Good afternoon. My name is Chris, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I'd like to welcome everyone to the First Commonwealth Financial Corporation Q3 2022 Earnings Conference Call and Webcast. All lines have been placed on mute to prevent any background noise.

After the speakers' remarks, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator instructions] Thank you. Ryan Thomas, Vice President of Finance and Investor Relations you may begin. .

Thank you, Chris and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us today to discuss First Commonwealth Financial Corporation's third quarter financial results.

Participating on today's call will be Mike Price, President and CEO; Jim Reske, Chief Financial Officer; Jane Grebenc, Bank President and Chief Revenue Officer; and Brian Karrip, our Chief Credit Officer.

As a reminder, a copy of yesterday's earnings release can be accessed by logging on to fcbanking.com and selecting the Investor Relations link at the top of the page. We've also included a slide presentation on our Investor Relations website with supplemental final information that will be referenced during today's call.

Before we begin, I need to caution listeners that this call will contain forward-looking statements. Please refer to our forward-looking statements disclaimer on page 3 of the slide presentation for a description of risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements.

Today's call will also include non-GAAP financial measures. Non-GAAP financial measures should be viewed in addition to and not as an alternative for our reported results prepared in accordance with GAAP. Reconciliation of these measures can be found in the appendix of today's slide presentation. And with that, I will turn the call over to Mike. .

first improve and grow our lending depository and fee businesses in each region of our company. Second, increase digital relevance. Third, maintain operating leverage. Fourth, strengthening our culture leadership and talent and fifth improve brand awareness. For now, I'll just focus on one of those themes increasing digital relevance.

We continue to be pleased with the adoption of our digital banking platforms. In total for the quarter, we experienced an 11.5% annualized increase in active mobile users. Importantly our customers continue to show high engagement with our digital tools with average logins per user per day at 1.07x, that's year-to-date which is up 12% year-over-year.

With this strong use of the platform, we continue to make investments to bring more features to our customers. The Centric acquisition is proceeding well in large part due to good dialogue between the leadership teams of both organizations. We still intend to close the transaction on January one as planned subject to pending regulatory approvals.

Finally, we are pleased to see that First Commonwealth earned the designation as the number one SBA lender in Western PA and number two in Pennsylvania. With that I'll turn it over to Jim Reske our CFO. .

Thanks Mike. As Mike mentioned, the combination of 13.3% annualized loan growth and 38 basis points of margin expansion produced strong financial results for the quarter. As usual, I'll try to provide some helpful color on our earnings trajectory.

The margin is benefiting from improved loan yields, combined with deposit costs that have remained essentially flat. We had the advantage of coming into this cycle with a cost of deposits low enough to place us in the 90th percentile of our industry and our cumulative deposit beta in this cycle to date has been effectively zero.

Our cost of interest-bearing demand and savings deposits was seven basis points in the third quarter which is exactly the same as it was in the third quarter a year ago. Our total cost of deposits which includes the noninterest-bearing deposits that form roughly 1/3 of our deposit base was 5 basis points for the third quarter.

That's up from four basis points last quarter, but it's actually down from six basis points a year ago. We do expect deposit betas to change however as we witness deposit competition heat up in our markets steadily over the course of the third quarter.

We have been using a 25% deposit beta assumption based on our historical experience, but a refresh of that analysis leads us to expect deposit betas of 20% going forward both for rate increases from here on out and cumulatively through the cycle.

So assuming a beta in the fourth quarter of 20% and a Fed funds rate of roughly 4.5% by year-end we would expect the NIM to expand by at least 20 basis points in the fourth quarter. The NIM is quite sensitive to the beta assumption.

If for example the beta were to come in at just 10% of fourth quarter rate hike that will result in about 10 basis points of upside to the NIM projection I just gave you. We'll update 2023 NIM guidance going forward to reflect the Centric acquisition once we receive regulatory approvals.

Expenses were elevated in the third quarter compared to last quarter for several reasons. Some things represented normal quarterly volatility. For example, hospitalization expense was up by about $0.5 million after being well contained all year. Other items represent the impact of inflationary pressures and are likely here to stay.

For example, salaries were up by about $0.5 million as we filled open positions and work to improve employee retention rates. So, other items reflect increased activity and long-term investments in the company.

This would include roughly another $0.5 million for incentive accruals that were adjusted upwards in recognition of higher loan production in the third quarter and improved performance, and the continued build-out of our equipment finance business.

And finally, there were about $800,000 in one-time expenses that we feel are not part of our normal run rate.

We had one-time technology expenses in the third quarter of about $0.5 million, related to a conversion of our credit card system along with costs associated with the cancellation of certain IT contracts and a reconfiguration of our telephone service.

There was also about $325,000 in expenses that we don't expect to be ongoing for facilities projects, the largest of which was related to some flood damage at one of our branches.

In light of third quarter results, however, we are updating our previous non-interest expense guidance of $56 million to $57 million per quarter to $58 million to $59 million per quarter, but we'll obviously update guidance for 2023 to reflect the Centric acquisition when appropriate. Provision expense was a bit higher than in previous quarters.

But the ACL coverage ratio stayed unchanged at 1.31% of total loans. Provision was driven by our strong loan growth and the normal charge-offs. We did increase reserves due to changes in our economic forecast, but these increases were largely offset by the release of some COVID-related reserves that we still had on the balance sheet.

We would emphasize that we still see very few signs of stress in our credit quality metrics. And as Mike mentioned, we actually saw improvement in a number of credit metrics year-to-date, including reductions in non-performing, criticized and classified loans. Finally, our effective tax rate was 19.82% in the third quarter.

And with that, I will turn it back over to Mike..

Thanks, Jim. And operator, we'll turn it over to you for questions..

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Frank Schiraldi with Piper Sandler. Your line is open..

Good afternoon..

Hey, Frank..

Mike, I think you mentioned in speaking on loan growth an expectation of mid-single digits, if I heard right.

So, is that for the fourth quarter the guidance?.

It is. We've had some ebb and flow to our loan growth. Like this year, we were at 9, 11 and 13. I think the year before we had a down quarter and then three up quarters and there's just an ebb and flow to some payoffs in the third quarter. And hopefully, we'll be back off to the races and the first -- we expect to be in the first quarter of 2023..

Okay. And then, previously kind of thought about maybe a little bit of a handoff from consumer to commercial. And then I guess, commercial is a bit stronger. But as you look out in 4Q, do you see -- it sounds like you talked about strong pipelines in both.

Do you think it's still maybe sort of 50-50 growth in consumer and commercial in 4Q?.

Yes. It's been surprisingly so throughout this year. Corporate Banking has some nice pipelines in quality investment real estate projects in good markets. We also built up a nice construction book where advances should average about $25 million a month next year. And they're in growing markets.

Like Columbus, you have projects coming in there with Honda and Intel. So, there's a lot of tailwinds in those markets. But even on the C&I side, we see some nice pipelines in the regional books in Cincinnati, Columbus, Cleveland, Pittsburgh and Community Pennsylvania. Really excited about Centric and what they're going to add to the equation.

We expect some good swap fees in the fourth quarter, probably a little bit muted over the third quarter. Then as we move to the consumer businesses, they're off a little bit but not much. Indirect is having a strong quarter. SBA pipelines are getting deeper.

Mortgage has settled down at probably 30% less than peak, but we really still like the business and the operator there has scaled it for that size. And interestingly on the branch based side we've seen the HELOC volume moved or HELOAN volume moved to HELOC, which you have to wait for the draw. But we like the activity.

We like the way it sets up for 2023 all things being equal. And that's trudging along with -- despite inflation tight employment and really constructive business outlook at least in our markets..

Okay, great. And then just a question for Jim on the margin. I just wanted to make sure I understood, or I heard correctly on the expected beta.

So was that a 20% beta through cycle? And then just curious if you could talk a little bit about why the change in expectations? Is it just as simple as what you've seen to date on that side of things?.

Yeah, Frank a good question. I'm glad you asked, because we've been saying 25% beta all through the cycle. And we say that every quarter and then the beta comes in at zero. And looking back to be honest, we thought we were pretty clever at the beginning of the rate cycle by instituting a delay in our expectations.

So we said at the beginning that rather than just 25% from the get-go, we thought we would be able to go the first two rate hikes with no beta zero and then 25% thereafter. That was three or four quarters ago on our earnings call. So you recall us saying that. And then, of course, we've gone 300 basis points of hikes at a zero beta through this time.

So the beta study we have is based on our historical data. Just look back. The look back was done in October of last year. That was very consistent with our store experience at that time. It was 25%. That led us to the 25% conclusion. We just refreshed that analysis when taking into account the low beta this year. The new number is 20% in the aggregate.

Obviously there's a different beta in every deposit category, but the aggregate number is 20%. So we think going forward if the Fed does hike in the fourth quarter, we're going to pass some of that along to our depositors and that's the term period beta assumption. And then over time the beta will catch up.

So I mean if there are no hikes in the first, second, third quarter next year if the Fed holds path, our deposit rates will continue to rise just like everybody else such that we still think at the end of the cycle cumulatively, it will end up totaling around 20%. Hopefully that gives a little clarity. I appreciate your question..

Yeah. Thanks. And then just on the 4Q NIM expansion. So that was based on betas moving higher over time, not necessarily a 20% cumulative beta by 4Q.

Is that right?.

Yes, it's not a cumulative -- not -- thank you again for asking. It's not saying that we'll have reached a cumulative beta of 20% by the end of 4Q. It's only saying in our assumption is that it will be a 20% current period beta.

So if the Fed fund raise rates by 100 basis points, we expect passing on 20% of that the profits in the fourth quarter, only the current period.

And the rate forecast I gave you actually is based on our -- that's based on our latest rate forecast that we received that it currently expects 275 basis point hikes, so 150 basis points of rate increases in the Fed funds rate by year-end..

Great. Okay. Thanks for all the color..

You bet..

The next question is from Daniel Tamayo with Raymond James. Your line is open..

Thanks. Good afternoon guys. Now to continue on this margin discussion, but that's great color on the fourth quarter. Obviously the margin is going to be above historical levels by that point.

Just curious how you're thinking about the margin going forward past the fourth quarter assuming we get some stability in rates if those start to come down to I guess historical levels, or do you think there's something structural about the margin now where you can maintain higher net interest margin? Thanks..

Well, I do think we'll be able to maintain a higher interest margin for some time. It will continue a little bit and we keep repricing the loans upward. We reprice to fixed loans up even though if they come due, we reprice this upward. We saw a nice steady progression of that throughout the third quarter.

So there's the instant repricing of Fed raises rates here in the fourth quarter. But even if the Fed stops raising all through next year, we'll still see some upticks in loan yields just as we reprice the book upward.

But I think the question, you're getting kind of gets at this mission of a peak NIM, and when do you think that NIM will peak, it's hard to predict because we're in the middle of an acquisition and it's hard to -- we can't really talk about some of those numbers, right now.

But it does look like the NIM will peak sometime over the course of next year. And then if the Fed holds rates pass for a while a lot of the loan book repricing, will kind of settle into a nice higher NIM and stay there for some time..

I would just add, the five acquisitions that we've done notwithstanding Centric, have all been accretive to our margin and profitability. And we expect the same. .

Okay. All right. That's very helpful. Thank you. And then maybe we talk a little bit about the fee income. I think we've talked about guidance in the $26 million to $27 million range per quarter.

Just wondering what your current thoughts are on that?.

Probably, roughly the same. We have SBA ticking up a little bit. Maybe the swap income ticks down, even with the strength of Christmas. I think our -- interchange will probably be roughly the same maybe up a little. So that's kind of the tale of the tape, at least from this vantage point. You're always surprised, a little bit.

And mortgage has been chugging along and doing well, but it's certainly not at the height it was two or three years ago. We're long on that business. We get a young creditworthy household with the mortgage and that's also important to the bank. .

Understood. Terrific. And then lastly, just from a credit perspective, wondering if you're kind of purposely pulling back anywhere as we prepare for perhaps an economic slowdown next year. Any categories or just a little bit less aggressive in terms of lending? Thanks. .

We're not, yet. We're reading the tea leaves with the economy from quarter-to-quarter, but we're not yet. We feel like we can with good standards and we can at least lend through the cycle notwithstanding severe shocks or unanticipated consequences in the economy. .

Right. Well, thanks for all the color, guys. That’s all for me. Appreciate it..

The next question is from Michael Perito with KBW. Your line is open. .

Hi, good afternoon. Thanks for taking my questions..

You bet..

I wanted to start. Jim, you mentioned the new kind of expense run rate for the fourth quarter. And I know you guys will provide more commentary for next year specifically in January.

But just curious, if you guys have any initial thoughts kind of excluding Centric, when you think about that NIM stepping up towards 4%, the investments you guys are making some of the digital progress? Do you guys think you will be able to generate positive operating leverage on the kind of the core business next year, if rates kind of do what the consensus forecast say they're going to do at this point?.

That's our history. And as we think about deposit betas understand too, if the growth doesn't materialize the beta will be lower. And if the growth is higher -- the loan growth is higher, the beta will be higher. So we're -- Jim and Jane our deposit committee meets every other week, and they monitor that very, very closely..

And what are some of the pressure points, I guess for lack of a better way of putting it where the loan-to-deposit ratio sits at about 90% today.

Like let's say, you guys do high single-digit loan growth in the next couple of quarters, right? I mean, what's the flexibility to maybe shrink investments or cash, or would you guys look to maintain the liquidity level, and just try to be more aggressive adding funding and push the data a little bit? Can you just maybe spend a little bit more time just on that, element of the dynamic in terms of deposit betas?.

Yes. We've only begun to hang rate in the last 30 to 60 days. So, we have not hung any rates. .

Deposit rates. .

Deposit rates. So we just haven't been in deposit acquisition mode. We haven't had to be. We could sop up a lot of liquidity out there. .

Yes. And I'll give some additional color just components to your question. We basically have been letting the securities portfolio run-off, and it's been a nice source of funding for the bank. The run-off slowed down a little bit because we put on some of the securities at lower rates. And if you look at AOCI obviously, a lot of that is underwater.

So the prepayment speeds have slowed but it's still producing cash flow. So our plan is to let that continue to produce cash flow and reinvest that into loan growth.

And then the excess cash we had earlier in the year I mean I think early in the year at some point this year a crested and peaked at about $0.5 billion during calendar year 2022 I think it was early in the second quarter of excess cash. We deployed a lot of that into – we've put all that in loan growth.

So the plan is as Mike said, now that are pursuing – we want to be – we want to pursue the deposit. We want to fund our loan growth with deposit growth. That obviously is a higher rate environment to keep up with competition but that is the long-term plan. .

Helpful. And then just lastly for me. I know you can't be too specific but just kind of love to check in on this. The this whole AOCI book value, tangible capital dynamic has kind of had a – I don't want to say an odd but an interesting impact on the way the stocks are trading and the way I think people are thinking about M&A.

And obviously with Centric, you guys are kind of nudging about $1 billion or so over the $10 billion threshold. And just curious Mike, if you have any kind of just general thoughts about how you're viewing the markets and the opportunities that will be out there.

And obviously, there's not a huge rush and we discussed that when you announced the deal but just curious if there anything that's gone on in the last 90 days has been noteworthy or changed the way you kind of view the M&A environment?.

Nothing in terms of the M&A environment. I'll let Jim speak to AOCI. But I mean we're really constructive on the deal we have right now. And they're a branch-light franchise with high net interest margin commercially-oriented bank. It just fits like a glove for us. It's well run with good producers.

So we just think like the other opportunities that that will be very positive for the forward momentum of our company. And as Jim mentioned, we can't speak about that for another quarter.

But Jim, why don't you talk a little bit about the other aspect of this question?.

So I just – I think I can bifurcate your question in two different streams of thought. One is that there is definitely an impact of AOCI as things go on. So for example from the time you negotiate a deal to the time you actually close the deal there can be such a movement in rates now.

That your calculation of marks will change and you have to take that kind of thing into account. But I don't think any of that affects and it really impacts our long-term thinking on M&A. We want to do deals that are both strategic that fit our franchise but our community bank philosophy and that are financially accretive to the bank.

So I don't think that even though the kinds of M&A that we have considered in the past, the geographic regions we've considered in the past, the general M&A long-term strategy for us really hasn't changed as a result of this phenomenon. You have to take it into account.

You take the rate environment into account, but it doesn't change anything for us long term. .

And what also doesn't change is us appearing in 2024 and 2025 on the other side of Durbin impact and striving to be as profitable and I've said if not more profitable than we were the last several years in terms of ROA, pre-tax, pre-provision, all of the above. That's the goal.

And obviously, M&A gives you nice operating leverage but we also have businesses that are growing, like SBA, like equipment finance, our core businesses in our regions, our consumer lending businesses. I mean these were hard gang.

I mean we were in a de novo three or four years ago and now they create a broad base of revenue for our company and opportunities for growth and to serve our customers. And they also help us through thick and thin when things get tough. We're not reliant on a category or two of loans..

I hope that helps..

Yes, no, it does. Good color and thanks again for taking my questions..

You bet..

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is from Matthew Breese with Stephens. Your line is open.

Good afternoon. Just thinking about kind of the Fed outlook and what happens post-Fed tightening. So if we get a cessation in Fed hikes in early 2023, what is the expectations for the NIM and the aftermath of that? I mean a lot of asset sensitive banks are talking about somewhat of a peak and some decline in the margin after that.

Curious, if that's your expectations?.

Yes, it would be. It would be because there will be a continuing linger effect of repricing loan book upper, but also repricing deposits stuff were to get to that cumulative data we talked about before. So just to kind of be more clear about that we would think that we probably would reach peaking in sometime in the first half next year.

It's hard to pinpoint the exact time. It's first quarter, second quarter or late this quarter or early second quarter, but it's probably sometime in the first half next year. .

Okay.

And then as we approach that point and given to the earlier question about you'll be running at above historical average, kind of, NIM do you do anything to preserve it? Any sort of balance sheet swaps or migration of the balance sheet towards a more interest rate neutral position? Should we expect that?.

Well we've done that organically with how we've constructed the balance sheet 50-50 variable fix. So we've done that. And then also in the past we have layered in macro swaps to protect upward and downward movement. We've done it a number of times. .

Yes, so we're going to be open to that. .

Okay.

And then secondly just on some of the fixed rate loan resets I'm curious what the incoming new loan yields are on some of the commercial real estate and multifamily and things like that? And then on a reset are you seeing any stress on the borrowers kind of bottom-line as you go from rates from three, four, five years ago and call it the 4% range.

So today I'm guessing it's north of 6%.

Is there any, sort of, stress on their bottom lines? And have they been able to kind of mitigate that higher interest rate with higher rents and the like?.

Well, they have to when they bring a project because we're all stressing the projects with different interest rate assumptions. And if you have better developers they understand that. And so that would be the way I would answer that question.

Invariably there will be stress for projects but it depends on the quality of sponsors and developers that you've underwritten and are wherewithal to work through it should things get even tougher. .

And on the rate reset question I don't have it by category in particular to get to you but I'd just tell you this is just such a nice progression over the course of the quarter. So for the entire quarter the new loans were coming on at four call it 4.59%. The old loans are going off at 4.39%. So it's nice replacement yields.

But it's a really solid progression month-over-month through the third quarter. So for example, the new loan yields in the three months of the quarter we're coming out of 4.30% then 4.60%, and then the last month in according to September 4.97% so pushing 5% and the subcategories some commercial categories over 5%.

That's just a really nice progression month-over-month. That's the bank as a whole. That's in aggregate. But it's a nice progression month-to-month in the third quarter. And so we'd expect that to continue even after the Fed --for some time anyway even after the Fed stops raising rate. .

Got it. Okay. I appreciate taking questions. That’s all I had. Thank you..

Thanks, Matt..

End of Q&A:.

We have no further questions at this time. I'll turn it over to Mike Price, President and Chief Executive Officer for any closing remarks. .

Sincere thanks for your interest in our company and questions, and it's good to be with you this afternoon. .

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..