Good day, and welcome to the USANA Health Sciences Third Quarter Conference Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mr. Patrique Richards, Executive Director of Investor Relations and Business Development. Please go ahead, sir..
Thank you, and good morning. We appreciate you joining us to review our third quarter results. Today's conference call is being broadcast live via webcast and can be accessed directly from our website at ir.usana.com. Shortly following the call, a replay will be available on our website.
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I'm joined this morning by -- with our -- by our CEO and Chairman of the Board, Kevin Guest; our President, Jim Brown; our Chief Financial Officer, Doug Hekking; as well as other executives. Yesterday, after the market closed, we announced our third quarter results and posted our management commentary document on the company's website.
We'll now hear brief remarks from Kevin before opening the call for questions..
one, improving our technology and providing our associates and customers with a seamless shopping experience; two, launching new products and product lines; three, identifying and executing growth opportunities in existing markets; four, pursuing international expansion opportunities; and five, capitalizing on business development opportunities, including strategic investments and acquisitions.
I'll close by saying that we remain confident in the strategies we are pursuing for the long-term health of our business, and in our overall long-term growth potential in our markets globally. With that, I'll now ask the operator to please open the lines for questions..
[Operator Instructions]. We'll take our first question from Stephanie Wissink with Jefferies..
Team, it's actually Chris [indiscernible] on for Steph. I wanted to touch on the fourth quarter, if I might. The midpoint of your guide really implies a flattish to slightly negative sales number.
But just given the outsized drop in customers reported at the end of this past quarter, how do you gain confidence in generating that level of revenue on a smaller overall starting base? Are you seeing anything, October to date, that would imply this sort of attrition has kind of stabilized?.
Chris, this is Doug. I'd probably hold off on giving too much color on what we're seeing so far in the quarter. But 1 of the nice aspects of how we report our customer accounts is it gives a true measure who purchased during the quarter.
And what you saw in the third quarter represented -- I think, as you indicated in some of the notes, a fall off from where we were in the prior quarter and the year ago quarter. And a great deal of that fall off had to do with the absence of a short-term sales program during the quarter.
And we were quite optimistic about many of the aspects we were kind of pushing on and a little disappointed that we didn't see some of those customer accounts cascade forward. We saw a similar pattern last year after we ran this program.
We definitely made increased effort, but I think the environment made it a little bit more challenging to kind of execute on many of the things that we wanted to execute on. And we're still working on it. It's -- we still recognize it as a critical part about touching those customers early in their journey with the company.
As far as the fourth quarter goes, listen, I think the measures that you saw in the third quarter and what we're expecting in the fourth quarter would go back and lead you to believe that we'd see something roughly similar in customer accounts that we saw in the third quarter.
And so based upon the guidance we put out there, I think that's roughly our expectations at this point..
Got it. That's great color.
And then for my second one, I just wanted to ask if it's your sense that maybe the drop in customers, do you think that's a reflection that some may have moved away to maybe alternative solutions? And then maybe just as a quick follow-up to that, how do you really think about kind of reactivating and reengaging some of those lost customers and associates? Any color there would be great..
Yes. And once again, I think when we have a pretty prominent short-term program like we had in the third quarter of last year and the second quarter of this year, we have seen some dips in customer accounts following that. We believe that we changed a little bit of the structure and we put some programs in place to offset that.
And that's obviously not what we saw, and we're definitely not totally pleased with the results. And I think the environment definitely has something to do with it. But I think it's less to do with kind of the overall thing. And I think it's more to do with the customers that we brought on during that period of time and how we engaged them early on.
Kevin?.
Yes. Yes. This is Kevin. An additional thought is we continue to focus our strategy on growing our active customer count, which is an opportunity for us to look at retention and how to retain people.
And our long-term strategy over the last several years that we've talked about on these calls is our advance in technology and advancing our technology base. And so we're starting to see some of those things roll out, which we believe will help us in the future as it relates to our active customer count..
And then the second part of your question, Chris, was really reengaging some of those customers. We always have some problem going on. The marketing team always has an outrage going on. Oftentimes, that's met with somewhat limited success as far as reaching out to someone after they're not buying any more. But it's something we continue to do.
And I think we're finding new things that do work as we move forward..
[Operator Instructions]. We'll take our next question from Doug Lane with Lane Research..
You mentioned the delaying of certain new products given the COVID-19 resurgence and the disruptions there to your business.
Can you be a little bit more specific on what the change in plans was there? Is it basically just been pulled back from a 2021 event and will be included in 2022? Or exactly how did that time line change?.
Yes. I think that's pretty much it. Either they got pushed to the fourth quarter or you'll see them kind of roll into the first part of next year.
And I think a lot of it has to do -- and I think it's well reported out there, Doug, that you're just seeing some disruption just even in transit times and doing some of this other stuff and whether that market is really able to fully roll that out in the current environment, and it really is market specific on how it's impacted us..
And what were the key products that were delayed?.
We still had some additional work with our Active Nutrition and some -- I guess, some products that had some pretty close ties to that. And just kind of our standard -- some product introductions that we had scheduled that have been kind of pushed out. But primarily, Active Nutrition was a big focal point..
Does that change your outlook for 2022? Will that [indiscernible] out from product activity you had slated for 2022? Or will that just be added to what was already on the [indiscernible] of 2022?.
Yes. I don't think it -- provided that we don't have any more unforeseen kind of challenges, I don't think it should disrupt other plans that we had for 2022..
Okay. That's fair enough. And then same question really with live events. If I remember right, you were talking about a live event to the fourth quarter, and I assume that that's been scrapped.
But can you update us on when you expect to be hosting major live events again?.
Yes. Go ahead, Jim. I'll let you take that one..
So right now, in China, they're having a national meeting that's scheduled for the beginning of December, so right around the corner. That is scheduled now to be live. Of course, that could always change according to the market. In market, there are large events that are happening there.
In our second quarter at our AP convention, that's going to be a virtual event like we've been doing. And then August of next year at our international 30th anniversary event, that's planned to be live. Again, those could change according to requirements or what happens with the demic, but right now that's the schedule..
And Doug, maybe to add on there, I think once again, it really relates to what the activity level is in market and really what makes sense in the market given the current environment. So it's nice to see. And I think the China team is eager to go back and have some in-person opportunity to go back and engage and do this other stuff.
And so we're hopefully that comes to pass like we're planning. I think you've seen Korea be able to go back and have a few small in-person events as well. And so we see that as a very encouraging sign going forward as well..
Okay. That's helpful. And the global events in Salt Lake City, and that's next August or July, I believe.
And you mentioned it's the 30th anniversary, so I would expect maybe a bigger news than usual? How should we think about what kind of promotional and product events are going to happen around your 30th anniversary convention?.
Yes. It's interesting times because under normal circumstances, it would be a huge event. The thing that we're going to do is we're going to continue to have that live. And we know that there's certain markets, for example China, that gets 1,000 to 1,500 people that come, may not be open to come into the event.
Of course, we want to look at potentially having some products to be announced at the convention and entertainment at a different level than we have in the past because of the 30th anniversary.
But when we come to attendance and what we're planning, we're planning kind of flat to down from previous years when we've had that event, only because we're just not sure of what markets will be open at that time..
No, that makes total sense. And just lastly, can you talk about China? Just what's going on with that market? I mean, other than just sort of the pandemic-related openings and closings that we read about in the paper.
What about the nutritional supplement market in general and your business there? Specifically following that 100-day review period, which really doesn't seem that anybody has really recovered from that.
What just -- can you talk about the market for supplements and USANA's products specifically in China?.
Yes. I think some of the broader market indicators we see is we see some support for those types of products. I think, obviously, the pandemic has brought a lot of the stuff to the forefront or top-of-mind type discussions.
But without a doubt, Doug, I think some of the things you're saying is true -- that was a pretty disruptive event that definitely had a disruption in consumer confidence. But I think the recognition of playing a role in your own health and taking products that are additive there, I think, is definitely on the mind. So I think we're optimistic.
I think what we're hearing from the team there is optimistic with some of the plans they have rolling out next year, but it's been a longer process than what we had anticipated..
That concludes today's question-and-answer session. Speakers, at this time, I will turn the conference back over to you for any additional or closing remarks..
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