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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2024 - Q1
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Pacasmayo's First Quarter 2024 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode and please note that this call is being recorded. At the conclusion of our prepared remarks, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.

I would now like to introduce your host for today's call Mrs. Claudia Bustamante, Investor Relations Manager. Mrs. Bustamante, you may begin..

Claudia Bustamante Head of Investor Relations

Thank you Tim. Good morning everyone. Joining me on the call today is Mr. Humberto Nadal, our Chief Executive Officer; and Mr. Manuel Ferreyros, our Chief Financial Officer. Mr. Nadal will begin our call with an overview of the quarter, focusing primarily on our strategic outlook for the short and medium-term. Mr.

Ferreyros will then follow with additional commentary on our financial results. We'll then turn the call over to your questions. Please note, that this call will include certain forward-looking statements.

These statements are related to expectations, beliefs, projections, trends and other matters that are not historical facts and are therefore subject to risks and uncertainties that might affect future events or results. Descriptions of these risks are set forth in the company's regulatory filings. With that, I'd now like to turn the call over to Mr.

Humberto.

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

artificial intelligence and machine learning. New technologies will bring a wide variety of opportunities and there is no doubt that early adopters will be the biggest beneficiaries. And we intend to be one. As a company, we're focusing on both developing and adopting digital tools and reinforcing the culture to adopt it.

As I mentioned earlier, one of the ways in which we look to gain traction on the building solutions market is by doing prospection work.

This is mostly focused on looking for infrastructure opportunities in the initial phase, so we can get involved in the definition of materials required, hence creating and capturing more value for our building solutions. We have recently developed a model that uses AI to identify all of the pilot infrastructure projects in our area of influence.

The robot developed in this project can capture the information and feed it into a large database, allowing the team to focus on the actual development of a solution instead of spending valuable time scouting for projects.

Moreover, this tool generates valuable information to guide our data-driven analysis and with data to enhance our portfolio of products and services – and tailored to the needs of our customer. I will now turn the call over to Manuel to go into more detailed financials.

Manuel?.

Manuel Ferreyros Vice President of Administration & Finance and Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Humberto. Good morning, everyone. As Humberto mentioned, our first quarter 2024 revenues were affected by a decrease in demand, reaching PEN476.5 million, a slight decrease of 0.7% when compared to the same period of last year.

However, the gross profit increased, achieving PEN173.9 million, an 8.3% increase when compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to reduced production costs as we maximized the use of our most efficient kilns and benefit from lower cost of raw material.

The consolidated EBITDA was PEN132.8 million this quarter, a 10% increase when compared to the first quarter of 2023. And EBITDA margin was 27.9%, a 2.8 percentage point increase when compared to the first quarter of 2023. Turning to operation expenses.

Administrative expenses for the first quarter of 2024 remained in line with those of the first quarter of 2023.

Selling expenses during this quarter increased 9.1% when compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to increase in personnel expenses, in line with inflation as well as software and licenses and higher provision for the doubtful payment. Moving on to the different segments.

Sales of cement decreased 4.6% this quarter when compared to the same period of 2023, mainly due to decreased sales volume in the self-construction segment, mainly because of the negative -- effects as well as low levels of private and public investments.

Nonetheless, gross margin increased 5.2 percentage points in this quarter compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to the lower clinker production costs associated to the use of most efficient kilns, as well as the lower cost of coal.

During this quarter, concrete, pavement and mortar sales performed very well, increasing 73.8% compared -- when compared to the first quarter of last year. This increase was mainly due to the increased sales of pavement for the Piura Airport.

Gross margin decreased by 2.5 percentage points this quarter when compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to changes in the composition of our sales portfolio. Finally, the net profit increased 13.8% this quarter when compared to the same period of last year, mainly due to the operational efficiencies mentioned above.

In terms of debt, our net debt-to-EBITDA ratio was 3.2 times, which is a level we expect to reduce in the future. To summarize this quarter's results, show our ability to manage costs and focus on profitability when faced with challenges on the demand side. We are confident that we will continue delivering positive results during the rest of the year.

Operator, can now we please open the floor for questions?.

Operator

Yes. Thank you, Manuel. We will now move to the question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Natalia Leo from JPMorgan. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Natalia Leo

Thank you. Hi, everyone. Thank you so much for taking my question. I actually have two. So I was wondering, if you could tell us a bit more on your expectations for volumes for the full year. I remember last quarter you mentioned a low single-digit increase.

But just wondering, if maybe your expectations are down a bit considering how they were in this quarter, so maybe flat or down. And the other one was on gross margins. So, you had like 44% gross margin this quarter.

Just to understand if that's the normalized level you expect for the full year, or should it be closer to the 47% that we saw in the fourth quarter? Thank you..

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you for the question. The first part of the question, I mean, we have always experienced seasonality in our demand and we remain confident that, especially public expenses should pick up in the second semester of this year. We also think that the security issue should be tackled in the coming months.

So yeah, we think -- we are optimistic that the second semester this year will bring better volumes to the table and that should counteract the decrease in volume we had on the first part of the year. And concerning margins, we think that the margins we mentioned today in this call are the ones that should be sustainable looking into the future..

Natalia Leo

Great. Thank you. If I could just follow-up.

So do you see volumes increasing sequentially in the second half of the year?.

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, that's the case. I mean, if you see our last four, five years it's usually the case and we think this year there's no reason why it should be different..

Natalia Leo

Thank you..

Operator

Okay. Thank you. Our next question comes from Marcelo Furlan from Itaú. Please go ahead..

Marcelo Furlan

Yes. Hi, everyone. Good morning.

Can you hear me?.

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, we can hear you..

Marcelo Furlan

Okay. Thank you. So, my question is related to capital allocation. I mean, following the conclusion of the kiln number four last year, now the company doesn't have any major projects underway.

So I would like to know in terms of capital allocation if you're guys thinking about distributing dividend to shareholders, thinking on shareholders going forward. And also to the financial leverage you guys had this 3.2 times in financial leverage.

So if you guys have plan to decrease the financial leverage going forward and what would be a sustainable financial leverage for the company? So these are my questions. Thank you..

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. The first part of your question of, I mean the level of dividend is for the Board to decide. With that being said and me being part of the Board, I mean, the idea philosophically has always been that the leftover cash should go to shareholders. I think over the last year we've had a very consistent dividend policy.

And the way we look at it right now, I mean, probably that consistency will go on towards the end of this year. And regarding the leverage level, as you know, we finished kiln number four last year. We don't foresee any substantial CapEx investments in the coming future.

We have structured our debt in a way that we have a club deal with two main banks in Peru and we're going to be lowering the debt over the next four, five years according to that club deal with the banks..

Marcelo Furlan

Okay. Thank you so much guys..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next question is a text question from David Cuenca from Compass Group. David asks, thanks for the presentation. I would like to know if you have some insights about prices of cement for this year and maybe for next year, and if you have some info about other projects like the Piura Airport? Thank you..

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. We've been monitoring carefully the price situation. And if you see even though our cement sales in terms of the tons are lower, our revenues remained almost flat. And I think we've had a very successful managing of prices. We will continue to monitor the situation.

It's always a fine line between keeping a substantial market share at the same time profitability. So that is just an ongoing situation. We're always going to look for way to maximize profits. And in the case of the question about the Piura project, I mean there's some more airports coming down the line not this year, but the coming few years.

We are strongly convinced like I mentioned in my speech that the learning curve with the Piura Airport will help us in the other airports. Also Chavimochic next phase will -- should go ahead in probably towards the end of the year.

There's a G2G government agreement between Peru and Canada and that should go -- probably give green light to that construction project. Those are the two main things I think. Other than that, we still think that the private investment remains pretty low..

Operator

Great. Thank you Humberto. We also have a question, a text question from Marco Mejia from Kallpa who asks, could you give us please some insights about coal prices? Thank you..

Manuel Ferreyros Vice President of Administration & Finance and Chief Financial Officer

Hello, Marco. Yes. Coal prices now are stable as a range I would say around PEN250 per ton. So we expect the stable price for at least this year..

Operator

Okay. Thank you. [Operator Instructions] I'm not seeing any more questions. So perhaps I can hand it back to Humberto for closing remarks..

Humberto Nadal Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you. As I say our current political and financial market conditions have unfortunately I may add made it less attractive to invest in Latin American companies. That being said, we remain firm believers in the great potential that both our company and our country hold for the future.

The true test of a successful company strategy comes during those times when market conditions are least favorable. And I think we have been consistently delivering very good results over the last years.

We will continue to focus on our strategic goals, reinforcing digital transformation, developing and empowering more and more our talent and operating our business responsibly.

By doing this, we are absolutely certain that we will not only continue delivering positive results today, but be ready to reap further benefits when market conditions improve. Thanks everybody for renewed interest in our company. And as always, we remain at your disposal if you have any questions in the future. Thank you very much..

Operator

That concludes the call for today. Thank you and have a nice day..

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