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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q3
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Executives

Dave Powers - President and CEO Craig Kesler - CFO.

Analysts

Trey Grooms - Stephens Billy Newby - D.A. Davidson Scott Schrier - Citi Jerry Revich - Goldman Sachs Adam Thalhimer - Thompson Davis.

Operator

Good day, everyone, and welcome to Eagle Materials Conference Call for the Third Quarter of Fiscal 2018. This call is being recorded. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to Eagle President and CEO, Mr. Dave Powers. Mr. Powers, please go ahead..

Dave Powers

Thank you, Skyler. Good morning. And welcome to Eagle Materials conference call for our third fiscal quarter of 2018. We’re glad that you could be with us today. Joining me today are Craig Kesler, our Chief Financial Officer; and Bob Stewart, Executive Vice President of Strategy, Corporate Development and Communications.

There will be a slide presentation made in connection with this call. To access it, please go to eaglematerials.com and click on the link to the webcast. While you’re accessing the slides, please note that the first slide covers our cautionary disclosure regarding forward-looking statements made during this call.

These statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause results to differ from those discussed during the call. For further information, please refer to this disclosure, which is also included at the end of our press release.

Let me begin by simply saying that Eagle Materials had a strong fiscal third quarter from an operating standpoint and an exceptional quarter from an earnings standpoint. Our operations exceeded my expectations in capturing the market opportunities available to them over the quarter.

Beyond this record operating contribution, the Company is already benefiting from tax reform. And we can expect this tax reform will enable us to more fully invest in our people and our operations over the years to come.

We were also able to put the wallboard antitrust class action lawsuits behind us with agreements to settle all direct and indirect purchaser claims, and this did reduce the magnitude of our record earnings. Well, we did nothing wrong. We made the business decision to put the litigation risk, the expense and the distraction behind us.

We believe we have better-than-average visibility on the prospects for our business over the next two years. And these prospects are very good indeed. We feel it would take a lot to derail the train right now, but the biggest risk being more geopolitical uncertainty than economic uncertainty. Eagle’s strategy has been to remain exclusively a U.S.

company, and U.S. construction markets are a great place to be looking forward, especially for our businesses. We more than doubled the size of our cement system this cycle and expect to benefit greatly from favorable supply-demand dynamics here going forward.

Today, our earnings contribution from the cement group has grown to exceed that of all other segments. We still feel we’re only approaching mid cycle in housing construction and repair in new model spend, and our Wallboard and Paperboard businesses are benefiting from increased demand as well as increased pricing as demand presses capacity.

We implemented a wallboard price increase in January. We will be commenting on the success of this announced increase in the quarters to come.

There are some cost headwinds affecting the industry and notably among these for us is freight, which from today’s vantage point, looks like it might increase about $2 per 1,000, which would adversely affect our mill nets going forward. I’m also pleased to report that our frac sand business is contributing meaningfully this fiscal year.

With the Utica mine project on track for completion this summer, we expect materially greater contribution from this business in the coming fiscal year. We continue to be disciplined capital allocators.

We’re proactive in identifying high return organic growth projects that build our system benefit and improve the cost position and productivity of our plants. We also evaluate numerous opportunities for growth that align with our strategy and investment criteria.

I want to assure you, as we move through the cycle that we will not relax our investment discipline. I recognize this relaxation has been commonly evidenced in prior cycles in the construction materials industry. Eagle did not fall into these traps then and has no intention of doing so this cycle either.

This discipline has served us well and having the balance sheet capacity to take advantage of opportunities when others could not, and it gives us tremendous financial flexibility going forward. We continue to generate meaningful amounts of cash and we have a track record of managing these situations effectively to the benefit of our shareholders.

Now, let me turn it over to Craig to comment on the financial results..

Craig Kesler

Thank you, Dave. Eagle’s third quarter revenues were a record $359 million and improved 19% from the prior year. Eagle’s quarterly earnings per share improved 78% to a record $2.08. As we mentioned in the press release, Eagle’s third quarter financial results include two nonrecurring items.

First, we recorded a $39 million pretax charge related to the settlement of our class action wallboard antitrust litigation. Second, we recorded a $61 million benefit related to tax reform.

This is a onetime non-cash decrease to income expense and relates to the remeasurement of our net deferred tax liabilities to lower corporate statutory rates as a result of the recently enacted tax reform. Going forward, we expect the new lower rates to increase both Eagle’s net earnings and after tax cash flow.

Prior to tax reform, our effective tax rate had been around 33%. At this time, we anticipate our effective tax rate in fiscal 2019 to be in the range of 22% to 24%. This next slide highlights the results of our Cement, Concrete and Aggregates businesses.

A 12% improvement in cement sales volumes and improved Cement, Concrete and Aggregates pricing were the primary drivers of the 12% increase in Eagle’s quarterly comparative of Cement, Concrete and Aggregates revenues.

Operating earnings from these businesses also improved 12% to a record $56 million, reflecting the addition of the Fairborn Business and improved pricing. Moving to our Wallboard and Paperboard businesses. Improved sales volumes drove an 11% improvement in our quarterly comparative of Wallboard and Paperboard revenues.

Quarterly operating earnings of these businesses improved 1% to $51 million. Eagle’s Oil and Gas Proppants operating earnings improved from the prior year and the near-term prospects for our frac sand business have continued to improve from this time last year, which is reflected in 230% increase in our third quarter frac sand sales volumes.

This improvement in sales volumes helped generate EBITDA of nearly $5 million for the third quarter.

Operating cash flow during the first nine months of the year was down 5%, reflecting the timing of certain working capital items, while capital investments increased to $84 million, which includes investments in our Nevada cement facility, the Bernalillo wallboard plant start-up and construction of our new frac sand drawing plant, Illinois.

We also completed the Wildcat acquisition earlier in the fiscal year. Excess cash flow was used to pay dividends, repurchase shares, and reduce outstanding borrowings. This last slide reflects the cash flow generation results of our highly competitive low-cost position. Our net debt to cap ratio was 28% at December 31, 2017.

Thank you for attending today’s call. Skyler, we’ll now move to the question-and-answer session..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from Trey Grooms with Stephens. Your line is now open..

Trey Grooms

First question is on cement.

Can you talk a little bit about the -- I guess, some of the factors that are behind the lower like-for-like cement volume in the quarter, both with the JV and the wholly owned? And kind of from where we sit today, what you’re expecting for end-market demand in the markets that you operate in looking into the calendar 2018 or maybe fiscal 2019?.

Dave Powers

Well, Trey, first of all, our cement volume is down about 2% and a lot of that has to do with some jobs that were delayed and some weather. Going forward, we’re not really economists, but when I read all the folks that are making projections, we’re looking at about 2.5% growth going forward for next year, and the years beyond that, a little bit more.

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Trey Grooms

Okay. And that’s with the JV, I mean, obviously, I would have expected some impact from weather there.

If you look forward with kind of what’s going on and what you’re seeing in backlog and so forth with the JV, is the weather issues kind of behind us there, is there any lingering impacts from that that we should expect or just any color there?.

Dave Powers

We think the weather impacts are behind us..

Trey Grooms

Okay. Thank you. And I guess, kind of moving on to wallboard, looking at the quarter, obviously volumes were good, very strong in the quarter. But, when we’re kind of looking into calendar 2018, past the December quarter, kind of along the same lines of the cement question.

What are you guys thinking or seeing as far as expectations into end-market demand for wallboard? And then, as follow-up to that specifically in the December quarter, do you feel like there was any pre-buying or inventory building going into the new year in December, or just how to think about your thoughts around that?.

Craig Kesler

Trey, this is Craig. I will address your first part. On the wallboard demand side, if you think about what drives wallboard demand, it’s 85-plus-percent related to residential construction, both new construction and repair and remodel construction.

And at least forecasts for those two demand drivers continue to improve and the underlying fundamentals for that business continue to look very strong as we head into this calendar year. On the pre-buying and the demand in our third quarter, you do have very strong underlying fundamentals as we talked about.

But, in addition, you have some of the activity post the hurricanes that would have picked up a little bit in the quarter, not to mention some of the pre-buying. It’s hard to distinguish, when you have improving economic activity underlying that it’s hard to distinguish between which of those is impacting or how it impacted the volumes exactly.

But it could have been 30 million square feet or so in the quarter that was kind of associated with pre-buying and that type of activity..

Trey Grooms

All right. That’s super helpful, Craig. Thank you. And still with wallboard, on OCC, prices being back down, paperboard looks like it’s benefiting pretty quickly from that.

How do we think about the timing and how that impacts the wallboard business and starts to roll through there?.

Craig Kesler

Yes. So, Trey, the pricing mechanism in the wallboard business is on the quarterly lags we’ve talked about.

And so, in this case, the benefit of the wallboard business is still experiencing a little higher paper prices, but that should start to abate in the next couple of months as those contracts start to roll, or the pricing rolls into how they pass it through..

Trey Grooms

Got it. Last one for me and I’ll pass it on, is the tax reform, you talked on tax expectation for effective tax rate. But, you also touched a little bit on how this will allow you to invest in people and operations, organic, internal type growth.

Any color you can give us on that, any specifics in may be how to think about CapEx and then resulting D&A as a result of that..

Craig Kesler

Sure, Trey. As it relates to tax reform and the increased cash flow that we will see from tax reform, it doesn’t really change our capital allocation strategy or priorities. We will continue to invest the business to strengthen our low cost producer position. We will continue to opportunistically grow the Company where the return criterions are met.

And as we’ve always done, we balance that with returning cash to shareholders. We’ve historically done that primarily through our share repurchase program. So, while the tax reform is certainly a good thing for Eagle, it doesn’t change the way we allocate capital.

The priorities have remained the same, and we’ll continue to invest in good return projects..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Billy Newby with D.A. Davidson. Your line is now open..

Billy Newby

Good morning. Bill on for Brent Thielman today. Thanks for taking my questions. So, I guess, with -- kind of shifting gears over to the frac sand business.

With the recovering oil prices that we’ve seen kind of develop through the end of this year, are you guys -- can you just talk about any changes in the conversations you’re having with customers and any changes to the outlook in that business as we move into this calendar year?.

Dave Powers

I would say that we are sold out in the frac sand business. And many of our agreements with customers are tied to oil prices, WTI. And yes, we are having conversations with our customers as the oil prices go up..

Billy Newby

Okay.

And is that -- I assume that’s kind of leading you guys to become a little bit more optimistic in regards to the oil well cement business as well?.

Dave Powers

Absolutely, it is. Yes. We’re expecting to supply more product to the oil well cement area..

Billy Newby

Right.

And I guess, is it -- with the way that frac sand business is developing in this kind of new oil environment, is there runway for that business to reach a breakeven point by the end of this year or is that a little ahead of ourselves?.

Craig Kesler

Yes. So that business continues to generate pretty meaningful cash flow, as you can see over the past this whole year, on an EBITDA basis. And then, as we’ve talked about the last couple of quarters, we’re investing in building out the drawing facility up in our Illinois plant, and that should be ready this summer in July of 2018.

That will add another 1.5 million tons to our total capacity, as Dave mentioned. The one facility that we’re running today in Wisconsin is sold out, and we’re looking forward to bringing on the incremental capacity in Illinois and even further improve the cash flows that are generated from this business..

Operator

Our next question comes from Scott Schrier with Citi. Your line is now open..

Scott Schrier

First question on the wallboard and the wallboard margins, and I appreciate the commentary on the increased freight costs that you have.

I’m curious, in this quarter, aside from the freight and the OCC, is there any other buckets? And specifically, have you been shipping more from Duke into Houston? Does that add a level of freight also just because of the distance and is that something that we should continue to see going forward?.

Dave Powers

First of all, on the wallboard business, we had quite a bit of legal expenses during the quarter that adversely affected our margins. We did shift some product to Duke during the quarter and we paid quite a bit higher freight as a result of it.

There was a shortage of trucks and in some situations we paid 50% more freight just to get product down there to take care of our customers’ needs. So, those are two things that impacted us during the quarter..

Scott Schrier

Got it. And then, on wallboard in New Mexico, can you just talk about the ramp up of the plant? I know you had some costs last quarter with restarting it. I think that’s all behind us.

Are you seeing good margins out of that plant and good demand into the Phoenix area?.

Dave Powers

We actually are making a little bit of money out of the plant during the quarter and we’re running it as a peaker plant. If I’ve got two days worth of orders, I will run it two days; if we’ve got four, we will run it four days. So, we’re pleased with where it’s at right now, just starting it up in September..

Scott Schrier

Got it. And then, on the cement margins compressing, if I’m thinking about the input costs there and how to think about it going forward.

Is the compression year-over-year, is that just due to fixed cost absorption from the like for like volume decline or are you seeing other areas of cost inflation too that we should think about?.

Craig Kesler

Scott, you’ve got to think about it in a couple of different ways. With the addition of the Fairborn facility again added quite a bit of depreciation on an operating earnings level, EBITDA margins continue to perform pretty well in that business as we look at it that way. We did see some cost pressures on the fuel side.

But backing out the impact of the Fairborn depreciation which would still be a year-over-year unique comparison; that would be the majority of it..

Scott Schrier

Got it. That’s helpful.

One last one, can you just us some more color into Wildcat, what kind of progress you’re seeing there, the types of material that you’re shipping whether it’s locations, and how now you’re thinking about that impacting the business going forward?.

Craig Kesler

We acquired that business late during the summer, and that business continues to do well, volumes continues to grow there, and really starting to see the benefits of that within our whole system. It was predominantly still moving frac sand but with some good opportunities for us going forward.

It’s not a huge mover in terms of the earnings today, but we think that business long-term will just continue to strengthen our low-cost position in the oil and gas business..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from Jerry Revich with Goldman Sachs. Your line is now open..

Jerry Revich

Dave, earlier in the call, you mentioned cement, you’re expecting low volume growth this year, before an acceleration hopefully in 2019.

Can you just flush that out in terms of what’s driving the view of more unit growth this year, is it public, is it private, non-res? Any additional context that you can give us for your footprint?.

Dave Powers

We think all of them are going to be up a little bit. When I look at residential, the people do the forecasting and housing starts are going from a 1.2 million to 1.3 million at some additional tonnage. But, we would agree with all the folks that are projecting in the area of 2.5% going forward in the markets that we play in..

Jerry Revich

Okay.

And then in terms of the ramp up in Utica for the sand business, just help us understand how much contract cover do you have or the pace of production ramp we should be looking for? And in terms of as you are ramping up business, what’s your view on the competitive shipment position that you folks will have compared to others coming out of general area?.

Craig Kesler

Jerry, that the project will finish up here in the summer, as I mentioned and feel very good about our ability to do that incremental 1.5 million tons pretty quickly..

Jerry Revich

And then, on transportation costs, can you talk about the cadence of how you expect the $2 per 1,000 to play out? I guess, what’s the timing of the increase? And, can you just remind us what’s your mix of spot versus contract rate exposure, because spot rates look to be in the teens inflation rate? So, I just want to make sure, we’re properly calibrated..

Dave Powers

We’re looking at about 6% in outbound wallboard shipments; that’s what we’re looking about. And most of those are going to take effect in the first quarter and maybe some into April. But that’s what we’re projecting right now..

Jerry Revich

And then, for context, we’ve seen shipping pricing move higher in prior cycles, that’s tended to reinforce local competitive nature of your wallboard business.

Do you expect that to play out similarly this time or anything we need to keep in mind as transportation costs rise here compared to what we’ve seen in prior cycles?.

Craig Kesler

I think maybe more importantly, Jerry, is all the demand side, as we continue to see whole building and single-family construction activity improve, repair and remodel activity improve, the opportunities to sell our wallboard continue to expand. Freight costs are certainly a part of going to market.

But, with the good underlying fundamentals and looking to continue to improve, that’s more important to us..

Operator

And our next question comes from Adam Thalhimer with Thompson Davis. Your line is now open..

Adam Thalhimer

I want to start with organic cement volumes. You said that the weather headwind was behind you; you also say there was some jobs delays your experienced maybe last quarter or two.

Are the job delays behind us?.

Dave Powers

As we talked about last quarter, I don’t think we’re the only one to be frustrated by cement volumes here in the second half of the year. Whether it’s delays at the state level or any verity of reasons, it has just been frustrating with the way the public construction activity has picked up.

Because the demand or the need is there right, there’s no doubt, the need to continue to improve the infrastructure within the U.S. is there. It’s just a little slow going on the spending side. But we expect that to eventually catch up with it and meet the need there..

Adam Thalhimer

So, if I parse through that comment, I mean, as you’re looking at 2.5% growth for the full year and not you, the industry forecasters, for you guys, does that play out as like plus 0, plus 0, plus 5, plus 5 type of year?.

Craig Kesler

I don’t know that we get into the granularity by quarter. Again, things could change. We try to look at things on a trailing 12-month basis at the very least. But, we continue to see the underlying business improve and we’ll use PCA projections. But, over the long run, we think, we’ll continue to see demand improvement across all of our markets..

Adam Thalhimer

And on the wallboard side, you referenced higher -- what were the legal costs in the quarter?.

Craig Kesler

Sure. It’s just associated with finalizing and settling the antitrust lawsuit, but it was a pretty meaningful number, over couple of million bucks..

Adam Thalhimer

And then, I just want to get your sense in general on the frac sand business and regional sand.

How do you look at the emergence of kind of in-basin sand and do you think you need to add some of that to round out your portfolio?.

Dave Powers

No. We don’t think we need to add any. There is a place for brown sand, 100% brown sand in the Permian. We make very little 100 mesh, we’re 100% sold out. Our new plant, 80% is already spoken for. It’s great to have options in other markets and we have those..

Operator

And we have a follow-up question from Scott Schrier with Citi. Your line is open..

Scott Schrier

I just wanted to follow up on the concrete and aggs pricing. Obviously, it looks like you’ve had a lot of stress there. So, I just want to see if there is anything specific to call out, whether it is regional mix? I know, you had some weather issues in Austin there. Just anything on that price will be helpful..

Craig Kesler

No. Nothing unusual, Scott. We’re just really concentrated in three markets and very separated from each other But, those have continued to improve here but nothing unusual in there..

Operator

At this time, I’m showing no further questions. I’d like to turn the call back over to Mr. Dave Powers for closing remarks..

Dave Powers

I want to thank all of you for participating in the call and we look forward to talking with you in the spring. Thank you..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today’s conference. This does conclude the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day..

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