As a result, global crude demand is now expected to temporarily decline by over 400,000 barrels per day in the first quarter. Lower demand and the negative sentiment around the coronavirus have contributed to rates coming off recent highs and resulted in what we believe to be a temporary pause in the tanker market recovery.

Even so we believe the increased rates our sizable fleet of product and crude tankers earned in the fourth quarter and through our book days at the beginning of the first quarter demonstrate our strong prospects in a robust market.

While timing is uncertain and we continue to closely monitor developments once the virus is contained oil demand is forecasted to rebound and support a strengthening rate environment. Other developments that bode well for increasing tanker rates, includes the China trade deal, which eliminates tariffs on U.S.

oil imports and forward brent trending toward contango resulting from lower demand and reduced oil prices. Contango may lead to an increase in demand for vessels for floating storage and we continue to monitor this development. Finally, we see IMO 2020 resulting in incremental tanker demand similar to what we experienced in the first half of January.

Our expectation remains that refiners will continue to produce more very low sulfur fuel wells and middle distillates, increasing overall crude volumes and seaborne transportation of petroleum products due to changes in trading patterns. On slide 6, we provide an oil supply update.

During the time, when OPEC continued to restrict production Western non-OPEC supply had increased. And as a result, global oil supply is unchanged on a year-over-year basis.

As highlighted on the chart at the bottom of the slide, the west has made up for OPEC production limits with oil demand growth being concentrated in Asia and oil supply growth being concentrated in the west. Importantly, this represents a positive for tonne-mile demand and is supportive of a strengthening rate environment.

Recent production that has come online also bodes well for increased ton-mile demand. For example, the first tanker shipments from new oil fields in Guyana took place in February on a Suezmax. Phase I production is expected to peak soon at 120,000 barrels per day and grow to 750,000 barrels per day by 2025.

In addition, Norway's new Johan Sverdrup oil field is up and running currently producing 350000 barrels of oil per day. Moving to slide 7, we take a look at ship supply. The overall tanker order book remains at historical lows with only 1 VLCC ordered to date in 2020.

We believe that year-to-date ordering has been tempered due to the uncertainty surrounding decarbonization and suitable propulsion systems. Current vessel supply also continues to be constrained driven by scrubber installations being extended and Chinese newbuilding delivery is facing delays due to the yards being understaffed.

Moving to the chart at the bottom right of the slide, the VLCC fleet continues to age with over 30% of the existing VLCC fleet now 15 years old.

As we have pointed out in the past, once vessels reach 15 years of age they are more expensive to operate with significant investments required to continue trading beyond 15 years and then every 2.5 years thereafter.

In addition once ships reach ballast water treatment deadlines even greater capital expenditures are required for the vessels to keep trading. Due to the recovering market in late 2019 and early 2020 scrapping activity has been limited. Though we believe the potential for scrapping is building based on the aging VLCC fleet.

With IMO 2020, low sulfur regulations going into effect, I wanted to provide a brief update on our successful transition. First, focusing on the ships burning very low sulfur fuels, prior proper planning has paid off. We have not faced any significant issues in our transition to the new fuel.

We continue to actively manage that program and ensure that we are booking our bunker orders well in advance to secure good quality supplies at competitive prices. For our scrubber program, we have three ships on the water trading, two are in the yard and five are in the queue.

The two in the yard have been impacted by coronavirus with reduced workforces and logistics challenges but these issues are now easing. Of the five remaining, we took an early proactive decision to perform additional voyages on three of them and postponed the installations by 60 days.

This avoids any additional ship delays as a result of waiting as the virus impacts are managed down. We expect that all 10 ships will be trading before the end of the second quarter. I'll now turn the call over to Jeff to provide additional details on our fourth quarter financial results. .

At December 31, 2019, we had $1.8 billion in assets, compared to $591 million of long-term debt. In addition, as mentioned we had a $50 million revolving credit facility that was undrawn as of December 31st. So now turning to slide 14.

As Lois mentioned earlier in January, we closed on a $390 million refinancing that will reduce annual interest expense by approximately $15 million by lowering the company's average interest rates on the refinance portion of the debt by 350 basis points or 3.5% and the overall average interest rates for the company by 200 basis points or 2%.

Specifically our new credit facilities consist of a five-year $300 million core facility, a five-year $40 million core revolver, of which $20 million has been drawn and a 2.5-year $50 million transition facility.

Borrowings on the core facility and the core revolver initially bear interest at LIBOR plus 260 basis points or 2.6% while borrowings on the transition facility bear interest at LIBOR plus 350. Margins on the two core facilities may adjust by 20 basis points based on whether the company meets certain leverage ratios.

The company currently anticipates the margin in these facilities will, therefore, decrease to 2.4% by the third quarter of 2020. The proceeds from the facilities were used to refinance $380 million of existing high cost secured and unsecured debt of the company and its subsidiaries.

This included repaying the company's 2017 term-loan facility and the senior secured credit agreement with ABN AMRO as well as repurchasing the company's outstanding 10.75% subordinated notes.

We very much appreciate the ongoing support of our leading banking group, which now includes seven major shipping banks and raising these attractive new credit facilities, which reflects our strong execution over the past three years and compelling long-term prospects.

As you can see at the bottom right of the slide, our total debt-to-capital now stands at 34% while our net loan-to-value stands at just 41%. Our liquidity position post-refinancing remains strong at approximately $130 million of cash and $20 million of undrawn revolver.

Essentially the refinancing spotted [ph] a $40 million deleveraging as $430 million of higher cost debt and available revolver was placed with $390 million of bank debt and revolver availability. Turning to slide 15 now.

I briefly like to highlight the sustainability-linked pricing mechanism included in the new loan facility, which Lois mentioned earlier on the call.

This is a first of its kind for a publicly listed tanker runner and has been certified by independent leading firm in the ESG and corporate governance research ensuring that it meets sustainability-linked own principles.

The adjustment in pricing will be linked to the carbon efficiency of the INSW fleet as it relates to CO2 emissions year-over-year such that it aligns with the International Maritime organization is 50% industry reduction target in greenhouse gas emissions by 2050.

The targeted emission reductions follow the trajectory outlined in the Poseidon Principles a, global framework used by financial institutions to assess the climate alignment of their ship finance portfolio. We are really pleased to be working with a bank group that supports those goals and ours at the same time.

If we meet the target for future years, we'll receive a modest discount or pay a modest increase if we do not. Turning to slide 16. We illustrate the strong earnings power of our fleet. In order to demonstrate the impact of a rising rate environment we presented two scenarios. The first is mid-cycle, by which I mean a 15-year average rate.

The second is the recent peak represented by 2015 average rates. You can see that based on the mid-cycle average rates, our current fleet would generate annualized adjusted EBITDA of $243 million and also $4.10 per share of EPS. If rates return to the 2015 levels that would represent $441 million of adjusted EBITDA and $10.88 of earnings per share.

I'd like to highlight that our past success implementing our fleet growth and monetization strategy has significantly enhanced our upside potential for capitalizing on a market recovery to product in crude tanker segment. We continue to maintain significant operating leverage.

And as a reminder, every $5,000 increase in spot rates in every vessel class would result in an increase of $72 million in cash flow, which also corresponds $2.46 in earnings per share per annum. Now, I'd like to turn the call back to Lois for her closing comments..

Thank you very much, Jeff. In summary, please turn to slide 18. Our 2019 and year-to-date 2020 results underscore the significant progress that we have made enhancing our earnings power and our financial strength unlocking value for shareholders in implementing our disciplined and accretive capital allocation strategy.

First, we continued to implement initiatives to optimize shareholder value, which over the past three years has included Seaways capitalizing on attractive asset values at the bottom of the cycle and monetizing a noncore asset to prepay debt and reduce our cost of capital with the goal of continuing to effectively allocate capital through the tanker cycle, we have once again shifted the priority of our disciplined capital allocation strategy and are pleased to have worked with our Board to establish a program to begin to return capital to shareholders.

We expect the program, which will initially consist of a fixed quarterly dividend of $0.06 per share to create long-term shareholder value while providing us the flexibility to continue to allocate capital to best serve shareholders.

In terms of attractable -- attractive opportunities in the near-term in addition to the dividend, we believe a $30 million share repurchase program can further unlock value for our shareholders based on our stock current valuation relative to NAV.

In future quarters, we will continue to evaluate how to best allocate capital balancing dividends, share buybacks and vessel purchases based on the existing market conditions. Second, we transformed our capital structure through a combination of paying down expensive debt and completing a $380 million refinancing.

This enabled us to reduce our cost of capital and ensured an appropriate capital structure for the future, while maintaining one of the lowest leverage profiles in the industry. Finally, our significant operating leverage and our earnings power were also evident in 2019.

We capitalized on the strong market in the fourth quarter, returning to profitability and ending the year with over $150 million in cash and $200 million in total liquidity.

While the tanker market recovery has paused due to the sentiment around the coronavirus, the increased rates our sizable fleet of products and crude tankers earned in the fourth quarter and at the beginning of the first quarter demonstrates Seaways strong prospects in a robust market.

As we progress throughout the year, we believe that supply and demand fundamentals will remain supportive of a strengthening market once the coronavirus has been contained. Importantly Seaways continues to be well-positioned to capitalize on the tanker market strong, long-term prospects.

Based on our sizable spot exposure, our operating leverage is substantial with every $5,000 per day increase in rates corresponding to $72 million in EBITDA and $0.62 per share in quarterly earnings. We will now open up the call to questions.

Operator?.

We will now begin the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] The first question comes from Ben Nolan with Stifel. Please go ahead..

Hey, good morning Lois, Jeff. So I have a couple -- or maybe actually three. So the first is just from a capital structure perspective, I think it's fantastic that you guys have been able to pay down the debt that you have and are now substantially less levered.

Do you have a target in mind? I mean, is this -- you're lower than average, but you'd argue that maybe the group was higher than it needed to be.

Is there a sweet spot for you?.

Hey, morning Ben. We've often said that our targeted leverage that we allow ourselves to go up to, which we did during the period when we were buying vessels was around the area of 50% net loan-to-value. So, obviously, we're below that. We don't have a set target to get down to.

We just like the idea of allocating capital to deleverage first, before we turn as we have now to beginning to return capital to shareholders. We have with this new -- I guess importantly I'd say with this new balance sheet a debt that has naturally more amortization built into it.

So we'll be naturally deleveraging at a pretty healthy clip about equal to depreciation, which I think is really good. So I think we're meeting deleveraging goals. And so we don't feel the need to push through more than that. But one of the other things I'd say is that the one we said about deleveraging as optionality.

If there was a really great ship purchase or something like that we have -- by being lower than the peers we have the option to temporary lever up to allocate capital that way if that kind of opportunity presents itself..

Right, great. And then my second is sort of relates to the market but just getting a sense of what you're seeing and I'll cram them together. The first is are you seeing any changes as it relates to this NAV sanctioning stuff? And then the second is, I believe that the heavy fuel oil carriage ban went into place on Sunday if I'm not mistaken.

It's, obviously, just a few days in but has there been any changes as it relates to bunkering or fueling or anything that you're seeing as a function of that carriage ban in addition to the IMO 2020 sanction for -- implementation at the beginning?.

Ben, I would take the carriage ban question first. For our fleet we're in a good position. So it's really not affecting us, but we are seeing in the bunker markets. There are some vessels that have high sulfur fuel oil onboard that may need to lighter that off.

And that is something that is -- I don't think predominant in the market, but there are a few individual ships that are experiencing those issues. And then what was your other question? I'm sorry..

About relates to NAV, Venezuela.

Yes. We're starting to see India came out and I believe the majority of those barrels were being moved from Venezuela to India. And India is now winding down the over 300,000 barrels a day that they were receiving from Venezuela. So we see that that's going to cause a few vessels to the idle that have been engaged in that trade.

And we should see India start to source barrels from other areas Brazil, other areas in the world as opposed to Venezuela..

Okay. Great. Appreciate it. Thanks a lot..

The next question comes from Randy Giveans with Jefferies. Please go ahead..

Hey, howdy, Lois, Jeff, Derek.

How are you all?.

Good.

How are you?.

Good. It's nice to see the newly instituted dividend, so congrats on that.

But looking at that, how did you determine that dividend amount of I guess $0.06 a share per quarter equates to about $7 million a year coincidentally matches the 10-year treasury yield of 1.1% here? And then as you mentioned with your balance sheet and I guess $130 million in pro forma cash, shares trading at a massive discount to NAV, do you expect share repurchases to be meaningful in the near term? Or is it going to be pretty conservative with coronavirus and whatnot?.

So I'll start Randy and I'll let Jeff finish it. Essentially the $0.06 per quarter, we feel is long term very sustainable and we thought a lot about averages and what the market looks like out there. And then on top of that I will let Jeff talk about it..

Yeah. I mean, we definitely had -- look at this for a while Randy well before any effects of the coronavirus, et cetera. But additionally when that came in we said that's just actually a good test case. We're comfortable with where our balance sheet is where our breakevens are. A number like this is sustainable.

And you might say, it's small, but thank you. I would -- this is something we thought about it. It wasn't that the 10-year ago -- a month ago, but it is running around that. It's not that far off of the S&P 500 or what the Russell 2000 pays. It's in this day and age a number that is helpful to an investor to have some return.

But we feel that, as I said in my comments that where our shares are traded today yes we find our share price to be a very compelling acquisition. So I think we're saying, we have a $30 million share repurchase program in place. We have for a while.

I will also note we're super pleased that the steps we've taken going back to selling the LNG, which the joint venture was going to enable us to get complete the refinancing of our balance sheet in a way, they're really happy with gives us flexibility to approach this kind of returning cash to shareholders in different ways.

So I think you see the fixed part and you're likely to see us at these prices to be actively involved with using our share repurchase program..

Great. Yeah, I think great use of cash there. Now digging deeper into the coronavirus. It's one of the few tanker owners with exposure to China, I guess, in three different ways.

Can you give further color on crude imports into China currently products exports out of China and then the ongoing delays for scrubber retrofits in the Chinese yards?.

Yeah. I’ll shift this a bit. So that's very comprehensive Randy.

So the first part of the equation when we look at the VLCC fleet and what the liftings have been, the fixtures have been pretty consistent, but we have seen vessels get revised orders where a vessel perhaps was originally chartered with the intention to discharge China given revised discharged orders for India.

We've seen vessels with discharge orders for China then get revised orders for storage off of Singapore. So it is a very dynamic situation. And we are seeing fewer barrels actually discharging into China, but the market is still lifting the cargoes and you're observing ships with alternate discharge ports.

As far as products coming out of China, because the refineries are definitely running at reduced pace, you're seeing fewer product exports out of China at this time. And then finally on the scrubber front, it is -- the coronavirus has definitely impacted scrubber installations for ourselves particularly on the two vessels that are in the yards.

We are seeing workers being repatriated to the yards and the teams working through this, so that progress is being made on our vessels that we have there. But we have definitely been impacted by that on the VLCCs.

And then the final point that I would make is that the these are the category that has been most impacted, and I would say the most resilient part of the fleet has been Aframaxes, Panamaxes and MRs where we are still seeing in the second half of the first quarter quite strong rates being posted..

Got it. Okay. Comprehensive question with an even more comprehensive answer, nicely done. That’s it for me. Thanks again..

Thanks, Randy..

Thanks, Randy..

Our next question comes from Omar Nokta with Clarksons Platou Securities. Please go ahead..

Thank you. Hi, Lois and Jeff. Just had a couple of questions. Maybe first just wanted to get a sense of the cash position, the liquidity position. You ended the year with $89 million of cash, but there's also the $60 million of restricted cash.

Jeff apologies if you already addressed this on the call, but was any of that restricted cash made available as part of the refinance?.

Hey, Omar, yes, absolutely. We mentioned a large part of what had been listed -- or what is listed on the line as restricted cash flow. The go away about $43 million worth of the total that's associated with the term loan B and there is no longer a term loan B. So the restrictions associated with it naturally go away.

So and we did give guidance on the call of what the balance sheet look like post refinancing which was profile of $130 million of cash and $20 million of undrawn revolver. So a little less liquidity that's because the refinancing was itself deleveraging transaction. But quite a lot less restricted cash in that amount..

Okay. Thanks for that. That's good.

And then also just maybe for the sales of the two Aframaxes, it wasn't clear in the press release, but presumably the first one are those both 1Q events those proceeds do you think?.

Omar, hey it's Derek Solon speaking. The first Aframax that we sold that was delivered last month. And then we expect the brand to deliver this month so all within Q1..

Got it. Thank you. And then also sorry just wanted to double check. Lois, you mentioned on the call your scrubber update. And just want to say if what I'm saying is correct. The 10 VLCCs are in the program, two are in the yards currently, three have completed, five are in the queue and the plan is for basically all 10 to be trading by midyear.

Is that correct?.

That's correct. And when we say in the queue, those vessels are still actively trading and then we'll cycle into the yards..

Okay. Got it. And sorry to keep going, but maybe just one more question and just kind of thinking about the Panamax business you guys have is obviously a niche market you're operating in. And clearly, the $40,000 a day you reported for thus far into the first quarter is well above what we're seeing whether it's for an LR1 or a Panamax trading dirty.

Can you maybe just give -- you mentioned it briefly in the call, but could you just maybe give a perspective of how those ships are trading? And then also you've invested into a new LR1 that's going to trade there are there other opportunities to acquire more ships and put them into that pool? Thank you..

No absolutely, that joint venture is trading largely in north and South America and back and forth between the Panama Canal. We did specifically buy the Seaways Guayaquil for that trade. It is a little bit of an eco-balance there.

It is not a trade that we like to inundate with too many vessels, so we're careful on bringing ships in, but it is definitely really the highest earning place that you can put of Panamax or LR1 into the market and it's something that we have really enjoyed with Flopec and Ultragas..

Okay. All right. Got it. Thanks Lois for that color and thanks again..

Thanks, Omar..

Thank you..

Our next question comes from Greg Lewis with BTIG. Please go ahead..

Thank you and good morning. Just kind of -- I had a question about capital allocation, but I just kind of wanted to ask it a little different. And I guess picking a piggybacking on Omar's comments about potential opportunities in the market and clearly I think we all know that the stock is trading at a discount to NAV.

You have the buyback out in the market.

Lois just curious around your comments, how we should think about the company trying to balance the ability to be buying back stock versus allocating that capital to ships when your stock is at a discount to NAV, right? I mean, is that something that goes into the equation when you're thinking about whether it's time to deploy capital on new vessels? Just kind of curious any color you can provide around that..

Absolutely. We look at presently as jeff said and I would reiterate that the discount that our shares are trading at really impacted by the risk off in the stock market for shipping -- tanker shipping stocks to be outright the absolute best value or best place to put our cash.

We absolutely consider every of our capital when we are developing the capital allocation priorities. So I would say that is priority one at the moment..

And Greg, I'd just stress that, as we all have seen in the last two months things change very quickly, with respect to share price, sentiment, asset value.

So the important thing is to be nimble and be able and flexible, because of where we used to be able to allocate the capital to where the best return appears which changes in between these say quarterly conference calls, right? So you just have to be ready for whatever is thrown at you..

We like that idea of being actively responsive to the market as opposed to being completely formulated..

Perfect. No absolutely, but volatile stock market, volatile asset prices as well. And just one more question, just because it kind of happened. And I think you've touched on a little bit throughout the call.

But clearly, over the last couple of weeks VLCC rates have stabilized and pushed higher, I'm just kind of curious lowest any thoughts around that? Was it just too far too low? Just kind of curious – and hey V rates have doubled but when you double from $15,000 to $30,000 it's maybe not as impressive.

But nevertheless VLCC rates have doubled over the last couple of weeks.

So just kind of curious on any color you can provide around that?.

Well, when we have our in-depth conversations with the traders on the desk. Cargo is still moving. The liftings are still happening. The Cosco fleet is going to work. The 25, 26 vessels are now being implemented back into the fleet.

We're still seeing a number of vessels still around 24 VLCCs off of Singapore that have varying modes of either high sulfur fuel oil, very low sulfur fuel all different grades of bunkers. So as the year progresses, we'll see if that becomes part of the logistical chain. So when you really look at the whole balance barrels are moving on the water.

And yes these found their bottom and then came up a little bit. And I would just note that, rates year-over-year are better now than they were last year. So I really think a little bit of temperance here on the – I know that everybody in the world is reeling from the coronavirus.

But quite frankly, I think that the market is a little bit more resilient than what the share price sell off has given it credit for..

Lois, when you say your comment before about the other sectors really hanging in there shows the tightness of the market overall. So you saw a little drop in demand for China naturally, but that's returning as you said and the other sectors really have been pretty good..

I mean, the U.S. Gulf is pushing out 3.5 million barrels 3.6 million barrels a day and a lot of that is going on Afras and Suezmaxes at the moment and that has kept those sectors are pretty resilient..

Perfect. Thank you very much for the time everybody..

Thank you..

Thanks, Greg..

Our next question comes from Liam Burke with B. Riley FBR. Please go ahead..

Thank you. Good morning, Lois. Good morning, Jeff..

Good morning..

Lois on the VLCCS you mentioned scrapping being a major push in terms of keeping capacity low.

Would you anticipate any change in that if secondhand rates hold up at these levels here?.

I would say that, right now, we have seen precious little scrapping year-to-date. But what we really kind of emphasize is that age – that fleet is aging in there and bottlenecking. So when you see these rates that are depressed, and if a modern V is earning 25 then an older V will be earning substantively less.

And that looks like it will persist for a period of time then we would see some scrapping that would then cause a rebound. But right now, we haven't seen very – I don't know, if we've been seeing a yet one – we've seen one VLCC scrapped in 2020.

But as people come up against the ballast water and competing with scrubber-fitted VLCCs and the older less efficient units we may see more pressure on those older units..

Great. And on OpEx, you guided towards flat year-over-year OpEx per vessel.

Do you have enough levers to maintain that kind of discipline on the expense side?.

Absolutely. And our team is working with B group and digging into all of our cost category in 2020. So we do feel pretty confident about holding those levels..

Great. Thank you, Lois..

Thank you..

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Lois Zabrocky, CEO for any closing remarks..

Thank you all very much for joining the call. We're excited to implement our sustainable $0.06 dividend per quarter, which will be supplemented by opportunistic additional capital allocation. Thank you very much..

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..