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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q4
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Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thank you for joining Reading International’s Earnings Call to discuss our 2023 Fourth Quarter and Full Year Results. My name is Andrzej Matyczynski, and I’m Reading’s Executive Vice President of Global Operations.

With me are Ellen Cotter, our President and Chief Executive Officer; and Gilbert Avanes, our Executive Vice President, Chief Financial Officer and Treasurer. Before we begin the substance of the call, I’ll run through the usual caveats.

In accordance with the Safe Harbor provision of the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995, certain matters that will be addressed in this earnings call may constitute forward-looking statements.

Such statements are subject to risks, uncertainties and other factors that may cause our actual performance to be materially different from the performance indicated or implied by such statements. Such risk factors are clearly set out in our SEC filings. We undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements.

In addition, we will discuss non-GAAP financial measures on this call. Reconciliations and definitions of non-GAAP financial measures, which are, segment operating income, EBITDA and Adjusted EBITDA are included in our recently issued 2023 fourth quarter earnings release on the Company’s website.

We have adjusted where applicable the EBITDA items we believe to be external to our business and not reflective of our cost of doing business or results of operations.

Such costs include legal expenses relating to extraordinary litigation and any other items that we consider to be non-recurring in accordance with the two-year SEC requirement for determining whether an item is non-recurring, infrequent or unusual in nature. We believe that the adjusted EBITDA is an important supplemental measure of our performance.

In today’s call, we also use an industry-accepted financial measure called Theater Level Cash Flow, TLCF, which is theater level revenue less direct theater level expenses. ATP, average ticket price is also used as an accepted industry acronym.

We also use a measure referred to as F&B Spend Per Patron, SPP, which is a key performance indicator for our cinemas. The F&B SPP is calculated by dividing a cinema’s revenues generated by food and beverage sales by the number of admissions at that cinema.

Please note that our comments are necessarily summary in nature, and anything we say is qualified by the more detailed disclosure set forth in our Form 10-Q and other filings with the US Securities and Exchange Commission.

So with that behind us, I'll turn it over to Ellen, who will review our 2023 fourth quarter and full year results and discuss our business strategy going forward, followed by Gilbert, who will provide a more detailed financial review.

Ellen?.

Ellen Cotter

Last Dance. Huge franchises will return, The Lord of the Rings, The War of Rohirrim, Beetlejuice and Joker. And fans eagerly await the theatrical release of Wicked, the multi-billion dollar Broadway sensation. We received questions from stockholders about our 2024 Cinema CapEx forecast.

In '24, despite movies with amazing box office potential, it's widely expected that the industry overall will be behind 2023, which was already in recovery mode from the pandemic, as a result of the scheduled delays due to the Hollywood strikes.

We'll be focused on the CapEx that's required to maintain our operations, as opposed to voluntary improvements. With that said, we're also trying to work with certain cinema landlords about accelerating renovations through a tenant improvement allowance to take advantage of what we anticipate will be a 2025 resurgence.

In 2025, we'll look to reactivate our internally funded voluntary CapEx. Now let's look specifically at our U.S. cinemas. For the full year 2023, our revenue increased 17%, or by $16.7 million, to $113.8 million. And our U.S. cinema operating loss improved by $11.4 million, or 66%, to an operating loss of $5.8 million.

Our Q4 2023 revenue decreased by 3% to $23.7 million, compared to Q4 of 2022. And our U.S. operating loss improved by $2.2 million, to an operating loss of $2.6 million, from a loss of $4.8 million in Q4 of 2022.

These gross revenues were achieved despite the closure of three underperforming theaters during Q4 of 2023, two in Hawaii and one in California. Other notable milestones achieved during 2023 for the U.S. cinema group, our U.S. ATP for 2023 reached $13.01, the highest ATP recorded ever for our U.S. cinemas.

In early 2023, we became 100% liquor licensed across our U.S. cinema circuit, allowing us to achieve another record-breaking F&B SPP of $7.80 for our U.S. cinema circuit in 2023. Our Q4 2023 ATP of $13.82 was the highest quarter ever, and a F&B SPP of $7.76 was the second highest fourth quarter ever for our U.S. circuit.

Additionally, our theater rental revenues helped make the 2023 ancillary revenue the highest year on record. The Angelica Film Center in New York City continued to stand out as a beacon of excellence among our U.S. specialty cinemas. 2023 box office grosses at the Angelica New York increased by 79% over 22 levels.

Moreover, the 2023 box office grosses of $4.5 million at the Angelica New York City represented 97% of the 2019 box office gross. These impressive results were driven by successful runs of specialty films like Past Lives, Asteroid City, Bottoms and Theater Camp.

Past Lives has held the top spot as the highest grossing title at the Angelica since January of 2019, while Asteroid City boasted the highest opening week performance within that same time frame. Our signature programming continued to grow and drive overall attendance.

Alternative content and repertory programs generated over $2.6 million in box office revenue during 2023, a 132% increase from 2022 and a 67% increase from 2019 levels.

Regarding our Angelica Free to Join membership program, which launched in April of 2022, as of today, we report just under 130,000 Angelica members, which account for approximately 25% of all paid attendance for Angelica cinemas within our U.S. circuit. And now, let's turn to our cinemas in Australia and New Zealand.

First, I should note that these results are in U.S. dollars and as a result, understate the actual improvement due to the loss of value of the Australian and New Zealand currencies. For the 2023 year, our Australian cinema revenue increased $133,000 to $80 million versus 2022.

Operating income increased by $333,000 to $5.3 million compared to an operating income of $4.9 million for 2022. In Q4 2023, our Australian cinema revenues decreased by 3% to $15.7 million compared to the fourth quarter of '22. Our Q4 2023 operating loss increased by $203,000 to a loss of $1.1 million from a loss of $891,000 in Q4 of '22.

For the full year of '23, our New Zealand cinema revenue decreased by $528,000 to $13.8 million. Our operating income increased by $145,000 to just over $670,000 compared to the operating income in 2022. Our Q4 2023 New Zealand cinema revenue decreased by $716,000 to $2.5 million compared to the fourth quarter in 2022.

Our fourth quarter 2023 operating loss increased by $316,000 to a loss of $395,000. Notable milestones achieved during 2023 include the following which again will all be reported in functional currency. Our Australian and New Zealand ATPs for 2023 reached $13.98 and $12.33 respectively and were recording the highest yearly ATPs ever.

Our Australian and New Zealand F&B SPP for 2023 also reached record highs at $7.51 and $6.64 respectively. Our fourth quarter 2023 Australian ATP of $14.17 set a record for the second highest quarter ever for the Australian cinemas. Our Q4 2023 New Zealand ATP of $12.61 was the highest record quarter ever for the New Zealand cinemas.

And our Q4 2023 Australian F&B SPP of $7.84 set the record for the highest quarter ever for Australian cinemas. We also entered into countrywide revenue generating promotions with blue chip global brands like MasterCard and Helstra which helped us deliver the highest quarter ever for Q4 2024 screen advertising revenues in Australia.

Revenues were also enhanced by the opening of our first Angelica Cinema outside the U.S. at South City Square in Brisbane which happened on August 24, 2023. The new Angelica Cinema is an all-reclining seat eight-screen cinema with three auditoriums that feature in-seat food and beverage service.

We also opened a new five-screen Reading Cinema at Busselton in Western Australia on September 22 of 2023. This cinema features a Titan Luxe auditorium with Dolby Atmos sound and all auditoriums provide the latest in reclining seating and laser projection. Now let's turn to our global real estate business.

Our full year 2023 global real estate revenue of $19.9 million increased by 18% compared to 2022. And operating income of $3.8 million increased 649% from an operating income of $506,000 in 2022.

With respect to the fourth quarter 2023 global real estate revenue of $4.5 million was flat with the fourth quarter of '22 and operating income of $578,000 decreased by 8%. In the U.S.

our full year 2023 real estate revenue increased by 104% to $6.2 million primarily due to Petco's rent along with an increase in revenue from our live theaters in New York City.

Taking into account the challenging New York City office leasing market, we recently engaged George Comfort & Sons, a full-service New York City real estate firm with a proven track record of tackling complex and challenging urban projects to assist us with the activation of the upper floors of 44 Union Square.

Peter Duncan and his team at George Comfort will be working with us as exclusive leasing agent and property manager and we should have a more thorough update for you about the property in our first quarter 2024 reporting.

Our live theater circuit continued to achieve positive operational results despite our Orpheum being dark for certain portions of the year. The Orpheum hosted comedian Rachel Bloom in a limited engagement of Death Let Me Do My Show starting in early December.

Following this Eddie Izzard recently opened a limited engagement on March 19, 2024 and we're in licensed negotiations with an exciting production set to launch an open-ended run in August. The show will likely be announced by mid-April, so stay tuned. At the Moneta Lane Theater, Audible, an Amazon company, continues to operate.

The licensed agreement at the Moneta has expired with Audible and we're in discussions about extending the term. However, we can't assure our stockholders that such extension will be achieved.

On a local currency basis, our 2023 Australian real estate revenue increased by almost $808,000 or 4.5% and our New Zealand real estate revenue of NZD2.5 million decreased by less than NZD13,000 New Zealand. Reflecting a weaker foreign exchange rate for the Australian and New Zealand dollars with respect to U.S.

dollars, our full year 2023 Australian real estate revenue of $12.2 million slightly decreased by $83,000 in 2023 compared to the previous year and our 2023 New Zealand real estate revenue of $1.5 million decreased by 2% compared to 22%.

As of December 31, 2023, we had 78 third party tenants in our combined Australian and New Zealand real estate portfolio. We had a total third party occupancy rate of 97%. We signed 19 third-party leases during '23 in Australia and New Zealand and our annual combined third-party tenant sales from our Australian real estate portfolio was AUD117 million.

Turning to the status of our future asset monetizations to support our liquidity needs, we have listed for sale our approximately 26.6-acre industrial site in Williamsport, Pennsylvania. And in 2023, we resumed work to realize the value of our real estate holdings in the City of Philadelphia.

Our properties include the 0.7-mile-long Reading Viaduct, a raised rail bed and bridges connecting and reaching through the Callowhill and Poplar neighborhoods of Philadelphia, and reaching Divine Street in the City's Central Business District near the proposed site for the new home of the Philadelphia 76ers.

Calculated inclusive of our contiguous properties, the Reading Viaduct comprises approximately 6.5 acres of land plus various bridges passing over various public streets and sidewalks connecting our various parcels into one continuous land holding unimpaired by any public thoroughfares.

Representatives of the City of Philadelphia and the City Center District have expressed an interest in acquiring the Viaduct for park purposes as an extension to the existing rail park.

And in December of 2023, the Philadelphia City Council adopted an ordinance enabling the condemnation of the Reading Viaduct and the transfer of the property to a non-for-profit for use as a public park. However, to our knowledge, no action has been taken by the City to advance such condemnation.

Based on our ongoing research, we are evaluating whether a dedicated public park is the highest and best use of the Reading Viaduct.

While a connecting public park pedestrian way akin to the New York High Line would likely be an important component of development of the Reading Viaduct, we're in the process of determining the highest and best use which may include a mixed-use development featuring residential, retail, and entertainment uses.

As the development strategies evolve, we believe that a park and pedestrian corridor would be complementary to the overall development of the property. We believe the Reading Viaduct offers a substantial long-term opportunity for our company through potentially selling or joint venturing, in whole or in part, part or all of the property.

The properties adjoining our Reading Viaduct include a number of freestanding legal parcels that could be monetized separately and/or apart from the main body of the Reading Viaduct.

As we've reported, we're currently reviewing all of our real estate assets to identify further asset monetization alternatives to raise additional liquidity to the extent needed in order to maintain a stable foundation into the future.

We expect that by the end of 2024 we'll monetize the fee interest under certain of our international cinemas while retaining leasehold interest.

In sum, while we're bracing for a slowdown in the global box office in '24 as a result of the Hollywood strikes, we're optimistic about the movie slate in '25 and beyond and we're confident that our teams are pulling all operational levers to drive attendance and revenues ancillary to the box office.

In 2024, we've worked with our lenders to provide some relief and we've activated another round of asset sales to sustain our company through 2024. This will also give the company the ability to focus on some of our most important real estate developments that will drive the most long-term value for our stockholders.

That wraps up my business overview for 2023. Let me now turn it over to Gilbert..

Gilbert Avanes

Thank you, Ellen. Consolidated revenues for the quarter ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $1.9 million to $45.3 million when compared to Q4 2022. This decrease was primarily driven by a weaker film slate in Q4 2023 compared to the fourth quarter of 2022.

Consolidated revenues for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 increased by $19.6 million to $222.7 million when compared to the same period in the prior year. This is a result of improved performance across our U.S.

and Australia cinema circuit due to a stronger movie slate and the new rental stream from Petco at 44 Union Square which began in the fourth quarter of 2022, offset somewhat by the decrease in the value of our Australian and New Zealand currencies.

Net loss attributable to Reading International, Inc., for the quarter ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $0.8 million to a net loss of $12.4 million when compared to the same period in the prior year.

Basic loss per share decreased by $0.04 to a basic loss per share of $0.56 for the quarter ended December 31, 2023 compared to the quarter ended December 31, 2022.

These results are due to increased real estate revenues along with the decreased cinema expenses, decreased depreciation and amortization expense partially offset by increased interest expense and reduced cinema segment revenues as a result of lower attendance in the fourth quarter of 2023 compared to 2022.

Net loss attributable to Reading International, Inc., for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $5.5 million to a loss of $30.7 million when compared to the same period in 2022. Basic loss per share of $1.38 for the 12 month ended December 31, 2023 compared to the basic loss per share of $1.64 for the 12 months ended December 31, 2022.

This decrease was due to improved segment operating performance from both cinema and real estate, decreased depreciation and amortization expenses, decreased G&A expenses partially offset by a $5 million increase in interest expense due to a rise in interest rates and the $7 million decrease in other income.

Our total company depreciation and amortization impairment and G&A expenses for the quarter ended December 31, 2023 decreased slightly by $0.2 million to $9 million compared to the same quarter in prior year.

Depreciation amortization impairment and G&A expense for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $5.3 million to $38.6 million compared to the same period in the prior year.

These decreases are due to impairment expenses that were incurred in 2022 that did not occur in 2023 and decreased depreciation and amortization due to delay in capex spending. For the fourth quarter 2023 income tax benefit decreased by $1 million to an income tax expense of $0.3 million compared to the equivalent prior year period.

The change between the fourth quarter of 2023 and the fourth quarter of 2022 is primarily related to an increase in reserve for unrecognized tax benefit in 2023. For the 12 month ended December 31, 2023 income tax expense decreased by $0.2 million to income tax expense $0.6 million compared to the equivalent prior year period.

The change between the 12 months of 2023 and the 12 months of 2022 is primarily related to the monetization of certain of our real estate assets. For the fourth quarter of 2023 our adjusted EBITDA loss decreased by $2.4 million to a loss of $2.2 million compared to the same prior year period.

This decrease was primarily the result of lower cinema expenses. For the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 our adjusted EBITDA increased to $7.8 million from basically zero compared to the same prior year period.

This increase is due to improved cinema operations and increase in real estate rental income due to rent from our Petco tenant which commenced in the fourth quarter of 2022 along with the decreased depreciation and amortization partially offset by increased interest expense and increased cinema expenses.

Shifting to cash flows, for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 net cash used in operating activities decreased by $16.6 million to a net cash use of $9.7 million when compared to the same prior year period.

This was driven by a $14.8 million decrease in net change in operating assets and liability primarily resulting from taxes payables, film rent payables and prepaid and other assets plus better operating result compared to prior year.

Cash used in investing activities for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $6.8 million to cash used of $2.7 million. This is mainly due to delay in CapEx spending and the sales of our Maitland property in Australia for the fourth quarter of 2023.

Cash used in financing activities for the 12 months ended December 31, 2023 decreased by $9.9 million to $6.7 million due to reduced debt payment compared to prior year plus $4.1 million draws on our loan with Emerald Creeks Capital.

Turning to our balance sheet, please note the consolidated balance sheet contained in our earnings release issued by Reading on April 1, 2024 contained an incorrect classification of debt which did not take into account the amendment of our Bank of America facility which was entered into on March 27, 2024.

As of December 31, 2023, the debt current portion of balance sheet is $34.5 million and the debt long-term portion is $146.6 million. A corrected earnings release has been issued by Reading.

The disclosure regarding Reading's debt contained in the annual report on Form 10-K for the year ended December 31, 2023 as filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission on March 29, 2024 is correct. Turning now to our financial position, our total assets on December 31, 2023 were $533.1 million compared to $587.1 million on December 31, 2022.

This decrease was driven by a $17 million decrease in cash and cash equivalents from which we funded our ongoing business operations, an $18.9 million decrease in operating leases, right-of-use assets, and a $24.5 million decrease in operating properties offset by an increase in asset growth held for sale of $11.2 million.

As of December 31, 2023, our total outstanding gross borrowings were $210.3 million compared to $215.6 million on December 31, 2022. Our cash and cash equivalent as of December 31, 2023 were $12.9 million, which includes approximately $7.1 million in the U.S., $5.2 million in Australia, and $0.7 million in New Zealand.

Further to address the liquidity pressure on our business, we are working with our lenders to restructure certain debt facilities, and we have selected certain real estate assets for potential monetization and have listed them for sale.

As Ellen mentioned, we sold our Maitland property in Australia during the fourth quarter of 2023 for AUD2.8 million, and during the first quarter of 2024, we completed the sale of our Culver City office building for $10 million and fully discharged the related mortgage.

During 2023 and the first quarter of 2024, we modified our Bank of America loan in the first quarter of 2023, extending the maturity date of the facility to September 4, 2024, and on March 27, 2024, we further extended our Bank of America, Bank of Hawaii loan maturing date to August 18, 2025, together, with the relaxation of certain financial covenants.

We just completed a modification of our revolver corporate market loan facility with NAB, which will be reported on in the next 10-Q. In September 2023, we extended the maturity date from October 3, 2023, to October 1, 2024 on our Cinemas 123 Term loan. In November 2023, we extended our Westpac loan maturity date to January 1, 2025.

On January 26, 2024, we extended our Santander loan maturity to June 1, 2024. With that, I will now turn it over to Andre..

A - Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thanks, Gilbert. First, I'd like to thank our stockholders, as usual, for forwarding questions to our investor relations email. In addition to addressing many of your questions in the prepared remarks from Ellen and Gilbert, we've selected a few additional questions to offer additional insights from management.

The first question regarding our development in Wellington. The City of Wellington has reportedly an agreement to purchase and lease back land underneath Reading's Courtney Central Shopping Centre.

How come Reading has made no mention whatsoever what has become part of the public discussion and record of the Wellington City Council? What monetization, financing, redevelopment plans are you pursuing with the Council regarding the Courtney Central property or properties? What is the timing and or milestones toward finalizing a larger development plan for Courtney Central? Ellen?.

Ellen Cotter

As widely reported in the New Zealand press, in 2023, we signed a non-binding commercial term sheet with the Wellington City Council to assist in the redevelopment of our Courtney Central building. This commercial term sheet includes confidentiality obligations for both parties. Therefore, we're unable to provide any further details at this stage.

We remind our stockholders that we can provide no assurance that a final deal will ever be struck. From Reading's perspective, its assets in Wellington, New Zealand have been and continue to be core assets and they represent a long-term value opportunity for our stockholders.

Since Courtney Central opened in 2002 and up until its temporary closure in January of 2019 due to seismic safety concerns, the building has been a critical part of our overall cash flow. The cash flow from this building was the foundation of our New Zealand business.

In January of 2019, we made the very difficult decision to effectively shut the building down when we discovered a seismic issue that could potentially put people using the building at risk.

Following that decision that has cost our company many millions of dollars, we've dealt with a global pandemic that devastated the cinema business, the fastest and highest interest rate tightening in history, record high inflation, and the unprecedented Hollywood strikes.

Nevertheless, we remain committed to strengthening and recreating a first-class destination at Courtney Central for Wellingtonians and the visitors to this important capital city. The anchor of this destination would be a world-class 10-screen cinema that would delight the moviegoers of Wellington again.

Wellington is one of the most creative cities in the world and is now vital to Hollywood's creative engine. Our goal would be to deliver the community one of the best cinematic experiences audiences could have anywhere in the world.

As I mentioned earlier, despite the frustrating hurdles that the theatrical business has endured over the last four years, we see light at the end of the movie slate tunnel. The 2025 movie slate looks very exciting and ends with a bang with Avatar 3, a movie with very important ties to Wellington.

While the redevelopment schedule would not result in Courtney Central being open during 2025, the encouraging upcoming release slate in 2025 and beyond, together with the renewed commitment of the major studios to the theatrical exclusive window, support why Reading is so committed to getting its assets reactivated again in Wellington..

Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thanks, Ellen, for that comprehensive answer. The next question is regarding the quarter's actual dollar per cap concession versus last year's same quarter.

Can you provide that for each market, US and either Australia, New Zealand, separately or as a down-under group? To what do you attribute the changes? Gilbert, can you field this?.

Gilbert Avanes

The US food and beverage per capita in Q4 2023 was $7.76, which decreased by $0.10 or 1% from Q4 2022 through a healthy food and beverage spent per patron. The reason that the Q4 2023 US SPP reduced slightly was certain location had greater sensitivity to inflationary pressure and prevailing economic conditions.

The Australia food and beverage per capita in Q4 2023 was Australia and $7.84, which decreased by $0.04 or 0.5% from Q4 2022. Our food and beverage increased due to launch of our Angelica at South City Square and Reading Cinemas in Busselton, each of which offer elevated food and beverage by Angelica, offers alcohol.

Our SPP was also positively improved by the success of the Taylor Swift promotional cup initiatives, with stocks selling out in the first week. The New Zealand food and beverage per capita in Q4 2023 was NZD6.73, which decreased by NZD0.20 or 3% from Q4 2022.

The dip in quarterly SPP was directly related to the prevailing economic condition in New Zealand with high inflation negatively impacting consumer spending, highlighted by three consecutive months of SPP decline..

Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thanks Gilbert. Ellen, do you have any concerns about the credit worthiness of Petco as your tenant at 44 Union Square? Credit markets are pricing their loans worse than the average single B loan and the discount margin is almost 250 basis points higher than the OAS on high yield credit.

Their stock has 30% short interest and their leverage is over eight times net debt 2024, expected EBITDA.

Can you help us understand what protections you might have in your lease agreement that help mitigate the potential impact here?.

Ellen Cotter

We monitor the activities of our major tenants. Given the foot traffic of the new flagship location, we're not concerned about our Petco lease. While the terms of the lease are confidential, I can share with you that the store is, in our view, very successful and reflects a major capital investment on the part of Petco.

With that said, the company has the usual and customary landlord rights expected for a commercial landowner in New York City. It's been reported by the retail press that at 44 Union Square, Petco has elevated the pet-human bond in this New York City flagship and caused the design of the store in another galaxy.

This Petco store is not just about picking up pet treats or dropping your dog off for grooming. They have created theater through great visual merchandising store design and merchandise operations..

Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thanks, Ellen. Our next question regarding corporate HQ staff and operating costs.

With the Culver City office building sale, what are your plans and expectations for this office's corporate staff and projected personnel and other Los Angeles overhead costs compared to the most recent year? Ellen, can you take this?.

Ellen Cotter

Our plans are to move the team in Los Angeles down to a new office space in Downtown LA. We're working on finalizing the lease now and expect that we should be officing in the space within the next six to eight weeks. Moving to Downtown LA will significantly cut the commute time for most of our employees.

With the office moved downtown, the elimination of debt, taxes, and other operational expenses related to the 5995 building in Culver City, we do expect to see a sizable reduction in our Los Angeles G&A costs. In terms of personnel, though, we expect to maintain similar staffing levels in 2024, similar to what we've had in 2023..

Andrzej Matyczynski Executive Vice President of Global Operations

Thanks, Ellen. And our last question, which I'll handle, is regarding our Maitland property.

Maitland, about how much did Maitland Cinema earn or lose in 2023? What influenced the decision not to lease back for a longer period? Buyer's alternative plans? Do you expect the Maitland Cinema to be profitable over the two-year lease back? And do you desire to maintain a theatre here beyond that short term? Well, the site has been a positive contributor to our Australian circuit for over the past five years, when you take into account our internal rent structure.

However, the cinema over recent period encountered competition when a new state-of-the-art cinema opened close by, which also influenced our decision to sell. This issue, coupled with the potential plans the buyer may have for the site, drove the lease back period.

A decision as to whether that period is shorter or longer will respectively lie with the buyer or ourselves. Such a decision on our part would be made closer to the conclusion of the two-year term. And with that, that brings us to the end of our conference call here.

As usual, we'd like to thank all of our stockholders, not only for sending the questions, but for sticking with the company over these tight periods. And we'd like to wish you all the very best for the coming year. Thank you very much..

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