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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q2
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Executives

Chris Coleman – Chief Financial Officer Rob Bredahl – President and Chief Executive Officer Daniel Loeb – Chief Executive Officer-Third Point LLC.

Analysts

Kai Pan – Morgan Stanley Meyer Shields – KBW Jay Cohen – Bank of America Merrill Lynch.

Operator

Greetings, and welcome to the Third Point Reinsurance Second Quarter 2018 Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to turn the call over to Chris Coleman, CFO. Please go ahead..

Chris Coleman

Thank you, operator. Welcome to the Third Point Reinsurance Limited earnings call for the second quarter of 2018. Last night, we issued an earnings press release and financial supplement, which is available on our website, www.thirdpointre.bm. Leading today’s call will be Rob Bredahl, President and CEO.

But before we begin, I would like to remind you that many of the remarks today will contain forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties.

Please refer to the second quarter 2018 earnings press release and the company’s other public filings, including the Risk Factors in the company’s 10-K, where you will find factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made and the company assumes no obligation to update or revise them in light of new information, future events or otherwise.

In addition, management will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, which management believes allow for a more complete understanding of the company’s financial results. A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measure is presented in the company’s earnings press release. At this time, I will turn the call over to Rob Bredahl.

Rob?.

Rob Bredahl

Thank you, Chris. Before we discuss the operating results for the quarter, I want to explain the impact of the investment account restructuring that we announced last night. As we mentioned on our previous earnings call, we have been working to restructure our investment account from a separately managed account structure to a fund structure.

The new limited partnership agreement and related agreements that were attached as part of our 8-K filing last night accomplished this. We’ll begin transitioning our assets to new fund structure on August 31 and we expect that by September 30, we’ll be reporting our balance sheet under this new structure.

Although this represents a significant structural change, we’ll manage the company into a similar level of investment exposure with investment guidelines, liquidity provisions and redemption rights remaining broadly similar under the new fund structure.

Along with creating operational and financial reporting efficiencies, we believe that this balance sheet presentation results in a better reflection of how investors and other users of our financial statements already think about our investment portfolio.

As a result of this change and consistent with prior comments, we expect to exceed the 25% loss reserves to total assets threshold at year-end as defined in the recent tax definition of passive foreign investment company or PFIC with minimal impact to expected shareholder returns and operations. Now I’ll move on to our financial results.

During the quarter, we generated net income of $20 million for a return on beginning equity of 1.2%. Our combined ratio improved to 103.6% from 107.0% in the second quarter of 2017 and from 104.5% for the first quarter of 2018.

We are committed to driving our combined ratio lower by continuing to carefully manage expenses, pushing for improved pricing on renewals and carefully expanding our writings into higher-margin lines of business and forms of reinsurance.

The increased focus on higher-margin business includes increasing our ratings of specialty lines, writing lower layer excess covers in addition to quota share contracts, and writing some shorter-tail event-type covers.

In the past couple of months, we’ve added two very experienced senior underwriters with strong market relationships as well as the support staff to help with this effort. Our combined ratio was also benefiting from some modest improvement in market pricing.

Ceding commissions in several cases decreased at renewal and more than offset loss ratio trends. As I mentioned on our last earnings call, we believe the improvement is due in part to the heavy cat losses experienced by the industry in 2017.

Outsized cat profits and historically low cat activity years leading up to 2017 had been masking the rampant underpricing of non-cat lines of business. Given the expected improvement in our underwriting results and Third Point LLCs continued outperformance of their hedge fund peers, we believe that our shares are trading at an attractive level.

During the quarter, we repurchased approximately 2.7 million of our common shares in the open market for $37 million or $13.62 per share on average. And for the first half of the year, we repurchased approximately 4.3 million of our common shares for $60 million.

We continue to believe that buying back shares below book is an appropriate use of our capital.

As we’ve noted in the past, we plan to buy back shares during open windows when we trade at or below 95% of diluted book value per share subject, of course, to rating agency and regulatory capital requirements and currently, we have $140 million available under our existing share purchase plan.

I’ll now hand the call over to Daniel Loeb who will discuss our investment results..

Daniel Loeb

system; two, inflation has remained stable in the first half of the year with little sign of impending acceleration despite a record-low unemployment rate; three, the cycle can extend longer than many people think as companies are in good shape, particularly in the U.S. and the consumer is strong while carrying only modest debt levels.

And four, equities are not expensive at 16 times forward earnings. We believe the risk of recession in the next year remains low and without this concern weighing heavily on markets with the tailwinds we have described, we believe equity should go higher, but in a more moderate pace.

We remain actively engaged with many of our core equity positions and anticipate positive portfolio developments in the coming months. Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Chris to discuss our financial results..

Chris Coleman

Thanks, Daniel. Our diluted book value per share at the end of the second quarter was $15.63, which was an increase of $0.24 or 1.6% from March 31, 2018. Net investment income for the quarter was $31 million, which reflects the returns for the quarter, which Daniel discussed in detail.

Our gross premiums written for the second quarter was $50 million, which was a decrease of $107 million or 68% from the prior year’s second quarter. Gross written premium increased by $125 million or 41% to $428 million from $303 million for the first half of 2017.

The lower gross premiums in the second quarter primarily reflects retroactive reinsurance contracts that were written in last year’s second quarter compared to only a small amount in the current quarter. As we have stated many times, quarter-to-quarter comparisons of premiums can be difficult given timing of certain renewals and types of contracts.

We generated a $5 million net underwriting loss for the second quarter and our combined ratio was 103.6% compared to 107.0% in the prior year’s second quarter and 104.5% for the first quarter of 2018.

For the six-month period, we generated an $11 million net underwriting loss compared to an underwriting loss of $21 million in the prior-year period and our combined ratio was 104.0% compared to 106.6%.

For the quarter ended June 30, 2018, we recorded a net $2.4 million improvement in the net underwriting results related to changes in estimates of prior year’s loss reserves net of the related impact of acquisition costs.

As Rob mentioned earlier, we continue to see some improvement in terms and conditions on several contracts that renewed in the first half of the year. The improvement in our combined ratio also reflects a lower G&A expense ratio compared to the prior year’s period. We would expect that our combined ratio will continue to gradually improve.

Total general and administrative expenses for the second quarter of 2018 were $10 million, compared to $15 million for the prior-year period. For the six-month period, general and administrative expenses were $19 million compared to $26 million in the prior-year period.

The decrease was primarily due to lower payroll related costs and lower stock compensation expense. The lower payroll related costs were due to lower annual incentive plan compensation expense accruals, which is based on a formula derived from certain financial performance metrics.

Our accrual was lower this year compared to the prior year periods to reflect the lower performance of the company in the current year periods. The foreign exchange gains in the current period were primarily due to the revaluation of foreign currency loss and loss adjustment expense reserves, denominated in British pounds where the U.S.

dollar strengthened in the current year period compared to the prior-year period. As a reminder, we have minimal net exposure to foreign currency movements from our foreign currency reinsurance contracts as we typically have collateral accounts with a similar amount of foreign currency assets as the net reinsurance liabilities.

However, these offsetting foreign currency losses on the collateral flow through net investment income. Lastly, we are pleased to announce that we have closed a $200 million, one year unsecured letter of credit facility for the issuance of letters of credit to support our reinsurance business. The details were disclosed in our 8-K filing last night.

This facility will give us additional flexibility as part of our investment restructuring to provide collateral to our reinsurance business counter parties. We thank you for your time and we’ll now open the call for questions.

Operator?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Kai Pan with Morgan Stanley. Your line is now live..

Kai Pan

Thank you and good morning. I have a few question for Dan first and then a couple for Rob. First with Dan, the July result announced last night is flattish compared with S&P up more than 3%.

Could you describe with more detail about the performance in the months in both long side as well as short side?.

Daniel Loeb

Sure. So we had a big investment in NXP, which obviously was a disappointing – had a disappointing outcome and a bunch of the NASDAQ were underperformed and we had some exposure to NIMs there..

Kai Pan

Okay. You mentioned in your letter, like Facebook is one of the top winners in the second quarter, but we haven’t – sort of like the stock movements have been coming down. I just wonder what’s your view on the stock going forward from here..

Daniel Loeb

Yes, that was a very disappointing quarter and we exited the NIM..

Kai Pan

Okay. And also you mentioned like in term of investment, you are gradually shifting from value specialty situation into like a growth stock.

And I just wonder how would it change your investment process and also the investment mentality because it might be different for skill set or mentality investing value stock versus growth stocks?.

Daniel Loeb

Yes. So, look, I made the point in the letter. I wouldn’t describe this as a shift in our focus. Around 80% plus of our portfolio is still in non-tech names. And by the way, when we talk about growth, it isn’t just the super-high flyers. I mean, we have – we look at growth in financial companies, in industrial companies.

So I guess the point was that we’re really looking at the strength of the businesses and willing to pay up a little bit more than we might otherwise have using traditional value metrics..

Kai Pan

Okay, that’s great. And then last one for you is on the sort of tariff situation at trade war, you explained a bit in your letter.

I just wonder how do you position Third Point portfolio, are you going to reduce your international exposure?.

Daniel Loeb

Yes, I mean, that’s a really tough one to answer. I don’t think anyone knows the direction that this is going in which is – it’s safe to say that there’s not much higher degree of uncertainty. I mean, we follow this – we follow what’s going on day-to-day.

Obviously, we thought we had a good handle on what was going on with Qualcomm and NXP and we miscalculated there. I don’t think that was entirely a function of – I mean, it was probably a function of trade wars; it was also a function of the way we think the management teams handled the situation.

But whatever the reason is, we made a losing bet there..

Kai Pan

Okay, great. Thank you, Dan. I have a few more for Rob on the underwriting side. First one is at the quarterly – at the quarter, combined ratio was down like 340 basis points from the year-ago period. Mostly the reduction is coming from the G&A expense ratio. You explained a little bit.

I just wonder your second quarter, like $5 like million G&A expense is the run rate going forward?.

Rob Bredahl

Yes. I’ll let Chris take this..

Chris Coleman

Yes. It’s fairly simple answer, Kai. The movement in the G&A expense ratio, it was a function primarily of our bonus accruals, which is very formula driven and highly tied to our overall return on average equity, which was significantly lower to the first half of the year compared to last year.

And so in terms of a run rate going forward, other than movements in bonus accrual tied to kind of return average equity in the go-forward period through the remainder of the year, the overall G&A should be relatively constant..

Rob Bredahl

Yes. And I’ll add Kai that last year with very high investment returns, the G&A expense ratio worked against us because of the compensation accruals..

Kai Pan

Okay. And I would – you’re now shifting to some specialty lines and lower layers of excess laws, those will carry lower loss ratio assuming going forward, but you haven’t seen that benefits in your combined ratio, reported combined ratio yet..

Rob Bredahl

We’ve seen a little benefit. We’re incrementally shifting the portfolio towards those lines. And as you know, it takes a while for the premium written to earn in. So I think the improvement in our combined ratio is the G&A that we talked about. But also, we are seeing some improvement in surplus really quota share receiving commissions.

They’re coming down. We believe they’re coming down a little bit more than the adverse loss ratio trends..

Kai Pan

Do you still targeting underwriting break even or profitability in 2019?.

Rob Bredahl

We are..

Kai Pan

Okay. Last one, you made on the – it looks like in the quarter, there are some creep up interim expenses related to Florida assignment and benefits, and that sort of more than offset some of our reserve releases from other lines.

I just wonder could you explain a little bit on that issue, and because we have seen some upward revision on loss estimates from Irma losses..

Rob Bredahl

We had, I think two remaining Florida homeowner accounts. And one of them had some adverse development related to AOB. And AOB is sort of a basket covering, what are losses, one-way attorney fees and just in general, the bad legal system in Florida. And so that increase reflects us recognizing a bad trend on one contract..

Kai Pan

And do you think that will be sort of a still some potential rates there going forward?.

Rob Bredahl

No. We really just try to stay ahead of it. I mean there’s some potential, but we think we have properly reserved it and we don’t expect any further increases in the reserves..

Kai Pan

Okay, great. Thank you so much for the time..

Operator

The next question is coming from Meyer Shields from KBW. Your line is now live..

Meyer Shields

Two quick questions.

One, I guess Rob, you mentioned ceding commission improvements offsetting loss trends, I was hoping you could talk a little bit more about loss trends maybe what you’re seeing in property versus casualty versus specialty?.

Rob Bredahl

The trends are, I would say, stable to slightly worse in the general casualty lines. And ceding commissions are probably down about three points on average, and we think that really covers it. Specialty is across-the-board. I mean I can’t really talk about any particular trend in specialty.

And then what was the last?.

Daniel Loeb

Property..

Rob Bredahl

Yes, property. We talked about AOB. That’s really our big exposure there..

Chris Coleman

Yes, and then on that, the two main remaining accounts on property renewed in the fourth quarter of 2017, and you’ll probably recall, we talked a little bit about those there when there was pretty dramatic improvements in the commission structures that we felt, kind of, compensated for the adverse loss trends we were seeing on that particular line of business..

Rob Bredahl

Yes, and Meyer, the auto trends have been talked about quite a bit. And so we had a largest – larger nonstandard auto portfolio. We’ve come off most of that, but there is improvement in pricing across-the-board..

Meyer Shields

Okay, that’s very helpful. Thank you. Two quick ones.

One, it looks like retro spend picked up a little bit, and I was hoping you could talk about the protections for buying?.

Rob Bredahl

The – we bought – we quota shared a portion of our mortgage portfolio. And yes, I think it was in part risk management, but it’s more of a distribution partnership with another reinsurer, and so we also received some business back from them..

Meyer Shields

Okay. And then just finally, the tax rate. I know it’s difficult to predict.

Anything unusual in the second quarter? Or guidance for how we should think back half?.

Chris Coleman

No. I mean it is nothing unusual in the tax rate. What flows through the tax expense line in our income statement along with just the normal tax rate on the income of our U.S. operation is there’s also some withholding taxes related to certain activities within the investment account.

So given how small the effective tax rate is, if you have a little bit more or less withholding tax, which is primarily an investment-related type activity, it can throw off of the effective tax rate a little bit, but there’s really nothing unusual going on there and really no change in our outlook for the effective tax rate of the company going forward..

Meyer Shields

Okay, that’s it from me. Thank you so much..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question is coming from Jay Cohen from Bank of America Merrill Lynch. Your line is now live..

Jay Cohen

Thank you. Most of my questions have been answered. Just one other one that I had and that is, as far as new lines of business you’re targeting, you mentioned short-tail event covers.

Can you talk about what exactly that is? And how big that market is?.

Rob Bredahl

Well, one example is that we wrote some wildfire covers for utilities, which actually get labeled as liability business in our financial statement but certainly event-driven covers. The other example is write marine, we’ve written marine for some time. We might wrap that up. We’re looking at terrorism and workers comp cat and aviation.

We haven’t written any of it, but we’re keeping our eye on it..

Jay Cohen

Got it. That’s all for Rob. Thank you..

Operator

We’ve reached the end of our question-and-answer session. I’d like to turn the floor back over to management for any of further or closing comments..

Rob Bredahl

Thank everybody for joining us. If you have any follow-up questions, please give us a ring. We look forward to talking with you next. Thanks..

Operator

Thank you. That does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your line at this time and have a wonderful day. We thank you for participation today..

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