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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2016 - Q4
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Executives

Eric M. Cerny - Fossil Group, Inc. Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc. Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc. Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc..

Analysts

Oliver Chen - Cowen & Co. LLC Omar Saad - Evercore ISI Edward J. Yruma - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc./Pacific Crest Securities Erinn E. Murphy - Piper Jaffray & Co. Simeon A. Siegel - Nomura/Instinet Anna Andreeva - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc. Scott D. Krasik - The Buckingham Research Group, Inc.

Ike Boruchow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC Betty Chen - Mizuho Securities USA, Inc. Dana Lauren Telsey - Telsey Advisory Group LLC.

Operator

Welcome to Fossil Group's Fourth Quarter 2016 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct the question-and-answer session, and instructions will follow. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded. I'd like to turn the call over the Eric Cerny, Investor Relations..

Eric M. Cerny - Fossil Group, Inc.

Thank you, and good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for joining us, and welcome to Fossil Group's fourth quarter 2016 earnings conference call.

I would like to remind you that information made available during this conference call contains forward-looking information and actual results could differ materially from those that will be projected during this call.

Fossil Group's policy on forward-looking statements and additional information concerning a number of factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from such statements is readily available in our Form 8-K and 10-Q reports filed with the SEC.

In addition, the company assumes no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise, except as required by law.

Please note that you can find a reconciliation and other information regarding non-GAAP financial measures discussed on this call and our earnings release filed on Form 8-K and in the Investors section of our website. Please note you may listen to a live webcast or a replay of this call by visiting fossilgroup.com under the Investors section.

Now, I'd like to turn the call over to the company's Chairman and CEO, Kosta Kartsotis..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

executing against our New World Fossil initiative and building upon the early success of wearables in a meaningful way. In 2016, we saw broad-based global acceptance of wearables across all channels.

We saw it in our own retail with the successful performance of Fossil Q; and across our wholesale channels with the introduction of wearables across our licensed portfolio. Adding technology features and new functionality to our watches open the door to new distribution in the CE channel; a channel not previously available to our fashion brands.

During the fourth quarter, the one thing we learned clearly is that we can sell wearables of scale in all of our channels. We also learned that the customer for these is largely female, younger, might not have been an avid watch wearer, and is willing to pay more for an innovative wrist device.

In 2017, we'll double our efforts in wearables by launching over 300 SKUs, introducing most of our brands to the platform. Keep in mind that the products launching this year are much improved even from last year.

There are more innovations in function and design, more vibrant screens, better software and apps, and they are slimmer and sleeker, which will attract even more females to the category. We had a great response to the new products at CES in January and quite a lot of very positive press.

For example, our new Misfit Vapor, a display smartwatch, won six awards at the show, including PC Magazine's Best of CES 2017. So we have turned what was once a headwind for our business into a tailwind that should only continue to get stronger.

To step back for a second, as you know, the global watch market has experienced significant disruption over the last couple of years. Prior to that, we were clearly positioned as the competitively advantaged leader in a growing category.

However, with the introduction of technology into wrist devices, traditional watches came under pressure and we were disadvantaged. We didn't have the technology capabilities to compete with smartwatches, leading to a decline in our addressable market.

Adding a technology platform and introducing new functionality to our watches has enabled us to expand our addressable market to include not only traditional fashion watches, but the wearables category as well.

Now, we are aggressively competing to take share in a market that is 30% larger than the single category market we competed in just two years ago. And the wearables market happens to be growing at a 20% CAGR, faster than the traditional watch market was during its peak.

Looking at each opportunity, display watches are already the largest segment within the wearables market and expected to approach $15 billion in 2020.

With the Android platform representing the majority of the category and research shows 80% of the global phone market, we can uniquely compete with brands, fashion, style; and our Android Wear watches can connect to almost any smartphone in the world. Not every supplier can say that, and that can be a significant advantage to us.

We also believe we are uniquely positioned to drive business in hybrid watches, a market expected to grow to $7 billion in 2020. These watches look like traditional watches and incorporate the same design, style, fashion and branding and have become the hallmark of what we do.

These watches offer a robust branded app experience and an enhanced feature set that is broad, incorporates fitness tracking, sleep monitoring and notifications, all without the hassle of routine charging.

In doing this, we created a new connected watch movement; a watch movement that we believe will be the standard-bearer going forward for our watches.

With our advantages of design and branding and scale to drive attractive economics, we believe this to be a very significant opportunity to gain share in the watch business and to draw renewed interest and new customers to the business. In our experience, energetic innovation in watches always drives consumer interest.

With connected jewelry, we can do to trackers, a market expected to grow to $4 billion in 2020, what our hybrid watches can do to traditional watches, turn a beautifully designed and styled accessory into a technology device with compelling functionality.

Overall, we feel with our new technology capabilities, we are even more competitively advantaged today and positioned to gain share as the two wrist businesses of watches and wearables collide. Our objective is to disrupt the watch business with connectivity, and to compete in the wearables business with style, branding and story-telling.

We maintain the same advantages we've always enjoyed around design and branding. And our significant scale and distribution have enabled us to reach more consumers than our competitors. That particular mode around our business model is still intact and a strong advantage.

We can bring our success in the traditional watch base to wearables, given our scale and compelling economics. We learned in the fourth quarter that in the wearable space price is important, and we intend to increase our market share by fine-tuning our price points to be ultra competitive in the category, particularly for our own brands.

By driving volume, we will be able to improve our product cost to provide the right long-term product margins for the category. Regarding our New World Fossil initiative, we will be relentless in pursuing the full potential of the initiative in 2017 and beyond. We are working to drive efficiencies in everything we do, from production to distribution.

We'll continue to make adjustments to our store fleet as we push to meet the customer wherever they choose to shop today or in the future. With the new operating structure in place, we'll have a tremendous opportunity to leverage as we drive growth.

Operating with a leaner infrastructure and an enhanced business model, we expect to drive $200 million in improved operating profit over time. Beyond those two key priorities, we will continue to maximize the power of FOSSIL and SKAGEN, with an emphasis on innovation and work to stabilize and grow our licensed brands.

We remain focused on driving growth by increasing our market share. And with an enhanced set of competitive advantages, we intend to be aggressive in the marketplace with the potential for adding new licenses, driving growth with existing brands, and continuing to grow our own brands.

In closing, we continue to be confident in the strategies we're pursuing and their ability to enable us to improve our financial performance and drive long-term shareholder value.

Our success with wearables over the last year clearly shows that the pursuit of the category and the expansion of our addressable market are significant long-term opportunities for the company.

And as we build a more nimble and responsive operating platform through our New World Fossil initiative, we'll be in even better positioned to improve profitability in a very leverageable business model. And now, I'd like to turn the call over to Dennis for more detail..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

Thanks, Kosta, and good afternoon, everyone. Before I get into our review of the fourth quarter, I want to elaborate on Kosta's thoughts about our major priorities for 2017 and how delivering on those will position the company for longer term success.

In doing so, I want to draw your attention to the guidepost that should become evident to you as we execute against our goals to drive growth in wearables and improve our financial performance through New World Fossil over the coming year. To begin, I want to first review the recent changes in our model.

Between 2014 and 2016, currency has eroded our sales by $250 million and our operating income by $150 million. In that same period, operating margins have declined by roughly 11 points, from 16% in 2014 to 2016's 5%, which excludes restructuring charges. Roughly four of those points reflect the negative impact of currency.

Unfortunately, with the recent further strengthening of the U.S. dollar, these top line earnings and margin pressures will intensify in 2017. Beyond currency, nearly all of the remainder of the margin compression comes from a higher expense rate, roughly 6 points, given sales declines over that timeframe.

Since 2014, our sales have declined at roughly a 3% rate and down 7% including the currency impact. During that same time, our expenses remained flat.

However, within that expense base, there has been a significant shift to investing in our strategic priorities to drive growth, building brand awareness, enhancing marketing, building our omnichannel platform and, of course, wearables. Since 2014, these have added about $90 million to our expense base, the majority of which relates to wearables.

And we have funded those investments by reducing infrastructure and underproductive store costs. These new investments, especially wearables, have not yet driven their ultimate returns; and the reductions in the expense base has not been sufficient to both fund these new investments and prevent the de-leverage given the top line headwinds.

Now, as we pivot to the future, our investments in these strategic priorities to drive growth are largely in place. Where we still have work to do is further optimizing our base cost structure, eliminating additional underproductive stores, and enhancing our margins. That is the objective of New World Fossil.

We believe that we can return to low-teen operating margins in the future, and our ability to do that turns principally on three key factors. First is New World Fossil.

As you know, the financial goal of the program is to improve profitability by at least $200 million over time, and we'll invest up to $150 million in one-time cost to drive that annuity. We're still in the very early stages of the program, but we've already made great progress.

Through the changes we've already executed, adjusting our organization and store fleet, improving contractual terms and consolidating facilities among others, we believe we've achieved nearly 40% of that goal already which should benefit 2017 and help offset other headwinds.

There is more work to be done, and some of that work will take longer to achieve. Through our design-to-value work, we can develop products with an understanding of which features consumers value most and eliminate features that only serve to add cost.

We look to optimize the way we source products to better leverage our significant volumes across all brands. We're adjusting our SKU count to lower cost by reducing the long tail of underproductive SKUs and tell better and more focused stories.

Traditional watch SKUs are already down 16% compared to a year ago, and our teams are working to further reduce those SKUs. Margin initiatives take longer to deliver P&L benefits, given design calendars, production cycles and time to market.

However, given the great progress we've made to-date, we are optimistic about achieving the full financial goal of the program. Next is growth. We believe we can achieve our low-teen margin goals with only modest single-digit revenue growth, and we feel our opportunities can be much larger.

Looking back to 2014, we estimate our addressable watch market at our price points, which at the time was limited to non-tech devices, was roughly $35 billion. Since then, industry estimates suggest the traditional watch market has been declining in the low to mid-single digits, driven mainly by the disruption of technology.

We slightly over-indexed that decline in part because of the enormous historical growth of the Michael Kors brand. But until recently, we have not been able to meaningfully address the consumer's demand for technology on the wrist. That, we believe, has now changed.

For 2016, we sold more than 1.5 million wearables devices and generated sales of almost $170 million. The majority of those sales were fourth quarter smartwatch sales for Fossil and Michael Kors. We did roll out more brands in a more limited way late last year for a total of eight brands, and we're excited to build on the momentum for 2017.

With the strong success of Fossil and Michael Kors wearables, there is clearly a place for fashion and branding in tech-enabled wrist devices.

In the short time since we launched, both of these brands have experienced more than a 10-point improvement in watch growth trajectory since the first quarter of 2016; and that has been driven primarily with display watches.

With an overall company sales decline of just under 6% last year, if our experience with Fossil and Michael Kors reflects the growth power that wearables can bring to our model, that could be the catalyst to ultimately turn our net headwinds into tailwinds and drive us back to at least a single-digit growth rate.

The structure to support that growth is in place. Our omnichannel platform is working and driving growth, 40% last year; and we've expanded our global distribution reach with new CE channel partners. With our investments now largely in place and the benefits of New World Fossil, we can drive significant margin expansion on relatively modest growth.

We are now competing in the wearables market for wrist devices that analysis shows was $13 billion in 2016 and is forecasted to double in four years, and all that growth is expected from watches.

We've always viewed the wearables and traditional watch markets as converging, and these estimates would suggest that our addressable wrist device market is now roughly 30% larger than it was in 2014 and growing. As Kosta shared with you, at every point within this market we believe we have significant advantages.

Across the full spectrum of the wrist device market, whether traditional, hybrid or a full display watch, we can address all of those segments in a way that no one else can given our design and branding capabilities, significant scale and distribution, and scalable technology platform.

The third driver of future margin expansion will be connected margins. As we've entered the market, we've been adjusting pricing to find a sweet spot in the market. The changes we made in Q4 drove significant acceleration in volumes obviously at the expense of margins. Scale in Android Wear fashion watches can be a significant advantage to us.

In 2016, we achieved wearables margins in the mid-40% range. Our strategy for 2017 is to invest roughly 10 points of near-term connected margins to drive the volume momentum that we can then use as currency with our suppliers to drive cost down through better volume pricing and to enable them to confidently invest in automation.

We are deeply engaged with or connected supply chain partners and are working with them on costing models as we achieve greater scale.

We believe that even with just a modest single-digit share of the market, we can drive sufficient cost improvements to at least restore the connected margins we achieved in 2016; and even greater volume could support improvement beyond that. We still have a lot to learn in pricing, which could also be a factor that can and will affect those margins.

So with that context of our long-term vision, let me examine our Q4 performance and share our expectation for 2017. Fourth quarter constant currency net sales decreased 2% and on a reported basis decreased 3% to $959 million. During the quarter, we achieved sequential improvement across all three regions driven mainly by wearables.

For the quarter, reported diluted earnings per share were $1.03, compared to $1.46 last year. Excluding restructuring charges, diluted EPS was $1.24, with the decline compared to last year largely driven by lower sales and gross margin. This year's EPS was negatively impacted by $0.22 due to the strong U.S.

dollar and the benefit of last year's hedging activity, $0.21 of restructuring charges, and $0.08 due to Misfit purchase accounting charges. Last year's fourth quarter EPS included $0.13 for Misfit transaction costs, $0.14 of impairment charges, and $0.04 of restructuring charges. Recapping the quarter, let's start with watch sales.

While it is still early, the strong performance of wearables is proving to be the catalyst to offset the recent headwinds in the watch category.

Overall watch sales were virtually flat on a constant currency basis versus last year's fourth quarter, a significant improvement from the first half of 2016 when watch sales were declining in the high-single digits.

For the quarter, wearables grew to represent more than 11% of our total sales, with sales across eight brands, dominated by the strong performance of Fossil and Michael Kors display watches. Watch performance was very strong for both these brands, with Fossil increasing double-digits in constant currency for the quarter.

And for Michael Kors, watch sales were flat, a substantial change in trend. And consumer acceptance has been very strong. Based on data reported by our American channel partners, combined with our own, retail watch sell-through trajectories have improved double-digits for both these brands since the beginning of 2016.

Jewelry and leathers declined during the quarter, with leathers continuing to be weak as customer response to the assortment continues to put pressure on results. Fossil grew 2% in constant dollars compared to last year, driven by watch growth in all three regions. The double-digit watch growth more than offset declines in jewelry and leathers.

Overall sales growth in Asia and Europe was partially offset by a decline in the Americas. SKAGEN sales grew 8% in constant dollars, with watches driving the growth and jewelry and leathers also contributing. Growth in Asia and Europe was partially offset by a decline in the Americas.

In the retail channel, store comps declined 7%, though only 3% considering our strong e-comm performance where sales increased 50% in the quarter. The investments we've made in our omnichannel platform are certainly leveraging the continuing consumer preference to experience brands and shop online.

Overall, retail comps increased in Asia, but declined in Europe and the Americas. Globally, within our retail channel, performance was consistent across our Fossil full-price and outlet stores. Now, from a regional perspective. In the Americas, fourth quarter reported sales decreased 7% to $483 million, a 6% constant dollar decrease.

Traditional watches and leathers drove the overall decline. In watches and across brands, Fossil and Tory Burch delivered solid increases, offset by declines in traditional watches and nearly all of the other brands in the portfolio.

Michael Kors Access continued to have a positive impact on the brand, nearly offsetting the entire decline in traditional watches. Both wholesale and retail sales declined in the quarter, with wholesale representing the majority of the decline in the region.

In Europe, reported sales decreased 4% to $333 million, a 1% constant dollar increase with growth in watches driven by wearables, partially offset by declines in jewelry and leather. Within the region, continued growth in FOSSIL and SKAGEN drove the increase, partially offset by a decline in the licensed portfolio.

Growth in our travel retail business and in Spain was partially offset by declines in UK and Germany. Sell-throughs for traditional watches in some key markets in the wholesale channel continue to decline, offset by sell-in of wearables. In Asia, reported sales increased 13% to $144 million with constant dollar sales increasing 12%.

We delivered growth in all three categories, with particular strength in watches driven by wearables. Constant dollar growth in India, China and Australia was partially offset by a decline in Taiwan. Comp store sales increased in the region in both our full-price and outlet FOSSIL brand stores.

In the quarter, gross profit decreased to $489 million, and gross margin declined 200 basis points to 51%. Promotions mainly to drive outlet business continued to be the biggest headwind for gross margin, while wearables mix represented roughly half of the net margin decline.

The currency headwinds of earlier in the year abated somewhat in the fourth quarter, so we do expect these headwinds to intensify in 2017. Our margin improvement initiatives, along with the benefit of operating with much lower and cleaner inventories, helped to partially offset these headwinds.

Fourth quarter reported operating expenses decreased $14 million, or 3%, to $423 million and included $13 million of restructuring costs primarily related to store closure.

Our normalized expenses, which exclude for both 2016 and 2015 restructuring charges, impairments, Misfit acquisition cost and purchase accounting charges, were down compared to last year.

This was slightly better than our original guidance and driven by lower core infrastructure and store cost, but we did invest slightly more in marketing and building out our wearables team.

Nearly all of our Q4 restructuring charges supported our efforts to optimize our retail store fleet as we closed 27 stores, 12 full-price and 15 outlets, primarily in the Americas. Operating income decreased to $66 million, including unfavorable impact of $7 million from currencies and $13 million from restructuring charges.

Operating margin decreased to 6.9%, including a 60 basis point headwind from currencies and approximately 140 basis point headwind from restructuring cost. Fourth quarter other income decreased roughly $4 million, to $8 million, due to lower gains on foreign currency contracts compared to the prior year. Interest expense increased $2 million.

Our effective income tax rate for the quarter was 23% compared to last year's 24%. Fourth quarter net income decreased to $50 million, primarily due to lower sales, and gross margins, and a reduction in other income due to the prior-year benefits from hedging activities, partially offset by lower expenses and taxes.

Now, turning to our cash flows and balance sheet. For the full year, we generated operating cash flow of $210 million, compared to $361 million in the prior year. We invested $66 million in CapEx; $7 million in share repurchases, reduced borrowing by $171 million, and realized $42 million in real estate sales proceeds.

We ended the year with roughly $297 million in cash, compared to $289 million last year; and debt of $636 million, compared to $808 million a year ago. We're very pleased with our efforts to manage capital tightly and maintain tight inventories. Year-end inventory was $542 million, down 13% from the prior year.

Our traditional watch inventories declined significantly as we are building wearables inventories to support our growth. Accounts receivable increased by 1% to roughly $376 million, and wholesale DSO increased by one day compared to the prior year.

Depreciation and amortization expense totaled $21 million for the quarter and $95 million for the full year. So now let me share our outlook for 2017. Before I go into the details, let me first discuss GAAP versus non-GAAP measures.

There are several factors that will cause volatility in 2017 GAAP EPS, currency changes, restructuring charges, higher interest expenses, and income tax benefits that will result primarily from restructuring charges, as well as certain changes in tax accounting standards.

In order to assist investors in understanding our underlying operational trends, I will isolate and quantify the impact of those factors in my analysis. We will also provide both GAAP guidance and also a non-GAAP analysis that neutralizes the effect of these factors for both 2017 and 2016 and also neutralizes the impact of a real estate gain in 2016.

In today's earnings release, we have provided a table that quantifies these items for both 2017 and 2016 and reconciles our GAAP to our non-GAAP disclosures. As we move then to 2017, we expect that the rollout of wearables can continue to be the catalyst to offset the headwinds from traditional watches.

Our goal is to drive modest overall constant dollar sales growth for the year, so that growth will be skewed towards the second half of the year. At current rates, the weaker U.S. dollar will absorb that growth.

We expect our wearables business will grow progressively throughout the year as we continue to introduce more products and bring additional brands onto the platform. We're planning our largest wearables sales increase for the third quarter as we launch next-gen display watches for Fossil and Michael Kors and add other brands.

Still more we'll rollout in the fourth quarter. We'll introduce a larger assortment of next-gen hybrids, also mainly in the third quarter, including the Misfit Vapor, which received incredible attention at CES.

Our goal for 2017 is to leverage the momentum we're building in wearables, our brand platform, improve technology and distribution to gain roughly 3 points of share of the overall connected wrist device market. We expect the first quarter will be the most challenging from a sequential sales trend perspective for a few reasons.

We're operating with roughly 40 fewer stores than a year ago, and we also expect to sell less through off-price channels given our relatively clean inventory position. We're also anniversarying last year's first quarter when channel sell-in significantly exceeded sell-through given the downturn we saw in traditional watch demand a year ago.

Coming out of the first quarter, our goal is to drive sequentially improving top line growth throughout the year as we introduce more wearables into the market. Now, to gross margin. We're planning the year with a lower overall gross margin.

We expect retail traffic trends to persist, and that we'll still need to rely on promotions especially in our outlets to drive conversion. As we said earlier, we are investing roughly 10 points of connected margins to generate the volumes that we can use to drive better costing through our supply chain over time.

And given prevailing exchange rates, currency will be a further drag on gross margin. Partially offsetting those, we expect to drive benefits from our New World Fossil initiative.

The net headwind should gradually build throughout the year and likely spike in the third quarter when the year-over-year change in connected mix will likely be the greatest. Excluding our restructuring charges, we expect to operate with a lower annual expense rate and lower expenses throughout the year.

The areas of our business model we've been developing for the future, including our wearables team and our omnichannel platform, are now largely in place.

We expect our advertising investments to be relatively similar to 2016 levels overall, though more heavily weighted to the third quarter of this year, to support our large rollout of next-gen wearables. Our New World Fossil initiative along with store closures will drive the year-over-year reduction in operating expenses.

Based on our current estimates, excluding restructuring activities, we expect our earnings to sequentially improve as we progress throughout the year. As we move into the third quarter, gross margin pressure should likely be the strongest given the greatest year-over-year change in connected mix relative to 2016.

The shifting of greater advertising investments in the third quarter will likely dampen the earnings benefit of our anticipated wearables growth. So we'd expect that expense timing to turn in the fourth quarter when we expect to generate the substantial majority of this year's earnings.

For the full year, we expect to record restructuring charges of about $75 million or $1.01 per share, primarily related to adjustments we've made to our organizational structure and store closures. In the first quarter, we expect restructuring charges of $30 million or $0.41 per share.

While our bank facility extends until May 2018, our goal is to replace it this year. Given the overall environment in retail, we do expect that this will result in higher interest expense for the year, which we estimate will negatively impact the annual EPS comparison by roughly $0.28 per share, mostly after the first quarter.

Given our current earnings expectation, this year's restructuring charges and certain changes in tax accounting rules, we expect to recognize a relatively small income tax benefit in 2017.

Despite this year's anticipated first quarter loss, we still expect to record a modest income tax expense in the first quarter related mainly to changes in tax accounting rules and mix in jurisdictional earnings. We expect the tax provision should then turn in subsequent quarters.

Therefore, for the full year, on a GAAP basis, we expect sales in the range between a 6.5% decline and flat. Both of these rates include roughly 150 basis point negative impact from the closure of our retail stores. That store closure headwind should gradually increase throughout the year as we execute more store closures.

At the upper end, our guidance assumes annual traditional watch sales trend deteriorate slightly compared to our overall 2016 annual trend; and at the lower end, we assume further step-down in those trends. The lower end of our estimate also assumes we do not fully execute our wearables rollout.

For the full year, we expect GAAP operating margin in the range between zero and 1.5%; and we expect GAAP EPS in the range of between a loss of $0.50 and income of $0.20. We expect GAAP first quarter sales to decline in the range between 13% and 9.5%, which reflects the headwinds I described earlier.

We expect GAAP first quarter operating margin in the range between negative 8% and negative 6%; and GAAP EPS loss in the range of between $1.06 and $0.92. Now, let me talk about our adjusted guidance, and you'll find a description and quantification of all these items in today's earnings release.

If we were to eliminate the effects of non-operating currency gains and losses in both 2016 and 2017, eliminate the currency headwind between 2016 and 2017 on operations, restructuring charges for both periods, higher interest expenses anticipated in 2017, net of related taxes, our adjusted guidance would be as follows.

For the full year, constant currency sales would be in the range between a 4.5% decrease and a 2% increase. These data also include the roughly 150 basis point store closure headwind, and the range contemplates the same execution in sales risk as in our GAAP guidance.

Full year adjusted operating margin would be in the range of between 3.5% and 5%, with our investment in our lower connected margins this year offsetting the improvements from New World Fossil. Full year adjusted EPS would be in the range between $1 and $1.70.

If we were to similarly adjust our 2016 results and eliminate last year's real estate gains, net of related taxes, we estimate our 2016 adjusted EPS would have been $1.80. For the first quarter, constant currency sales would decline in the range between $11.5 and 8%, including a roughly 130 basis point headwind due to store closures.

Adjusted operating margin would be in the range between a negative 2% and zero; and adjusted EPS would be between a negative $0.25 and a negative $0.10. Adjusting 2016's first quarter to be on a comparable basis, that adjusted EPS would be $0.11. The year-over-year change results primarily from the change in sales from 2016 to 2017.

Finally, we're planning the year assuming we invest approximately $70 million in CapEx. And with that, we'll open up the call to your questions. Please limit yourself to one single-part question, so that we can give everyone a chance to ask a question.

And if you have further questions, please re-queue and we'll get to as many questions as time permits..

Operator

Our first question is from Oliver Chen of Cowen & Company. Your line is open..

Oliver Chen - Cowen & Co. LLC

Hi. Thank you. Kosta, regarding the discussion around price points, can you just help us understand which part of the portfolio are you calibrating and what was the logic as you balance the market share opportunity.

And I'm also concerned about inventory management, just because you have been engaged in the test, read and react strategy for many years and you're entering a new era where different products you launch on a different schedule with the pace of innovation and what's happening in wearables.

So I'm a little bit concerned about your ability to manage in terms of the product release schedule and making sure you have the right product at the right place at the right time, and have the markdown cadence and a brand that works your way.

And just as a follow-up, Dennis, what about the cash flow for next year? Should we be worried about deteriorating cash flow trends in terms of how we model the business? Thank you..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

Thanks, Oliver. So, first of all, on the price of wearables. As we mentioned, most of what we saw last year was display watches. Obviously, average unit retail is much higher. What we learned is, first of all, Kors by far exceeded expectations at full-price.

We weren't even testing prices on Kors, because we were chasing inventory and are still chasing inventory to a certain extent right now. So complete blowout at that price and what we perceived is a huge amount of demand out there, very significant for overall smartwatches, as well as hybrids.

So what we're doing basically is, we're going into this and we have line of sight; and when quantities go up, our costs go down. So we also did a lot of testing on Fossil. And Fossil, one thing I would say is that if you look at the average retail of Kors of $250, the smartwatch was $350, so $100 more.

And in the FOSSIL brand, it was almost double the average unit retail price. So we tested different price points and we found significant demand at certain prices that we feel like long-term will be able to drive significant sales.

We also are planning on being very aggressive at the marketplace and putting very sharp prices on hybrids to get the quantities we need to drive the cost savings. So we also obviously want to get this on a lot of wrists, and we want to go word of mouth, go viral.

We're also putting all of our marketing and advertising resources for the entire year on telling the story as big as we can. We want to have a big bang to create as much excitement as we possibly can. On the inventory side, interesting enough, if you look at – we did, as we said, $170 million.

That was basically on 100 SKUs, an average of $70 million in sales per SKU. That's by far the highest we've ever had on anything. As we talk about with New World Fossil, a big part of the initiative is reduce our SKU count. We're using wearables as a catalyst to enable us to do just that.

So we're going to have fewer SKUs at higher average retail doing significant amounts of more volume. It actually is going to make our model more predictable.

And then, we also have built into our model, as new generations roll in and the old generations roll off, we have a huge amount of demand in our outlet channel and our liquidation channel for this product as well. So our business has always been around read and react, and that's important when you're testing new, smaller trends.

And we'll still continue to do that in our fashion traditional business, but we have the opportunity I think, especially that we get more history as the time goes on, we'll be able to predict pretty well what the potential size of this is. And that's why we're going to be using price as a lever to make sure we get the quantities..

Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc.

And I'll just add, now that we understand sweet spot price points that drive real volume, we then translate that onto the supply side of our business. So we've got technology costs in components and manufacturing that were negotiated and really reflect the low volume we had prior to Q4 last year. We've also completed an extensive benchmarking study.

So we understand where those costs will go as we get scale and are able to drive to increasing levels of automation with all our major component suppliers, and just also just generate the benefits of scale. So we hit those sweet spot price points, drive volume.

We're now going and working with all of our suppliers across on the technology side of our business, deeply engage with them to figure out exactly how those pricing and cost contracts will work and how costs will flow. That will come significantly down as we flow volume in the next 12 months to 24 months..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

An, Oliver, you asked about cash flows. Here's how we're thinking about our liquidity and cash flow. I'll start with where we ended 2016. We've got roughly $300 million of cash, mostly international, $640 million of debt. With our 3.25 EBITDA covenant, we have roughly $300 million of available debt capacity.

Now, if we think about our operations against that covenant, the upper end of our range, our operations should be fairly similar to 2016. The significant changes that are driving EPS down are interests which are not a part of that covenant, and restructuring where we do have an add-back to our covenant.

Currencies, which we gave you in the release, which that headwind is about $30 million, that would affect that calculation. So if you look at that impact through the filter of our EBITDA covenant, it suggests roughly about a $100 million change based on those assumptions on debt capacity. Now, look at cash flow.

In 2016, we generated $210 million of operating cash flow. Again, the talk of our guidance assumes roughly neutral adjusted operating results. Our table in the release should help illustrate that. So in 2016, though taxes will be favorable, we talked about that just a moment ago, the currencies and restructurings will be headwinds. Think about interest.

And we do anticipate being able to manage with tighter inventories, largely driven by running with fewer SKUs. So all-in, we could see some compression of operating cash flow, but still nicely positive. We're expecting CapEx around $70 million. So all-in, still driving overall positive cash flow for the year.

So, again, that's probably mostly likely overseas. So what that profile might look like a year from now based on these assumptions would be growth in overseas cash, likely similar debt levels and some compression of debt capacity, but still significant capacity and liquidity..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Omar Saad of Evercore ISI. Your line is open..

Omar Saad - Evercore ISI

Hi, thanks. I wanted to dig into some of the helpful information you've given on wearables, primarily this kind of idea that there's a new customer coming in, a younger, more female, who hasn't worn watches in the past.

Maybe help us understand in addition to that, dive in there, but also the traditional fashion watch customer, are they converting over to the more wearable products? And then, also help us understand what's going to be new – to the extent you can, what's going to be new in the wearables offering for the fall that you keep talking about? Thanks..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. So basically, from our perspective, it's two businesses colliding. So you take the traditional watch business, our intent is to disrupt that business with technology, put connectivity across the board.

And one of the advantages we're going to have this year is that the hybrid watches are going to get slimmer, we're going to have more brands and we're going to have really sharp price points. So we think it's an opportunity for us to gain share in the traditional watch business. It also will bring a younger customer in there.

It is innovation in watches, which is always what drives the watch business. So we think that by accelerating that as much as possible that we're going to be able to change the direction of the traditional watch business. We also are going to be – with the wearables business, we're selling new channels there too. So these two markets colliding.

You're seeing that traditional technology companies are selling smartwatches to department stores and jewelry stores, and we're selling to the CE channel.

We are actually, with our larger addressable market and the benefit of fashion and our distribution and then all our other competitive advantages, we think we're in a really good position to continue to gain share in that business as it continues to grow..

Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. A couple of other points on product. I think it's fair to say that we're going to have a step-function improvement in product through innovation and the pipeline we've been developing over the last year plus.

Kosta mentioned smaller and thinner watches, which is a much better fit for our female core customer, which is generally over 70% of our traditional watch sales, and also more Asia Pacific friendly sizes.

With smartwatches, in particular, so display smartwatches, not only thinner and sleeker, but we've invested in a beautiful custom display that's a full-round, high-resolution, bright screen with thin bezel that you saw first at CES in Misfit Vapor; and that's going to go through the majority of our smartwatch line this year.

We also have some other features like rotating crown. And then, you probably have seen some of the press around Android Wear 2.0, which we think is a massive upgrade for our customers, particularly those that are on iPhones..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

So we're going to be injecting technology into the traditional watch business and injecting fashion into the wearables business. And we're perceiving very significant demand. There's huge consumer interest. All of our stores, partners, our licensed partners, et cetera, everyone is fully on board.

And as we've been saying for some time is the number one trend right now in fashion is technology, and we're going to bring it to market..

Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc.

I'd add one other point on Misfit Vapor, which we announced at CES, really represents a sport line for us as well. So we're going to have a fashion line, which is focused on the right functionality for the customer that wants a thinner profile watch. We're going to also have a module now and a product line that's focused on sport.

So we'll start with Misfit Vapor, and then we'll add other brands. And we believe that the sport use cases, which are a significant part of the overall wearables business today, is something we're going to be able to tap into as well..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Ed Yruma of KeyBanc Capital Markets. Your line is open..

Edward J. Yruma - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc./Pacific Crest Securities

Hi. Thanks very much for taking my questions. I guess, first, you indicated that there was still some inventory imbalance that you're unable to fulfill kind of the sales trend on the screen watches.

Could you talk about when you're anticipating that to normalize? I guess, second, the 10 points of margin compression for wearables for 2017, is that you investing in price, functionality, I guess how do we think about how that investment takes place? And then, I guess finally, I think you indicated that Kors was largely flattish given the wearables strength.

Is it your anticipation that Kors turns positive in 2017? Thank you..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

Well, first of all, on the supply, when we first started shipping the new generation smartwatches, the third quarter last year, we started seeing strong sell-through. So at that point, we started forecasting larger numbers for this year. So we do have increasing flow for the first quarter.

And then, we saw another step-up in sell-through in the fourth quarter, especially in December. So we placed orders for that. So those will be coming in second and third quarter. Our new generation smartwatches are landing in third quarter. And as Greg mentioned, they're just beautiful watches, beautiful screens, much improved, slimmer.

We're expecting even stronger sell-throughs on there. So clearly we see, especially with Kors the demand and the sell-throughs we got on Access, there's a positive story here and we're moving as fast as we can to fulfill it..

Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. So I think we're on good shape in terms of inventory management. There were styles in our launches this last fall in Q4 that were 2.5x to 3x what our initial forecasts were. So you can't help but be in a situation of chasing demand, which is a good problem, but you have a lag to deal with.

This year, we've got a year of experience in managing that and I think we'll be in pretty good shape. On the pricing strategy side, we gave a little bit of color on that in our response to Oliver.

But what's really happening here is that our pricing and our margin strategy on wearables is this convergence of a few data points that tell us that we are on the cusp of a high-volume profitable wearables business, but we need to act quickly to get the volume and take advantage of it.

We mentioned the sweet spot pricing, so we did testing particularly with Fossil around what is the sweet spot price that drives massive volume. We found we're still going to tinker with price and figure out how to evolve that strategy. But we think we found a sweet spot.

And now, as we're turning to the supply side of the business, now that we know where, how much volume we can generate through demand, our work has now gone to what is the level of volume that we need to get to, to drive substantial reductions in cost, what I'd call minimum efficient scale.

And we've developed that point of view in both the hybrid category and in smartwatches, and our job now is to go get it. So we're going to invest in price to go get volume and then leverage that volume to work with our supply partners on the technology side of our business to get to economies of scale and costing quickly..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Erinn Murphy of Piper Jaffray. Your line is open..

Erinn E. Murphy - Piper Jaffray & Co.

Great. Thanks. Good afternoon. A couple from me. I guess, first, just going back to the fourth quarter watch stabilization that you called out. Can you just speak to what you saw as the quarter progressed from a sell-through perspective of traditional watches? I know wearables made up, I think you said, 11%.

And then secondly, could you just, I'm sorry, walk through the disconnect of Q1 sales run rate versus where you ended Q4? Are you making an assumption that Michael Kors rolls over in Q1. I know you said store closures are about 130 basis points impact to the top line, but there's a pretty broad range in there? So just trying to understand that.

And then, finally, on the stores that you're closing, I think you said 40 was the number for the full year that you just closed. What are the characteristics of those stores that you're closing, what regions are they in, are they four-wall negative? Just anything to help us understand how we should be modeling that from an EBIT perspective? Thanks..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

On traditional watches in the fourth quarter, the traditional watches continue to be soft. But what we said earlier, on the brands that have wearables, so mostly Fossil and Kors, we were able to offset most of the decline with wearable sales. So that's where we are on that..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. On the first quarter, there's really three things that I'd ask you to focus on. The first is the store closures. That's obviously creating a headwind in the top line. The second is that, just given where our inventory position is, we were down now 13%. A year ago, our inventories were up 5% coming out of the fourth quarter a year ago.

So we're expecting that in this first quarter sales we will have less off-price sales because of these much stronger and cleaner inventory position. And then, the third issue is remember last year in the first quarter.

So we actually delivered our sales in the first quarter, but that's a quarter in which we saw a fairly significant and worldwide downturn in traditional watches. So we think that what we effectively did there was build channel inventories through the first quarter.

We're now up against that fairly relatively strong sell-in, perhaps versus what the sell-throughs would've suggested. So we're up against that. In terms of store closures, we'll be continuing to close stores throughout the year. We'll probably close a similar number in 2017 to what we did in 2016. But the profile is there – they cut across all regions.

The biggest is in the Americas, but there also all concepts are affected effectively, we were targeting those stores that are underperforming in terms of their financial metrics and/or those stores that are no longer of strategic value to us..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Simeon Siegel of Nomura/Instinet. Your line is open..

Simeon A. Siegel - Nomura/Instinet

Great. Thanks. Good afternoon. Dennis, just to follow-up on the store closures, how large would you like your ultimate store fleet to be.

And I guess how much of low-teens margin opportunity is driven by these closures?.

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. We've been on this journey for the last several years, where brick-and-mortar stores are becoming less important to the model. We've been investing in omnichannel, which is driving significant growth. We expect that to continue. So we're taking a fairly large number of stores out of the system this year and last year.

And then, we'll kind of wait and see. I mean, some stores we won't close, perhaps some stores we'll just let run through expiration and not renew those. But we certainly see stores will remain an important part of our business model, but just that's shifting as the consumer shopping pattern is shifting.

In terms of just the impact to the long-term operating model, and if I look at the key drivers that I called out, growth, New World Fossil, connected margins, the stores are stores that are dragging down current earnings.

But if I prioritize those, I would say the impact on earnings would be the least impact – stores would be the least impactful on those earnings..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

If you look at our stores over the last couple of years, we've changed them quite a lot. The entire visual merchandise in the store is different. It's much more experiential. And I would encourage you to see our store on Fifth Avenue. It was remodeled last year (01:00:28).

And what we're doing in there now is a lot of embossing on leather goods, engraving on watches. A lot of our sales in the stores are now actually done over the Internet. So if a customer comes in, we work with them over an iPad and they convert on our website.

We also have on our website all of that embossing, engraving and also the ability to build your own watch the way you want. So it's changed quite a lot, and we're interested in how the stores evolved and how it dovetails into our marketing, social media, CRM program.

So as we close some of these stores, we're using some tools to try to identify those customers and communicate and engage with them in different ways. We're also interested in going forward to how, maybe, we have a smaller store.

That's totally more customization and more experiential and really maybe drives people to our website and just communicates the brand and where we're going..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Anna Andreeva of Oppenheimer. Your line is open..

Anna Andreeva - Oppenheimer & Co., Inc.

Great. Thanks so much. Good afternoon, guys. I guess two questions for us, to Dennis. I think you mentioned you guys already realized 40% of that $200 million of SG&A rationalization. I guess what drove that reduction and what kind of SG&A dollar decline should we expect for 1Q and for the full year? And then, secondly, to Kosta.

As you think about your wholesale exposure, any opportunity to exit any of the department store doors out there? And just any view on brand composition in the portfolio? Do you guys see any benefit to maybe downsizing, given likely some cannibalization across the brands? Thanks..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah. So I'll start with what we've been working through New World Fossil now for roughly six months, and a lot of the activities that we've already essentially executed on will flow through the P&L in 2017. We did have an action in the company that affected the global organization. That reduced our overall head count.

Those are tough decisions, but the right thing to do for the long-term. So that will benefit the P&L throughout the year. We've closed some stores. We've also gotten some quick wins through contract negotiations, better leveraging our volumes, reducing indirect spending.

So the way we're viewing that is that, that accumulates to approaching 40% of that overall $200 million goal, which as the P&L rolls through 2017 we should see those benefits rolling through. And that's fundamentally going to offset the investment that we're making in connected margins.

So, again, if you step back and you look at our adjusted guidance, the implication is that our normalized operations are roughly flat, which is us investing in those margins and using New World Fossil benefits that we've been able to execute that would hit 2017 to offset those..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

On the stores side, over the last several years we have actually closed a number of smaller stores, whether they're small department stores or smaller specialty stores. Some of those stores have self-elected to close and, et cetera. But generally the impact of that was negligible on us because those stores were not very productive.

And typically, if you move the inventory to a larger door, you get better sales anyway. So we don't see that. Some of that will be ongoing. It's not an impact. We are, as we mentioned, adding a lot of additional distribution for especially wearables. So CE channel, CE websites globally. So I think that's going to penetrate even more this year.

So we're very interested to see how that plays out. And on the brand side, I would say especially now with our new capabilities of technology, I think we've put ourselves in a position where we'll be adding additional brands over the next couple of years. We're being very aggressive in the marketplace with our brands.

We're pushing wearables as a differentiator as fast as we possibly can. We think we're going to gain share, and it gives additional space. So we think we're in position to add additional brands to take a larger share of the watch business and the wearables business..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Scott Krasik of Buckingham Research. Your line is open..

Scott D. Krasik - The Buckingham Research Group, Inc.

Hi. Thanks very much. So just wanted to be clear on how you're looking at the guidance, Dennis. If we take out for the interest expense and the FX, it seems like your adjusted guidance is $0.51 to $1.21.

Is that right and is that what we should be using for 2017? And then, secondly, I'm just wondering if you expect a much larger percentage of your revenues than normal to come in fourth quarter as well.

And early discussions with your retailers, how are they planning to invest in the wearables category? I know some of them did it in a pretty big way in holiday 2016? Thanks..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

I didn't quite follow your math on the front end.

I think the best way to understand how we're thinking about the adjusted guidance is to just refer to the chart that we have in the press release that eliminates the impact of restructuring from both periods, eliminates the incremental interest expense – not total interest, but incremental interest expense that we expect were going to occur, last year's gains, and then the impact of currency so that you get both years on a relatively like-for-like basis.

In terms of the sales trends, and we said this on the prepared remarks, we should see an increasing sales trend rate over as we move through the quarters. Obviously, the first quarter is going to be tough for some of the reasons we talked about, but largely it's going to be driven by bringing more and more wearables onto the platform.

The majority of our wearables rollout this year will be second half. So you're going to see some more of the weighting in the back half of the year, but we think wearables can be the offset. And I would just, again, remind everybody that sequencing is important here. So you've got headwinds, you've got tailwinds.

We certainly believe that connected can be the tailwind to ultimately offset those headwinds. Predicting them exactly when they're going to happen is always a challenge that we face still operating in a business with limited visibility..

Scott D. Krasik - The Buckingham Research Group, Inc.

And just to clarify, because it's hard for investors to exclude higher interest expense if that's going to continue and then also currency.

So just the GAAP EPS plus the restructuring charges sound to me like $0.51 to $1.21?.

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

I'm not doing your math here. So maybe we can talk offline, but I don't know if your math is right. I can tell you the way we're thinking about it. It's not to imply that that's the right number. It's really to help one compare year-over-year. That's what we're trying to accomplish with that..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Ike Boruchow of Wells Fargo. Your line is open..

Ike Boruchow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Hey, everyone. Thanks for taking my question. Just really simply, just can you tell us maybe the high-end or the low-end of the guide, Dennis? What's included in your guidance in regards to wearable revenue and wearable EBIT? I'm not sure, are you planning to make money on the wearable business this year.

And if the answer is no, is there like a certain revenue point where you need to start to scale that business?.

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

Yeah, we didn't – but we didn't specifically quantify that, but we are expecting given that we're investing in the margins this year to drive significant improvement and acceleration of the business. And we told you that our goal was to get perhaps another 3 points of share of the overall connected wrist device market.

We did handicap that in the range, so that the lower end of the range assumes that we don't fully execute on the plan. There's a lot of moving parts and we're flying 1,000 miles an hour here. And we didn't comment yet on whether the full connected business is profitable..

Ike Boruchow - Wells Fargo Securities LLC

Okay. But....

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Betty Chen of Mizuho Securities. Your line is open..

Betty Chen - Mizuho Securities USA, Inc.

Thank you. Thanks for taking our question. I guess kind of following on what Ike was saying. It sounds like the team has done some comprehensive analysis already of sort of the balance between volume and costing.

I guess, where do we need to be for that costing to come down so that the margins will retrace the 10 points being invested this year? Is it roughly a double of what we saw in 2016 or something higher than that? Any sort of help around that would be really helpful? And then, the other is, just want to understand the idea around the New World Fossil.

Dennis, you're saying that you've already achieved 40% of that $200 million in EBIT in operating profit improvement, and that's already embedded into the 2017 guide, or is that something that's going to be recognized in 2018? I just want to make sure we understood that. Thanks..

Gregory A. McKelvey - Fossil Group, Inc.

First part of that question around volume. I'd point to a couple of things. On the supply side of the business, part of the answer is just volume-based pricing and getting our volume reflected in our contract with our supply base.

But more than half of the opportunity is actually getting to volume that allows us to get our supply base to deliver dedicated manufacturing lines with a high degree of automation, because several of the components are specific to smartwatches and hybrid smartwatches and sometimes even unique to just us. So we've got to get to that volume.

What I'd say is our goal is to get to aggregate the amount of volume that would meet our, what I'd call, our minimum efficient scale by the end of the year or early next year. And then, the next question is how do the economics and costs flow. But this is not a multi-year thing.

This is aggregate the volume now, work with our suppliers to make it a win-win cost model, or find different suppliers, right? And that's a lot of work to get there, but I'm spending nearly 100% of my time making that happen..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

And with respect to the New World Fossil, so what we're trying to communicate is that through the actions we've already taken, the contract renegotiations that we've had, facilities that we may have closed, the better pricing that we're getting because we're doing a better job consolidating our volumes, all of that effort should roll – and the stores that we've also closed – all of that effort should roll throughout – into the benefit of 2017 P&L based on the work that we've already done.

And that's roughly 40% of our overall goal..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is from Dana Telsey of Telsey Advisory Group. Your line is open..

Dana Lauren Telsey - Telsey Advisory Group LLC

Good afternoon, everyone. As you think about the wholesale business and whether its department stores, whether it's selling to the off-price channel, what's happening on the order patterns, what's happening on the promotions and the margins and what you're seeing in that channel.

And what percentage of the business do you expect that channel to account for going forward? Thank you..

Kosta N. Kartsotis - Fossil Group, Inc.

Well, I think the one thing we're seeing that wholesale is that we have some very desirable product selling pretty quickly. It's bringing a new customer, average unit retail is higher. So I think we're in good shape in terms of that.

As we mentioned, we're going to have – because our inventories are leaner and we expect them to be on an ongoing basis leaner – that we would have a less off-price sales, and over time I think we can get our margins up for that..

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I'd like to turn the call back to Mr. Secor for any closing remarks..

Dennis R. Secor - Fossil Group, Inc.

So thank you all for joining us today, and we look forward to speaking to you again on our next call which should be In May. Thank you very much..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for your participation in today's conference. This concludes the program. You may now disconnect. Everyone, have a great day..

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