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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q4
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Executives

Craig M. Rossman - Emerson Electric Co. David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co. Frank J. Dellaquila - Emerson Electric Co..

Analysts

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker) Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc. John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc. Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC Mike Wood - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc. Scott Reed Davis - Barclays Capital, Inc. Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co.

LLC Nigel Coe - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC Shannon O'Callaghan - UBS Securities LLC Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc. Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC Christopher D. Glynn - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker) Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC.

Operator

Good day ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by. Welcome to Emerson's Investor Conference Call. During today's presentation by Emerson management, all parties will be in a listen-only mode. Following the presentation, the conference will be open for questions. This conference is being recorded today, November 3, 2015.

Emerson's commentary and responses to your questions may contain forward-looking statements, including the company's outlook for the remainder of the year. Information on factors that could cause actual results to vary materially from those discussed today is available at Emerson's most and recent Annual Report on Form 10-K as filed with the SEC.

I would now like to turn the conference over to our host, Craig Rossman, Director of Investor Relations at Emerson. Please go ahead, sir..

Craig M. Rossman - Emerson Electric Co.

Thank you, Caroline. Today I'm joined by Dave Farr, Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of Emerson and Frank Dellaquila, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Today's call will summarize Emerson's fourth quarter and fiscal 2015 results. A conference call slide presentation will accompany my comments and is available Emerson's website.

A replay of this conference call and slide presentation will available on the website for the next 90 days. I will start with the fourth quarter and fiscal year summary on page two of the slide presentation. Net sales in the quarter decreased 15% to $5.8 billion with underlying sales down 7%.

Net sales for the fiscal year decreased 9% to $22.3 billion with underlying sales down 2%. Both the quarter and the year were significantly affected by number of economic headwinds. The continuation of lower oil prices resulted in both capital and more recently operational spending reductions by our global oil and gas customers.

General industrial capital spending was slow throughout the year, particularly in energy related markets. Emerging market growth was sluggish with weakening conditions as we exited fiscal 2015.

In response to the weakening demand, we accelerated our restructuring programs in the fourth quarter with a total spend of $128 million, which exceeded our August conference call guidance by just over $40 million or an impact of approximately $0.04 cents per share. For the fiscal year total restructuring expense was $221 million.

During the quarter we also incurred $52 million of costs and taxes related to the spinoff of Network Power, $10 million for transaction costs and $42 million of income tax expense for planned repatriation of earnings in 2016.

On September 30, we announced the completion of the divestiture of the InterMetro business resulting in a gain for our shareholders. Reported earnings per share for the fourth quarter increased 69% to $0.98. Earnings per share adjusted for the divestiture gains and Network Power spinoff costs decreased 29% to $0.93.

Reported earnings per share for the fiscal year increased 32% to $3.99 while adjusted earnings per share decreased 15% to $3.17. During the fiscal year, the company returned $3.8 billion to shareholders through dividends and share repurchase.

Turning to slide three, gross profit margin in the quarter decreased 170 basis points to 40.7%, primarily due to volume deleverage and unfavorable business and product mix. EBIT margin reflects the impacts of the accelerated restructuring, the Network Power spinoff costs, and benefit of divestiture gains.

Fourth quarter margins were up 270 basis points on a sequential basis versus third quarter EBIT margin of 15.2%. During the quarter, approximately 9 million shares were repurchased for $460 million.

Turning to slide four, global demand was mixed during the fiscal year with underlying sales in the Middle East and Africa up 3%, Canada up 2%, the US down 2%, Europe flat and Asia down 5%.

Turning to slide five, business segment margin declined 450 basis points to 15.7%, primarily due to volume deleverage, unfavorable mix and increased restructuring expenses. Operating cash flow reflected solid conversion of earnings and working capital. Turning to slide six, Process Management underlying sales declined 10% in the quarter.

Capital and operational spending remained at reduced levels within the oil and gas industry. Upstream markets are under the most pressure while downstream activity in chemical and power markets continue to provide growth opportunities. The Middle East, Africa region grew 2% with mixed but generally favorable activity levels across the region.

Accelerated restructuring activities resulted in spending of $52 million in the quarter, an impact of 230 basis points. Demand will remain under pressure for most of the fiscal 2016 as the expectation for lower for longer oil prices will keep industry spending at reduced levels.

Turning to slide seven, Industrial Automation fourth quarter underlying sales declined 12% reflecting the continued weakness in industrial spending, upstream oil and gas markets and European demand. Demand was down in all regions with North America down 20%, Europe down 2%, and Asia down 8%.

We will continue to evaluate the potential divestitures of the motors and drives and power generation businesses during fiscal 2016. Market conditions will remain challenging in the near term with an expectation of improvement in the second half of the fiscal year. Turning to slide eight.

Network Power underlying sales declined 4% in the quarter as global demand for data center infrastructure and telecommunications investment remained mix. Within the geographies, Europe was up 10% while North America was down 10%. Asia was down 5% as strong growth in India and Australia was more than offset by demand weakness in China.

Accelerated restructuring activities resulted in spending of $33 million in the quarter. We continue to expect the spinoff of Network Power to be substantially complete by the end of fiscal 2016. Turning to slide nine. Climate Technologies' fourth quarter underlying sales were down 5%.

North America was down 3% as our results were impacted by challenging year-over-year comparisons stemming from the US residential air conditioning industry pre-build in 2014. Asia was down 10% as slowing demand in China more than offset growth in other regions.

Segment margin increased 10 basis points, primarily supported by cost reductions and favorable materials cost containment which more than offset increased restructuring expenses of $12 million.

We expect modest growth for the Climate Technologies segment next fiscal year as global demand in the air conditioning and refrigeration markets is expected to remain favorable in 2016. Turning to slide 10. Commercial & Residential Solutions' fourth quarter underlying sales were up 3%, benefiting from favorable trends in US construction.

Growth in food waste disposers and wet dry vacuums was substantially offset by a decline in the professional tools business which continues to reflect spending reductions in energy related markets. Segment margins were down 100 basis points but up 10 basis points when excluding the impact from the increased restructuring expense.

The favorable trends in US construction markets are expected to continue, supporting our outlook for moderate levels of growth and profit improvement in 2016. Turning to slide 11. We expect difficult market conditions to remain in effect through at least the first six to nine months of fiscal 2016.

The continuation of the headwinds faced in our key served markets during 2015 will reduce underlying sales growth across our businesses, resulting in an expectation that net sales will decline 6% to 8% in 2016.

Underlying sales are expected to be down approximately 2% to 5% excluding negative currency translation and a deduction from completed divestitures of approximately 2% each. As previously discussed, the sales in the first quarter will be challenging when considering current market conditions and difficult comparisons to the prior year.

We expect first quarter underlying sales to be down approximately 10%, excluding negative currency and divestitures of approximately 6% in total.

Cost structure alignment and the strategic portfolio repositioning will remain a key focus for Emerson in fiscal 2016 where structuring expenses of $50 million to $70 million are expected in 2016 with most of the activity occurring during the first half of the fiscal year.

We also estimate that we would incur expenses of approximately $300 million to $400 million related to the spinoff of Network Power and the potential divestitures of the motors and drives and power generation businesses. The level of activity surrounding the evaluation of an acquisition of key strategic assets will also increase next year.

For EPS guidance, we expect adjusted earnings per share to be $3.05 to $3.25 when excluding the portfolio repositioning costs.

Finally, in support of our commitment to returning cash to Emerson shareholders, the Board of Directors has approved an increase to the first quarter dividend to an annualized rate of $1.90 per share and a new program authorizing the repurchase of 70 million shares. And now I'll turn it over to Mr. David Farr..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Thank you very much, Craig. Welcome everybody this afternoon. And Frank, thanks for joining us today. Glad to be with you and glad to get this fiscal year behind us. It's been a very challenging year. And as we know, we are in a global industry recession for our businesses right now.

We just incurred our third negative underlying sales growth and we will have two more, and I'll talk a little bit about that.

I want to thank all the global corporate and business teams for their support and efforts throughout this year as we dealt with a year that started out very strong with underlying sales growth in the first quarter of over 5%, to immediately going into an extremely tough marketplace throughout the year.

Restructuring efforts, the cost savings, the announced sale of two businesses getting done in one year, the announce of our repositioning with Network Power being spin or sold and/or the sale of Leroy-Somer CT this year. A lot going on.

As I look at the effort and the performance the last several months, we're starting to see the stabilization of some of the markets.

We're also seeing the benefits of the restructuring, which we started back in February aggressively and ended up spending over $221 million as the year got more challenging, we're starting to see the benefits flow through.

We had a fourth quarter of over 20% operating margin in a very difficult year with a lot of down sales and a lot of challenging currency and price costs. As I look forward here, I see the underlying order pace running around this 10%, 11% negative probably for the next several months.

As Craig highlighted, I firmly believe as we've talked about for several conference calls now, a very challenging first quarter. We had a very good first quarter last year with strong topline growth, strong margin and strong cash flow and strong earnings per share.

This year we'll be facing negative, probably negative 10% underlying sales growth, with negative 7% currency and divestiture impact, with a lot of issues around that because of the price costs, because of the global trends and all the issues.

And I firmly believe a lot of other companies are starting to struggle, and the question will be how much they will do in the month of December. But we're ready for it. We've been getting ready for this tough time period for the several months now. The restructuring is really starting to take hold.

We have about $60 million to $70 million more restructuring to get done that will benefit 2016. It will be front-end loaded. It's worked extremely hard program by program.

We will get it done in the first five or six months, and we're ready for what I would say, the first negative quarter and then the second negative quarter, which I believe underlying sales could be down somewhere in the 5% to 6% range.

And then we'll start coming out of this both from an easy comparison but also seeing some stability in the markets we serve. So right now, in the industrial recession that Emerson faces, we will have down five quarters.

We will then have the restructuring kick in, really starting to improve our profitability as we get into the second and third and fourth quarters, then we'll start seeing the improvements of the global markets we serve. We will continue to drive hard to get the spin or the sale of Network Power done within the fiscal year of 2016.

We will continue to drive hard to finish the divestiture on Leroy-Somer CT in the fiscal year, and then we'll come out of 2016 with a very strong core business churning up with very high levels of profitability.

Again, a lot of work across this organization to deal with the challenging economic environment we've been facing, and I'm very pleased to see the work done. I'm very pleased to see the effort relative to the cash flow and the balance sheet. And the balance sheet will be, what I would say, in acceptable condition.

It's strong today, but even better when we get into the second quarter as we continue to manage the balance sheet and get what I would say a little bit extra working capital built up in that balance sheet from the past downturn. But we are transacting very hard right now in this tough environment.

The organization is focused on generating the earnings and the cash we need and repositioning this company to have a strong case of growth when the economic recovery happens.

In the meantime, acquisitions, we're very strongly focused on the two core markets and the opportunities, working those acquisition opportunities the best we can, and we're underway to hopefully consummate several acquisitions throughout 2016 as the opportunities come about. But we're going to be facing a challenging next six months. We know that.

The business leaders know that. The board knows that, and we're taking the actions necessary to protect the company overall from a technology and profitability standpoint and the financial capability and positioning ourself for a strong underlying growth recovery and a strong acquisition tuck recovery once the repositioning effort is underway.

We chose to increase the dividend slightly this year. We have the cash flow. As you look at the new business, or the new Emerson when we come out in late 2016, early 2017, the cash flow generation of the company is very strong and we can support the dividend at the same time supporting any acquisitions or share repurchase necessary.

So right now, we're very focused on getting through this time period of the next six months, getting the nose back up and getting the company positioned to recover strongly for our shareholders both the top line, profitability and cash flow. But the same time, yes, we had a very difficult year last year. Yes, our underlying sales were down over 2%.

Yes, our reported sales were down 9%. But we did generate nearly $3 billion of operating cash flow when you adjust for the extra taxes we paid for the divestitures, and we generated over 17% operating profit margin in a very challenging environment. And our goal is to again generate that same 17% as we go into another down year in 2016.

The environment is what the environment is. We deal with it. But we're going to try to control what we can control, and we're going to control our profitability, our cash flow, our returns and any acquisitions we can get done.

And we will get the spin/sale done if necessary as quickly as possible, and we'll get the sale of CTE – Leroy-Somer done as quickly as possible. That's where we sit today, and I want to thank the global organization for what they've done and where we're positioned.

We'll give you a better insight around the segments as we get into our discussion in February, which I believe is in Austin, Texas. I mean there's no snow in Austin, Texas. Maybe a little rain, but not typically in February.

So hopefully I will see a lot of shareholders down in Austin, Texas, so they can see the core process business we have down there and explain to you what we're going to do as we come out of this industrial recession we've been facing here for the last several quarters and will face for the next two quarters.

With that, I'll open the line to take some calls. And I appreciate everyone's support and engagement as we go forward here in the coming months and year. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And we'll go first to Julian Mitchell with Credit Suisse..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Thank you..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Julian..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Good afternoon. Just a question on the notion of organic sales maybe turning back up again in the June quarter of next year.

As you said, that's after five quarters of decline, so are you just kind of taking the template of prior downturns that lasted around that long and applying it this time? Or are you seeing something specific in the orders in either energy or broad emerging markets that you think support that improvement?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

First of all, we look at the pace of how fast we came down. We look at historical trend lines. At that point in time, I see nothing that early that far out relative to the pace. It's just, I look at what we've gone through, through some difficult economic downturns over the years. Sometimes it's four, sometimes it's five.

The more challenging ones typically are five. I am not assuming there is a global recession. I'm assuming the global environment is very similar to what we're facing today, challenging, in certain markets doing okay, certain markets not doing okay.

But we get to a point that you get low enough and our pace of business and the type of marketplace we serve, they will start investing in certain space again. So that's where I come from, Julian..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Thank you. And then just around Network Power, the clean profits, stripping out restructuring, I think were still down about 40% for 2015 as a whole, down 30% something exiting the year. So I just wondered how that plays into the spin decision and at what point you think we might start to see the earnings in Network Power stabilize..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

From the standpoint of spin, I think what's unfolding in Network Power is still within what we planned. When we look at 2016, it's still well within its plan. So we can either spin or we can look at a potential strategic sale. From my perspective, as I look at the pace of orders and what's going on right now, we're starting to see some stability.

And I would expect to see that nose turning up as we get into the early 2016 calendar year based on what we're seeing trend line from these guys at this point in time..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Thanks. And just a very quick follow up.

Any color on the price net of raw materials impact on margin in 2016?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I mean, the price cost, it's pretty neutral at this point in time. My gut tells me it'll probably potentially be a negative, what I call red as we get into 2016. It's always a function of pricing pressures and the currency trends we see in the net material inflation. But right now, it's pretty close to being neutral.

But, I guess I would say this year probably could end up being slightly negative as we get into 2016 just based on what I see out there from a competitive standpoint..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Great. Thank you..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

It's something we can manage, to be honest..

Julian Mitchell - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC (Broker)

Yes. Thanks..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Thank you..

Operator

And next we'll go to Johnny Wright with Nomura..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Good afternoon, guys..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Hi, Johnny..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Hi. So maybe just kind of following up on that question on the inflection second half of the year. Looking at the slides, you talked about expectation of improvement in Industrial Automation.

What gives you confidence on that sitting here today? And what really are the key risks to that kind of coming through in 2016?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

It's really a function around how much people cut back spending for the last 18 months, and looking at the trend lines in the customer base, and looking at some of those reinvestments that will start happening. People are not going to keep – they're going to eventually have to reinvest some money. And we do have a pretty good installed base out there.

So that's where it comes from. And we're not talking about a very strong recovery.

I mean, after you go down for three tough quarters, after we go down 10% this quarter, after we go down 6% the next quarter, it's not unusual to see historically a company like Emerson, who's globally well established with installed base quite significant, to have a little bit of recovery coming in that sixth type of quarter.

So I mean, I'm not looking at anything unusual from a marketplace standpoint. And we're again, I'll say, we are expecting the economics environment around the world to be slightly weaker or about the same as we are facing right now.

So the risk would be if we truly went into a global broad recession, then you clearly say okay, the industrial space will be a little bit weaker than I'm thinking. But I don't see any indication we're going to go to a global broad recession at this point in time..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Okay, great. And then on Process Management, the margin front for next year, clearly a lot of restructuring had been focused there. You've got a tailwind from that.

Can you just maybe talk about some of the other dynamics, particularly out on the pricing front and where you're going to be seeing margins coming out next year for Process?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You know, from my perspective, the restructuring underway and the work that Steve Sonnenberg and his whole team have done has been extremely good. And we will have clearly I would say the most negative pricing environment we've seen from those guys in a long time.

However, we do have our unique installed base part, so basically our day-to-day MRO, small project business will help us there.

So with the restructuring effort underway, we expect our margins to be trending upward in Process based obviously after a shocker this year with the restructuring, but we expect our margins to move back up on a comparison basis versus this year.

Even with down sales, because the effort, the restructuring, the effort that these guys have undertaken to get the costs out and assuming a negative price environment, which we are assuming with Process, we're expecting our underlying profitability this improve next year in Process Management obviously relative to this year, but at pretty high levels relative to historical levels..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Sure.

And when you say that, are you talking about in terms of reported margins, so including the restructuring in both years?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, exactly..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Okay..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You see, the Process Management team, if you look at the restructuring they got done this year, they got a lot of restructuring done this year, and they have some left in the $60 million or $70 million next year. But they have got the big part of it behind as of right now, which is a good position to be in.

So what was the total restructuring for Process, Craig, this, for the year? What did they do? You got the chart there..

Craig M. Rossman - Emerson Electric Co.

I have to pull it out in front of me. Sorry..

Frank J. Dellaquila - Emerson Electric Co.

(24:26).

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Rossman, you already gave us those speeches, have a beer..

Frank J. Dellaquila - Emerson Electric Co.

He's tracking down lunch, have a beer..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I mean and then Farr hits him with questions..

Craig M. Rossman - Emerson Electric Co.

$90 million..

Frank J. Dellaquila - Emerson Electric Co.

$90 million..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

$90 million, so they got $90 million done. They've got a lot of restructuring done this year, and so of the $221 million, they got $90 million. So I think they are in good shape going into next year. It's going to be a very difficult first half for Process.

They had a very strong first quarter, but I really feel good about what they've got accomplished from the restructuring standpoint and the costs taken out..

Jonathan David Wright - Nomura Securities International, Inc.

Great. Thanks for your time, guys..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Thank you very much. Appreciate it..

Operator

And next we'll go to John Inch with Deutsche Bank..

John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Hey. Good afternoon, Dave, Craig..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, John..

John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Good afternoon. So I wanted to start with you expect $250 million of savings from actions that you took in 2015, which was $221 million. How do you get more restructuring benefit than what you actually spent? I'm not suggesting you won't, I just want to understand how that's going to work..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Depends on the costs you take out and what type of programs, type of cost layers you take out. I mean, we went in pretty hard to get overhead costs out and some redundancy costs out and we typically get a good payback for that. So we went after it..

John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

David, this restructuring, do you think it can hold? Like in other words it's a little bit of a question of say the mix of variable adjustment versus structural and how – do you have to give some back to the customer? Does some creep back as the business trends better? Maybe you could just help us peel the onion a little bit in terms of what you've done, because it was obviously very aggressive in the quarter.

So just trying to understand..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

It's been aggressive the whole year. We just didn't do it all last month. I know people think that, but it's actually worked its way through and a lot of it's been planned for since starting in February. I mean, I'm not going to go back and tell you exactly what we did. It's clearly that's what I would call our own information. We did spend the money.

We will get the savings built into it, and there will not be a creep. We have built into plans. We know the pricing will be tough in certain marketplaces next year, but that's why we're working the restructuring as hard as we've done. It will stick, and from a standpoint of profitability, we generate very high levels of profitability.

And I'll say it again. Despite a very challenging year in 2015, we did generate 17.3% operating profit on down sales, and we're planning on trying to generate 17% of operating profit next year on down sales. So we know what we're trying to do here relative to profitability, John. So this is one I'm not going to give you any more details.

You've got to trust me. We know how to manage our cost structure at Emerson..

John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Maybe just lastly, Dave, can I ask you, post the spin of Network Power, so I realize you've also made comments that you're looking to pick up the pace of M&A a little bit. But in theory, right, post the spin of Network Power, then Emerson's a smaller footprint.

Do you modify then the dividend accordingly? So you say, well we're now 4/5 of what we were, so we'll modify the dividend in some manner by that? It's not really a leading question to be negative, it's more just trying to understand how this is going to work with respect to your dividend, because the dividend's very important..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I've been very clear on this. We will not be reducing our dividend.

The new company, the new Emerson that comes out when it comes out in 2017, let's say it's around $15.5 billion in size with margins of over 19%, margins generate very good levels of cash flow, more than enough cash flow to justify the current dividend payment and continue to increase the dividend and doing share repurchase and doing acquisitions.

So the business that stays behind is a very strong operating performing return company that can generate enough earnings and enough cash to pay the dividend as we're structured right now. We are not going to be adjusting our dividend payout for the new Emerson..

John G. Inch - Deutsche Bank Securities, Inc.

Got it. Thanks much..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome, John..

Operator

And next we'll go to Steven Winoker with Bernstein..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Thanks, and good afternoon guys..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Steve..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Hey, Dave, what are the actual underlying GFI growth rates then that are embedded in your guidance for 2016?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

On the global G7 basis, I'm embedding around 2.5% basis growth. This year is around 2%, 2.1%, we're in slightly improvement and a global basis. So it's slightly – about the same on the GFI. This is the G7, the bigger markets, so that's what we're looking at.

If you look at the overall forecast out there, it's much higher than that right now and I don't believe it at all. I think we're going to be trending in this low 2%s..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Right, and then – but you still have that picking up during the pace of next year, right?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yeah, as you go into the first half of the year, you're probably looking at what we've been seeing the last six months, in the low 2%s, around the 2.2%, 2.3%, and then I think you then start moving that up in the little bit higher 2%s in the second half of the year as people start turning back into – they've got the stability.

They've got the restructuring. They've got the needs they need to start investing in. So I'm not looking for a big sudden spike but I'm looking that to start trending up toward the mid to higher 2%s..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Okay. And you talked about -.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

By the way, that's not what the economic forecast is, as you know..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Yes, that's why I'm asking you and not a bunch of economists..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I am a dumb unliked CEO so what the hell are you asking me for?.

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

So you mentioned increased activity in evaluating the acquisition of key strategic assets. You talked about consummating several for 2016.

Where is your head and current thinking in terms of the size and directionality in Process and Industrial versus Commercial & Resi? So what kind of expectations should we have on what these things look like?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Most of them are going to be – right now what we're pushing pretty hard are what I would call more of a private type of companies out there.

I really would like to consummate, even though we're talking only about – I'd really like to consummate over $0.5 billion within the industrial process, industrial automation area, and I'd like to consummate maybe $100 million, $150 million over on the Commercial & Residential area as I look at 2016.

These are actions that we're going out and encouragingly, we've been talking to private shareholders and companies that we've been courting for some time, and given the tougher marketplace right now, they are much more receptive to it.

At this point, I do not see any big strategic, say public type of transaction underway, but we're going to keep working the knits around the corners. And particularly, I'm going to start working pretty hard in Asia, too, because I think Asia's got some opportunities that, with their markets being stressed right now, that we want to go after, too..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Okay..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

So we've got the businesses working real hard. Primarily I would say 90% of the money will end up in the industrial asset base over the process world..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Great, and one more thing. I know you don't give quarterly guidance, but just given your commentary in this call and you talked about basically 20% year-on-year decline which is more – higher sequential than the usual amount and decrementals, I'm assuming of about 30%, and then you've got the restructuring offset.

I mean it sounds to me like we certainly, in the tough comps, certainly should be having a number down here well less than $0.45 to $0.50.

But just directionally?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I would directionally, I'd be more around the $0.50 range. I mean last year we reported $0.75, the year before that we reported $0.65.

Our sales, I mean if you think about 2014, coming off that 2014, where we had $5.6 billion in sales and we had a OP margin around 14% and then $0.65 EPS, we're going to be about $1 billion below that in sales, but we've got restructuring underway and helping us. So I think we'll get pretty good flow through.

I would be thinking around a $0.50 number for that first quarter..

Steven Eric Winoker - Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. LLC

Okay, guys. Thanks. Good luck..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome. Now I'm doing that one time, that's it. I'm not giving quarters out..

Operator

And our next question will come from Mike Wood with Macquarie Securities Group..

Mike Wood - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.

Hi. Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

How you doing, Mike?.

Mike Wood - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.

I applaud the aggressive restructuring actions. Just a question first on Process. You mentioned downstream providing growth opportunities. Curious if you're seeing growth there, and if you can give some color in terms of what subsectors are growing on the downstream side..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I mean, what we're seeing is continuing the investments going on in some of the petrochemical areas, the chemical areas, some of the pharmaceutical areas, sort of the areas that people are making those investments using the lower cost of energy both on the oil side and the gas side. We've been seeing the proxies go through.

They're not as large as we thought originally, but they're still going forward. And I don't see people backing off on that. I mean, the projects that Sasol has underway going down in Louisiana, which is a big customer base for us, that's moving forward. So the opportunities are out there.

And I anticipate as we get into the spring and early summer of 2016, some of the companies that have been cutting back on capital and cutting back on, what I would say, necessary investments are going to have to let the money go. I mean, they've got other costs adjusted.

So I think that our underlying MRO, which is a good business for us, will improve and get better as we get into 2016. So, it's not totally dead out there. The big oil and gas projects obviously are struggling. But the other investments around the chemical and petrochemical are still happening for us..

Mike Wood - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.

Okay. And you mentioned the restructuring. I may have missed this.

Did you quantify how much you do in the first half of next year?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

We're going to do, let's say we're going to do $60 million to $70 million.

I think what, Frank, we're going to do 60% of it?.

Frank J. Dellaquila - Emerson Electric Co.

About 60% to 70% of it in the first half, yeah..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

70% in the first half..

Mike Wood - Macquarie Capital (USA), Inc.

Great. Thanks, Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome..

Operator

And next we'll to Scott Davis with Barclays..

Scott Reed Davis - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Hi. Good afternoon, guys..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Scott..

Scott Reed Davis - Barclays Capital, Inc.

I'm trying to get a sense, I was in China a few weeks ago and I walked back pretty darn embarrassed. And it seems like there's some sequential slowdowns there. And if you look at your numbers, it shows exactly what we saw.

And do you have any sense of, I guess a couple things (35:12-35:16) as much of an inventory destock as anything else? Or are things sequentially getting worse there and that concerns you as you go into 2016?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Well, we are planning for a down 2016 in China. From my perspective, we've had two very challenging quarters. I fundamentally believe there has been a destocking going on. Basically what we can tell, Scott, right now I think the worst of that is behind us.

I do believe we will have a challenging first quarter because we had a very good first quarter last year. So I mean it's probably going to be strong double digits down in sales. But I personally don't think it's getting worse. I think that they are trying to reposition. And I expect that we will have a down year next year.

But we'll manage our way through it, get a little bit better as we go forward as they start reprioritizing their investments. But right now, I mean we had a down 18% in the fourth quarter. We're probably going to be down around 15% again in the second quarter, or the first quarter.

And I think we'll probably be down around 10% in that second quarter, and then we'll start getting better as we go forward. But we're going to be down somewhere around 3%, 4%, 5% for the whole year in China. So it is going to be a tough year. I'm not looking for any sharp bounce back there. I agree with you..

Scott Reed Davis - Barclays Capital, Inc.

And just as a follow up, I mean, is that the region? I mean, you cited some price risk versus raws next year.

I mean, is that the region where you are the most concerned about excess capacity and price?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I'm not concerned about that is much there. My price risk comes into play in the large global projects where monies are being spent. There are projects being done out there. And clearly the pricing risks will come in on those projects. And you clearly are trying to protect your customer base. You're trying to protect something.

So that's where I would see the pricing pressures on the industrial side. On the commercial side, the Commercial & Residential, I would say Asia would give me the most price pressures. But I also typically have the most cost opportunities there too.

So my price pressures, I don't worry about China next year as much as I worry about the big global projects. There are not that many out there, and people are going to be hungry fighting for those projects..

Scott Reed Davis - Barclays Capital, Inc.

Okay. Good color. Good luck, guys. Thank you..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Take care, Scott. All the best to you..

Operator

And next we'll go to Gautam Khanna with Cowen & Company..

Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co. LLC

Yes.

David, to follow up on that last comment you made, have you seen any of this price pressure yet in the orders you have been recording? Or is that something that's still on the comp?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

We see it today, and we have continued to see it. You know, our net material inflation has clearly been helping us from an ops (38:01) standpoint, because the inflation environment we've been feeling for the last three years has been negative on materials, so that's helped us.

But at the same time, I've had three years of what I would call it, negative price. I think that the pricing pressures has already happen on the bidding. Our customer base knows that the global marketplace is a challenge. They know that commodity prices have come down and they are utilizing that. And obviously, we work that very hard.

We're aware of that. And for my cost structure standpoint, and we've been able to make that up, but I would say we will probably have in the end, when we add up all the numbers next year, my gut tells me we have a slightly negative net price material inflation to hit us a little bit. Not big, but slightly.

I just think it's going to be there as we all work this issue for the next six months or seven months to get through this transition. So it's there, and I'm openly talking about it, and it's happening, so that's what's going on..

Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co. LLC

Okay.

And then you already addressed the China question, but I was just curious, elsewhere are there any regions where you're actually worried about another leg down, a more significant step down in demand where things could get substantially worse?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

The only place I see right now on the markets is we're already seeing the impact in Eastern Europe and Russia. We've already seen that.

I'm a little bit worried in the Middle East as our big Middle Eastern customers both in oil and gas and petrochemical investments, if they cut back even more to protect their cash flow for various reasons, whatever they need the money for.

So I would say that market for us, you're talking about a $1 billion marketplace, I would say that has the biggest risk at this point in time. I think we've taken a big hit in Latin America and Brazil, Mexico. I still think that will be negative next year, but I think we've taken a big hit. My concern is the Middle East.

I think there's a risk for a bigger down than we're planning. We're planning it down, but I think it could be a bigger one..

Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co. LLC

Got it. And one last one.

At Climate Tech, do you expect to start to comp positively as early as the March quarter as you lap this year 2014 pre-build? Or when do expect that business to start to see positive?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I would expect the comps to turn positive in the second quarter..

Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co. LLC

Okay..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

We watch our customer base report, and we know they are working through that inventory. They have done a great job of managing that inventory, and getting it out and getting the sales. So I would say we'll have a negative first quarter, and then we'll start comping more favorable in that second quarter..

Gautam Khanna - Cowen & Co. LLC

Okay. Thanks a lot, guys..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome. Take care. Have a good afternoon..

Operator

And next we will go to Nigel Coe with Morgan Stanley..

Nigel Coe - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC

Thanks. Good afternoon, Dave. So you mentioned something very interesting. I think when you mentioned that the bulk of the channel destock is behind you, I think you were talking about China specifically.

Could you maybe just broaden that out in terms of what you're seeing globally on inventory destock and when you think that might be behind you?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

My inventories in Europe are – I look at our channel and it's pretty good. Because of the channel partners and the channel you sell into, money was hard to come by so the European channel's in pretty good shape. I look at my channel in North America, I would say it's in decent shape right now in the businesses we sell into.

The last piece of this working through would be the climate areas is all the pre-build we have there. But I would say the channel is in decent shape. Probably as we get through this calendar year, it will be in really good shape. And so we saw the inventories being built and people anticipated the second half being stronger.

We saw the destocking happen this quarter. I think the plan in, we have built into our plan for this quarter where underlying sales might be down say 10%. I think that will work its way through it on the destock from my perspective, as I see the channels..

Nigel Coe - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC

Okay.

So as we get into calendar 2016, that should be behind us?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, I would say yes, unless you had a step down and overall a recessionary environment. Right now, I think people are planning for very, very, very low growth and they're getting their inventories down and they're working it very hard. It's the same thing we've been doing as a company here.

I'd say we have one more quarter basically of getting our inventories down, and then typically we're no different than the global distribution channel anyway. So I think that's exactly right..

Nigel Coe - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC

Okay. Very helpful. And then just in a similar vein, Dave, clearly the MRO spending is still pretty tight with the oil and gas companies.

Any sense on when we might start to see some of that action coming through?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I don't think you'll see any action in that space until the second half of calendar year 2016. That's why I think Process will be down in growth next year..

Nigel Coe - Morgan Stanley & Co. LLC

Okay. Thanks, Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome..

Operator

And our next question comes from Shannon O'Callaghan with UBS..

Shannon O'Callaghan - UBS Securities LLC

Good afternoon..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Shannon..

Shannon O'Callaghan - UBS Securities LLC

Hey, Dave, just a follow up on the Climate. So in terms of it returning to growth, when you get past the SEER comps, which make sense, but China was down 27% Climate.

I mean, is that going to be an offset to that, or can you explain a little bit what you're seeing in Climate in China right now?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Well, Climate had a very strong first half of the year in China as they built inventory up in the channel, going back to one of the previous questions. And they're quickly taking it out right now. So I think what will happen is the typical plan in China is they over-build, they take it back down, and then they'll start building back up again.

So I would expect that China would start seeing some improved second half numbers, most likely still negative for the first two or three quarters, and then getting up and positive in that fourth quarter. So the destocking is still underway. I think the major destocking will be done by the end of that first quarter in China..

Shannon O'Callaghan - UBS Securities LLC

Okay. And then just obviously the pressure is significant now just sort of across the business and a lot of restructuring to do. But typically when times are difficult like this, Emerson likes to invest and take share and come out of the downturn even stronger.

I mean is that happening, or are there examples you would give sort of across the portfolio where you feel like you're playing offense even though there's obviously a lot of restructuring to do as well?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

We are continuing to play offense. I will share a lot with you in February on this issue. We are not cutting back in certain strategic areas where we think we have unique opportunities to gain share.

So yes, we are restructuring, but we're restructuring in an area and areas that we feel that are not strategic relative to gaining that growth opportunities. And so we're continuing to invest and restructure Emerson. Very good at this gas pedal and brake at the same time.

And so we're playing that game because what we want to do is come out of this and continue to grow our core markets in particular on the two strategic businesses we're going to have when we finish this in 2016. So the board has been keenly interested and tuned to what you're saying there.

They do not want us to get to the point that we're cutting really strategic growth opportunities and opportunities we see out there. So we're working it very hard. We'll share some ideas with you in February.

But suffice it to say that our game plan is get the costs down, which we are right now very quickly, and then take advantage of those opportunities when they come back at us..

Shannon O'Callaghan - UBS Securities LLC

Okay. Great. Thanks..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Thank you very much..

Operator

And next we'll go to Robert McCarthy with Stifel..

Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Good afternoon, Dave.

How are you doing?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Bob..

Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Yeah, so I guess the first question I'd have is with respect to kind of monthly order trends. And obviously, you're not disclosing those anymore but you're still tracking them.

Could you speak to what kind of month you would see as kind of critical to think about whether we would see the kind of growth that you're talking about for the plan for 2016 versus potentially something worse? In other words, when does that comp kind of appear in terms of the backlog, in terms of the order trends where you can declare victory or think about something incrementally worse?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Okay.

First of all, we will continue to disclose our orders once a quarter, and so the next time where we disclose will be in?.

Craig M. Rossman - Emerson Electric Co.

December..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

December. So we will be putting orders out there. This month-to-month stuff, given that we're the only one doing it, it was kind of crazy. We will disclose it in December, and then we'll true them up in February when we report the quarter. So you'll still get access to them.

But what I'm looking at as I map out the year, I just unloaded, or unfolded for you all on the phone earlier is what I expect is that we should see on a comp basis, in order for us to have second half underlying sales growth, I have to see my order pace start getting above that line, across that line, the zero line as we get out of that second quarter.

So when we report orders in the end of, let's say the March quarter, the March timeframe, you should start seeing that number approaching that 0% range.

And if not, and if it's still negative 5% or 6% then we'll go back to the conversation I had earlier that we will not see the positive recovery in that third quarter, and then we'll have a sixth down underlying sales quarter. So that's the benchmark you need to look at..

Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Understood.

And then just moving to Process Management and just given what you've seen – this has been picked over a little bit – but given what you've seen about what you expect in terms of behavior across the board in terms of potential cuts, and you mentioned the Middle East as a potential negative there, do you feel like you have a good sense that we're going to see a bottom here and the implications for margins here? In other words what is baked into your current plan?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I think right now we expect the market we see today is going to continue to be weak in front of us for at least two quarters. That's what's baked into our plan. And then some stability, and we will have down underlying sales in the year of 2016. The restructuring effort is based on down underlying sales.

I believe I've talked about down 3%, 4%, 5% with process underlying sales. And so we baked in that type of down, say down 5% underlying sales, into the cost expectations in trying to get the restructuring done so we can try to deliver improved profitability in 2016 and continue to make the strategic investments we need to make.

So I expect Process to be facing some pretty challenging headwinds for the next couple quarters. We will start seeing, as I get out in February or I get in January and talking to various investors, I'll be able to start seeing some of the early parts of process on the MRO, the instrumentation side.

If I start seeing that improve, that will give me a good feeling that we've reached that bottom and we have a clear visibility to that second half as we leave 2016..

Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

The final question real quick is just in terms of the Network Power, in terms of this parallel process, I mean obviously there's limits as to what you could say about it. But I guess how do you think about the decision around price, timing, etc. versus going the spin route versus a potential sale to a strategic.

I mean what are kind of the qualitative factors that you are stressing? Is it speed in terms of exit or is it valuation? How should we think about it?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

From my perspective – I have one perspective. It's called valuation, producer responsibility to my shareholders. Maximize the value for my shareholders as I look at, and the board looks at do we do a spin versus if we have a strategic alternative with a buyer coming in and asking us.

That will be the key issue for me, is strategic valuation for my shareholder. If we think we can make more money for my shareholder doing a spin versus a sale then we'll go that route or vice versa.

If we're going to have this done by the end of this fiscal year, then we'll have to make this decision sometime in late spring, which way, we going to go left or are we going to go right. And so that's the type of timeframe that we're heading on. We just reviewed this with the board, the timeline and the approaches and keep them up to speed.

But that is the decision making process. It's all about maximizing the value for my shareholder, which I am one of..

Robert Paul McCarthy - Stifel, Nicolaus & Co., Inc.

Thanks for your time, Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome..

Operator

And next we'll go to Jeffrey Sprague with Vertical Research Partners..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Thank you. Good afternoon, Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Jeff..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Hey, one quick point of clarification before my question. You said to an earlier question you've had three years of negative price.

Did you mean three years of negative costs?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

No, I think the price. If you look at the underlying pricing of our, I believe we've reported three years of negative pricing as a company..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Okay..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

This has been unusual. And we're about to go into the fourth year, I think with 2016. Even though the Fed is giving free money to everybody, the environment out there has basically been pretty tough in overall pricing of a total company – this is total company.

And so I've had negative pricing basically, and net material inflation's helped us protect our profitability. And I think that we're going to see that next year, I think the negative pricing will be slightly higher but my net material inflation will be higher because of what opportunities are out there.

But that's what I see and that's the type of market the industrial world has been facing for a while..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Right. But you were not in the so-called red in 2015 but you will be in 2016, by your estimation..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Right now we're not red. I think there's a good chance that we could have a slight red to that, Jeff, to be honest. My gut right now, that's all it is. I play this by feel. I know the pricing environments out there, I know the net material environments out there.

You could have a couple of things go a wrong way and you could have a slight negative net material price pressure, but it's going to be very, very slight if at all..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

The main thing I wanted to touch on is cash. We haven't really talked about that yet on the call other than the opening remarks. So historically, your cash flow has actually been a lot less cyclical than your earnings, not surprisingly.

We didn't really see that play out in 2015, and you made a comment about getting the balance sheet ironed out by Q2 of next year. Obviously you had the SEER build and all that going on.

Can you just give us the lay of the land on how you expect cash and kind of the working capital dynamics to play out for next year?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, historically, we get hit like we got hit in the second half of the year – typically it takes us two to three quarters once that hit happens. So we had a very good fourth quarter from a cash flow standpoint.

I'm starting to see that if I look the overall inventory levels and I look at where we sit at this point in time, trade working capital is now starting to get back into line where should be, where the normal progression to see what I would call the healthy,. what I look at the 11% to 14% percent of sales of cash flow.

But I think right now we're in pretty good shape. It was a tough year last year. We also had the extraordinary thing last year, we had some tax payments that we had to make in the sale of the divestiture which goes to the cash flow which mucks that up a little bit. But overall – let me see your calculator there.

As I look at the cash flow last year, we did $3 billion – operating cash flow we did $3 billion, and we had $22.3 billion of sales, $23.3 billion of sales. So we were around 13.4%. I look at next year, we're going to be up around that 14%, so we are moving back up to where we need to be next year. I think it's well under our control.

I think Frank and Ed Purvis did a good job and got the businesses focused, and we've pretty well got a forecast in front of us right now that makes sense, which I laid out to you and that allows us to really work that balance sheet..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

And in that construct, Dave, are you including the cash repatriation you are expecting from Network Power in it?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

No, we're not. That will unfold – I mean first of all, I mean that cash flow is already inside the company. It's been earned over the years, but we have not incorporated movement of cash flow, which is quite significant from both the sale/spin of Network Power and/or the Leroy-Somer CT. So there's going to be some cash flow moving around.

We will be repatriating cash flow in 2016 and probably early 2017 on this whole process, which would bring to money back into the United States and we'll end up paying the taxes..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

And then just one last one, same topic, is just the cash costs of what you're trying to execute in the repositioning, you've got this $300 million to $400 million marker? I am assuming some of that might just be asset impairments and the like.

Can you size that for us?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

No. If we had an impairment, we would have to take the impairment now, Jeff. The accounting is pretty straightforward. If I thought that we were going to have an impairment, I would have to take it now. The cash flow that you saw, that number is what we're going to spend on transaction growth.

Some of it's tax, some of it's advisors, and that's true cash flow that's going out. There will be another bit of cash invested in some of the investments we may have to make in IT, with some the investments we have to make in other areas, but that's not a big number overall.

Probably we're looking at another $100 million, $150 million of additional cash investments that we might have to make on top of the expense spend, to the point you're getting at..

Jeffrey T. Sprague - Vertical Research Partners LLC

Okay. Great. I appreciate it, Dave. Thanks..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Okay, you're welcome. Thank you, Jeff..

Operator

And next we'll go to Christopher Glynn with Oppenheimer..

Christopher D. Glynn - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Thanks. Just wanted to dive into understanding another one of the numbers used, the $250 million benefit to the global cost structure.

Is that just the savings or does that also incorporate some of the benefit from lower restructuring expense?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

It's the savings, just the savings..

Christopher D. Glynn - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Okay.

So there's another tailwind from the lower expense, then?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

So we're trying to protect our operating profitability at around that 17% range despite the fact that our sales will be down again next year on top of this year. So that's what we're trying to protect right now..

Christopher D. Glynn - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Okay.

And then from a kind of very broad high level view on the energy markets, how is consolidation phase of that cycle shaping up from your perspective, either on the supply chain where you play or in the producer complex? And is that kind of as expected so far, or how is that staging up?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

On the customer base, I think it's still early. There is some action going on right now, but I still think there's more to come based on what unfolds and when you see that, when you see what happens to the pricing, the price and the demand out there. From our perspective as a supplier in the marketplace, I think it's really early.

I think you'll start seeing more opportunities happening in 2016 and maybe even all the way into 2017. Early stages still..

Christopher D. Glynn - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. (Broker)

Okay. Thanks..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome..

Operator

And next we'll go to Rich Kwas with Wells Fargo Securities..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Hey. Good afternoon, Dave..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon, Rich..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Industrial Automation, should we think as it's currently constituted, should we think of margin improvement similar to the cadence in Process that you're anticipating on a year-over-year basis? I know you didn't do as much restructuring last year in IA, but just how should we think about that?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yeah, we are right now, because of our Industrial Automation, the makeup of where those assets fit, and as we said, there's a lot more international. So there is a lot more being done here in the first and second quarter.

But we do anticipate I mean margin improvement next year from the standpoint of what's been accomplished and also what we're doing regarding executing right now here in the first quarter. So do we anticipate, we actually do anticipate underlying improvement and margin improvement in Industrial Automation.

I do not expect the top line growth to be as negatively impacted as the Process as these guys have gone through a lot of the shake-out and build-out. And so, their basic day-to-day business will stabilize. So I think that the Industrial Automation will face a little bit better top line marketplace, not quite as negative.

And their restructuring they've got done will help them pick up their profitability in fiscal 2016..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

And that will be back half weighted, probably more so?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes. Yes. That's a good way to think about it..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Okay. All right. And then just on US construction, you had a comment there for C&RS around you good construction markets. It sounds like you think resi and non-res are still going to be pretty good in 2016.

What's your latest on that considering there has been some moving data points out there on the macro front?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I think that resi, residential market, will continue to progress at a good pace. The way I look at the resi, I look at the GFI, it's been the last couple quarters, it's been 8%, 9%. And I think that's going to continue to be that 8%, 9%, 10%. I personally think that the non-res investments on the gross fixed investment have been trending downward.

I think that trend will continue to come downwards and stabilize in the low single digits. It'll still be positive, but I still think that the trend line is not up but down, even though I think that people think that it will turn around in the second half of 2016, I am not of that opinion.

Our forecast is built on the fact that it doesn't, it bottoms out and stays there..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Is that energy contagion influenced in your view?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, it is. Yes, it is energy contagion..

Richard Kwas - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Okay. Great, thank you..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, I think it's..

Operator

And next we'll go to Steve Tusa with JPMorgan..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Hey. Good afternoon..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Good afternoon..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

So you said $300 million to $400 million in the cost.

Does that include the assumed taxes you would pay on the, not the Network Power stuff, but the other stuff you're selling out of Industrial Automation? Or is that a different bucket?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Yes, we have it, if we sell the assets of Leroy-Somer CT, then and we have a tax gain, that will be separate based on what we sell the price for. That's not included in the numbers. What we're talking about is all the reorganization of trying to get these assets repositioned either for a spin or a sale, a network and also reposition for L-S CT.

So that does not include that. So if we get a good value for the sale of Leroy-Somer CT, then we'll have some incremental taxes, but we'll also obviously have a cash and a gain at the same time, too..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Can we use the Power Transmission sale as kind of a guide for the book value dynamics on those businesses? Or was there something unique about the taxes that you paid on that divestiture?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

I think that this asset, people do want this asset. It is a unique asset from the standpoint there's a couple things that will make it different. One of them being that you have, the alternate business has a strategic, one large strategic customer. I think that I don't see the multiple, or the same type of multiple.

Although it will still be a good multiple, it will not be the same dynamics that we had. And we bought these assets later in say the life of Emerson. The Power Transmission assets were bought, of lot of it was bought in the 1960s and 1970s, a little bit in the 1980s.

But if you look at Leroy-Somer, that acquisition was done in 1989 and then a lot of the alternate business was done later, say in the 1990s and the 2000 time period. So I'd say the basis is probably higher..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Okay. And then one last quick one, just on the Network Power side. I look at the EBIT contribution and the EBITDA contribution, and it looks to be, I don't know, around like 10% to 12% of the total. But a few people I've talked to say that the free cash flow generation of that business is higher than average.

It outpunches its weight relative to EBITDA and profit.

Is that correct? Is there something unique about their ability to generate cash over and above what they do on EBIT versus the other segments for any particular reason?.

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Well, one of the things, issues is on the Network Power businesses, there's amortization going on there which is not cash flow. So they do have because of that. So what you see, there is good cash flow bent generation. You're exactly right, Steve. There's good cash flow generation, better than you normally see, because there's amortization.

It is a good cash flow generation business..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Okay..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

So we take that into consideration when we look at the total (63:31). It is different than most people would think because of that issue. You're exactly right..

Charles Stephen Tusa - JPMorgan Securities LLC

Right. That makes a lot of sense. Thanks a lot..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

You're welcome.

With that, is that it?.

Operator

We have no further questions..

David N. Farr - Emerson Electric Co.

Okay. Thank you. I want to thank everybody for calling today. Good questions, and I appreciate your input and support. And I tried to give you a little bit more clarity on what we see here for the next two to three quarters. Hopefully you have a better understanding for that.

Look forward to meeting with you in Texas, and I guarantee, you will not have a foot of snow in Texas like we had a foot of snow in Boston a couple years ago. But I will look forward to meeting you down there, and I wish you well and have a safe holiday and Thanksgiving vacations. Take care now. Bye..

Operator

And that will conclude today's conference call. Thank you everyone for your participation..

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