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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2022 - Q3
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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen. Thank you for standing by, and welcome to Intapp's Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2022 Earnings Conference Call. At this time all participants are in a listen-only. After the speakers' presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session.

[Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker host, David Trone, Senior Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead..

David Trone Senior Vice President of Investor Relations

Thank you. Welcome to Intapp's third quarter fiscal year 2022 earnings conference call. On the call with me today are John Hall, Chairman and CEO of Intapp; and Steve Robertson, Chief Financial Officer.

During the course of this conference call, we may make forward-looking statements regarding trends, strategies and the anticipated performance of our business, including guidance provided for our fourth fiscal quarter 2022, full fiscal year 2022 and fiscal year 2023.

These forward-looking statements are based on management's current views and expectations, entail certain assumptions made as of today's date and are subject to various risks and uncertainties, including those described in our SEC filings and other publicly available documents that are difficult to predict and could cause actual results to differ materially from those expressed or implied by such forward-looking statements.

Intapp disclaims any obligation to update or revise any forward-looking statements, except as required by law. Further, on today's call, we will also discuss certain non-GAAP metrics that we believe aid in the understanding of our financial results.

A reconciliation to comparable GAAP metrics can be found in today's earnings release, which is available on our website and as an exhibit to the Form 8-K furnished with the SEC prior to this call. With that, I'll hand the conversation over to John..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, David. Good afternoon, everyone, and thank you for joining us. We ended our fiscal third quarter with strong results. We continue to deliver on our mission to enable professional and financial services firms to better connect their people, processes and data through our AI-powered software solutions.

Our target firm showed continuing strong demand for digital transformation and we saw record adoption of our cloud platform. Intapp was a pioneer in targeting the professionals who work in large professional and financial services firms.

Together, these professionals lead an incredible global $3 trillion deal-making industry, yet they have been traditionally underserved by the technology industry. Traditional enterprise software products like corporate CRM or ERP were really built for product-centric corporations.

In contrast, the firms that we serve have been historically organized as partnerships. They have a unique organizational structure, go-to-market approach and value-creating workflow that is based on the expertise and market insights of the professionals, not on making and selling widgets.

Intapp's cloud solutions are purpose-built to help the professionals in these firms to build and cultivate their own area of expertise, to harness institutional knowledge across their firm, to find and win the right opportunities in the marketplace, to make better decisions using market data and to deliver better outcomes for their own investors and their clients.

Today, professional and financial services firms are rapidly adopting cloud solutions that are purpose-built for the way they do business. With Intapp's established and trusted brand, our specialized product strategy and our deep understanding of these markets, Intapp is well positioned to lead the cloud transformation for this industry.

Our strategy is working. In our third quarter, our cloud ARR grew 49% to $148 million. Cloud now represents 58% of our total ARR of $254 million, which was up 26% year-over-year. Our SaaS and support revenue was $50 million, up 35% year-over-year, and total revenue was $70 million, up 25% year-over-year.

Finally, we ended March serving over 2,050 firms in over 40 countries around the globe. Now let me share a few points on our innovation and some products that are driving this success.

We are continually evolving and enhancing our platform to help our clients leverage the power of the cloud to better harness their data, their relationships and their institutional knowledge to scale and grow their business. One such example is our new relationship intelligence capability.

Our target professionals grow their business through relationships. Our relationship intelligence capability uses Intapp's applied AI technology to generate predictive insights that help professionals to grow the key relationships who drive their business.

Harnessing metadata from contacts, e-mail and meetings across the global firm, relationship intelligence surfaces and scores the firm's overall relationships with all the participants in the marketplace based on several factors, including volume, recency and style of engagement patterns.

It then delivers insights about those relationships that help individual deal-makers to better nurture and leverage the firm's entire network of professionals to better grow their business. Here's what Scott Salpeter, the President of our client, Cassel Salpeter & Co. had to say about our new offering.

"Relationship intelligence easily surfaced relationships that we had previously identified as important, but where our interactions were not at the level they should have been.

It quickly and visually shows the depth of our firm's relationship with the contractor company." We are continuing to invest in our applied AI technology to enhance our offerings like relationship intelligence to bring actionable insights to each of the professionals we serve.

Let me turn now to a second innovation area and share a few points about our initiative to expand our footprint among professionals in the real estate segment of the private capital markets.

We continue to see a growing opportunity among both single-strategy and multi-strategy private capital firms who are pursuing real estate investment opportunities as part of their business. As a longtime bootstrapped company, we have always followed a client-driven innovation strategy.

And we entered the real estate space because many of our multi-strategy DealCloud clients asked us to expand our platform to help them support their real estate investing teams as part of our overall solution for them. Let's take a client example today.

With assets under management of $9 billion and an investment focus on alternative real estate sectors, Kayne Anderson sought a configurable enterprise-grade system that could act as the central hub for all their deals data and reporting.

Given the complex network nature of their transactions and their marketplace, they needed the ability to track complex, many-to-many relationships among all the interrelated market entities and individuals that they were working with as well as an increased ability to analyze that data and run reports about those participants in their activities, all from a single platform.

The firm had previously used a well-known large customer relationship management cloud product. Kayne Anderson viewed the transition to DealCloud as a fresh start with one platform specifically created with their unique needs, industry data and workflows in mind.

Kayne Anderson Director, Anthony Mariano, told us the difference in efficiency with DealCloud versus their previous solution was "like night and day." This is a fantastic example of the compelling benefits of our purpose-built industry cloud solution for these firms.

Next, I'd like to discuss our continued momentum and development of our partner ecosystem. First, further validating our industry cloud leadership in this market, in February, we announced a strategic partnership with Microsoft.

As you would all recognize from your own work pattern, the deal-making professionals in our market spend a huge portion of their working hours in Microsoft's Office 365 and increasingly now in Teams.

And at the firm level, their firm leaders are looking to support all the professionals in the firm with a modern, collaborative and compliant work environment that is purpose-built for the industry and brings to life the vision of a modern data-driven competitive firm of informed expert professionals.

Our partnership is an exciting chapter in our decade-long history of Microsoft to bring the benefits of the Intapp platform to our target professionals in a more seamless experience with Microsoft's technology.

Their selection of Intapp as a strategic partner validates our industry cloud leadership in this market and amplifies our ability to combine our purpose-built solutions with the Microsoft software that firms use every day.

Our collaboration will focus on accelerated innovation through embedded Microsoft technologies in areas such as AI/ML, data science, analytics and security. We have committed to programs to help our clients move to the cloud securely with joint migration support.

And going forward, we will invest in deeper integration between Microsoft Workforce Solutions and the purpose-built solutions that Intapp delivers providing even greater value to our clients. As a second example, our partners ecosystem is also growing with enhanced solutions that extend the value of our industry cloud platform in functional areas.

We recently announced a strategic partnership with proposal management software provider, QorusDocs. QorusDocs uses AI and natural language processing to automate proposal generation by sourcing answers to RFP questions directly from firm data.

Our integration combines Intapp's ability to centralize, mine and apply marketing and business development insights with QorusDocs' automated document generation capabilities. Together, we can directly integrate our combined solution with Microsoft Office applications as well.

It's an end-to-end approach to marketing and business development that helps firms to identify, pitch and win deals a new business more efficiently and effectively. Finally, last month, we expanded our relationship with KPMG. Their UK finance arm has been a DealCloud client themselves for many years.

Now we’ve expanded that relationship into a market partnership to help us support Intapp’s growing base of large enterprise-class and global firms. Our partnership with KPMG will particularly benefit large enterprise clients as they plan broad digital transformation program centered on Intapp’s cloud platform.

Intapp’s industry-specific tailored cloud solutions, combined with KPMG’s scaled capabilities in cloud transformation services, will enable us to deliver robust solutions and services to make our joint clients’ complex digital transformation program successful.

Together with KPMG, we can provide the scale of resources that our largest clients need to more smoothly improve their operations while minimizing disruptions to their people or their performance.

We are excited to partner with KPMG to enable us to further land and expand within the large opportunity space of complex global professional and financial services firms. Let me turn now to some client wins. Several notable client wins last quarter helped grow our global presence.

ADV Partners’ recent selection of DealCloud expanded our footprint in Asia. Based in Hong Kong, the private equity firm focuses on bespoke capital solutions and operational and managerial improvements.

Looking to optimize the efficiency and connectivity of Teams across multiple locations, ADV selected DealCloud to manage deals and investor relations across multiple offices. A large selling point was our ability to configure DealCloud to suit their specialized needs.

South African corporate law firm, Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr, selected our Collaboration & Content suite to simplify collaboration via Microsoft 365.

Currently using Microsoft Teams, SharePoint and Outlook, the firm needed a solution that could extend the value of their Microsoft Office 365 platform investment with capabilities that simplified compliance, governance and collaboration.

Their head of IT told us that they wanted to remove the constraints of their legacy on-premises document management system by shifting to a cloud-based solution that bridges the gap between the standard Microsoft applications that their lawyers use daily and the advanced experience that they require.

Finally, Women’s World Banking Asset Management, the investment arm of Women’s World Banking, recently selected DealCloud. This firm makes direct equity investments in financial institutions with an explicit focus on women.

They are now using DealCloud to track and report on their value-add initiatives for their portfolio companies to ensure they meet key objectives. As the size of their teams and funds were increasing, the volume of outreach and conversations in which they were engaged became too complex to manage without a robust cloud solution.

DealCloud’s tailored capabilities, including relationship intelligence, will help them better manage their pipeline and portfolio. I’d like to conclude my remarks today by thanking our loyal clients, our growing ecosystem of partners and our innovative and talented employee base for driving Intapp’s continued momentum and success.

I’ll now turn the call over to Steve to discuss our financial results..

Steve Robertson

Recurring revenue gross margins were up modestly year-over-year, driven by an increase in SaaS and support gross margins. Our services gross margin decreased year-over-year as we subcontracted for some additional services work in this quarter as compared to the prior year period.

Total non-GAAP gross margin was 67.3%, as compared to 68.1% in the prior year period, primarily reflecting a slight increase in the mix of services in the current period and a decrease in subscription license business, reflective of our clients' continuing shift to the cloud.

Non-GAAP operating expenses were $49.1 million, a $13 million increase year-over-year as we continued to invest in sales, marketing and product development to support our growth. As compared to the prior year's quarter, this spend reflects the expenses of being a publicly traded company.

Non-GAAP sales and marketing expense was $20 million, a $5.6 million increase year-over-year as a function of increased headcount and related sales commissions to capture new business in our growing markets.

Non-GAAP R&D expense was $15.3 million, a $3.2 million increase year-over-year as we increased headcount and made investments in our product road map. Non-GAAP G&A expense was $13.8 million, a $4.2 million increase year-over-year, in line with expected expense increases associated with being a publicly traded company.

Non-GAAP operating loss was $2.2 million as compared to our third quarter fiscal 2021 non-GAAP operating profit of $1.9 million, primarily reflecting planned growth investments in the business.

Non-GAAP net loss per share was $0.04 in the third quarter of fiscal 2022 as compared to a loss of $0.14 in the third quarter of fiscal 2021, primarily reflecting a year-over-year reduction in interest expense and an increase in the weighted average share count. Turning to the balance sheet.

We ended the third quarter with $42.7 million in cash and cash equivalents, an increase of $5.1 million as compared to the end of fiscal 2021. Now turning to guidance. For the fourth quarter of fiscal 2022, we expect SaaS and support revenue of between $51 million and $52 million and total revenue in the range of $71 million to $72 million.

We expect a non-GAAP operating loss in the range of $4 million to $5 million and a non-GAAP net loss per share in the range of $0.07 to $0.08 using a basic share count weighted for the quarter of approximately 62 million common shares outstanding.

For the full year fiscal 2022, we expect SaaS and support revenue of between $191 million and $192 million and total revenue in the range of $267.5 million to $268.5 million.

We also expect a non-GAAP FY 2022 operating loss in the range of $7 million to $8 million and a non-GAAP net loss per share in the range of $0.15 to $0.16 using a basic share count weighted for fiscal year 2022 of approximately 61 million common shares outstanding. One last point I'd like to make here.

As it relates to fiscal 2023 guidance, we plan to provide that guidance specifically after our next quarter's earnings release. But our initial look suggests that we will likely be guiding to approximately 20% total revenue growth for fiscal 2023, based on the strong demand that we continue to experience in our marketplace.

With that, John and I look forward to taking your questions..

Operator

[Operator instructions] And our first question coming from the line of Koji Ikeda from Bank of America. Your line is open..

Koji Ikeda

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions. Really nice quarter here. A couple from me. Wanted to firstly ask you kind of on your last comment there on the guidance or I guess, first look on the 2023 revenue growth. 20%, that's a really nice number.

I guess what are you seeing maybe in terms of the bookings trends or the pipeline or end market demand trends that's really giving you the confidence to give this number today?.

Steve Robertson

Yes. Koji, this is Steve. I think that we are seeing just strong new sales activity across the board. And as you would note, we did raise our NRR range a couple of points here and feel like we're getting good contributions, both from new logo sales and from cross-sells and upsells.

And we've talked before about some of the kind of uneven revenue you see from things like our subscription license business and we're starting to come to the end of some of the impact of that, that you would see, given all the cloud growth we've had over the last few quarters.

So we're just feeling like that's the likely place we'd be and thought we'd just put it out there at this time..

Koji Ikeda

Got it. Got it. And then just a follow-up. On that net revenue retention, the guidance range up to 110 to 114, up from 108 to 112, thinking that's for the total business so that would imply that cloud NRR, the kind of the range is much higher than that. So I was wondering if you could unpack maybe that cloud NRR piece.

Is there anything from a specific product or vertical that's driving the bulk of that kind of increase in the NRR expansion range? And do you view those drivers to be the same over the medium term here? Thank you for taking my questions..

Steve Robertson

Well, nearly all of our new sales is cloud, whether it's new logo or NRR upsell/cross-sell. So it's the same either way. I think we're seeing strong contribution from financial services and from professional services, and so it feels balanced and our markets feel pretty solid right here. John, feel free to add to that..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

I think that's right. The firms that we're calling on are continuing to execute the digital transformation programs that they put in place. They want to modernize their operation.

They historically have been underserved by the traditional horizontal software providers, and they see us increasingly through references and referrals across the industries as the player that's bringing the modern cloud platform to them.

So I think we're starting to get some real momentum here in user adoption, in cross-sells, in upsells, and we're just growing in confidence that this is a long-term trend..

Koji Ikeda

Thanks, John. Thanks, Dave. Thanks for taking my questions..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

You bet..

Operator

Your next question coming from the line of Kevin McVeigh with Credit Suisse. Your line is open..

Kevin McVeigh

Let me add my congratulations as well. Just really, really exceptional results. I wonder, can you give us just some context, I mean I know you're not necessarily tied to M&A or kind of IPO activity, but some of your clients are, yet you're seeing acceleration in the adoption.

Is it the scope of things that they're focusing on that's driving that? Or just any puts and takes just given the current environment because the fundamentals are strengthening despite the market volatility that a lot of your clients serve..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks, Kevin. Yes, the core of our end markets are the private capital markets, which is a secular growth industry of 20%, give or take, that has sustained itself even through the economic cycle past couple of times. So we're selling to a growth industry that has more and more dry powder.

And multiples go up and down, but they're investing through those. And then the advisory community around those investors are helping them to make those deals, whether it's the initial fund formation or deployment of capital or disposing of assets at the end of the holding period and realizing some return on those.

And all of those factors are kind of at the center of our growth pattern. And then we have a whole set of expansion capabilities within all of those advisory firms as well for some of their other activities. So over the course of our company's history, we've grown right through the whole economic cycle two or three times.

And I think the long-term trend for the private capital markets is to gain traction on the public markets as a form of investment, and we're very well positioned to take benefit from that..

Kevin McVeigh

That's super helpful. And then just my follow-up was the Microsoft partnership and KPMG seem really, really interesting. Should we expect other partnerships like that because it feels like that's driving a structurally higher level of client engagement in terms of just the spend.

And without getting too specific, are there other examples of where we should expect that type of collaboration going forward?.

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

We're very excited about both the Microsoft and the KPMG partnership.

And as you might recall, as we were coming public, one of the things we were talking about is we got more traction in the marketplace and got more scale, we would be able to form relationships with some of the larger strategic partners in the market, and I'm very excited that we're at a stage now where that's starting to happen.

And you're right, it's helping us to have a higher level of engagement with the firms, particularly the large complex global institutions where there's just a huge upside for us to sell through our platforms to all the different components inside one of these big global institutions.

And one of the things that we've talked about is that just within our top 100 clients, although we claim them when we win the logo in some form, there's $1 billion of additional upsell and cross-sell that we can do if we never sold another logo beyond our initial 100 that we have today.

So building out this ecosystem of capability to help us tie ourselves deeper and deeper into these large firms is going to support our growth there. We will continue to look for additional partnerships as we scale.

We're not announcing anything like that today, but it's part of our growth strategy to build out our ecosystem and to get a rich ecosystem that gives the big firms more and more support options in the way that they work with us..

Kevin McVeigh

So just a really, really amazing job. Congrats again..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks very much..

Operator

And our next question coming from the line of Alex Sklar with Raymond James. Your line is open..

Alex Sklar

Thanks, John. Maybe to start, I wanted to ask about the new Intapp document solution for legal that you all announced this week. It sounds like there might be some repackaging of solutions that you had plus acquired with Repstor.

But is that solution targeting kind of the larger document management system opportunity? And can you provide any color on kind of the value proposition, particularly for your existing legal customers?.

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Sure. So this absolutely was the expansion of some of the technology and expertise that we acquired with the Repstor acquisition that we did just before we came public last year. As you will recall, we've done seven acquisitions over our history, and we're going to look opportunistically at M&A in our future.

This particular one expanded out our platform into areas of Microsoft Office, Teams, 365, SharePoint.

And one of the things that we've discovered is that as is our tradition, our client users in many of our firms, in this case, from the law firms, the outside council law firms who circulate in the industry and go into sometimes in-house corporate legal departments, experienced the technology that they had there and said, "Wow, we could really use what Intapp is bringing to market in this area." And a lot of the corporate legal departments have not had great success with the large corporate document management systems.

They have made a big commitment to Microsoft Office 365 and Teams. They want the collaborative experience and they want it embedded directly in the working environment that most of them spend their days in, which is Outlook and SharePoint and Teams in those systems.

And so our approach to this whole category is to leverage the environment that the firm's professionals are already working in, in this case, the company's department lawyers already working in. And the solution there is something that's easy for them to adopt.

It's something that we can get through the IT departments there because they're already committed to Microsoft in a big way, and it brings a lot of value quickly to the users there. So we're excited about this. It's a good example of the way that the professionals across this deal-making ecosystem circulate a little bit.

And historically, that's been our market expansion strategy is to follow the clients and follow the demand and bring them products that releverage the platform that we've already invested in..

Alex Sklar

Okay. That's great color. And as a follow-up for you, Steve, just maybe following up on Koji's question as well, the 20% outlook for 2023 look – is really impressive. As the kind of comps get harder here post the Repstor acquisition, it does look like it's an acceleration versus what's implied for the fourth quarter guide.

I just want to see if there's anything timing-related there you could call out..

Steve Robertson

Well, I'm not sure I completely followed that, exactly how you phrased that. I think that this is just how we feel it's looking right now going forward and thought we would put it out there. I mean, the fourth quarter will come.

When it comes, I think we've suggested in the past, there are some interesting comparisons quarter-over-quarter, particularly as it relates to our subscription license business that are sometimes a little tough to work through, and that will be another one in Q4.

But as I said, after that, I feel like with our growth in cloud, given the percentage of our overall mix and the way this is going, I think that will start to be less and less a factor for everybody as they try to model our business. So that would be helpful and good..

Alex Sklar

Okay, great. Thank you..

Operator

And our next question coming from the line of Parker Lane with Stifel. Your line is open..

Parker Lane

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking my questions.

Just looking at the target again for next year, how much of that considers migrations of the base versus net new? Are you seeing any acceleration in the pace of customer migrations? Or did that held really steady here?.

Steve Robertson

No. I would say it's pretty steady. We're still at sort of low single to mid-millions per year kind of steady cloud migrations, again, at the moment at the pace that makes sense for our client base and that continues. And so, no particular acceleration there. It's the same consistent pattern we're seeing for now..

Parker Lane

Got it. Understood. And then nice growth in the $100,000-plus customer cohort over the last year.

Are you seeing larger and larger organizations moving into that cohort? Or has it really come from a balanced approach of those customers that have been with you for a long time, moving up into the cohort as well as your sales teams going out there and capturing more of the large sale opportunities?.

Steve Robertson

Yes. I would say it's a good mix of both. I mean, John, you might want to add color, but I think we do see both. We land – we can land heavier at $100,000-plus for sure and we can also grow clients over that amount as part of an upsell or cross-sell. So it's a good mix..

Parker Lane

Got it. Appreciate the color. Congrats on the quarter..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks..

Operator

And our next question coming from the line of Arvind Ramnani with Piper Sandler. Your line is open..

Arvind Ramnani

Thanks for taking my question. Good set of results. Just a couple of quick questions.

As far as like kind of the macro environment and sort of potential for recession, I mean, have you all kind of thought of that? Is that – any of those things, kind of macro factors, kind of incorporated as you think about the 20% growth for next year?.

Steve Robertson

Well, I'll start and maybe, John, you can elaborate. I mean we're certainly mindful of what's going in the market for sure and the threats of recession and so on. I think – and we're thinking about that. But as John said, we are seeing strong momentum in the business.

The spend on technology for our solutions for our clients is a relatively small part of their fairly profitable P&Ls, and they have – they are – the digital transformation trend is a strong one, and it's a value-added thing for our clients to be doing and they're doing it.

So we're mindful of it but I think we feel relatively good about where we are right now. So yes, I have considered that for sure..

Arvind Ramnani

Okay. Perfect. And then the other thing is from a product development perspective, I mean, you clearly rely on technical talent.

How has kind of the talent environment been with some of the capacity being kind of sucked out of this Eastern Europe and Russian region? Are you still able to like recruit and retain your talent? Just if you can comment on that, that would be great..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. There's definitely a tight talent market for technical talent in particular, we're looking out there. One of the reasons that we are excited about some of the partnerships and some of the other things that we've talked about is that we're growing the ecosystem.

It gives us more access to resources to help meet the demand coming from all these firms. We're also recruiting aggressively ourselves. It's taking a little longer to get people in this environment, obviously, but we're doing it.

So I think that's going to be a continuous part of our project, to make sure that we are continuing to focus and get the best possible talent and get them into the company and get them helping us to execute the vision.

I will say on the flip side, we've seen some excellent, excellent talent come to the company over the past few quarters, some from even our competitors or our clients who see the progress that we're making and the brand that we're establishing in a lot of these very prestigious end markets that is very attractive.

And so folks are having a lot of success joining us, and I think that's going to help us even in a tight market. But it's something that we've got to pay attention to..

Arvind Ramnani

All right. Perfect. And if I could just slip one more in.

Just given some of the valuations coming in, are you kind of looking at sort of the opportunity for M&A? Or is it not like a big priority now?.

Steve Robertson

Well, I would say, look, we're always looking. That's part of our – it's one of the drivers of our business over time, as John said, and you can see and know. But yes, in a market like this, it's kind of an interesting one to do deals, I would think.

But we are always looking, and I would say there's nothing in particular here that we would talk about, but it's always part of the program to keep looking..

Arvind Ramnani

Perfect. Thank you very much..

Operator

And our next question coming from the line of Terry Tillman with Truist Securities. Your line is open..

Connor Passarella

Hi. This is Connor Passarella on for Terry. First one here. So you've mentioned that you're seeing some solid momentum with new logos. I'm just curious if there's been any shift in terms of maybe where you might be landing within the client organization.

So as you gain traction, you kind of – do you kind of find yourself speaking more with senior management at client companies to start to realize the importance of a cloud transition on an enterprise scale?.

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Thanks, Connor. It is true. We are – as we grow and grow within many of the clients that we're working with, increasingly talking with more senior people inside the organization who view the cloud transformation as an important component of an overall strategy of modernization for their firms, that has several benefits.

They want to become more efficient operationally and economically. They want to inform their professionals with better data about the markets that they're competing in. They want to arm those folks with better insights to make wise investment decisions and provide the right kind of advice to their clients. And there's a talent war as well.

I mean all of our end market firms are competing in their own version of the talent war. And the current generations of people coming into these firms want to work in a modern, cloud-enabled way.

And so there's sort of macro trends there that are driving these folks to continue to see this as a strategic decision to modernize the firm and execute the digital transformation program.

So at all size of the firm, from the smaller ones, the midsized ones, the larger ones, we are moving up in the audiences that we're calling on, to talk to people who have more of a strategic view, which I think is one of the reasons why we have some confidence that this is actually a meaningful trend over the long term, that these firms are just going to have to get with the times and get systems in that help them to compete and create the right environment for their people..

Connor Passarella

Got it. Appreciate the color there. Maybe just one quick follow-up.

So as you've been adding more headcount to support and client success teams, what kinds of use cases are you seeing as a result of maybe stronger client relationships? And maybe how have your investments here helped to accelerate expansion so you can show your value faster and grow more quickly?.

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. Thank you. So we are growing our client success and support teams as well as our services group as well as our account management group. We've been doing that consistently each quarter as we've grown the business.

And part of what we do is engage with each client on a regular basis to help them explore additional areas where they can deploy the system. It's part of our take care of them, client success efforts. It's also part of our account expansion, land-and-expand strategy. So specifically, we're seeing opportunities in relationship intelligence.

We're seeing – this expansion in the real estate area came directly from this kind of conversation with some of our multi-strategy private capital firms that needed help with their real estate investment groups.

We've done the same thing in this corporate legal expansion that we've done, where the clients themselves have pulled us in to go pursue that market segment with some of the solutions we developed for the outside counsel firms.

So there's a lot of organic land-and-expand momentum inside our business based on the operating model of how we engage with folks.

The team has just done a tremendous job in our account management program over the past three or four quarters as we've invested more in both account management and services and client success and support to try to grow our footprint inside these firms..

Connor Passarella

Perfect. Appreciate the color. Thanks..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question coming from the line of Brian Schwartz with Oppenheimer..

Brian Schwartz

Yes. Hi. Thanks for taking my questions this afternoon. John, I was wondering if you could just give us an update, provide any color on what you're seeing in terms of the demand activity, maybe the pipeline momentum in your international markets. You did talk about some real nice customer wins in your introductory comment.

But can you shed any light into kind of what you're seeing in terms of the customer discussions and the pipeline momentum in your international business? And then I have a follow-up for Steve..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks, Brian. Yes, as you all may recall, the company does about 30% of its business outside North America, and we've been consistently growing. Originally, we started off in places like the UK. and Australia, but we've been consistently growing in Continental Europe, in the Middle East, in Africa, in Asia.

And we've been adding clients in each of those areas and growing the clients that we've won in each of those areas in a very similar pattern to what we started doing in the United States and North America. So the international program is an important aspect to our growth strategy. It's a meaningful pillar for keeping our growth rate up.

It's growing about the same rate as the rest of the business, so it's kind of in line as we continue to grow. But it's a great opportunity. We wanted to highlight some of that and some of those examples..

Brian Schwartz

Thanks for that color, John. And then, Steve, the follow-up question I have, just wanted to ask about the services capacity here for the company. You mentioned in your introductory comments that you outsourced some of the services work here in the quarter when you were talking about the margin. I'm just wondering if that is lingering.

Or I guess the question is, how do you feel in terms of the services capacity, being able to implement all these new customers in a timely fashion versus having to outsource more of that work? Thanks..

Steve Robertson

Yes. Yes. No. I think we feel pretty good about our capacity over time. And we are hiring steadily and regularly to keep pace with the growth in the business and then the growth in the services business. This may be have been a little bit temporary here right now.

We had some reasons to sort of do a little more subcontracted than we might normally do this particular quarter. But I don't expect that's a permanent thing at all. I'm pretty comfortable with our capacity. It's not all that hard to get the services people we need in, but we have to keep at it. As John said, it's a tight market..

Operator

Thank you. And I'm showing no further questions at this time. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. John Hall for any closing remarks..

John Hall Chairman & Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thank you, everyone. We appreciate your attention and your questions. We have a great Q3 behind us and we're very excited about the continuing momentum. Thanks for your time today, and we'll look forward to talking to you all next quarter..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference with today. Thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect..

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