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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2022 - Q3
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Operator

Good afternoon, everyone, and welcome to the eHealth, Inc. conference call to discuss the company's Third Quarter 2022 Financial Results. At this time, all participants have been placed in listen mode. The floor will be open to your questions following the presentation.

It is my pleasure to turn the floor over to Eli Newbrun-Mintz, Senior Investor Relations Manager. Please go ahead..

Eli Newbrun-Mintz Senior Investor Relations Manager

Good afternoon. And thank you all for joining eHealth, Inc's third quarter 2022 financial results. Joining me today are Fran Soistman, Chief Executive Officer and Christine Janofsky, Chief Financial Officer. After managements prepared remarks, we will open the line for questions.

As a reminder, today's conference call is being recorded and webcast from the Investor Relations section of our website. A replay of the call will be available on our website following the call.

We will be making forward-looking statements on this call that includes statements regarding future events, beliefs, and expectations, including statements relating to our expectations regarding the Medicare market and individual and family plan market, including current market and enrollment trends, consumer demand, our competitive advantage and market opportunities, our investments in enrollment quality initiatives, our omnichannel capabilities and call center operations and expected impact of these investments on customer conversion, customer retention and other quality metrics, our expectations regarding our marketing and member acquisition strategies and sales channels, our expectations regarding our business strategy, operating plan and financial performance, including the profitability of our business, cost savings, cash flows, conversion rates, customer retention, lifetime values, acquisition costs, member estimates and fixed and operating expenses and our full year 2022 financial guidance.

Forward-looking statements on this call represent eHealth's views as of today. You should not rely on these statements as representing our views in the future. We undertake no obligation or duty to update information contained in these forward-looking statements, whether as a result of new information, future events or otherwise.

Forward-looking statements are subject to risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially from those projected in our forward-looking statements.

We describe these and other risks and uncertainties in our earnings release, Annual Report on Form 10-K and Quarterly Reports on Form 10-Q filed with the SEC, which you may access through the SEC website or from the Investor Relations section of our website. We will also be presenting certain non-GAAP financial measures on this call.

For a reconciliation of each non-GAAP financial measure to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure, please refer to the information included in our press release and in our SEC filings, which you may access from the Investor Relations section of our website. I will now turn the call over to Fran Soistman..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Eli. Good afternoon, and thank you to everyone joining us for our third quarter '22 earnings call. Today, I will review our third quarter results and provide an update on our execution, as we prepare for the important enrollment season, which started on October 15 in the Medicare market and November 1 in the individual and family plan market.

I began my tenure at eHealth just about one year ago this month. Since then, we've assembled a new leadership team and developed a comprehensive long-range strategic plan for returning the company to sustainable profitable growth, while delivering a differentiated value proposition to carrier partners and customers.

Significant operational changes were implemented across all critical areas of the organization this year as we started to execute against the plan with additional initiatives roadmap for 2023 and beyond.

Our initial achievements will be tested and leveraged for success during this important time when millions of customers shop for individual and Medicare plans.

During this enrollment period, our company will assist tens of thousands of Americans to shop and enroll in plans that represent an optimal match for their personal preferences, health needs, and budgets.

Our sales agents and product teams have performed the critical work of assisting customers and navigating a complex landscape of health plan options, guiding beneficiaries through planned features and key selection criteria, as well as providing the enrollment method that are most convenient for the beneficiary or their caregivers.

This important service provided in a multi-carrier choice environment that meets beneficiaries when, where, and how they want to be served.

We give consumers the ability to shop and enroll through a host of different methods, including telephonically, online using their personal computers, laptops, tablets or mobile devices through live chat, or fully unassisted using our digital tools.

Our omnichannel shop, educate, buy, and enroll capabilities are also critically important for our carrier partners who depend on health insurance advisers like eHealth to generate quality enrollments at scale. eHealth, in particular, provides carriers with access to beneficiaries to value comparison shopping and more technologically savvy.

We continue to place the utmost emphasis on our relationships with carrier partners as we work together to provide customers with exceptional and memorable experiences with the intention of establishing lifelong relationships.

eHealth's relationships with our carrier partners have been strengthened throughout the last year and I believe our partnerships have never been healthier.

During the quarter, eHealth continued to execute against the six-point operating plan that we've outlined on our prior earnings calls and which can be found on slide 11 of our earnings presentation.

Improving our cost structure is an important element of the plan and we are now on track to deliver more than $90 million in year-over-year cost savings in 2022. These savings are coming from -- variable cost reductions with the largest impact expected in Q4 and as well as rationalizing our fixed cost base.

In addition to improving our profitability and cash flow profile this year, the cost reduction program underway will also allow us to enter 2023 on a much stronger foundation. As you recall, the cost transformation execution began in April.

The full annualized impact will be realized in 2023, supplemented by additional cost eliminations and reductions that we expect to execute on in the early part of the new year. While enhancing cash flow and profitability is an important part of the operating plan, our transformation is clearly not limited to cost eliminations and cost reductions.

In the past year, we have made significant changes to our leadership team, most recently announcing the appointment of our new Chief Marketing Officer, Michelle Barbeau; and our Chief People Officer, Jana Brown. Internally, we promoted Bill Billings to Senior Vice President of Engineering and Information Security.

The entire leadership team is aligned around our operating plan and broader strategic goals and is fully dedicated to the success of this company and our mission of connecting customers with quality, affordable health insurance coverage.

The work on reconstituting the leadership team is near completion and I believe we are assembling a truly special group of executives that have experience, passion and determination to lead eHealth towards our important mission of helping Americans find affordable health insurance coverage while exceeding our Board and shareholders' expectations.

Last month, eHealth's leadership team signed a pledge, outlining our commitment to Medicare beneficiaries and caregivers and the experience they can expect when they work with eHealth.

It is comprised of six statements covering everything from our offering of a wide range of high-quality plans to making customer satisfaction the top criteria behind our planned recommendations to providing expert guidance in a friendly, easy-to-use shopping and enrollment process, as well as always acting with the highest degree of ethics and integrity.

As we get another example of the new eHealth, an organization that strives to provide customers with exceptional and memorable experiences as they shop for health insurance plans. The pledge was shared with our carrier partners, CMS and is proudly displayed on all of our websites.

Operationally, one of the most important third quarter achievement has been a year-over-year increase in conversion rate from Medicare sales and enrollment calls.

This is a critical metric that determine the effectiveness of our Medicare telesales organization and impacts not only the enrollment volumes, but also the per enrollment acquisition cost, one of the key drivers of member profitability.

This year-over-year step-up in conversion rates have continued through the first weeks of the AEP, where improvements to conversion are even more consequential given significantly larger number of incoming calls compared to the rest of the year.

We are seeing this year-over-year productivity improvement for our tenured agent as well as the agents newly hired for this AEP.

As a reminder, the introduction of our enrollment quality initiatives about a year ago, which included call verifications, resulted in a significant reduction of our telephonic conversion rates and impacted our financial performance.

While over the past 12 months, we have had to sacrifice enrollment volume as a result of these quality initiatives, it was the right decision. It allowed us to achieve significantly better CTM scores and improved our standing with major carriers, some of which now refers to eHealth as the gold standard in enrollment quality.

We are excited to see a year-over-year increase in conversions in Q3 that was accomplished while maintaining enhanced enrollment quality standards.

Q3 revenue of $53.4 million decreased 16% year-over-year, reflecting a 37% reduction in Medicare variable acquisition costs compared to last year, which contributed to reduced lead volume, partially offset by enhanced marketing effectiveness and improved conversion rates.

Adjusted EBITDA loss was $33.1 million compared to a loss of $55.2 million in Q3 of 2021. Both revenue and adjusted EBITDA were in line with our internal plan.

Third quarter marketing and agent cost per acquired Medicare member improved year-over-year, and we expect this trend to continue and be even more pronounced in the AEP, driving meaningful expansion in LTV to CAC spread.

Based on Q3 results and initial AEP observations, we are reaffirming the full year 2022 guidance ranges we provided on last quarter's call. In preparation for the AEP, we made changes to sales and marketing strategies and implemented new processing, based on learnings from prior enrollment periods.

At top of the funnel, we focused our marketing budgets on channel and customer segments that drive higher ROI enrollments and a specific days and times associated with stronger consumer response based on our data analytics.

We are prepared to be opportunistic with portions of our budget that can be shifted on shorter notice, leading into the top-performing initiatives and campaigns as we progress through the AEP.

As I shared with you on the last call, we did pull back from some of our historic channels, including DIRECTV and some of the lead aggregator partners, as we reevaluate our programs in these areas for 2023.

In recognition of the dynamic nature of our end markets, we planned to test new channels with a small percentage of marketing budget allocated to test every quarter.

One of the channels we are starting to lead into this year is our dedicated carrier arrangements to drive volume to our enrollment platform without the associated marketing spend, allowing us to preserve valuable member acquisition budget. This is becoming an important supplement to our core lead generation strategy.

eHealth's omnichannel shopping and enrollment capabilities remain a key differentiator of our business model. We aim to provide a fluid, consistent experience as customers move across online and in-person interactions with our platform with an overarching goal to increase the total conversion rates from top of the funnel.

In the past quarters, we made a number of investments to further augment enrollment options available to eHealth customers.

The introduction of live agent chat and co-browsing has made it easier for beneficiaries to progress through the shopping and enrollment process in a way that fits their specific preferences, including the degree of agent assistance they want.

For example, beneficiaries can begin the enrollment process online, or the progresses they talk to their family and consider plan options and then call in for a co-browsing session with a licensed agent to answer any remaining questions they might have and to complete the enrollments.

Again, the key goal is to increase the overall demand conversion on all of our platforms, regardless of how the final submission is made. As a result, you might see a mix shift of new enrollments into the hybrid online assisted category.

Over the past year, we made significant enhancements to our call center operations, which are already driving a meaningful year-over-year increase in telephonic conversion rates.

This included reengineering of our agent hiring and training processes, increased agent specialization by region and plan type, expansion of dedicated carrier and partner arrangements and the introduction of the new agent facing technology tools.

The telesales model is composed predominantly of full-time, in-house agents that we plan to retain year round with the goal of increasing average agent tenure and creating attractive career path for our best-performing sales professionals.

Outside of the AEP, we expect the optimization post-utilization through sales of ancillary products and providing value-added services to our members and carrier partners. In summary, we took the following steps over the past year to prepare for this AEP.

We reduced our LTC channels compared to a year ago, while meaningfully improving agent productivity to reengineered agent recruiting and training processes.

We launched dedicated carrier and local market telesales, we made changes the marketing strategies focused on optimizing channel mix, increasing return on our acquisition costs and fostering customer loyalty. And we introduced new omnichannel pools, including co-browsing and agent chat to increase overall lead conversion rates on our platform.

These improvements to our omnichannel shopping enrollment engine and marketing strategies are having a positive impact on our performance in the first fleet of the AEP. Compared to last year, we entered the selling season with a stronger pipeline and preset appointments with Medicare beneficiaries, which represents high intent needs.

Our targeted demand generation campaign combined with stronger telephonic conversions are driving enrollments that are being made at significantly lower per member acquisition costs compared to the same time a year ago.

While we are still in the early stages of the AEP, we are pleased with our performance to-date and believe it's a reflection of significant operational improvements put in place over the past year. In the individual and family plan segment, we remain cautiously optimistic about the growing ICHRA opportunity.

ICHRA, which stands for Individual Coverage Health Reimbursement Arrangement, allows employers to fund IFT premiums for their workforce as an affordable alternative to small business coverage. The health insurance programs typically take time to gain awareness at scale and ICHRA will likely follow the same path.

We do believe though, that health insurance inflation continues to be a big driver of broader inflation in the country, ICHRA will be a benefactor as it provides employers with an opportunity to reduce their financial exposure and provides employees greater affordability of their health insurance [Technical Difficulty] In preparation for the fourth quarter open enrollment period, we have launched a number of new partnerships, including some of the leading benefit administrators in the ICHRA market.

Looking back at my first year at eHealth, I am satisfied with the progress we've made and believe this organization underwent a tremendous amount of positive change.

The improvements we have made to our sales and marketing organizations are already making a significant positive impact and are important step on our path towards sustainable profitable growth. eHealth has a broader sector performance as AEP will inform our operational decisions for 2023.

We will be finalizing next years plans shortly after the AEP conclusion and plan to provide 2023 guidance as part of our fourth quarter earnings release. We also plan to hold an Investor Day in early 2023, and we'll be sharing more details when we report Q4 earnings.

Above all, I would like to stress my conviction in eHealth's mission and the Medicare Advantage opportunity we are pursuing.

Medicare Advantage continues to be a large and growing market with favorable demographic trends and I believe eHealth provides unique value to beneficiaries by offering a broad selection plan nationwide, along with tools and advisory to short-term plans and the ability to enroll through a license -- online unassisted or anywhere in between.

With that, I will turn the call to our CFO, Christine Janofsky, for some additional color on our financials.

Christine?.

Christine Janofsky

Thank you, Fran and good afternoon, everyone. Our third quarter results reflect a reduction in member acquisition costs pursuant to our cost transformation plan combined with a significant improvement in Medicare agent productivity.

During the quarter, we generated similar Medicare enrollment volume compared to third quarter a year ago, while reducing variable acquisition spend in that segment by 37%. Third quarter Medicare revenue was $45.1 million, down 3% from Q3, 2021. Medicare commission revenue was $41.3 million, down 3% year-over-year.

During the quarter, we recognized $1.7 million of positive adjustments or tail revenue in our Medicare business, reflective of positive cash collection trends on some of our older member cohorts. Third quarter Medicare non-commission revenue of $3.8 million was flat year-over-year and is comprised predominantly of carrier advertising revenue.

Medicare segment loss was $23 million in the third quarter, compared to a loss of $52.9 million a year ago, reflecting the impact of our cost transformation program and increased conversion rates in our telesales organization. Medicare Advantage approved enrollment were approximately 37,800, a year-over-year increase of 3%.

Total Medicare enrollment, including Medicare Supplement and Medicare Part D approved members were approximately 44,900, or a 4% decline relative to Q3 of 2021.

The year-over-year decline in Med Sup and Part D enrollment are driven by secular shifts in consumer demand, favoring MA and MAPD product, as well as our more targeted deployment of marketing spend on MA leads.

We ended the third order with an estimated total Medicare Advantage paying membership of $582,000, which represents year-over-year growth of 4%. Total estimated Medicare membership was $905,000 or an increase of 3% compared to a year ago.

MA LTV for third quarter was $953, down 2% on a year-over-year basis, reflecting stable turn observations on our historic third quarter cohort and a product mix impact. The third quarter is typically characterized by seasonally elevated per member acquisition costs as we hire and train agents who are not yet fully productive during the quarter.

And also invest in early marketing campaigns in preparation for the AEP. At the same time, through our transformation program, the improvement to our sales and marketing operations resulted in a year-over-year decline of 35% in per member acquisition costs.

As we enter the AEP, we expect to see a meaningful drop in our acquisition cost per approved Medicare member and a favorable LTV to tax spread compared to Q3 of this year, as demand and conversion rates pick up.

Third quarter Medicare Advantage online unassisted submitted applications grew 18% on a year-over-year basis and partially assisted applications grew 39%, as we continue to invest in omnichannel tools on our platform.

Individual, Family and Small Business segment revenue was $8.2 million with segment profit of $2.7 million, compared to $17.5 million and $12.5 million respectively in Q3 2021.

The year-over-year decline in segment revenue and profitability is attributable mostly to lower tail revenue, in Q3 of this year, positive tail revenue in this segment was $1.8 million compared to $10 million in Q3 2021. We continue to observe favorable retention trends in our IFP business.

Lifetime value of our non-QHP product grew 20% year-over-year. LTVs for QHP plans were down 2% after growing in double-digits in 2021 and Q2 of this year. Total Q3 revenue was $53.4 million, a decline of 16% year-over-year. GAAP net loss for Q3 was $39.1 million, compared to a loss of $53 million in Q3 2021.

Adjusted EBITDA loss was $33.1 million compared to negative $55.2 million in Q3 of 2021. Moving now to our expenses. In the third quarter, total GAAP operating expense was $101.6 million, down 22% from $130 million in Q3 2021.

The decrease in total operating expense was driven by a decrease of 40% or $20 million in GAAP CC&E expense and a decrease of 29% and were $12.8 million in total GAAP marketing and advertising spend from Q3 of 2021. On the fixed cost side, GAAP tech and content spend declined 5% year-over-year, while G&A increased 4% compared to Q3 a year ago.

The year-over-year increase in GAAP G&A costs is primarily related to higher stock-based compensation expense. Last year, stock-based comp was positively impacted by a $4.1 million credit due to a reversal of a prior stock grant to our former CEO, who departed a year ago.

Third quarter operating costs also include a $3.7 million non-cash charge primarily related to the subleasing agreements we signed on our Santa Clara office leading to the recognition of a lease impairment.

The sublease of our Santa Clara property as part of the remote first strategy we announced earlier this year and is expected to have a positive impact on our fixed cost structure over time. For the full year, we are now targeting total cost savings in excess of $90 million relative to 2021.

These savings will be weighted towards variable spend as you saw in Q3 and will have the highest impact in terms of absolute dollar amount in the fourth quarter. We ended the quarter with approximately $165 million in cash, cash equivalents and marketable securities, and $66 million in debt.

Our balance sheet also reflects a commissions receivable balance of approximately $786 million that is comprised of $208 million that we expect to collect over the next 12 months, and $578 million in long-term commissions receivable. Operating cash flow for the second quarter was negative $29.6 million, compared to negative $71 million a year ago.

This represents a year-over-year improvement of more than $41 million. On a year-to-date basis, for the nine months ended September 30, 2022, net cash used in operating activities was $8.3 million, which compares to cash use of $60.3 million for the first nine months of 2021, or an improvement of $52 million.

These improvements in cash used represent the initial results of our cost transformation program and significant operational improvements, implemented over the past year, and we believe we can make further improvements in the coming quarters.

Trailing 12-month Medicare commission cash collections were $331.1 million, an increase of 1% compared to a year ago. Turning to our full year 2022 guidance, we are reaffirming the ranges we gave last quarter. I am encouraged by our execution in the first weeks of the AEP.

The progress we have made towards increasing the efficiency of our telesales and marketing organizations over the last year can be clearly seen in the initial enrollment metrics and is a positive sign for the trajectory of the business in both the near and longer term.

In summary, we are well positioned to execute against our 2022 plan, while continuing to drive towards the cost and operations related transformational commitments we have made to our investors. With that, I'll turn it back over to the operator to open up the line for questions..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question will come from Tobey Sommer of Truist Securities. Your line is open..

Tobey Sommer

Thank you. I was wondering if you could give us a perspective that you have both from your own business and appetite for marketing spend and sort of pricing out in the – as well as the market perspective. We've heard from some other players that everything seems to be a bit more rational with competition down somewhat – would love – ? Thank you..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi, Tobey. Nice to hear from you. Thanks for the question, of course. I would describe the environment as continue to be competitive. It's at least through the first three-plus weeks of the AEP. It's hard to predict what will happen in the remaining four and half weeks.

That said, I would say that looking at things from the eHealth perspective, the team has done a really good job in managing attack. And again, every day is a new adventure. But I attribute that to the good leadership that we brought on board here in managing our channels as effectively as possible. So rational is all relative. So let's start there.

And I think it all depends on how each marketing organization is performing relative to their, own goals and objectives. And if they're performing consistent with their goals and objectives, it probably does remain rational, if they're not they may do irrational things. So let's see how it all plays out through December 7th..

Tobey Sommer

Sure. So maybe to kind of dig into that from a pricing perspective, for out in the market for selling leads have those prices change? And I know that's not the preponderance of the business, nor the focal point of growth, but that our excellent plan [Technical Difficulty] and expectations were out in the market..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

You broke up at the end.

Can you say the last part of your question again, please?.

Tobey Sommer

Yeah. If we talk about pricing specifically, then it may distill and kind of get around that need for understanding any particular competitor's expectations in plans, and whether or not they're living up to them or not..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

It's -- let's just say this. We obviously keep a very close eye on what our competitors are doing, to the extent that we have that visibility. Our channels are a little different. We have a very robust online capability. Our competitors don't necessarily have that same capability.

So our online channel, we do more search engine optimization, searching and marketing. We do more of our paid search activity. So ours is a little different strategy on the direct mail, it's hard to really get visibility as to what they may be spending there, than what we're spending. But I would say that we're satisfied where we are to-date.

We're satisfied with what we're spending, relative to where we were this time last year. But again, it's a point in time. And so we can't -- we don't get to up, we don't get through down. We're just -- it's November 7th, and we got another 30 days less in the AEP. So could be a different answer tomorrow. So I think that's where we are today..

Tobey Sommer

Okay. You referenced scheduling an Investor Day in early 2023. Could you talk -- and you also have the cited the sort of harvestable receivables over the next 12 months or so, to speak to the cash flow position of the company as we get into next year. And I know AEP is a big variable in that equation.

So the extent to which you can comment on that would be helpful..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Sure. I'll let Christine talk a little bit more about the cash flow. I would say, at a very general level, we're pleased with where we are from a cash flow perspective.

From Investor Day, the goal there, of course, is really multi-dimensional and that we want to present this leadership team to our investors and to analysts, share much more about the longer range strategic objectives for the organization and provide more insight as to how we continue to see this business unfold and where we're going to take the company and it's a very different company today than it was a year ago, and that will continue to evolve between now and even the time when we schedule our Investor Day in late first quarter, early second quarter.

Cash flow, I'll ask Christine, if she wants to share a little bit more..

Christine Janofsky

Sure. Thank you, Fran, and nice to talk to you again Tobey. As we've talked about, certainly being cash flow positive is critical to this management team, and that's been one of our goals as we revised our operating plan for 2022 is to really reduce our cash burn.

And as part of our revised 2022 guidance that we talked about on the Q2 earnings call, we increased our cash flow ranges by $30 million.

And then also, as you think about our results for Q3, we're seeing that initial impact from our efforts through those operating cash flows and the outflows improving by $52 million on a year-to-date basis as compared to the first three quarters of 2021.

And then we think about heading into 2023 in Q1, we will be at a significantly lower cost basis on both the fixed and variable cost side..

Tobey Sommer

Okay. Thank you very much..

Operator

Thank you. One moment please file for our next question. Our next question will come from George Hill of Deutsche Bank. Your line is open..

George Hill

Hey good evening guys, and thanks for taking the questions. I kind of just have two topics I wanted to touch on. So, the first is you have CMS implementing the advanced marketing rules, I'm sorry, the advanced market recording rules for this year's AEP.

I guess, can you talk about what changes that creates for you guys, if any? I mean, I know from the call center business, you guys have always been recording calls, but I don't know if the changes CMS has implemented has created any changes in your workflow?.

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi, George, thanks for the question. It really hasn't changed anything for us. I mean, we've always recorded, call quality is critically important to us. It's really for beneficiary protection. And it's actually certainly grateful for us to continue to advance proficiency of our sales agents.

The one nuance I would say this year is that there was a requirement of disclaimer requirement that we -- third-party marketing organizations were required to within the first 60 seconds of a call, share with beneficiaries that we don't offer all plans within their geographic area.

And -- but it hasn't resulted in any issues for us as far as directing calls to CMS. So we -- our conversion rates are higher than they were last year. Our telesales is robust. So we're doing just fine and our call qualities are very high as well. So nothing -- no concerns on the CMS side..

George Hill

Okay. And then I guess my follow-up would be is, there's been a bunch of -- a little bit of concern at the margin, I guess, that that combined with the changes in the TV marketing ads is likely to drive down churn for this selling season, which I would assume is good for you guys, but could also slow market growth at the margin.

So I guess I would just ask.

I know we're only a couple of weeks in with it, maybe kind of do you see anything that could impact the market from a macro level as opposed to anything we see help specific?.

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, I think the -- what you're referring to is the 45-day approval process for TV advertising at CMS and post the new [Audio Gap] filing use, but they have 45 days to review TV commercial that carriers or any marketing organization wants to utilize.

And we're not utilizing DIRECTV this year, so it doesn't impact us as much as it might impact others. Look, churn is one of our top priorities, meaning reducing churn, increasing persistency.

And I think what CMS has been concerned about are some of the commercials that have featured some celebrities that really is aimed debt beneficiaries who might be eligible for Part B rebate. They promote that.

And they broader those down quite a bit, because they're only available on a very limited number of geographic areas in the country, and I think they were probably over-promoted in the past, CMS to credit really got after the organization to change the way they were promoted. And I think that's been a good thing.

It's not good for the industry to create any kind of messaging that can be easily misinterpreted. So we're very supportive of CMS efforts there to make sure that all communications are done in a way that is a good reflection on the industry..

George Hill

Okay. I appreciate the color. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. One moment for our next question. Our next question will come from Ben Hendrix of RBC Capital Markets. Your line is open..

Ben Hendrix

Thank you very much. I just wanted a quick question -- a quick question on the $90 million of cost savings this year. It makes sense the variable costs were mostly accrue to 4Q. But I was wondering if you could give us some more color on how that's manifesting here in the early weeks of AEP.

We're seeing that, for example, an increased to online penetration both in unassisted and assisted mix there in terms of enrollment, kind of just a little bit more color on how that's accruing? Thanks..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi, Ben. Thanks for the question. The cost savings, the cost transformation activities have been across a wide area of activity. I'm going to ask Christine to join me in this part of our conversation. But we've been at it since April, that's when we first launched our cost transformation initiatives.

And there's still more opportunities that we've already identified for the balance of this year and certainly into 2023. So, these are efficiencies and cost fixed and variable opportunities.

They're intended to be executed in ways that are really aimed at efficiencies and minimally disruptive in terms of what they mean for the organization and what they mean for certainly our customers as well as our carrier partners.

So as far as assisted and unassisted online, we look at all our channels as equal opportunities to support our growth objectives. We don't favor one over the other. It’s -- the objective here is to meet customers where they want to be met.

And in fact, we've even taken it to new levels by introducing live agent chat perhaps was in the past, the bias towards unassisted, we can actually improve the throughput on our top of the funnel by having the live agent chat capability. We're here before those were in completed sales.

And now by having a live chat capability, they're now converted to an assist it, and that was unproductive before, right, because people weren't completing the transaction, because they didn't have the ability to click on for help and now that changes. So it's just a different philosophy now.

We -- if it increases the acquisition costs incrementally, so be it. It results in a customer and a customer that we intend to keep for the lifetime. That's the goal. So it's a different philosophy in eHealth today. The platform, there's other ways to create efficiency.

We want that top of the funnel to be a source for lifetime value as for as much of the throughput as possible by introducing live chat, we think that there's greater opportunity for throughput. Christine, anything you want to add on the cost efficiency cycle..

Christine Janofsky

I think you covered a lot of it, Fran. I think there's a couple of things that I'll mention. As we think about the cost transformation we're looking at all costs, both variable and fix. On the variable side, certainly, that will be the largest portion of our cost reduction for this year.

mainly certainly from lower marketing spend and really focusing on the right channels that are going to provide us that right ROI and then having that corresponding reduction in the agent headcount to match that on a year-over-year basis.

And then on the fixed side, really looking at all of our fixed expenses and making sure that we have that right cost structure in play. And starting 2023 at a better cost basis than we did entering into 2022. And we're continuing to look at additional opportunities both on the variable, as we continue to hone in on what are the right areas of focus.

And then on the fixed side as well, one of the things that we mentioned was the Santa Clara lease. So we did a sublease on one of our office spaces. And that is something, as we have that remote first strategy from a people side that is an area that we'll continue to look at opportunities as well as other fixed costs expenses..

Ben Hendrix

Thanks for the color, guys..

Operator

Thank you. And one moment for our next question. Our next question will come from Daniel Grosslight of Citi. Your line is open..

Daniel Grosslight

Hi. Thanks for taking the question. One of your competitors noted that there's more MA planned differential, this AEP, which is leading to more shopping. I'm curious, if you're seeing the same thing off of your platform and what that may mean for one, you approved policies of AEP.

And then two, churn in older cohorts in your ability to recapture those seniors?.

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Hi Daniel, thanks for the question.

I don't know if I would refer to it as more planned differential or just greater value proposition, whether it's in the core or in the supplemental plans, but I'd also say there's greater economic pressure in general, just because inflation in America is being felt by those with fixed income, so -- and I wouldn't focus entirely on those who have an MA plan today, right, because there's -- think about the 60% of Americans who are in original Medicare or who have an original Medicare and have supplemental -- Medicare supplemental that are shopping for Medicare Advantage because, it does provide a much greater value proposition and can reduce the financial exposure that they're subjected to an original Medicare with coinsurance, deductibles, where they have that protection on a Medicare Advantage plan in large part with a $0 monthly premium.

So, I know there's concern about people switching and there could be people switching, but they could also be switching and staying with the same carrier, right, because carriers offer multiple plan options in the same geography, that doesn't necessarily result in beneficiaries having to switch the relationship with the carrier as well.

So, I just want to provide some perspective there that first and foremost, those in original Medicare gain a lot of protection by considering a Medicare Advantage alternative, even those with Medicare supplemental oftentimes because they're paying frequently a pretty high month with premium, and from a fixed income that can be challenging, particularly now with higher inflation.

So -- but back to your original point about differential, I think, it's just a value proposition is really very, very attractive for American beneficiaries today..

Daniel Grosslight

Yes. Makes sense. Okay. And then on the ISP segment, the inflation Reduction Act extended subsidies, ACA subsidies to provide 2024. I'm just curious, I know you're not over the index to the qualified brands, but I'm curious, if you think that will translate into faster ISP growth this year and next..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

I don't necessarily think it's going to be accelerated growth. I would call it more moderate growth. That's our thinking right now..

Daniel Grosslight

Got it. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And this will end the Q&A portion of the conference. I would now like to turn the conference back to Fran Soistman for closing remarks..

Fran Soistman Chief Executive Officer & Director

Well, thank you, operator, and thank you all very much for joining us this afternoon. Thanks for your -- thank you..

Operator

This will conclude today's conference call. Thank you all for participating. You may now disconnect and have a pleasant day..

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