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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2022 - Q2
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Operator

Good day, and welcome to the SQM Second Quarter 2022 Earnings Conference Call. All participants will be in a listen-only mode. After today’s presentation, there will be an opportunity to ask questions. Please note this event is being recorded. I would now like to turn the conference over to Ms. Kelly O'Brien, Head of Investor Relations.

Please, go ahead, ma'am..

Kelly O’Brien

Good morning. Thank you for joining SQM's earnings conference call for the six months ended June 30, 2022. This conference call will be recorded and is being webcast live. Following this call, we will be able to access the webcast at our website, www.sqm.com.

Our earnings press release and our presentation with a summary of the results have been uploaded to our website as well. Speaking on the call today will be Ricardo Ramos, CEO; and Gerardo Illanes, CFO; and Felipe Smith, Vice President of Lithium and Iodine Asia Pacific.

Before we begin, let me remind you that statements in this conference concerning the company’s business outlook, future economic performances, anticipated profitability, revenues, expenses or other financial items, anticipated cost synergies and product or service line growth, together with other statements that are not historical facts are forward-looking statements as that term is defined under federal securities laws.

Any forward-looking statements are estimates reflecting the best judgment of SQM based on currently available information and involves a number of risks, uncertainties and other factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those stated in such statements, including our ability to successfully implement the sustainable development plan, risks, uncertainties and factors that could affect the accuracy of such forward-looking statements are identified in our public filings made with the US Securities and Exchange Commission and in our earnings release issued last night and these forward-looking statements should be considered in light of those factors.

We assume no obligation to update such statements whether as a result of our new information, future developments or otherwise, except as required by law. I now leave you with our Chief Executive Officer, Ricardo Ramos..

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Yes, Kelly, maybe one extra clarification that also Felipe Miranda, who is the Head of Business Intelligence, is joining the call..

Felipe Miranda

Sure..

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thank you, Felipe. Thank you, Kelly. Good morning and thank you for joining the call today. We are very pleased with the results we’ve had. These results were influenced by positive market conditions of fertilizers, iron and lithium, where we saw historical high prices during the first six months of the year.

Lithium represented 73% of our gross profit. This comes at a great moment, as this year we are celebrating 25 years in the lithium industry.

After engaging in the public-private alliance with CORFO, both parties, along with a lot of communities and the country as a whole are enjoying the benefits of our investments through know-how, R&D and harder work.

In the lithium industry, we continue to see strong indicators related to the demand growth, particularly in China, where it was reported that the electric vehicles sales were over double during the first half of 2022 of 113% growth when compared with the same period last year.

Recent months show that this trend remains, electric vehicle sales in China were reportedly over 132% higher in June 2022 compared to June 2021. We believe that demand for the year will grow at least 35%, pending there are no negative news related to the pandemic or a global recession.

Given all of this, it seems likely that prices will remain relatively stable during the remainder of 2020.

While financial contribution of $2.2 billion will be paid to public funds as a result of our leasing operations during the first half of the year, we are even more proud that we are a leading player in the green revolution through our lithium production, sales and expertise.

Our state-of-the-art lithium plant is producing lithium that includes direct acute edge battery technology throughout the world, positively supporting a global CO2 reduction through an electric vehicle transition..

Kelly O’Brien

Chuck, we are now ready to open the line to questions..

Operator

Thank you. We will now begin the question-and-answer session And the first question will come from Corinne Blanchard with Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead..

Corinne Blanchard

Hi, everyone. Thank you for taking my question and congratulations on the good quarter. I have two questions. The first one would be on pricing. It seems you have renegotiated some of the contracts move away even further from the long-term contracts to move to the shorter-term contract.

Can we expect further contract negotiation in 3Q and 4Q? Meaning could we see even closer to 90% or 95% of benchmark index prices? Then my second question would be on the cost. It seems like there was a significant cost increase in this quarter, so I would like to go into detail on this..

Felipe Smith

Corinne, this is Felipe Smith. Hello. We are indeed talking with some of the customers with whom we have a contract that we're restricted in terms of moving with the market price. We hope that in the coming weeks, we can improve that situation. We have already successfully agreed to modify those contracts.

We appreciate also the openness of our customers, who understand that it makes more commercial strength to follow the market. So yes, I would say that hopefully, we can improve the – that provision in the coming months. Corinne, if you have – go ahead, Corinne..

Corinne Blanchard

Just maybe following up on that.

Would you like to say like going into 2023, are you still going to have any of those legacy or like long-term contract in next year?.

Felipe Smith

I would say, first of all, that we will try, of course, to have the maximum possible amount from that following the market. As you know, SQM has a very good position in terms of costs. So for us, it makes a lot of sense to have customers that -- sorry, contract that can follow the market.

This is also gives us flexibility, and we feel comfortable with market index price contracts. And I think it makes sense also, again to our customers to have something that can offer that possibility. Now, some of these contracts of course, will still remain.

Some of the restricted contracts will probably remain over the next year, but it will be a very small portion..

Corinne Blanchard

Thank you..

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Regarding your question about the cost, well the main contributor to the account cost you are seeing is related to the payments we make to corporate. We pay to corporate as a function of our exports from Chile and the average sales price to third party.

As we keep on increasing capacity and we keep on producing more, we're exporting more volumes from Chile that should, in the near future, be sold to customers as product reaches the different markets in which we participate.

Remember that our integrated operations of Value Addition Pros are getting into it, while the main markets are in the other end of the world. In Nation, the effect was particularly relevant this quarter, as we exported close to 53,000 metrics tonnes, while our sales were approximately 34,000 metric tonnes.

All of this, coupled with other payments and contributions we make under the Public Private Alliance with CostCo , had an accounting impact on our reported cost of good sold in the business line. But bear in mind that part of this was also reflected as an increase in our cost of inventory.

If prices keep on increasing as dramatically as we saw during the first half of the year, or if the ratio between the sales and exports during each quarter doesn't change, we may see, in fact, like this in the future. Anyway, our only cost, that is cash cost of depreciation, is around , slightly higher than last year.

But this is despite and pressure that we are all seeing, quality improvements that we're making in our production and our ESG..

Corinne Blanchard

Great. Thank you. I appreciate the color..

Operator

The next question will come from Joel Jackson with BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead..

Joel Jackson

Hi, good morning. Good morning or good afternoon. A few questions. This question you sort of touched on a little bit, but how much visibility do you have in the first half of ’23 pricing right now? So, you have a little bit of fixed pricing that sticks around, otherwise the rest is all going to be market based.

So, you don't really have visibility, or do you have some visibility into the first half of the year? Thank you.

On lithium pricing?.

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Hello. Well look, first of all, I would like to comment that the demand this year has shown to be very strong. Actually, we are estimating that demand will be 30% higher than last year, which is a little bit above our previous estimations. At the same time, we have seen some delay in the supply of lithium in the new capacities coming on stream.

So that is what is explaining today, the average pressure on the price. Okay. Now it is, of course, I could speak maybe for the coming months of this year that we believe that this pressure could probably remain to some extent, but it is difficult to predict what will happen next year? One thing for sure, is that demand will remain strong.

As a matter of fact if we look at 2025, we are expecting that demand will be well above 1 million metric tons and by 2030 around 2.5 million tons. So, this is something we cannot deny. Demand is very strong. And it will depend on how the supply can catch up with in demand, what will be the price.

Maybe one additional piece of information we are estimating that by 2025, around 40% of the supply will need to come probably from junior or newcomers and this represents, of course, some risk to the supply. .

Joel Jackson

Ricardo thank you for that. So, my next question would be you got some customers, some OEMs, I guess, to agree to reprice up lithium pricing that already been settled in a fixed contract that I guess was really low below 10,000 tons whatever you want to tell us. So, you got them to do that.

What did you give them in return for them paying a higher price right now? Did you commit to some volume next year at a certain price? Did you commit to some volume maybe not at a price, but guaranteed volume over a few years? What did you -- what did they get? What do the customers get for paying more now?.

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Well, first of all, I would like to comment that this content that you're asking for represent a small portion of our business as you saw in our release. Most of our contracts today are following market prices.

But okay as you can imagine, we are seeing a tight market situation in the coming months and there are some risks if you look at the long-term. So volume is probably the most important asset for any customer today. I mean our customers need volume to grow.

So, the way we can have a good understanding and a good win-win solution with these customers is by offering more volume. This is the best way we have been able to renegotiate this contract. .

Joel Jackson

Okay, that's helpful. And my next question would be this. So, it would seem that lithium demand can't be any tighter than it is right now. You have OEMs now running around making deals with lithium companies. Some are non-binding MOUs as you know. Some are -- look more legit and have some upfront payments.

So, can you talk about a couple of things the leverage that you now have with OEMs and customers that maybe you never had before? And then is there going to be enough lithium in the short-term to satisfy demand therefore EV forecast over the short term need to go down?.

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Well, I think that my first comment would be that SQM has been successfully increasing production capacity. We are reaching 180,000 metric tons per year capacity now in this moment and we are going to start our next stage of expansion to reach 210,000 next year.

In terms of the lithium hydroxide, we are also reaching 21,000 metric ton capacity in Chile and we're also going to start the next stage. And I start commenting this because SQM has been one of the few players in the market that have been able to deliver more lithium.

And this is, of course, something that all the customers’ big and medium and small customers are valuing from us. So our value proposition today is volume, okay? And this is the way we are discussing with our customers, because we can commit to volume and receive that we can deliver..

Joel Jackson

Thank you..

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

The next question will come from Guilherme Palhares with Bank of America. Please go ahead..

Guilherme Palhares

Hello, everyone. Thank you for taking my question. Just one quick question on SPM. You said on the press release that you expect volumes to fall by 10% this year, right? So -- but at the same time we see volumes going down more than that in the first half of the year. So if you could explore a bit what is the outlook for the second half.

And are you expecting some pickup in terms of volumes, or do you expect a change in terms of the market share that the company has in that division? Thank you..

Ricardo Ramos Chief Executive Officer

Okay. Thank you. Let me try to give you a global view of the fertilizer that we see today. As you may know the whole industry has been affected by the war in Ukraine.

On the one hand, we have the lack of gas in Europe significantly affect the local production of fertilizers, and of course the innovations on potash exports from Russia to mid-Russia and low Russia that have affected the market for us in worldwide.

Considering the it's very difficult, because we have very unique situations to have a prediction of the churn of the industry in the medium term. In any case, if we go to the potash first as you know, we sell an important volume of potash even though we are very small in the market. In the last months we have observed a lower demand for potash.

It is likely that prices for the second semester will be lower than the prices of the second quarter of this year. That's what we expect. But in the case of the specialty fertilizer, Europe as you know is one of our main markets and current price environment have affected the demand growth.

That's the situation, the growth being affected by today's price environment. Again, it is very difficult to have a medium-term projection. However, we think that the situation with specialty fertilizers is different than potash and we believe that prices are likely to remain relatively constant during the second half of the year.

And volumes we think will be similar to those we've seen during the first half of the year..

Guilherme Palhares

That’s very clear. Thank you..

Operator

The next question will come from César Pérez-Novoa with BTG Pactual. Go ahead..

César Pérez-Novoa

Yes. Good afternoon, everyone, and again congratulations for your results.

Just a basic question here on your ongoing capital investments, when will the 180,000 metric ton lithium carbonate capacity be completed? And what specific milestones do you require for final tie-in? And would this maybe perhaps restrain some production into the third quarter? And then on the incremental 30,000 metric tons that you're expecting to deliver has there been any alteration to the $250 million cost associated with this expansion and perhaps provide a time line for final completion? That would be my question.

Thank you..

Ricardro Ramos

So, first is about the lithium milestone for the 180,000 that continues increasing production capacity every month, because it's that we are improving the production in every step of the process. That's why there's no key one milestone that we are expecting in order to be in the 180,000.

I do expect that, there will be a continuous production close to the 180,000 metric tons probably September onwards. Keep in mind that, some months we reach the 180,000 metric tons capacity. Some months that will little bit lower, because we're in the fine-tuning in order to give the 180,000.

That's why my best guess is that we will be close to the 180,000 as the total capacity September – second half of September onward. About the 210,000 metric tons, I think in the CapEx from you have we already included the investment in order to reach the 210,000 – that the one that we announced we've been producing in first half next year.

Anyway, we are working in a new three-year CapEx program, and we are working as we speak. I expect next conference call to inform the market when it's going to be the CapEx for the next three years because the ones we have is 2021, 2022, 2023 on for 2024. And we will have this new update probably after the results of September results.

But again, it's – we will be in the same way trying to increase capacity probably increasing the quality, increasing the capacity in the macro side. We have a lot of initiatives we expect to announce in the next CapEx program.

We are in the final step in order to have a final agreement in order to move forward in Australia, in order to move from 50,000 to 100,000 metric tons. I expect we will publicly announce together with Wesfarmers, this increase during this year anyway..

César Pérez-Novoa

All right. Thank you very much, Ricardo for sharing that information. Thank you..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. I would like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Kelly O'Brien for any closing remarks. Please go ahead..

Kelly O’Brien

Thank you everyone for joining. Before we close, I wanted to remind you that, we will hold an Investor Day on September 15. So, please visit our website, or contact us for more detail. Have a good day..

Operator

The conference has now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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