Thank you for standing by and welcome to Intapp's Fiscal Second Quarter 2024 Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's call is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to your host, Mr. David Trone, Senior Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead..
John Hall, Chairman and CEO of Intapp; and David Morton, Chief Financial Officer. During the course of this conference call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding trends, strategies and the anticipated performance of our business, including guidance provided for our fiscal third quarter and full year 2024.
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With that, I'll hand the conversation over to John..
global consulting firm, AlixPartners selected DealCloud to replace a legacy CRM. With technology purpose-built for the complexity of their work, the firm's corporate development team will have greater visibility in the pipeline and be better able to execute deals. And private equity-focused consulting firm.
Accordion, also recently selected DealCloud to support their growth strategy and promote collaboration among teams. They chose us over a generic cloud-based CRM because of our expertise in the market and our software's ability to suit their specific needs.
We have also seen marked growth in the legal market this quarter with the addition of several new clients, including Panama-based Galindo, Arias & Lopez, who selected Intapp Time to take advantage of our automated time capture functionality.
U.K.-based Marriott Harrison, selected Intapp Time after deciding they required a more efficient, reliable, cloud-based time tracking system. And U.S.-based Porzio, Bromberg & Newman selected Intapp Conflicts to help automate the processes associated with managing the firm's high volume of conflicts checks.
Additionally, cross-selling and upselling successes in our existing accounts continue to drive net revenue retention. Let me go through a few expansion examples. Global law firm and long-time Intapp Risk and Compliance client, Baker Botts, recently replaced a large legacy CRM with DealCloud.
The firm selected DealCloud to support its strategic growth plans in the tech and energy sectors, DealCloud's intuitive interface and relationship intelligence capabilities helped drive their selection. The firm believes they'll help its lawyers develop new business, deepen client relationships and take market share from its competitors.
Investment banking firm and DealCloud client Union Square Advisors selected our employee compliance offering to replace their previous solution. They chose our software as it offered an easier, more modern way to automate personal compliance tasks and monitor trade activity.
And we continue to see success at the world's largest accounting and consulting firms. One of our existing global accounting clients uses Intapp solutions across multiple geographies and has now expanded its use of DealCloud to its Ireland and U.K.-based corporate finance team.
DealCloud will replace the division's legacy CRM which had proved challenging to maintain and lacked adoption. DealCloud was selected over 2 large horizontal CRM options, based on our ability to deliver capabilities tailored to their transaction advisory business.
This is a great example of the power of our industry solution blueprints to meet the specific needs of even the largest and most complex professional firms. Finally, cloud wins and implementations continue to affirm our strategy as shown through a number of new Intapp time migrations in the quarter.
These include an Am Law top 10 firm which purchased Intapp Time in the cloud to benefit from features like automated data capture, mobile time entry and compliance time. Allen & Overy, one of the world's top law firms which typically uses on-prem solutions, completed a straight to cloud implementation for Intapp Time.
And one of the world's largest international law firms completed its migration of Intapp Time from on-prem to the cloud. In conclusion, we're proud of our strong second quarter performance and we're optimistic about our continued growth opportunities.
As our Q2 highlights illustrate, we continue to grow by adding new purpose-built capabilities to our platform, positioning us to help lead our industries to harness the power of generative AI and we can't wait to share our new applied AI capabilities, AI road map and new brand identity in greater detail just a few weeks from now.
We see continued opportunity to drive growth, adding new clients across a broad TAM and expanding within our existing client base. We're serving a durable end market with our subscription revenue model and industry-specific cloud platform.
We have a great growth opportunity to drive AI, cloud adoption and modernization across all the industries we serve. As always, I'd like to thank our clients, our partners, our investors, our Board and our global Intapp team for their teamwork and dedication. We hope you all join us on the 22nd for our Investor Day.
You can find the link to the webcast on our website at investors.intapp.com. Thank you all very much. With that, let me turn it over to Dave to share our Q2 results..
Thanks, John and thanks, everyone, for joining us today. I'm pleased to report our solid second quarter performance driven by strong revenue growth, expanding customer base and enhanced operational efficiency within the quarter.
These achievements collectively position us to extend our leadership as we embark on an exciting market opportunity in fiscal Q3 and Q4 of 2024 and beyond. SaaS and Support revenue was $77.1 million, up 25% year-over-year, reflecting sales to new clients and expansion of existing clients from both cross-selling and upselling sales motions.
Subscription license revenue was $14.1 million, up 29% year-over-year, largely due to several large clients opting for multiyear on-premises renewals. Total recurring revenue was $91.3 million, up 26% year-over-year. Professional services revenue was $12.7 million, experiencing a modest 5% year-over-year increase.
This growth rate is in line with our deliberate strategic shift to deemphasize professional services, opting instead to better leverage the strength of our partner network. The success of our industry solutions further contributes to clients realizing quicker time to value through an expedited implementation process.
Total revenue was $103.9 million, up 23% year-over-year, driven primarily by sales of our cloud solutions and growth of subscription license revenue. Our international businesses provides a growth opportunity to further expand and invest in the use of our platform outside of the U.S.
revenue from our international operations remained strong, contributing approximately 30% of total revenue for fiscal Q2. Q2 non-GAAP gross margin was 73.4% as compared to 71.5% in the prior year period.
Non-GAAP operating expenses were $68.6 million, a $10.9 million increase year-over-year as we continue to invest in go-to-market and product development to support our growth. As we continue to focus on our operational efficiencies, non-GAAP operating profit was $7.6 million as compared to $2.8 million in the prior year period.
Non-GAAP diluted EPS was $0.11 in the second quarter of fiscal 2024 as compared to $0.03 in the prior year period. Free cash flow which is defined as our cash flow from operations less capital expenditures, was $11.8 million for the second quarter or 11% of total revenue. We exited the quarter with $166.4 million of cash and cash equivalents.
Turning to our key metrics. Cloud ARR was up 34% year-over-year and total ARR was up 21% year-over-year. Total remaining performance obligations were $447.6 million, up 15% year-over-year.
Overall, we continue to execute our land-and-expand model, ending the quarter with more than 2,400 clients, 649 of which had ARR of at least $100,000, up from 561 in prior year period. Our net revenue retention rate underscores our ability to retain and steadily expand business with our existing customers.
This key metric was 115% which continues to track within our range of 113% to 117%. Now turning to our outlook.
For the third quarter of fiscal 2024, we expect SaaS and Support revenue between $80 million and $81 million; total revenue in the range of $107.5 million to $108.5 million; non-GAAP operating profit in the range of $6 million to $7 million; and non-GAAP EPS results of $0.06 to $0.08 using a diluted share count weighted for the quarter of approximately 81 million common shares outstanding.
For the full year fiscal '24, we expect we are increasing our SaaS and Support revenue of between $312 million and $316 million. And due to our intentional shift in the revenue contribution mix specifically reducing the emphasis on professional services, we are maintaining our total revenue in the range of $422.5 million to $426.5 million.
We also expect non-GAAP operating profit to be in the range of $27 million to $31 million and non-GAAP EPS in the range of $0.31 to $0.35 using a diluted share count weighted for fiscal year '24 of approximately 81 million common shares outstanding. And as previously noted, Intapp will be hosting our inaugural Investor Day on February 22.
During this event, we will discuss our key strategic imperatives, metrics, financial targets while providing a comprehensive overview of our company's trajectory and future plans. We look forward to sharing valuable insights with stakeholders on the significant occasion. Thank you. And I will now turn the call back to the operator..
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Koji Ikeda of Bank of America..
A couple from me. First one on AI, excited to hear about the AI launch day. And I wanted to actually follow up on a monetization question I asked you last year at our Tech Conference.
So thinking about this AI launch day, how are you planning on monetizing these new AI products? Are you introducing new premium SKUs? I mean, are the add-on SKUs or something else? Any sort of color there would be helpful..
Koji, thank you. Yes, we will have a mix. So some of the capabilities will be included in our offerings that people have subscriptions today but we will also be introducing additional SKUs based on some of the more advanced capabilities that clients have been asking for. So we're going to do both..
Got it. Got it. And I wanted to shift the next question over to net revenue retention once again in the range here of $113 million to $117 million.
Just trying to triangulate a little bit of the contributions of net revenue retention, maybe split between a couple of vectors, professional services versus financial services and then maybe of the cross-sell of DealCloud versus anything else? And how all those are playing into net revenue retention?.
Koji, it's Dave. Yes, we'll give some additional color to that at our upcoming Investor Day. I don't want to front run any of those key metrics. We also articulating what that NRR looks like for off-prem as well, albeit not everything is created equal.
And clearly, those that are advancing at a quicker rate of pace on the off-prem cloud solution, native solution. Obviously, that should have a higher clip rate..
Got it. Thank you. Looking forward to the Investor Day. Thanks so much..
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Enders of Citi..
Okay, great. I guess maybe just to start, intrigued to hear more about what's coming in the pipeline on the AI side.
As you think about the opportunity within your customers, how do you feel about what gives you the right to win for those AI use cases and what ends up becoming the differentiator for Intapp in the marketplace versus other providers that might be targeting the use cases that you're going after?.
Welcome, we're excited to be working with you.
The positioning of the company overall and the positioning of our applied AI strategy are the same which is we specialize in these professional and financial services firms, the way that they work, the uniqueness of the partnership model and the high-end advisors and investors that work in these firms and the way that they work on complex deals, engagements, matters.
And our whole angle on applied AI is to build all the capabilities of AI technologically into specific industry solutions that meet the needs of each of the practice areas, each of the deal types, each of the investment strategy teams in a way that feels compelling to the professional because somebody has really taken the time to understand how they work.
And it's a huge differentiator for us that we've built the whole company with both technologists from Silicon Valley but also a huge population of people who have come from these firms themselves, so that the solutions that we design for the end users really speak directly to them when they see it for the first time.
And the same thing for the applied AI generation of our industry solutions..
That's helpful. A couple of context there. And then Dave, maybe just on the outlook here, I just want to make sure that we're thinking about the puts and takes in the right way. It seems like there's a shift going away from services and that's the main, I guess, headwind or impact.
But how should we be thinking about what that shift would be looking like over time? And then how considered that effort is to drive, I guess, more margin out of that as well?.
No, for sure, Steve. I think over the long term, as we continue to model out, obviously we'll be looking to partner more and more with the economy that we continue to build up with the likes of partners within our ecosystem. And so, I think you've started seeing some early innings to that.
Obviously, we're going to continue to be at the forefront, touch point with our respective clients. Think of more of a longer term model as a CSAT versus a revenue driver and then we're also our path to break even margin within that specific profile.
And so, as we continue to look at the respective levers, both from growth factors as well as contribution margin, that is something that we'll continue to work on longer term. But the overall value and narrative on this value asset is clearly on our SaaS growth which continues to do very, very well and continues to be very, very durable..
Our next question comes from the line of Doug Bruehl of JPMorgan..
Congrats on the results. So looking at sales and marketing, seeing a bit of a decel in growth here.
So maybe question, how are you thinking about balancing investing in growth versus realizing profitability?.
Yes, it's a great question. I would tell you we're already started our FY '25 planning as we continue to look at the envelope and the scope that we're under today, as well as looking at productivity and areas for continued opportunity, going forward. And so, it's always going to be a balance driving that additional leverage.
And we think we can continue to scale not only with the investments that we've made over the past year or two and then continue to monetize that and hopefully see the rate of pace go from there..
Our next question comes from the line of Alex Sklar of Raymond James..
John and Dave, two-part question on DealCloud. You did some brand consolidation efforts last year. There's some nice wins that you announced in the prepared remarks this quarter. So John, first for you.
Can you talk about how much DealCloud drove those wins versus kind of what your prior offering was to the professional services market in the past? And David, any financial benefit you've seen so far in the model from that brand consolidation?.
Thanks, Alex. Yes, we consolidated our brands.
At the time of our IPO, we had a branded professional services called OnePlace that had a history that a lot of firms knew -- but the technology that even it represented was DealCloud technology and we got -- we started getting a lot of inbound calls from folks in the legal, accounting and consulting industry is asking for DealCloud by name.
So we just made a pragmatic decision to say, "Oh, we can simplify branding here and get some leverage word-of-mouth on DealCloud across our whole market." And so, it was a change for some of the people who had gone with the OnePlace brand initially but it wasn't a technology change. It was a brand change.
And there's a lot of excitement now because we have a broader community of DealCloud users that are coming together at our events, our user conferences, our advisory boards, who are all sharing best practices across these firms.
There's been a lot of enthusiasm that we actually have uncovered an underserved community here who have different professional specialties with a lot of deep expertise in each area.
But if you actually step back and look at the way that the firms go to market, they pursue opportunities in the marketplace, they pursue clients, the huge network of relationships among all these people. It's not a linear sales model.
All these firms share a very networked model going to market on covering opportunities through referrals and each other. They love talking to each other.
So I actually think the brand consolidation has turned out to be a net positive for DealCloud and we were excited to be able to name a bunch of firms this quarter who I'm very grateful said, "Hey, you can talk about us because there's a growing community of folks who really see this as the next generation.
And now that we're bringing the applied AI in, in relationship intelligence which I talked about specifically but more broadly to the DealCloud platform and the rest of the offerings that we have, there's a lot of enthusiasm for DealCloud coming in.
So, you'll see some more work on the brand simplification as we come out on February 22 because we really want to help everyone sharing that word-of-mouth across the marketplace. That's working for us..
And I would say that's probably where you're going to see that manifest in the P&L the most. is that opportunity cost of winning and being able to focus all your efforts as we continue to cross-sell and upsell across our various industries that we serve using the same technology..
Okay, that's great color. We'll look for more there in the coming quarters then. John, the other thing you mentioned on the new blueprint strategy, or the somewhat new blueprint strategy, initial win rates, is something that you're seeing track higher as one of the few positive early developments talked about in the prepared remarks.
Can you just elaborate on what you saw in terms of win rates versus prior quarters from that strategy?.
The experience when you come in and you show a blueprint that specialized -- in the previous quarter, we talked about private credit and this quarter we expanded our fund to funds blueprint.
You're getting more and more specific to each of the professional teams and the way that they talk and the way that they work and recognize -- they see that you have a solution that really understands them. And not only do you have a broad universe of 2400 clients but you've got 100 clients just like them and the types of work that they do.
And it just makes a huge psychological impression at the first moment to really appreciate our industry expertise. But then, it also gives confidence that we're going to be able to deploy and get them up and running quickly.
And so, a lot of it is time-to-value for them as well as the confidence that we're going to be able to support them and enable them over time. So we have seen strong responses both at the early end of the funnel and in any competitive conversations that come in later in the process when people need to show that they've shopped.
There's just nothing like what we're showing to this type of professional as we deploy. So we're very enthusiastic about this blueprint strategy and we're going to do more. It helps on win rate, it helps on time to value, it helps on services and getting our costs down to help people be successful and that's part of the model here.
So we're big believers in where this is going. And then, now, the whole applied AI strategy is rolling under this blueprints idea. So we really want to bring applied AI out specific to each of the professionals workflows..
Okay. That's super helpful context..
Our next question comes from the line of Saket Kalia of Barclays..
Saket, it's good to hear -- talk to you..
John, Dave apologies in advance here if some of these questions have been asked, just to kind of hopping to a couple of calls. But John, maybe for you. I guess I wonder how you think about the seasonality here in the cloud business, particularly as we look at net new ARR. We have really strong start to the year.
Net new ARR was down a little bit sequentially.
Is that sort of in line with kind of the shape that you think about in the business? Or in line with sort of your customer spending cycles? Just a little bit of color on how you think about the shape of that, based on kind of typical seasonality? Does that make sense?.
Yes, absolutely. So generally speaking, our year ends in June and some of the clients have figured that out. So we tend to have different patterns across the quarters. Some of their years, end now, some of them in the U.K. end in April. So there is some fluctuation from quarter to quarter. I think in this quarter we had strong results.
We also saw a little bit of a mix evolution. The professional services firms like legal, accounting and consulting were strong. We were very interested to see the economic reports about the hiring there that kind of matched when we saw it come out.
We also saw in investment banking a little bit of budget management from some of the large firms and we saw the economic reports and some of the news about that and that made sense to us after the quarter was over. So I think we've benefited from some of our diversification across these firms.
We've talked about that as a durable model and we've grown through lots of different parts of the economic cycle consistently because of this. But there was some of that in this quarter's results that we worked through..
Got it. That makes sense. Dave, maybe for my follow up for you, really looking forward to February 22. I think there's going to be a lot of fun stuff to talk about. And so, if this is too much of a teaser, you let me know.
But based on, I guess given your background coming from so many different SaaS businesses in the past, who do you sort of aspire to? Who do you sort of benchmark Intapp's business model to based on where you are in kind of the lifecycle where you are from a scale perspective? If that makes sense..
It does. And there's a lot of great compras [ph] that we aspire to be in the vertical SaaS and there's a reason for that, right? Because they're very purposeful-built and they've had many years of success. And so we follow in some of those footsteps as we look at kind of our evolution and kind of where we're headed to.
Clearly, we have a very unique base and that in the top couple hundred could be billions of worth of TAM with our respective clients. But we also have somewhat of a longer tail and uniqueness about us that we've got the opportunity to go and serve those respective markets as well.
And so, it's kind of going through that evolution as we apply resources and we serve these greater clients. So we're pretty excited to talk more about that coming on the 22nd and kind of where we're putting more of that wood behind that arrow.
But clearly, you've seen the resiliency within our model across both ends of that spectrum that we've articulated in some of these customer examples or client examples..
Got it. Very helpful. Looking forward to the 22nd..
Our next question comes from the line of Parker Lane of Stifel..
John, you guys have been doing applied AI for a while but clearly you're bringing a lot more AI solutions to the market. We'll see those later this month. Curious if you could talk about, I guess, the acceptance or willingness of your different end markets to leverage AI and their workflows.
Is the feedback there generally positive? Do you think there's a big opportunity in the near-term? Or is it going to take some time for people to really trust what's going on behind the scenes, get their hands on these tools before you see budgets starting to free up around AI?.
I think, there's some early adopters who are really enthusiastic because they just feel how big a potential there is for AI to make its way into these knowledge-based professionals. So much of their work is about serving large sets of data regardless of their area of expertise.
They're looking across large areas of data to try to develop a point of view, either for a deal investment decision for advice to their clients.
And then, from a daily workflow standpoint, so much of what they do is unstructured information processing to come back to clients and orchestrate deals and all these different types of advisory activities that they do, that there's a lot of excitement about the broad potential, particularly now of the generative AI store.
So there's some early folks who are in and then there's some more pragmatic folks who are saying, "This is all great. I believe it but what are we going to do about the compliance questions? What are we going to do about the information access questions? Big organization globally with a lot of knowledge buried in our systems.
If we point AI at that, how are we going to make sure that we comply with all the regulatory obligations and the client obligations that we have?" And so, this is an area that we're very focused on because we've had such a strong position in the compliance aspect of these industries and their information for so many years.
We think we can bring a unique value proposition that has all the potential of AI applied in industry-specific ways. But one of the core issues in industry-specific applications around AI here is the compliance and trust set of concerns. So this is a theme you're going to hear from us.
This is where we're going, is to bring a more compliant story to the whole AI opportunity. And we think that will lower the barriers and the concerns that anybody might have.
And so in terms of timeline, we're not making specific commitments today but I think we can do all the work to get the fastest AI deployment in these firms through that perspective..
Got it. That's really great feedback. I was curious if you could talk about the Intapp Time migration, specifically the large law firms or the ones that have held out and been on premise in the past. Why now? Is the simple question.
What incentive are people seeing to move to the cloud and what drives that inside of the laggards that you still have remaining on premise?.
Yes, it's been interesting. I think we've talked a little bit about the fact that when everybody had to go home for COVID, a lot of these firms had a wake-up moment because people could get access and have the right experience for all their traditional in-house built or on-prem solutions.
So I think that was a permanent change in the mindset; and the firms have made a cloud-first or a cloud-only commitment coming out of that. Even the most sort of legacy environments have made that commitment.
What's happening now is, firms have had a couple of years to get their IT projects organized, their priorities rolling through, clear everything out and actually start making the meaningful moves to the cloud. So we do encourage our firms to do that.
We haven't gotten really prescriptive that they must do it on a particular timeline yet and yet a lot of them have flipped and are started pulling us into the market and I think it's just a great sign.
I think, that the firms are going cloud and we're getting into a stronger and stronger position to help them benefit from all the new technology and particularly all the AI technology that you can really only get in a cloud platform. So, it's just the normal development of the market and I think this is going to go faster here..
Makes sense. I appreciate you guys taking the questions..
Our next question comes from the line of Terry Tillman of Truist Securities..
John, Dave and David, congratulations from me as well on the solid results in the quarter. I had just 2 questions. First, as it relates to -- just the ongoing relationship at multiple levels with Microsoft.
So whether it's Azure marketplace and being able to use prepaid cloud spend and just them influencing business, how is that shaping up? And then I had a follow up question for Dave..
Thanks, Terry. The Microsoft relationship is continuing to grow and develop. We're forming more and more relationships on the ground in each of the accounts. And we had some really exciting wins here in this quarter where some firms already had minimum Azure commitment contracts with Microsoft and they used that to buy from us.
And then, we even had some firms that realized they could do that and they signed up for contracts because they were going to buy Intapp and they could get some additional benefits from Microsoft. So there's a lot of positive feedback going between our field and Microsoft's field on this point and I think it is helping us. That's great to hear.
I guess, maybe the follow up question for Dave.
Any way to think about seasonality or just free cash flow the rest of the year as we move into the next couple of quarters of the second half? And then, or maybe what's the relationship of EBIT to free cash flow conversion? Just trying to understand a little bit more how we should think about our free cash flow..
Yes. First and foremost, Terry, I still think we're working on some continued operational efficiencies, just normal course.
I've been here for 6 months and we're just trying to get a little more cadence and some constants around just normal things such as our receivables and simple things like that, right? Which at face value doesn't really come up with a lot but then there's still a lot of opportunity for us to move forward.
So I would say that seasonality will, in theory come more apparent when we get into FY '25 about midway through the year. And then we can look at okay, on a normal course, how's our respective business that leads in. John, already oriented around in June for EMEA and others, as well as December here for U.S.
And so, as we continue to look at some of those bigger accounts that may move the needle with standard payment terms of 30, 60 days, clearly that would follow in the following quarters. So something we can come back and talk a little bit more in detail here in a quarter or two..
Understood. See you guys soon..
Our next question comes from the line of Matt VanVliet of BTIG..
Maybe a quick follow-up on the Microsoft partnership from Terry's question here.
But as you think about sort of the overall contribution margin when you're getting customers to come through that channel and really leverage some of those existing contracts or prepaid spend, is there a specific margin uplift we can think about? Or is it more of an overtime as more of the workloads move to Azure that you just gained the leverage on the gross margin side? Just help us think about sort of the dollar-for-dollar on a direct sale versus one that comes through the Microsoft channel..
So I think generally, I'll give some color and then Dave, you can talk about anything you want to add. The relationship so far has had a relatively small fraction of our overall business coming through this channel in that sort of way around the Azure commitments.
It is something that's causing us to win in certain large accounts that already have those. And then, as I mentioned, we've started to see some more firms come on board.
It's not our overall model today but I think there's opportunity to continue to grow the contribution that comes from the Microsoft's relationship in each and every deal as we grow the business. So I think it's early days generally on this model.
At the same time, we're getting a lot of energy and visibility and buzz working with them and meeting a lot of the clients that they have and working together in a lot of the regions around the world where they have a strong footprint and they have Azure capabilities.
So I think it is a net positive today, even though we're early in the place where that model may be a major contributor.
Dave, do you want to say more?.
Yes. No, John is spot on. When you think know some of the larger enterprise in their respective industries that we serve, not only is it check the box but it's also a great avenue for additional conversations of what can foreshadow opportunities on both ends. And so, I think that's been a great series of conversation points.
When you think about just overall impact in today's P&L, as John had noted, it's very immaterial and dollar-for-dollar it's, it's same. And so, like, we're looking longer term and how we continue to evolve both of these relationships and get some materiality that we could give some additional color on..
Okay, very helpful.
And then as you look towards the second half of the fiscal year here or out over a longer period of time, where do you stand in terms of your headcount and the needs to continue to expand that? What areas of the business do you expect to continue to sort of grow more or less in line with revenue growth and what areas do you have enough scale now that you can really kind of build into?.
I don't think we're going to grow at the levels of revenue per se, either expense or headcount. So you're always going to see some natural leverage coming off the model. As far as headcount going forward, it's primarily going to be in your product and engineering as we talk about these different items that we continue to bring online.
So we talked about the investment within AI as well as the industry solutions that we've narrated on. And so, that's been a good series of early day investments. And then moving back over, we've narrated a little bit about our partner economy. And so, we can see some small incremental investments on that.
And then, to the extent that we go further international with a broader scale and this is a little bit down the road, you can see some incremental investment in that, that's more in sales and marketing; and addressing any concerns or any areas of opportunity that we would see there..
Great. Look forward to seeing everyone in a couple of weeks..
Our next question comes from the line of Brian Schwartz of Oppenheimer..
This is Ari Friedman sitting in for Brian Schwartz. I had a question just on like international. I know, you guys had said about 30% of the revenue came from international in that 2Q? Dave, were there any geographies that came like above your expectations? Or did all geographies kind of come in line? Any color on that would be helpful..
Yes, everything pretty much came in line. It's a good series of activities. We have opportunities, obviously, going forward. And so, as we continue to expand on that. I would say, in the past, some of those opportunities have been more opportunistic versus purposeful.
And I think you'll hear us start narrating some of the international areas of opportunity more purposeful vis-à-vis, us going direct versus being pulled in on some of our hub-and-spoke with accounts. So hopefully, that gives you some additional color on that..
Thank you. Okay. That does conclude our Q&A session. I'd like to turn the call over to John Hall for any closing remarks..
Okay. Thanks, everyone. We appreciate your attention and your questions and we have a great Q2 behind us. And we're excited to talk to you again this month at Investor Day on February 22. So for now, we'll let you go. Have a great day..
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's conference. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect. Have a great day..