Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Welcome to Nano Dimension's Second Quarter 2024 Conference Call. My name is Gayleen and I'm your operator for today's event. On the call with us today are Yoav Stern, CEO and Member of the Board of Directors; Tomer Pinchas, CFO and COO; and Julien Lederman, VP, Corporate Development.
Before we begin, may I remind our listeners that certain information provided on this call may contain forward-looking statements, and the safe harbor statement outlined in today's earnings press release also pertains to statements made on this call.
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Yoav will begin the call with a business update, followed by a question-and-answer session, at which time the management team will answer questions. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the call over to Nano Dimension's CEO and Member of the Board of Directors, Yoav Stern. Yoav, you may begin..
The name is Yoav, and I hope people by now, know me, but I've been twisted before. Hi everybody, thank you very much for joining us this morning. Taking off your time in the beginning of the day. Quarter is a very strong quarter, the best quarter we have ever, even though we had a strong quarter and a similar quarter last year.
We are still about 2% above that and which we are proud about. We have gross margins up to 45%. The adjusted gross margins similar to last year, on a half year - on a quarterly - on half year, they are up, on the quarterly, they are bit down, but negligible.
And more important than everything else to us, because we're aiming at positive cash and profits is that our cash burn was down 54% from $31 million cash burn down to 11. And this is a result of a turnaround and reduction of expense plan that we implemented in the first quarter of this year.
Not because we don't have the cash to fulfill our business plan for the next four -- three, four years, but because we believe a business plan, and a business model should lead to positive cash flow as fast as possible. And we are 64% on the way there.
We also have some business updates, which somewhat repeating what I've said, what we announced before, but are very important. Announced acquisition of Desktop Metal. Innovative Additive Electronics products and Integrated Inspection System and the digital printing partnership between GIS and Esko-Graphics and Fiery.
We announced before and it's very, very important as we integrate all our product lines into the wider industry. If you watch now, the customer highlights slide is the next one. I kind of brought up here just couple of names from two of our product lines.
The reason why we didn't bring many, many more names is we are not allowed to because many of our customers are sensitive to publishing their names.
Some of them are in the space industry, some of them are in defense industry, some of them are in other industries like computer, which are major players in the computer industry's -- computer industry, but they don't want their name to appear.
So I can just tell you that we, beyond these two -- new customers they are here that came this quarter, we have already close to 10 -- between six to 10 western armies, which are customer files; between five to seven three letters agencies, secret service agencies, three letters agencies as they call them, around the world, only western that are customers of ours.
We have some serious -- from the largest defense contractor around the world, probably four or five of them are our customers, not just big about HENSOLDT from Europe, from Germany, which is our joint venture partner in a mutual investment. So we are slowly, slowly appearing now on the forefront of every industrial chosen group of customers.
If you're looking at the slide of Creating an Efficient Industry 4.0. This is a very important slide. Not so much because of the data that appears there, which is the data of our company over the last -- between three years to last year because of the title.
Efficient Industry 4.0, ladies and gentlemen, we are not in the desktop, sorry, in the additive manufacturing industry. We are aiming and we will be and we will show you that to be in an Industry 4.0, the reason is we believe additive manufacturing is not an industry, additive manufacturing is a pile of technologies.
The industry we are in is an industry where we manufacture machines which are digital and converting the regular and traditional industry into a digital Industry 4.0. As an example, if you take a very advanced CNC machine, computer numerical control, it used to be numerical control before it was called computer numerical control.
These are also digital machines for the industry. And it's also edge device and it's also creating an end result product, except it's going to reduction -- reductive technology, not additive technology, but in our vision, this is a part of one industry.
And as we grow and expand, you will see that we will start to be a player not only in additive manufacturing technologies. That's very, very important.
One of the reasons for that is the additive manufacturing industry, and again, I shouldn't call it an industry, I should call it pile of technologies, is considered to sell about $15 billion a year of products and machines.
But out of the $15 billion, probably 12 to 13 are people who are using the machines and selling products by using those technologies. $3 billion to $4 billion is the people who manufacturing the machines, not only manufacturing, doing the R&D in developing the technologies and manufacturing machines.
So two-thirds of the market, or 75% of the market are people who do not invest in R&D and do not build machines. They do not manufacture materials. And sure enough, look at the economy here.
The people who manufacturing products using our machines are making money, and 95% of the people who manufacture and develop the machines and the materials are losing money. That's not a normal circumstance. Not a normal situation, it cannot hold whether - is in our portion of the industry, the machine developers and makers here is to consolidate.
And you can get an example if you look years ago into the aviation industry when there were many manufacturers of aircrafts. I'm speaking about commercial aircraft and the people who are flying them. The analogy is the manufacturer of the aircraft are us, they're machine manufacturers.
And the airlines that fly them are the users who manufacture products and the airline products before regulation was profitable. And the people who manufactured -- products actually enabled them, were losing money. And there were many of them. Who remembers the name Comet and who remembers Douglas and McDonnell and McDonnell Douglas.
Today, everybody consolidated and in the commercial airline industry, you have two manufacturers, Airbus and Boeing. And that would enable them to become profitable, because they realized early in the game all the rest of the players could not survive on their own. That is what's going to happen in our industry.
I'm not sure it will be reduced down to two, I think we'll be ending up more, but definitely not 350 companies manufacturing machines that everybody and every one of them, 95% at least, not making money. The next slide, which is the acquiring of Desktop Metal slide, is one of our first steps. It's not our first step because we consolidated before.
We did seven acquisitions before Desktop Metal, but those were smaller acquisitions, and we waited for a long time for the big ones to come because prices were totally out of whack and totally unacceptable.
Desktop Metal, if you read their proxy statement, going for a shareholders vote for this deal, describe the process that we went with them in acquisition, we gave them nine proposals over the last two years to acquire them, ladies and gentlemen, nine proposals. The last proposal, which is the one they took, is the lowest proposal of all the lines.
Think about it traditionally, when you bid for a house and you don't get it, you increase your price you increase your price until you get it. Well, here's the opposite we reduced the price on every new proposal that we made because the market shrunk in valuations because the companies did not make money and were not growing at the right place.
So we waited for this moment in time to start the acquisitions of the larger companies. The next slide is a map or a graph that shows you where do we believe we are positioned or will be positioned once we close this acquisition with Desktop Metal. And ladies and gentlemen, we didn't finish the acquisition trail.
Even with Desktop Metal, it takes us from being $60 million, $70 million compared to being at $230 million overnight. And it positions at the high growth potential and with the broadest technology portfolio, but all these are just sub level drivers that has to drive a business model into profitability.
The next slide discusses how little bit points of interest we have with developing a premium, high-margin portfolio of additive material, and additive manufacturing materials. And as I mentioned earlier, UCS venturing out into digital Industry 4.0. It's not necessarily going to be only AM. So AM is just one of the tools for digital Industry 4.0.
And you see here, we believe software and AI is the major driver after materials in this industry and we are focusing on R&D efforts on that. Next slide discusses the reason, actually if you wish, that we believe that the merger with the Desktop Metal is such a good transaction for us.
You see the -- in the middle, you see the overlap of distribution go to market. The verticals that we all go after are 80% overlapping and there are a little bit non-overlapping, which is our PCB and electronic business and their dental and consumer product business, otherwise it is overlapping.
You see on the right side a list of impressive customers, by the way, many of them are customers of both of us. And on the left, it gives you a little bit of a taste of the kind of solution and variety of solution we apply toward the segment where we can get into mass manufacturing and mass production.
I shouldn't say -- mass is a little bit misleading, it's not mass in so much as manufacturing 40 million remote controlled TV pieces a year, we're not going to get there. We're talking about high -- medium volume and high amount of designs.
So any industry that needs digital industry, that needs to change a lot of their product lines, and the product lines are not manufactured in millions, but they're manufacturing in a lot of variety of designs. That's where we will play a major role. It's called high mix, low volume. Lastly, some acquisition details. We published it before.
But just to remind you, it was this quarter, so it's worthwhile mentioning. Acquired 100% of Desktop Metal. It's all cash transactions. People asked us, why won't you pay with shares? The answer is two; one, our share is undervalued, by far. I'm not talking about undervalued being 2.2 to 2.8 to 3.5. We believe it's undervalued in hundreds of percent.
And using the share when it's undervalued, it's obviously dilutive to our shareholders. And moreover, it is also a fact, I'm sure you remember, that we bought our shares ourselves because they were undervalued just because it made sense to have less shares and then more earnings per share when earnings come up and more value per share.
And the reason why I think you don't see it yet in the share value is because the whole corner of this industry, or the whole corner that's called this industry is getting very bad attitude from the market because of the rest of the companies that reduce their values dramatically and spend all their cash. That's the reason we're buying them.
But it will change. Total consideration is between $135 million to $180 million. Depends on a certain formula, it's expected to close in the end of the year.
And the closing condition is mostly finishing the regulatory approval process with the American authorities and getting a shareholders vote, positive shareholders vote by Desktop Metal shareholders. And it's in process right now. This is the point where we'll try you to ask questions and hopefully we'll be able to answer them. Operator, please.
Operator?.
[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Troy Jensen with Cantor Fitzgerald. Please go ahead..
Hi, gentlemen, thanks for taking my questions here. I guess -- good morning, good afternoon.
Just felt like the message this quarter was much more robotics and AI and software driven than it has been in the past, is that correct? I feel like there was a kind of notable tone change and kind of the direction of the consolidation that you guys want to pursue?.
Yes, we believe that what will sell all of our machines and I'm talking now about all including Desktop Metal and others that we are negotiating, and talking about M&A, is the software. And the analogy, if you wish, Troy, is think about you developing your product, which is the paper, the analysis with the spreadsheets and with Word.
You're totally focused on the software that enables you to do that. I don't think you know the name of the printer you have in your office. The software is driving your tool to manufacture our products, not the hardware..
Yep. All right. Understood. I kind of agree, I get it. And then how about just like your thoughts on the growth in additive versus growth in kind of the robotics market, when you think about in the next 12 months in front of you, is robotics the area that's driving growth and assuming less in additive or -- any extra color would be great..
I believe that in robotics automation and what we call Industry 4.0 and be it electronic -- additive electronics or even be it other -- I'm sorry, -- in other segments, we believe the growth there is not dramatic. Because it's established industries, but the growth exists, especially towards the digitalization of it. So it's 10%, 15% a year.
It's much more established, and we like it that way. The growth in Additive Manufacturing is now and would be and should be specific to segments of the Additive Manufacturing.
We believe segments of metal Additive Manufacturing will see much higher growth once the fitting formula for materials and materials from the printing and material for the end results product are working together well and we already see it happening.
And secondly is what I mentioned here before, drive a very serious driver of growth in the SD manufacturing section of Digital Industry 4.0 is the software and the application that is enabling people to seamlessly design and send into printing without having to deal with different stand out and every company has its own design tool and the design tools do not face another company that needs to change, and it changed historically in the software industry, for instance, for PCs.
It's all changed, and it will change here and drive growth..
Understood. And maybe if you think about the next 12 months, do you think you're going to just be more focused on the integration of Desktop Metal? Or do you think we will hear a couple of more acquisition tuck-ins. And I know you don't know for sure, but just some thoughts would be helpful. Thank you..
I think in the next 12 to 24 months, we will be focusing on both integration of the Desktop Metal and adding more acquisitions within the limit of our management capability to swallow it because one of the things you have to remember and just to make sure you're not becoming a bit junky is the acquisition is exciting, but the merger is what makes it profitable.
So we are carefully negotiating with three, four other companies. We're not going to do all of them, again, depending on their size, they are very small and we just acquired them because of specific, okay -- but if they are larger and the size of the Desktop Metal, we'll will be very careful, but we are talking to some of them..
Understood guys. Thanks for all the time, and good luck going forward..
Thank you Troy..
The next question is from Katherine Thompson with Edison. Please go ahead..
Hi, it's actually Katherine Thompson. The first question, I believe that you -- you've got teams already working with Desktop Metal to pull together integration plans for post completion.
Is there anything you can say about that process and how that's been going?.
Yes, the process is called or what we're calling it PMI, post-merger integration. And the way we run this process is we have teams from both companies working on a daily basis, both meeting in the same location, both headquarters are in Boston. So it's going to be actively straightforward to merge.
But the teams are working together, [technical difficulty] teams and on all management levels to plan why do I say to plan because formally, we can start to run the combined company one day after - sorry, one day after the closing of the transaction.
So before that, we cannot run Desktop Metal - Desktop Metal is run by it's management team, but I want to tell you something. We discovered as we get to know each other that the management team in Desktop Metal is excellent.
They are going to be integrated with our management team and they are going to make decisions together starting the day after - the day of closing. And meanwhile, the PMI, the merger integration process is a planning process, very, very, very detailed.
So when we hit the ground upon closing, we hit the ground running, and it works very, very well with between the two teams..
Great. And then kind of on a similar topic. You mentioned the timetable to get to completion.
Could you just give us a little bit more detail on kind of the rough timing for the different regulatory approvals?.
Yes. There's two regulatory approvals traditionally that are taking some time. One is Scott-Rodino which is the regulatory agencies that make sure that in any merger, you don't have a monopoly creates [technical difficulty] we don't have - while we do have overlapping products - so there's no - and noncompeting products.
So there's no issue more - we believe it's more formality. And then the CFIUS, which is the agency that look at every merger and acquisition nowadays between American company and a foreign company to make sure the emerging industries are not taken over by unfriendly, call it, national industries from all kind of places.
That's not including us, we have from Israel, which is very close and very friendly. So we believe this will be passing as well without the major issues..
Okay. And then one final question. I see that you bought back, I think, about $8 million worth of shares in the quarter.
Are you still continuing to buy back shares for the rest of the year?.
We have additional - close to $150 million allocated and approved by the Court in Israel and by our Board to buy more shares.
We are buying or not buying based on a decision that is partly connected to the price of the share, partly connected to not having inside information because that prevents us from buying when there's certain important events happening in the public doesn't know about it.
So there's many variables affecting the buying and selling - sorry, the buying of shares. But we do have a location, and we [do] have the permission to buy, and we'll do it as we see fit in the next few quarters..
Great. Okay. Thank you..
Thank you very much..
[Operator Instructions] The next question is from Sol Zelman with Gericare. Please go ahead..
Good morning, Yoav. And good morning, team. Good afternoon. So again, thanks for the great presentation. I actually just came back myself from Boston. So it has been great to see you guys. But all good. We'd love to see what you guys are doing. And I trust that you guys are working diligently on that post-merger.
Thank you for sharing the timeline for the integration with Desktop. And you have my support routing for the smooth process and success. I do have two questions on this, slightly different, but along the same track.
First one is, you touched on it that over the last, I guess, we'll call it last couple of years that you put in the various bids, the valuation of 3D companies haven't been pushed lower in the general market - and that's according to my humble opinion, it's based on the market opinion that the - their disbelief of any meaningful recovery.
So in your opinion, what kind of gross margin would indicate dynamic change in the business and provide sustainability for the future of the 3D industry? I mean just looking at the most recent press release, you have it currently at a margin of 45%, would you be happy with a number of 60%.
And that's the dynamic change? Or would you feel that it would have to be a much stronger robust number to indicate there question number one.
Question number two, is along the lines, like you had said, we're not going into M&A per se, just to have - do the acquisition as part of the integration to make sure that you're buying companies that you can actually make money with - it looks like the Nano vacated the poison pill allegations on Stratasys.
Is that an indication that there's no longer an interest in pursuing that Stratasys buyout? And if that's the case, why not officially end the $16.5 offer from last year as it's just causing the overhang on the stock.
First one [technical difficulty]. And as I told you, when we get into Industry 4.0 and we're dealing with for instance, robotics, electronic additive and construction. Those are more traditional industries, they can live with 45% easy, even with 40% gross margins.
If you're dealing with new technologies like we have in our electronics manufacturing of electronics and now with all of Desktop Metal, we must have, and you're right getting close as possible to 60%.
And as you see, our gross margin is improving, and we have now a very, very big and serious work on the acquisition of Desktop Metal to increase their gross margins.
So the combined - not for the whole company, but for whatever we have 15% to 18% investment in R&D, we must have 60% gross margin because otherwise, we will not have enough margin for profit. So your number was right. As much as the second question, Stratasys. Investment in Stratasys is strategic.
I announced it when we did it in June, if I remember right, of 2022, and if I remember right, just give or take, when we did it or the end of 2022. And the offer to buy Stratasys is obviously not going to be executed with the number that was there from half a year ago. It's irrelevant by now.
But the thinking that there's a strategic relationship between us and Stratasys and those strategic relationship can evolve moving forward is definitely there. We didn't give it up at all. We believe it's totally there.
The relationship today with Stratasys management is very friendly contrary to last year, we gave up the takeover, and we believe everything that we will do with them should be based on how we understand each other today, and we do very well. Yoav Zeif and myself are talking regularly.
So wait for future news when the time will come, I believe there's a strategic cooperation due between two companies like that. And we will be already a leader like they are leader in photopolymer. We are a leader in metal, electronics and others. So it's a good potential for cooperation..
I appreciate you doing that. Thank you very much..
Thank you..
This concludes the question-and-answer session. I'd like to turn the conference back over to the company for any closing remarks..
Thank you very much. So we completed this in 35 minutes, and I appreciate your time in this early morning for your working day in the United States. We're looking forward to speak with you soon because we actually believe we have very interesting things, events in the very near future, and we hope they will be fulfilled.
So we'll be able to use "use the excuse" and have another conference call or conference calls with you to discuss issues positive issues, and we're looking forward to that. And thank you very much for your support..
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