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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2020 - Q1
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Operator

Good day and welcome to the Banner Corporation's First Quarter 2020 Conference Call and Webcast. [Operator Instructions] Please note, this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Mark Grescovich, President and Chief Executive Officer. Please go ahead, sir.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Rocco, and good morning, everyone. I would also like to welcome you to the first quarter 2020 earnings call for Banner Corporation.

As is customary, joining me on the call today is Rick Barton, our Chief Credit Officer; Peter Conner, our Chief Financial Officer; Financial Officer; Bill Rice, our Chief Commercial Credit Officer; and Rich Arnold, our Head of Investor Relations. Rich, would you please read our forward-looking safe harbor statement..

Rich Arnold Head of Investor Relations

Sure, Mark. Good morning. Our presentation today discusses Banner's business outlook and will include forward-looking statements.

Those statements include descriptions of management's plans, objectives or goals for future operations, products or services, forecast of financial or other performance measures and statements about Banner's general outlook for economic and other conditions.

We also may make other forward-looking statements in the question-and-answer period following management's discussion. These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, and actual results may differ materially from those discussed today.

Information on the risk factors that could cause actual results to differ are available in the earnings press release that was released yesterday and a recently filed Form 10-K for the year ended December31, 2019.

Forward-looking statements are effective only as of the date they are made and Banner assumes no obligation to update information concerning its expectations..

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Rich. And it's certainly been an interesting quarter and I hope you and your families are well as we all battle the COVID virus pandemic. Today, we will cover four primary items with you. First, I will provide you high level comments on the quarter.

Second, I’ll note that things Banner is currently doing to support all our stakeholders, including our Banner team, our clients, our communities and our shareholders. Third, Rick Barton will provide comments on the current status of our loan portfolio and accommodations we have made to assist our clients.

Finally, Peter Conner will provide more detail on our operating performance for the quarter and the build of our loan loss reserve associated with adopting CECL and taking into consideration the estimated credit impact of the pandemic.

I want to begin by thanking all of my 2,100 colleagues in our company that are working extremely hard to assist our clients and communities during these difficult times. Banner has lived our core values, summed up as doing the right thing for 130 years.

It is critically important that we continue to do the right thing for our clients, our communities, our colleagues, our company and our shareholders to provide a consistent and reliable source of commerce and capital through all economic cycles and change events. I am pleased to report that is exactly what we are doing.

I am very proud of the entire Banner team who are living our core values. Now let me turn to an overview of the first quarter performance. As announced, Banner Corporation reported a net profit available to common shareholders of $16.9 million or $0.47 per diluted share for the quarter ended March 31, 2020.

This compared to a net profit to common shareholders of $0.95 per share for the first quarter of 2019 and $0.95 per share in the fourth quarter of 2019.

This quarter's earnings were impacted by a number of items, including the adoption of CECL and the estimated impact of the pandemic on the economy and subsequently the increase in our loan loss reserve along with a net change in the fair value of financial instruments. Peter will discuss these items in more detail shortly.

Directing your attention to pretax, pre-provision earnings and excluding the impact of merger and acquisition expenses, gains and losses on the sale of securities and changes in the fair value of financial instruments earnings were $48.9 million for the first quarter 2020 compared to $46.4 million in the first quarter of 2019, an increase of 5%, This measure, I believe helps illustrate the core earnings power of Banner.

First quarter 2020 revenue from core operations was $142.9 million compared to $134.2 million in the first quarter of 2019. We benefited from a larger and improved earning asset mix, our interest margin that remained above 4% and good mortgage banking fee revenue.

Overall, including the higher loan loss provision this resulted in a return on average assets of 0.54% for the first quarter of 2020. Once again, our core performance this quarter reflects continued execution on our super community bank strategy.

That is, growing new client relationships, adding to our core funding position by growing core deposits and promoting client loyalty and advocacy through our responsive service model. To that point, our core deposits increased 13% compared to March 31, 2019.

Non-interest bearing deposits increased 11.7% from one year ago and represent a stable 39% of total deposits. Further, we continued our strong organic generation of new client relationships. Reflective of the solid performance coupled with our strong tangible common equity ratio of 9.7% we issued a dividend of $0.41 per share in the quarter.

Also in light of the uncertainty of the future economic climate, we have suspended our share repurchases. While we continue to monitor current conditions and the economic outlook, the company has not changed our policy of supporting our core dividend.

While we have limited operations in our branches, our workforce has been mobilized with nearly 60% working effectively remotely and the remainder available for in person meetings by appointment while others perform operational duties. We are working our drive-throughs and making sure our ATMs remain accessible and functioning.

We have also created special programs for our employees deemed worksite essential with premium pay and other benefits and we're providing additional paid time-off for exposure or sickness. Provide support for our clients, we have made available several assistance programs.

These include waived penalties for early IRA distributions up to $100,000 and CD withdraws up to $25,000 and increased daily limits on mobile checks, deposits and ATM withdrawals.

Further, through the first round of funding, Banner has provided SBA payroll protection funds totaling nearly $500 million for 1,345 businesses and provided deferred payments or waived interest on 2,415 loans totaling nearly $751 million as of April 24.

Finally, we have made significant contributions to local and regional nonprofits and provided initial support of $150,000 for emergency and basic needs in our footprint. Let me now turn the call over to Rick to discuss trends in our loan portfolio and his comments on Banner’s credit quality.

Rick?.

Rick Barton

hotel, $213 million; restaurants, $163 million; recreation and leisure, $90 million; health care practitioners, $124 million; health care facilities, $244 million; oil and gas exposure is nil on a direct basis with indirect exposure of less than $10 million; and our airline exposure is less than $10 million.

In order to better gauge portfolio issues, we are in the process on a relationship by relationship review of our loan portfolio. This will give us a good baseline to help manage our loan portfolio generally and problem credits individually through the duration of the pandemic.

We are committed to assist clients in a safe and sound manner as they deal with how the pandemic is impacting their businesses. In addition to the modifications just discussed, Mark outlined our participation in the payroll protection program, and we are assessing our participation in the upcoming Main Street lending initiative.

And we are looking for other actions that we can take to help our clients survive this unprecedented credit cycle. And finally, we are fortunate to operate in geographies that we're outperforming the national economy pre pandemic and that are home to many exceptional companies and research universities.

These footprint demographics, when combined with our strong credit metrics, loan portfolio diversification and capital structure, will serve us well as we work with our clients through this period of economic uncertainty. With that, I will turn the microphone over to Peter Conner for his comments.

Peter?.

Peter Conner

Thank you, Rick, and good morning, everybody. As discussed previously and as announced in our earnings release, we reported net income of $16.9 million, or $0.47 per diluted share, for the first quarter compared to $33.7 million, or $0.95 per diluted share in the prior quarter.

While core revenue increased $3.2 million from the fourth quarter, first quarter earnings were negatively impacted by the elevated CECL loan loss provision that contemplates deteriorating economic conditions and future periods. I'd like to make a few comments about our approach to the inaugural CECL reserve in the first quarter.

Total reserves, including the allowance for credit losses and reserves for unfunded loan commitments, increased $38.7 million from the fourth quarter to $142 million including the day 1 adoption of CECL and the day 2 provision for the first quarter.

The historical loss or quantitative component of our reserve model uses 12 years of actual loss history back to the first quarter of 2008 and incorporates the losses experienced during the Great Recession.

Our economic forecast assumption contemplated negative GDP growth in the 18% to 20% range and unemployment peaking at 9% in the second quarter, then remaining in the 6% to 7% range into 2021. The qualitative adjustment component reflects management judgments and conditions unique to our markets and portfolio.

Since quarter end, when we established the reserve, the economic outlook has deteriorated. However, the offsetting risk transfer effect of the fiscal stimulus provided by government loan programs that Banner is participating in are yet to be known, nor is the pace and timing of reopening of the economy.

Banner has used a prudent reserving methodology since the Great Recession, and we believe that we continue this practice in the first quarter based on the facts and circumstances that existed at quarter end, and we will continue to do so going forward. Turning to EPS.

The $0.48 decline in per share earnings from the prior quarter was primarily the result of the increase in loan loss provision expense and reduction in the value of financial instruments carried at fair value.

Total loans increased $48 million from prior quarter end as a result of increased refinance driven prepayments on one to four first lien mortgage loans, lower construction loan outstandings, along with a decline in held for sale loan outstandings.

We did not experience any material change in overall credit line usage as of the end of the first quarter. Organic portfolio loan growth, excluding held for sale loans, declined $19.6 million, held for sale loans declined by $28 million as bulk sales out of the multifamily portfolio exceeded production for the quarter.

Excluding the AltaPacific acquisition, loans held for portfolio grew by 3% over the prior year quarter. Ending core deposits increased $355 million from prior quarter end due to organic new account growth and general increases in average account balances as customer liquidity increased heading into the pandemic.

Excluding the AltaPacific acquisition, core deposits grew 9.3% over the prior year quarter. Time deposits increased by $46 million due to an increase in brokered CDS, while retail CDs remain flat. FHLB borrowings declined $203 million as a result of core deposit growth.

Net interest income remained even with the fourth quarter at $119 million as growth in average earning assets offset a small decline in net interest margin. Compared to the prior quarter, loan yields decreased 10 basis points, principally due to an overall decline in yield curve.

The average loan coupon declined 7 basis points, which was partially offset by an increase in accretion-related interest income of 2 basis points and a decrease in deferred loan origination, prepayment and interest penalty-related fees totaling 5 basis points.

Total cost of funds declined 6 basis points to 46 basis points as a result of lower deposit costs and wholesale funding costs. The cost of deposits declined from 40 basis points to 35 basis points in the first quarter due to declines in retail deposit costs.

Brokered CDs accounted for 4 basis points of the total deposit cost, 1 basis point lower than the prior quarter. Composition of non-interest-bearing deposits to total deposits held steady at 39% of total deposits and the ratio of core deposits to total deposits held steady at 84% in the first quarter.

The net interest margin declined modestly by 1 basis point to 4.19% as the decline in funding costs kept pace with the decline in earning asset yield.

An improvement in securities yields due to purchases of muni securities at distressed prices in March, along with slower prepayment speeds on MBS securities, helped to offset the impact of the decline in loan yields.

Loan accretion contributed 10 basis points to the margin in the first quarter, up 2 basis points from the 8 basis points loan accretion contributed to the margin in the fourth quarter.

The bank continued to adjust deposit rates down during the quarter and into April, and we anticipate seeing a continued decline in average deposit cost carry through into the second quarter. Total non-interest income declined by $1.1 million from the prior quarter.

The results this quarter included a loss of $4.6 million on fair value adjustments on securities held for trading in the investment portfolio due to higher credit spreads. Non-interest income, excluding losses on the sales of and changes in securities carried at fair value, increased $3.4 million.

Deposit fees increased $166,000 due to additional volume from the AltaPacific acquisition in mid-fourth quarter. Total mortgage banking income increased significantly by $3.9 million due primarily to an increase in residential mortgage gain on sales spreads on high refinance volume demand.

Within this line item, multifamily loan gain on sale income was down $669,000 from the fourth quarter due to losses on the held for sale interest rate hedge due to the decline in market rates and the slowdown in new loan production.

In the near term, multifamily loan production will remain muted as secondary market buyer demand has softened with the pandemic. Miscellaneous fee income decreased $562,000 due principally to lower SBA and swap income. Turning to non-interest expense. Total non-interest expense increased by $1.5 million from the prior quarter.

Excluding acquisition costs and pandemic specific operating costs, core non-interest expense increased $4.5 million.

Compensation expense increased $2.9 million due to a combination of higher payroll taxes normally experienced this time of year, along with higher medical claims expense in the first quarter following an accrual release in the fourth quarter.

While we did not see COVID-19 specific related medical claims in the first quarter, we did experience an increase in routine medical claims in advance of the stay-at-home orders. The credit for capitalized loan origination costs declined by $3 million in the first quarter due to a substantial decline in new loan production.

Provision expense for unfunded loan commitments increased $1.7 million as a result of the day 2 CECL required reserve model as applied to undrawn loan commitments. This increase was proportionate to the change in the increase in the reserve for the allowance for credit losses discussed previously.

Other expenses generally declined in the first quarter as a result of lower client transaction activity, employee travel and conference and facility costs, all driven by the state homeowners in effect across Banner's footprint.

The AltaPacific systems conversion, facilities closures and operational integration were successfully completed in February, and we remain on track to achieve the expense synergies contemplated in the pro forma when the acquisition was announced.

Our ongoing delivery platform efficiency improvement initiatives have been suspended during this period and will be resumed once the company returns to a normal operational footing.

We are tracking pandemic specific operating costs, including COVID-19 specific items such as employee salary premiums, overtime, benefits and medical claims, customer communications, facility sanitization, cash and courier rooms, supplies and certain IT costs enabling a remote work environment.

We anticipate the increase from these pandemic specific costs will be less than the offsetting reduction in normal operating costs we would have typically incurred over the same period for conferences and travel, marketing and branch transaction driven costs. This concludes my prepared remarks.

Mark?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Peter and Rick, for your comments. That concludes our prepared remarks. And Rocco, we will now open the call and welcome your questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Today's first question comes from Jackie Bohlen with KBW. Please go ahead..

Jackie Bohlen

Good morning, everyone. I wanted to dig into mortgage banking first, just given the meaningful increase quarter-on-quarter. Peter, that was helpful to know the multifamily impact on a linked-quarter basis.

Can you have the dollar value of its contribution to fee income this quarter?.

Peter Conner

Jackie, it's Peter. Yes, it was about $400,000 for the quarter. So it's a bit lower than it has been. As I described in my prepared remarks, most of that – well, it was due to two pieces. It was due to the decline in the hedge that we put on the pipeline prior to selling the loans.

And then two, production for the quarter was lower than we normally experienced, in part due to the first quarter and then as the pandemic began to emerge, that also negatively affected production in multifamily..

Jackie Bohlen

Okay.

And it sounds like that production in those trends are likely to continue in the near term for that specific piece of it?.

Peter Conner

Yes, that's correct. We pulled back on production and increased pricing in anticipation of a slowdown in the demand in our secondary buyer universe of buyer universe of other banks. So we've preemptively slowed down production going forward..

Jackie Bohlen

That’s helpful. Thank you. And then turning to the single-family piece of it, I'm just doing some basic head math, so I'm going to be off a little bit here. But it looks like the single-family piece almost doubled this quarter in terms of gains.

Was that all due to gain on sale margin? Or was there higher volume as well in the quarter?.

Peter Conner

It was due to margin. We were actually down in terms of production, a little over 10% from the fourth quarter. The mix in terms of refinance and purchase continued to increase towards the refinance side.

It was about 50-50 refinance purchase in the first quarter, and we experienced such a high demand of refinance volume that we were able to increase pricing and generate a higher gain on sale this quarter, well above what we've normally experienced. The gain on sale is a bit over 4% on a net basis for the quarter.

So all of that increase was driven by higher gain on sale..

Jackie Bohlen

Okay.

And do you have what it was for the fourth quarter?.

Peter Conner

The – I'm sorry, what was the question?.

Jackie Bohlen

The – what the gain on sale was for the fourth quarter, just so I can compare the two..

Peter Conner

Yes. It was running in the mid-2% range in terms of gain on sale percentage..

Jackie Bohlen

Okay. And how are you looking at this line item in the current quarter? I know refi volume is likely to continue to be strong. But given the state of home owners, I would suspect that purchases are down significantly..

Peter Conner

We're seeing – so far, the evidence is that, at least in the first part of this quarter, that the pipelines are holding up well. Although it's – we're not through the quarter yet, so we haven't seen a diminishment of demand or volume coming in so far.

I would anticipate we'll see us somewhat lower spread on loans, a gain on sales spread in the second quarter all things equal. So I anticipated a decline and gain sale income number in Q2. But we continue to see strong refinance volume. And then as you know, normally we see some seasonal increase due to weather in the second and third quarter.

So that's a bit of an offset to what we'd normally see in terms of the slowdown in refinance volume. So I think right now we see steady as she goes in terms of production for the second quarter albeit at a lower gain on sale..

Jackie Bohlen

Okay.

So that line item, probably from a single family perspective, probably winds up somewhere between 4Q and 1Q?.

Peter Conner

Yes, that's fair..

Jackie Bohlen

Okay. And then just one last one and I'll step back. You mentioned the conversion was done in February.

How much of the cost savings have you realized from AltaPacific to date?.

Peter Conner

Yes. So through, we would have recognized 100% of them by the end of the first quarter. So we really are effectively done with the costs. Any remaining costs really are de minimis at this point. So what we'd see in the second quarter is a full amount of the synergies that we contemplated when we announced the transaction back in July 25 of 2019..

Jackie Bohlen

Great. Thank you. I'll step back..

Operator

Our next question today comes from Gordon McGuire of Stephens, Inc. Please go ahead..

Gordon McGuire

Good morning. Mark, I guess, could you provide updated expectations for how you're thinking about net growth this year and origination activity.

And I guess, Peter, how would that origination activity translate into the capitalized origination costs in the salaries expense line?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. Gordon, this is Mark. I'll take the first part of that question. I think we had initiated some our thoughts that we would see some mid-single-digit growth in the loan book. I think it's, as we suspect now we're looking at it and suggesting that the capital spending is not going to occur until the latter half of the year.

And you're going to start to see some businesses will certainly draw down some of their working capital facilities as economy begins to rebound, but we're not anticipating that until later in the year. And the continued low interest rate environment is going to lead to additional refinancing specifically in the one to four family books.

So I think you can view our – look at the overall loan growth as being flat. Peter, do you want to comment on the….

Peter Conner

Yes. Hi, Gordon, it’s Peter. In terms of the deferred loan origination expense, I think we'll see some modest increase in that credit to compensation expense going into Q2 and Q3. We typically – we have a fairly low seasonal loan production in the first quarter, just naturally based on our business model.

But as Mark highlighted, we're expecting a lower pace of production this year given the pandemic. So you've got to kind of balance that into what we normally see as an increase in loan production in second quarter will be muted because of the pandemic.

So you’ve got to kind of balance that into what we normally see an increase, and loan production in the second quarter will be muted because of the pandemic. But I’d guide to a modest increase in that line item going into Q2. The other wildcard is the SBA PPP program, right? That, too, has some modest amount of loan origination offset.

But yes, that’s yet to be determined based on the quantity we end up doing in the second quarter..

Gordon McGuire

I appreciate that.

Speaking of the PPP program, do you have an estimated – estimate of what the blended P rate could be?.

Peter Conner

Yes, this is Peter. So we – today, based on what we’ve announced in terms of the first tranche of production, the average weighted loan processing fee was right at 3%, but that had a higher weighting of larger loans that were front-loaded in some ways in the first round of production.

And we expect that as we go forward, that average loan size will decline and the fee will go up. So I think we’re going to be closer to 3.5% as opposed to 3% by the time the second quarter ends..

Gordon McGuire

Okay.

And then how many loans did you have in the pipeline pending approval? And just what’s the pipeline for round two? How is that looking?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, Gordon. So we had north of 5,000 inquiries coming into the overall program. And you saw the numbers that we put in the deck as to what we did through the initial phase, which was 1,345 businesses receiving $448 million in funding.

I obviously would anticipate that those numbers are a bit larger in terms of applications approved by the bank and waiting etran approval by the SBA.

So provided that we can get the etran system up and running effectively for the bank, as they go through the approval process, you could see that number looking very similar provided there’s enough funds and the SBA can process them. And again, the numbers I gave you in terms of earning asset growth or loan growth are without this particular program.

So net of this program, which obviously will inflate the balance sheet.

Peter, do you have any additional remarks to that?.

Peter Conner

No, I think you covered it lot more..

Gordon McGuire

Thanks for clarifying that last point.

And how do you expect to fund these balances? Are you bringing deposits in? Or you expect to use PPLF or FHLB? How is the balance sheet supposed to be funded for these?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Peter, do you want this?.

Peter Conner

Yes, yes. Thanks, Mark. Yes, we’re – Gordon, we’re going to fund them with the PPP lending facility from the Fed, which, as you know, is 35 basis points, but that also is required in order to get any regulatory capital relief as well. So our plan at this juncture is to fund the entirety of the PPP loan balance with that Fed facility..

Gordon McGuire

Okay. I’ll step back. Thank you..

Operator

Our next question today comes from David Feaster with Raymond James. Please go ahead..

David Feaster

Hey, good morning, everybody..

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning, David..

David Feaster

I just kind of wanted to follow up on the PPP question.

Are you primarily just focused on existing customers or using this as an opportunity to expand relationships? And are you able to even ask for more full deposit relationship as you’re supporting your client base?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. This is Mark. Look, I think the first and foremost that we’re doing is trying to support all the businesses that are looking for an application and relief through the PPP program, and that’s the approach we’ve taken.

Many of them are clients, some of them are not clients and we’re trying to support everybody who approaches the bank with that particular plan. I don’t view this as a program in its stage right now, obviously, given the quick utilization of the initial funding as one in which it’s a true marketing plan for the bank.

We are doing this to help the businesses and communities in which we operate, and that’s how it’s set up. This is not set up as a marketing grab for competing against other banks.

We hope the other financial institutions are mobilizing as strongly as we are with our staff trying to process these to help the businesses and the communities in which we all operate. So our approach to this is one of folks coming in that are – if they qualify and they fill out an application and they get in the queue, we’re going to service them..

David Feaster

Okay. That’s helpful. And then just on deposits, generally, you guys have done a tremendous job growing low-cost core deposits.

I guess just given all the stimulus done at the market and the treasury actions and everything, how do you think about core deposit growth going forward? And maybe in light of a flat loan growth environment, where do you – how do you plan on using excess liquidity?.

Peter Conner

Hi, David, Peter here. We’ve seen an increase in account level and client liquidity and deposit accounts, and we are seeing some inflows from the PPP program as well going into deposit accounts as those ones get funded. So we think this increase in liquidity is really bifurcated into two components.

There’s a piece that it’s going to go back off-balance sheet in the next quarter or two, one funding proceeds – use of proceeds from the PPP program will go back off-balance sheet. And then we think there’s a component here that’s going to be more sticky. It will hang around for a while, this increased liquidity.

So we are going to invest it, but on a duration weighted basis to basically take advantage of the short-term liquidity but not creating an excessive liquidity risk for the company and creating a lot of excess duration with this new fan liquidity over the long run.

So it’s a blend of investments both short, medium and long based on where we believe the duration of these deposits will go ultimately..

David Feaster

Okay.

And then I guess, ultimately, how do you think about the core NIM in light of all that going forward? Just how do you think about that? And then also any thoughts on accretion going forward under CECL?.

Peter Conner

Yes. The – so we – our margin of 4.19% for the quarter was good. It was also – we had a good quarter. Loan accretion was up a couple of basis points from the prior quarter. Accretion was a bit lumpy. But we anticipate that loan accretion component to gradually decline quarter-to-quarter.

So we’re not going to see the level of accretion support that we saw in the first quarter. Going forward, it will drop a couple of basis points, we think one or two every quarter as we go forward. So you’ll take that into account. And then we did look at the spot rate on our loan yields at March 31.

So we – after the 150 basis point cut in Fed funds and prime compared to the average loan yield that we reported in the quarter, which was 5.03%. We did see about a 25 basis point decline in the spot rate on loan yields at March 31. So you can take that into account and then factor in a continuing decline in our funding costs.

As I mentioned earlier, we continue to have a steady case of deposit rate reduction, along with a steady pace of lower wholesale funding costs to partially offset the decline in loan yields. I did mention in my prepared remarks, our securities yields were up this quarter, partly due to a slower prepayment activity in our MBS.

But also due to the fact that we purchased about $240 million of munis and high-rated corporates at very distressed prices in that third week of March when there was a significant dislocation in the markets. And so that basket of securities came on at about a 4% tax adjusted yield.

So that will create a little bit of support on the securities portfolio going forward. So all that being said, it’s – we don’t provide guidance on the margin specifically. And in this quarter, the PPP program is going to have another element of effect on the margin with the loan processing fee and the pace of loan fundings on PPP.

We actually think the PPP program will be accretive to margin in the first two quarters of its existence. And so you have to factor that into your margin expectations against a generally declining organic loan yield that we would have had otherwise..

David Feaster

Thanks, everybody..

Operator

Our next question comes from Andrew Liesch with Piper Sandler. Please go ahead..

Andrew Liesch

Good morning, everyone. Just kind of a follow-up question on the margin here. I know you guys have been putting loan floors, and that’s been a focus for a while.

Just what percentage of loans are at floors right now? And what percentage of the portfolio is tied to fixed rates?.

Peter Conner

Andrew, it’s Peter. I’ll start with the mix question. So our loan repricing mix has remained relatively stable over time, and it continues to be that way. About 40% of our loan book is fixed rate, and the remaining 60% is basically split between adjustable.

Loans have repriced between three months and five years and the rest of it’s floating on prime or LIBOR. In terms of loan floors, we’ve got about $2.8 billion or so of loans that are either floating or adjustable with the floor. And as of today, about 70% of that book is at its floor or close to at its floor.

And the remaining portion is – still got some spread between its strike price and actual floor. So there’s some support there, but we’ll continue to see some decline in floating rate loan yield as we go forward.

And we have instilled the discipline of floors and all new floating rate loan originations as a general rule, unless they’re exception approved. So there is some support there.

And I think the other point to make here is that over time, there’s a natural floor to loan pricing that the market will accept in terms of expected credit losses and loan origination expense that will improve spreads over those indices over time. This is a natural market effect..

Andrew Liesch

Got you. I agree. That’s pretty helpful. And then just on the expenses, noninterest expenses here, excluding some of the merger charges and some of the onetime COVID-19 expenses that you called out. It looked like the quarterly number is around $94 million or so.

If the – I guess, if the origination credit is a little bit larger number this quarter and you see expenses come down a little bit, is like a $93 million run rate the right level to be looking at going forward?.

Peter Conner

Yes, David, that’s – part of that, as you point out, it’s relatively light quarter of loan origination credit to expense in the first quarter. As I mentioned earlier, we think that – I think that number is going to move up a bit here in the second quarter as loan production goes up relative to the first quarter. So you’ll see some benefit there.

We’ll get some of the synergy benefit from AltaPacific showing up beginning in the second quarter. It’s not a big acquisition. So I’m not going to say it’s a big component, but we will see the full synergies of that integration begin in the second quarter.

And then as I guided to earlier, our employee-related costs for travel conferences and some other activity that would normally happen aren’t happening because of the stay at home order, so we’ll see some benefits there going forward.

The other point I mentioned is that as we’ve discussed previously, we have ongoing initiatives to improve the operating efficiency in our delivery platform, both the retail branch network and our commercial delivery platform and some automation initiatives that will improve efficiency. Those have been pushed back given the pandemic.

So they – while they’re still active, they’ve been deferred during the pandemic, so the pace of our improving operating efficiency has been pushed out during the pandemic. So we want to take that into account. As you think about the end of 2020 and 2021 and beyond, we’ll resurrect those projects. But right now, they’re on pause for about six months..

Andrew Liesch

Got you. That’s helpful. Thanks very much. I’ll step back..

Peter Conner

Thank you, Andrew..

Operator

And our next question comes from Jeff Rulis with D.A. Davidson. Please go ahead..

Jeff Rulis

Thanks. Good morning. A bunch of questions have been asked.

But I guess on the PPP, do you have any sense for the percent of those that you funded that would be included in the at-risk group in terms of those that you’ve identified, which participated in the PPP as well?.

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

I’ll ask Rick to comment on that..

Rick Barton

Good morning, Jeff. We have not done the segment analysis yet. I was holding off on doing that until we get through the current round of funding so that we have a little more comprehensive view of how the money was used.

I can’t say just from my review of the list that we have funded to date that it’s spread throughout all sectors, and it’s not concentrated in any one of the segments that we have identified as high risk with a possible exception that the word hotel pops up in the list quite frequently..

Jeff Rulis

Okay.

So equal share, you think, if it was 9% or 10% of the portfolio, that would be your best guess with a higher percentage of hotel?.

Rick Barton

That’s where I would start from. Yes, Jeff..

Jeff Rulis

Fair enough. Okay. And then, Mark, I think I know the answer to this, but I’ll ask it anyway. Just on the buyback and capital, just sort of revisit those thoughts. I know that we’re – we’ve got to stay prudent on how this plays out.

But when – or kind of the triggers on buyback, when that may be back in play and just thoughts in capital in general, I appreciate it..

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Jeff. I think as indicated in my prepared remarks, we’ve obviously suspended any share repurchase just as other financial institutions have.

There’s still too much uncertainty as to how this is all going to play out over the course of the next 12 months, and we want to make sure that our capital position remains very strong and that we’re supporting our clients through this. So that’s number one.

The other thing, as part of my prepared remarks, is we evaluate all of our capital deployment all the time. And on a quarterly basis, we certainly, as an institution, look at our dividend policy. And as identified in the first quarter, we issued a $0.41 dividend.

A core dividend is certainly something that is top of mind for the Board and for the institution in terms of capital deployment. But first and foremost, obviously, it’s going to be to support our clients through this.

And as we’ve done in the past with share repurchase, we’ve been opportunistic as to when we would deploy that when we feel comfortable that we have good understanding as to what the economic profile of the country is going to be, and in particular, the bank’s overall risk appetite is going to be and risk component is going to be over the next several months.

And right now, it’s just too early to tell..

Jeff Rulis

No. I appreciate the color there. And maybe one last one for Rick. The – it sounded pretty positive on that kind of progressing well on that agribusiness credit.

Is that classification possibly going to change out of nonaccrual? Or given it’s kind of the regulatory environment, could that be considered a TDR? Or how do you view that credit and its ultimate processing here as we go forward?.

Rick Barton

Okay. Well, as I said in my remarks, we’re pleased with the progress that we have made to date. But these are just the first baby steps in what’s going to be a long-term workout. And it’s going to be probably at least a year before we could consider moving it out of nonaccrual unless something really remarkable happens.

If it was out of nonaccrual today for whatever reason it probably would be a troubled debt restructure.

Sort of a vague answer, but when we get into these very difficult workout situations that have a long tenor to them and you’re in the really very early stages, it’s hard to, at this point, put markers in the road and say, this is going to happen by such and such a date..

Jeff Rulis

Understood. Rick, what was the size of that? Just forgetting what the piece was..

Rick Barton

About $18 million..

Jeff Rulis

Got it. Okay. Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And this concludes your question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the conference back over to the management team for any final remarks..

Mark Grescovich President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Great. Thank you, Rocco. This is Mark Grescovich. As I stated, we’re very proud of the Banner team as we continue to do the right thing as we battle this COVID pandemic. Thank you for your interest in Banner and for joining our call today. We look forward to reporting our results to you again in the future. Have a wonderful and safe day, everyone.

Bye now..

Operator

Thank you. This concludes today’s conference call. You may now disconnect your lines, and have a wonderful day..

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