Good afternoon. Thank you for attending the Archer Aviation Q1 2023 Quarterly Results Call. My name is Matt, and I'll be your moderator for today's call. All lines will be muted during the presentation portion of the call with an opportunity for questions-and-answers at the end.
[Operator Instructions] I would now like to pass the conference over to our host, Andy Missan, Chief Legal Officer of Archer. Please go ahead..
Thank you. Good afternoon, and welcome to Archer's first quarter 2023 conference call. Joining me today are Adam Goldstein, our Founder and CEO; Tom Muniz, our COO; and Mark Mesler, our CFO. Please note that during today's call, we will be making forward-looking statements.
These statements involve risks and uncertainties that may cause actual results to differ materially from those contemplated by the forward-looking statements. For more information about these risks and uncertainties, please refer to our SEC filings, including the risk factors discussed in our most recently filed annual report on Form 10-K.
Any forward-looking statements that we make on this call are based on assumptions as of today, and we undertake no obligation to update these statements as a result of new information or future events. During this call, we may present both GAAP and non-GAAP financial measures.
A reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP measures is included in our shareholder letter posted on our IR website. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Adam.
Adam?.
technology, certification, manufacturing and commercial operations. Alongside, all of the great work our teams are doing on the manufacturing front, we continue to mature our commercial operations build out. This quarter, we announced our plans to launch UAM operations in another city, a key milestone in our go-to-market strategy.
We announced the City of Chicago as our next airport to city center route, and we saw huge enthusiasm and support across the board.
The announcement was in close coordination with the City of Chicago, the Chicago Department of Aviation, the State of Illinois, and ComEd, the utility in Chicago, which is indicative of their view that this is an incredible step forward for Chicago and will be a showcase for the future of sustainable travel.
We are seeing high levels of interest from other municipalities all over the country for UAM solutions that can address both traffic issues and sustainability commitments. The Chicago announcement continues the expansion of our existing partnership with United, following our announcement of a Manhattan to Newark route last year.
These two routes represent important steps in building out our trunk and branch strategy as we enter our foundational markets, meaning that we start with the highest traffic, highest demand routes and will expand our UAM network outward over time.
The great news is that our approach aligns nicely to the UAM Concept of Operations 2.0 the FAA and NASA announced last week. As we've talked about commercialization over the past several quarters, we focused on the civilian use cases for our Midnight aircraft.
But we've also been working closely with the Department of Defense on several programs and have been in talks about significantly expanding our relationship.
As our Midnight aircraft progresses towards commercialization, based on its performance specifications, including its payload, the Department of Defense has expressed strong interest in using the aircraft for non-kinetic use cases, such as rescue operations and for supply chain logistics.
In support of these efforts, just yesterday, we announced the formation of a Government Services Advisory Board with six appointees. These six highly-decorated and distinguished military leaders represent the United States Air Force, Navy and Army.
We are extremely fortunate to have this significant level of leadership and experience onboard and supporting Archer. This advisory board will further build on our expertise and perspectives of U.S. Federal Government programs and procurement strategies to allow us to more fully engage with U.S.
government agencies to explore additional opportunities to commercialize eVTOL aircraft. Before I turn it over to Tom to give more detailed updates on our technology and certification progress, I'd like to note that Archer will be participating prominently in the Paris Air Show in June as the featured eVTOL aircraft manufacturer.
Paris Air Show is the premier global aviation event of the year, featuring the world's most impressive aircraft, while serving as a platform for the aviation industry to come together and provide thought leadership on the direction of the industry.
As such, our Midnight aircraft will be making its European debut and several of our executives will be speaking on panels that are focused on sharing our vision for the commercialization of our industry.
If you're coming to the Paris Air Show, I want to invite you to stop by Archer's location to meet our team and see Midnight for yourself; it's truly a memorable experience. I'll now turn it over to Tom..
test labs, powertrain manufacturing, and aircraft final assembly. For testing, the facility contains roughly a dozen specially designed laboratories, to conduct specific component and system testing to support both engineering validation and "for credit" certification testing of all the systems on the Midnight aircraft.
This facility also has a significant amount of space allocated to powertrain manufacturing with partially automated assembly lines for our proprietary battery packs and electric engines. As we speak, lab and manufacturing equipment such as robots for our battery pack production line are being installed and commissioned.
Lastly, there's an aircraft final assembly area that can support the production of tens of aircraft per year. This is where we will assemble the initial fleet of conforming Midnight aircraft later this year that will be used in "for credit" certification testing next year.
In parallel, our team has been hard at work alongside a large, very experienced team from Stellantis on the production system development for our high volume facility in Georgia.
If you walk around to the Archer office here in San Jose, you'll see many Stellantis employees with invaluable experience from their brands like Jeep, working side by side with Archer team.
The material flow and layout of that facility along with the detailed building, mechanical, electrical, and plumbing design is now mature, and construction is on track for occupancy in 2024 and on track to support our production ramp for commercialization in 2025.
When it comes to manufacturing, we are confident that we are the most advanced eVTOL company in the world, due in large part to our strategy to focus not just on design for certification, but also on designing for mass manufacturing. No other eVTOL company has even announced that they've selected a site for a high volume facility.
I just want to take a moment to thank the tremendous effort both our team and the Stellantis team has put in. There is no replacement for hardware and the teams continue to step up every day as we're ready for commercialization. And with that, I'll hand it over to Mark to discuss the financials for the quarter..
Thanks, Tom. While Adam and Tom highlighted the great progress we are making on our efforts to commercialize in 2025, it's important to note that we are doing so in a financially disciplined manner.
To commercialize this industry in any meaningful way, we must not only receive type certification of our aircraft, but also have a mature supply base and manufacturing capabilities that will allow us to launch this industry and capture the forecast of demand for sustainable urban air mobility.
I would like to recognize the tremendous work and support we are getting from our foundational suppliers. They are moving and innovating at a pace that is allowing us to track to our commercialization efforts in 2025. We cannot achieve that goal without their hard work and commitment to this new industry and Archer.
As we continue to progress our manufacturing operations and mature our commercialization efforts, we also remain focused on maintaining a healthy cash runway.
We get questions every quarter about the liquidity necessary to get to commercialization, and we've been very consistent with communicating our comfort around being sufficiently capitalized to get there. We ended Q1 '23 with $450 million of cash and short-term investments on our balance sheet.
Additionally, as we discussed in detail last quarter, Stellantis has committed $150 million of equity capital that we can draw upon between now and the end of 2024 in three tranches as we needed based on us achieving certain milestones, giving us a total of around $600 million.
We structured that agreement in order to give us flexibility as to when we take the investment in an effort to minimize potential dilution to our shareholder base.
It's also worth revisiting the fact that we previously announced an LOI with Synovus, our banking partner in Georgia, to finance our factory build in Covington, Georgia and the equipment that we will deploy there.
Our intent is that we will enter into a finance facility with Synovus later this year, it will cover nearly all the cost of construction of the Covington facility, minimizing the near-term impact to our cash. We'll keep you posted as that progresses.
As you can see, we are being very thoughtful about how we manage our liquidity and potential shareholder dilution. Recall that we also have a 200 unit aircraft purchase agreement with United with an option for them to take another 100 aircraft. To date, they have provided a $10 million pre delivery payment for the first 100 aircraft.
As we progress further through the aircraft certification program, we expect that we will agree upon and receive additional pre delivery payments from United. Beyond these previously announced arrangements, Stellantis and United remained committed to helping Archer get to commercial operations in 2025.
We are very fortunate to have the continued support of these two strategic partners and investors. As I have discussed in the past, we have taken and continue to take proactive measures to manage our cash flow and optimize our expenses to achieve our program milestones and company goals.
Through our rigorous budgeting and forecasting process, we are constantly reviewing our financial requirements to support our path to commercialization and making necessary adjustments to ensure that we are maximizing our resources and operating efficiently.
We are committed to delivering on the promise of bringing UAM to market at scale in a thoughtful, financially disciplined manner. We are confident we have the right strategy to do so. Now, on to our financial performance for Q1 '23. Our non-GAAP total operating expenses were $80 million, right at the midpoint of our estimates range.
This led to an adjusted EBITDA loss $79 million. The preponderance of our operating expenses continued to be investments in headcount and engineering development expenses to build and test our Midnight aircraft.
We are also making investments in non-recurring expenses at vendors for the buildout of our supply base to manufacture conforming components from Midnight over the long term, as well as investing in the parts for our development testing and six conforming aircraft that we will begin building later this year, and will be used for "in credit" testing with the FAA as part of our certification program.
The investments in non-recurring costs and parts were approximately $16 million for the quarter. As I've discussed last quarter, these costs generally should not persist beyond 2023.
On a GAAP basis, total operating expenses for Q1 '23 were $112 million, which included $25.7 million of stock-based compensation and $6.3 million of warrant expenses for our warrants issued to United and Stellantis. These results were slightly below the midpoint of our estimates range of $115 million.
We exited the quarter with $450 million of cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments on our balance sheet. We used $77 million in cash for the quarter, primarily to invest in the $80 million of non-GAAP operating expenses and $11.4 million of capital expenses, partially offset by working capital timing.
The investments we are making now are laying the foundation necessary to yield long-term value for Archer's shareholders, including continued development of Midnight, establishing our long-term supply base for conforming parts for Midnight, parts for our six conforming aircraft that we will use in "for credit" testing with the FAA, our San Jose, California integrated test lab and manufacturing facility and our Covington, Georgia facility.
Our ending cash balance coupled with the potential $150 million in equity capital from Stellantis, I previously discussed, provides us with potential liquidity of $600 million to get through to commercialization in 2025. Finally, let's take a look at our Q2 '23 estimates for spending, which are consistent with our Q1 '23 levels.
We anticipate total GAAP operating expense of $110 million to $120 million, which includes expected stock-based compensation and warrant expense of approximately $35 million. Total non-GAAP operating expenses will be between $75 million and $85 million. We had a very active investor outreach calendar in Q1 '23, attending events in both the U.S.
and Europe. We will continue our outreach in Q2 '23 and will be participating in many conferences and non-deal roadshows with the financial community, educating investors on our sector and Archer strategy. We've provided a detailed calendar on our IR website and our shareholder letter. And with that, operator, we'll open it up for questions..
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from the line of Bill Peterson with J.P. Morgan. Your line is now open..
Yes. Good afternoon, and thanks for taking the questions. Nice progress in the quarter. My question is on the government opportunities, the DoD across the branches and maybe other government organizations.
Given it sounds like San Jose site really can't build that many units, when you're building high volume in Georgia, I know in the past you talked about maybe 50-50 split between aircrafts sales and network, how can we -- how should we be thinking about the additional government opportunities within that mix, especially in the context that maybe building network may take longer just given lack of infrastructure and obviously awareness and things like that? Just trying to figure out how to think about the go-to-market..
Thanks, Bill. This is Adam. So, we've been working with the DoD for several years. I'm just trying to put it on context for you. We've had -- we've been working them across several different programs, ranging from acoustics to autonomy.
And as we've gotten deeper in with the DoD and really expanded our relationship, we've also seen the DoD really expand their relationship across the whole industry. And so, there's been a lot of discussion around use cases and how can we use these vehicles within the DoD.
And one of the things that's, I think, been attractive and that we've heard a lot of comments on has been Archer's payload capabilities. And so that has really increased the volume of conversations that we've been having. And so that's really what's been driving a lot of this kind of deepening activity that Archer has put out there.
So, we decided to form this government advisory board where we have a range of -- some of the who's who from the different branches, really deep experience, folks that have worked deep into the budget process to the strategy side, across all the different branches.
And we're now kind of figuring out the best strategy on how to go and really pursue the different DoD opportunities. As it relates to our ability to deliver vehicles, one of the things that was super critical to Archer from the very beginning was building a platform that was manufacturable and scalable from day one.
And so, we've built a facility that gives us the ability to flex up our production volumes. So, in the first phase, we can build up to 650 planes. And there is a second phase to the Georgia Covington facility that will enable us to build up to 2,300 planes per year. So, we have plenty of capacity that we can deliver if the demand is there.
So, I think for now what we should do is we're going through doing our work, we put this advisory board together, we're working closely with the DoD, and as the opportunity start to materialize, I think we'll become a lot more clear on the size and timing around them..
Okay. Thanks for that. And maybe the next question is for Mark. I appreciate that you think as -- how you look at it today, the [indiscernible] kind of cash and then take into account $150 million from Stellantis. But just hoping you can kind of just put some numbers around this.
Beyond this quarter, how should we think about the OpEx and CapEx trajectory for this year? And I believe you talked about a few one-time items in this year rolling off.
Does that basically mean that OpEx should directionally go down an absolute basis next year as some of these one-time expenses don't occur? Just try to get more comfort around your cash burn..
Yes, sure, Bill. So, if you look at Q1 and how we guided Q2, we landed at the midpoint of our guidance for Q1. Q2, we provided the same guidance on non-GAAP expenses and GAAP expenses. And we did provide that there was roughly $16 million of non-recurring costs within Q1.
As I said on last quarter, that is a number that's fairly consistent quarter-to-quarter on our current outlook. So, yes, as we -- as I said, when you look at -- go into 2024, those non-recurring costs will not persist. There will be a small uptick in base level spending as we continue to build out the team et cetera.
But you can expect these non-recurring costs to roll off. So, the numbers that I've given you are probably -- are fairly directionally correct quarter-to-quarter. I don't see a -- we're not giving forward annual guidance. I don't see us materially changing spending increasing at quarter-over-quarter..
Okay. Thanks. That's good color. Thanks..
Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Andres Sheppard with Cantor Fitzgerald. Your line is now open..
Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Congratulations on the quarter and all the announcements, and thanks for taking our question. Adam, I just wanted to maybe follow-up on Bill's first question regarding the relation with the DoD. I think congrats on that expansion.
I was just wondering if maybe you can give us a little color on kind of how that relationship has materialized in the last few years? Maybe a little more color on kind of what's been done and what is perhaps expected to now be done? Thanks..
Yes, sure. So, as we've always stated from the beginning, Archer's goal has been to find the most efficient path to market. That's what we've always been focused on. We tried to have a very clear line of sight with the smallest amount of distraction as possible. And so, we've been working to commercialize the civilian passenger market.
We think it's the biggest market and the market that we're kind of cordially focused on. There have been opportunities along the way to partner with the DoD on lots of different areas. Autonomy, we've done several different programs on autonomy and acoustics as an example.
And so it's been helpful as it progressed some of the capabilities within the aircraft. But it's also really enabled the DoD's ability to just see broadly or broader into our overall program. So, we've been maturing the design now on the commercial side and we feel very comfortable with where we're at. We feel comfortable with certification timeline.
We feel comfortable with our ability to manufacture the vehicles. So, from our perspective, it got -- became interesting to start looking at ways to dual track our path to market. And so, we become more open to having those conversation. And then there were several key kind of technical benefits to our vehicle that the DoD was very interested in.
One was payload, that's a good example. Another one was the ability to move the vehicles around logistically. So, some of the groups have built vehicles that are much harder to move around logistically.
First, we've thought through a lot of these different items as it's related to our ability to scale manufacturing and then ship the vehicles all over the world because obviously they fly very short distances, so we wouldn't necessarily fly them to their final destination.
So, when you took all these things together, it really has enabled to just increase the conversations and the seriousness of the conversations.
And so, it's become a much more interesting market for us, because of the phase that we're in the program and because we've become so comfortable with the design and engineering phase with the Midnight vehicle..
Got it. Okay. No, that's super helpful. Follow-up question, a bit of curveball. Wondering if we can maybe get your thoughts on the announcement of Billy Nolen retiring from the FAA. What impact if at all might that take on certification? Thanks..
Sure. So first, we're very thankful for the time that Billy Nolen has given and for his service at the FAA and for his leadership there. So we think with Billy Nolen stepping down, there's obviously a period of time now where a new person will come into play. But the good news is that we've seen very widespread support on the regulatory side.
So, it's not even just in the FAA. And we've had recently Secretary Buttigieg spin out to see many of the different eVTOL OEM players. We've seen very broad support on Capitol Hill. And we've seen the whole FAA say that AAM is a top three priority.
So, I mean there are several companies that continue to make significant traction with the FAA, and Archer is now really heading into this testing phase as a lot of the rulemaking part is kind of nearing the back half of that process. So, we feel confident that it will have little to no disruption in terms of our progress.
And so, if we feel comfortable with where that's all at..
Got it. Very helpful again. Congrats on the quarter. I'll pass it on. Thank you..
Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Edison Yu with Deutsche Bank. Your line is now open..
Hey, thanks guys. Congrats on the progress. One follow-up on the defense opportunity.
Is there any potential chance that you'll get some contra R&D or something before deliveries occur with the DoD, something along those lines?.
Yeah. Hey, Edison. This is Adam. Yeah, that is certainly a possibility. So, the accounting nature of the different opportunities that we're looking at I think differ in terms of the different programs that we're considering. So, there's certainly a possibility for that. There also is possibility for early revenue opportunities as well.
And so, we look at it as a way to diversify the path to commercialization. And so, we think it's a good opportunity, but we'll give more color as details start to emerge..
Understood. And then, on Stellantis, I'm curious if you could share perhaps some of the early learnings you discovered. Obviously, they've been doing this for a very long time and [with high scale] (ph).
Are there things that you guys, kind of, encountered that said, oh, this is -- we wouldn't have known this without Stellantis, something -- any key takeaways you got there?.
Hey, Edison. This is Tom. It's a great question. I would say the reality is we're both learning from each other. So, to set the broad context here, Stellantis is really interested and it's becoming a big part of their business long term.
So, as much as we're benefiting from their experience in industrial engineering and automation, they're also learning about the right solutions that make sense for the problems we're trying to solve today. And as we said before, we're taking a very phased approach here. We're early days. We're using traditional processes.
We're being very thoughtful with where we're deploying capital and automation, trying to balance getting to market using our resources most effectively. So I don't know if I have any like super great example for you, but hopefully that sort of overall description is helpful..
Sure. And if I could sneak one more in. As part of the relationship with Stellantis, I believe you guys have stated in the original release that they will be looking to make open market purchases of the stock.
I'm curious, is that still, in your view, their intention? And what's the outlook there, if you have any?.
Hey, Edison. This is Mark. We can't comment specifically on any potential activities of Stellantis. However, I will draw attention to the fact that they did file a 13D -- Form 13D with the SEC two days ago where they actually indicated their intention or reiterated their intention to make open market purchases of our stock.
So that is a document that is required for them to even be able to do that..
All right, great. Thanks for the color..
Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of Savi Syth with Raymond James. Your line is now open..
Hey, good afternoon, everyone. Just on the certification front, I was curious looking at kind of based on the comments from other companies and stakeholders made in the kind of notice of airworthiness criteria that was in the public register.
What are some of the main areas of concern or contention with the kind of FAA certification process of standards and kind of how do you expect that to impact your process?.
Yes. Hi, Savi. This is Tom. Happy to answer that. To maybe just to set the stage, you're referring to comments on our airworthiness criteria that were published last fall after we got our [stage for] (ph) G-1, so these are the high level rules, yes. So, as you said, there was about six week, two months public comment period. FAA got a bunch of comments.
The last many months the FAA team has been working through those. And everything that we've heard so far is that we shouldn't really expect significant changes. If you think back to about a year ago, our original G-1 from 2117A, 2117B, was kind of a similar timeframe here and we saw very few changes.
An example was they added a bird strike requirement, but we had already been designing for that. So it wasn't any substantive impact for us. So all the data we have so far is that we shouldn't expect a much change, but we haven't gotten the official documents. We expect them soon. So, we'll happily share more once we have the data..
That's helpful. And just to follow-up on that part of it.
With the subject-specific certification plans that you've submitted, have any of those been accepted by the FAA?.
No. None of them have been accepted so far, but there are a handful that are pretty close to being accepted. And overall, I would say, really the thing that matters for us is driving down the risk through the conversations and working sessions with the FAA.
And from that perspective, what we've seen so far is a lot of alignment and, I would say, benefit from the simplified approaches that we're taking that's getting us into rooms with these FAA subject matter experts that are saying quite quickly, "Oh, okay, we understand what you guys are doing. We've seen this before.
This is easy to understand." And the trend is that that's paving the way for to have an efficient path forward here. So hopefully that's good color..
Yes, that's very helpful. Thanks. And maybe Mark, just a question on the liquidity front.
Is there a certain liquidity level that you're kind of comfortable maintaining, especially [indiscernible] other potential avenues of funding you might consider in case certification slips?.
Hey, Savi. This is Adam. So maybe let me just take a crack at that. I'm the largest shareholder. So, I think about it a lot as well. And I think we are in a pretty unique position here, right? We have the flexibility from Stellantis. We have a large order with United.
They've already given us some pre delivery payments with the potential for additional pre delivery payments, plus we raised a lot of capital. So, we're just going to be strategic about how we think about capital. We don't need capital today, but we do have optionality here built in.
So, I think about dilution versus capital as well on a regular basis and I think we are just in a fortunate position to be able to manage that over a pretty significant period of time..
Makes sense. Thank you..
Thank you for your question. The next question is from the line of David Zazula with Barclays. Your line is now open..
Hey, thanks for taking my question. I want to come back to, and I think others have as well, Bill's original question, and just hit on another angle. I guess, my original understanding of kind of the mission intent of Archer was to produce aircraft in order to become the greatest and largest operator of urban air mobility aircraft.
And just -- as I heard, Adam, you described the mission today, maybe I'm just parsing words too much, but it sounded like you were focusing a little bit more on the production side and less on the Archer air side.
So, I guess, is that an evolution you're thinking? Are there other opportunities that are -- you're looking at that are better than you'd originally thought? Or is it just same as it ever was?.
Thanks, David, for the question. So, from the beginning, we've always said we've looked at kind of have a dual strategy of selling some aircraft through Archer Direct and also operating some aircraft through the UAM business. And so, we've kind of put out a high level target there of 50-50 from that standpoint.
So nothing has changed from that, and maybe it's parsing words too much. But what I think the DoD opportunity represents is just more potential upside in the Direct side of things. It gives us the ability to sell into the DoD.
And if there are great opportunities that we can take advantage of given our ability to flex up the manufacturing capabilities that we have, we'll certainly take advantage of that. So I think we'll reserve the right to sell more vehicles if we find an interesting opportunity to do that.
So I would say, at this point, we're not changing our outlook from saying kind of 50-50 split. And the reason we've always said 50-50 split is we think this will be capital-intensive business where we will generate cash flow on the manufacturing side to help pave for the way for the long-term view of building the UAM vision.
And so maybe there's an opportunity to help finance that through like broader sales, that's certainly a potential. But I think today we'll kind of keep that same framework in place of a 50-50 split..
Thanks. That's very helpful. And then maybe for Tom, noticing that there is one plant non-conforming aircraft, not that I'm wishing ill upon it, but certainly, if there were any casualties or complications with that aircraft, you wouldn't be the first in the industry to see those.
So I guess, are there contingency plans or what would the impact be if something happened to that aircraft through the testing process? How would that ultimately impact your certification timeline?.
Yes. Hi, David. Happy to answer that. So, the first Midnight aircraft that's entering flight test here in the next couple of months, the strategy with that vehicle is to reduce risk and accelerate our path to market with piloted conforming aircraft.
So, we see it as this great opportunity to gather data, do the type of testing we're going to need to do "for credit" later as early as possible to learn and reduce risk. So, we take a very rigorous approach to flight testing.
Today, we don't talk about it much, but we still fly Maker on a very regular basis with our very professional flight test team, and that's the same team that's going to be executing flight tests with Midnight going forward. So, it's all part of this broader strategy to get to piloted flight early next year, which we remain on track to do.
And then get into the "for credit" testing working towards our TC. So, that's how that fits into the overall arc. And yes, we're basically just executing into the strategy..
I guess, as I hear that, it's important, but there are other avenues to perform the test that you're planning.
Is -- I guess, is that the summary there?.
Hey, David. This is Adam. So here's how to think about it. The factory in San Jose is coming online right now. That factory has the ability to build tens of planes. So, this first non-conforming plane is only months ahead of the production plans that are also getting built. So we're in the process where we're spooling that factory up right now.
So I mean, even in the ultimate worst case scenario, there's a factory that can build planes like that is building planes right behind that.
So, we don't really -- we're obviously taking a very rigorous approach to flight testing, but I think from a very negative framing of the question, there still is a factory there that's ready to produce -- that is producing or will be producing vehicles right after the non-conforming aircraft rolls off the line..
Thanks. Much appreciated..
Thank you for your question. There are no additional questions waiting at this time. So, I'll turn the call back over to Adam Goldstein, CEO and Founder of Archer, for closing remarks..
Thank you everyone for joining us today on the call. 2023 is really going to be an amazing year and there're so many catalysts to come. This is one of the most exciting times to be building an aerospace. And we thank you very much for your participation..
That concludes the conference call. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect your lines..