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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q3
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Executives

Chris Coleman - Chief Financial Officer Rob Bredahl - President and Chief Executive Officer Daniel Loeb - Chief Executive Officer-Third Point LLC.

Analysts

Kai Pan - Morgan Stanley Christopher Campbell - KBW.

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Third Point Reinsurance Third Quarter 2017 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to your host today, Mr. Chris Coleman, CFO. Please begin sir..

Chris Coleman

Thank you, operator. Welcome to the Third Point Reinsurance Limited earnings call for the third quarter of 2017. Last night, we issued an earnings press release and a financial supplement which is available on our website www.thirdpointre.bm. Leading today’s call will be Rob Bredahl, President and CEO.

But before we begin, I would like to remind you that many of the remarks today will contain forward-looking statements based on current expectations. Actual results may differ materially from those projected as a result of certain risks and uncertainties.

Please refer to the third quarter 2017 earnings press release and the company’s other public filings including the risks factors in the company’s 10-K where you will find factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from these forward-looking statements.

Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made and the company assumes no obligation to update or revise them in light of new information, future events or otherwise.

In addition, management will refer to certain non-GAAP measures, which management believes allow for a more complete understanding of the company’s financial results. A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measure is presented in the company’s earnings press release. At this time, I will turn the call over to Rob Bredahl.

Rob?.

Rob Bredahl

Thanks Chris. Good morning and thank you for taking the time to join our third quarter 2017 earnings call. In addition to Chris Coleman, Chief Financial Officer of Third Point Re with me today is Daniel Loeb, CEO of Third Point LLC our Investment Manager.

Here’s the plan for the call, I’ll provide a brief overview of our results and market conditions, Dan will discuss the performance of our investment portfolio, Chris will discuss our financial results in more detail. And then we’ll open up the call for your questions.

Before we get into the results discussion however, I’d like to make you aware of the changes to our board of directors. John Berger, currently Chairman and of course one of our founders and the original CEO of Third Point Re will be stepping down from the board at the end of the year.

On behalf of the company, I would like to thank John for all he has contributed to our success. Without John there would be not Third Point Re. And from a personal standpoint, I want to thank him for the opportunity to work for him and more learn from him. John is truly one of the all-time great reinsurance executives and even a better human being.

Steven Fass, who has previously served as a lead independent director will replace John as Interim Chairman and I will fill the board’s seat left vacant by John’s departure.

And now as for the quarter, third quarter of 2017 was an extremely active quarter for natural disasters, and will be remembered for the human tragedy that these catastrophe events caused. Our thoughts and prayers go out to everyone affected.

Including smaller cat events earlier in the year and the recent California log fires, many forecasters expect insured losses for the insurance industry to exceed $100 billion, which will be only the third time in history that industry losses exceeded this level.

As we’ve repeated many times we do not rate any property excess of loss treaties and therefore we had minimal exposure to these events. We booked only $5.3 million in net losses which added five points to our combined ratio.

This momentum exposure we had to these cat events was primarily from quota share contracts with oil companies, Lloyd’s entities and home owner insurers. The home owner quota share contracts we’ve laid all have renewing cat coverage while where we still assume a small amount of net cat exposure.

In some instances, we buy retro cap protection to further reduce our net exposure on home owner treaties. Our decision to avoid property cat proved to be a good one in this quarter. We generated $55 million of net income which brings our nine months profits upto $233 million.

This was our best nine month period since our interception almost six years ago. Earnings per diluted share were $0.52 in the third quarter and $2.22 for the first nine months of this year. Our diluted book value per share is now out $15.24. The good results were driven by strong investment returns delivered by our investment manager, Third Point LLC.

The investment return for the quarter was 3.6% and was 14.6% for the first nine months of the year. The strong results have continued since the end of the third quarter with a year to date return through October at 17.6%.

With a few periods with higher quarterly investment returns in 2012 and 2013, but this is before we generated a meaningful amount of float and therefore we had very little investment leverage. With an invested asset leverage ratio that is at 1.57 times, we can now take full advantage of strong investment results.

Our return on beginning equity for the quarter was 3.5% and 16.8% for the first nine months of the year. Now let’s talk about our underwriting results. Our combined ratio for the third quarter excluding cat losses was 106.9; this is similar to the combined ratio in last year’s third quarter which was 106.5%.

So the million dollar question is, how will reinsurance market react to the recent losses especially in the non-cat once the business in which we focus. We believe the deterioration of pricing and terms and conditions has ended, but the magnitude of any improvement is uncertain.

A few deals have been priced since the cat events; we were seeing an increase in inquiries for capital – structures. We are pushing for improved pricing, and terms and conditions on all deals and plan to remain very patient. Historically it has taken up to two years for pricing to peak after big events.

Before I conclude, I’ll provide you with an update on our share buyback program. As we have been advised, we intend to buy back shares whenever our share price is 90% of diluted book value or lower. During the third quarter our shares traded well above 90% of book value and therefore we do not buy back any shares.

As of September 30, we had 51.7 million of remaining capacity on our authorised buyback program which we plan to use if our share price drops below 90% book. I will now hand the call over to Daniel Loeb who will discuss our investment performance in more detail..

Daniel Loeb

Thanks Rob, and good morning. The Third Point Reinsurance investment portfolio managed by Third Point LLC returned 3.6% in the third quarter of 2017, net of fees and expenses versus returns for the S&P and CS event-driven indices of 4.5% and 0.9% respectively for the quarter. The account has returned 14.6% year-to-date net of fees and expenses.

The Third Point Reinsurance account represents approximately 15% of assets managed by Third Point LLC. De-regulation combined with a weaker U.S. dollar and slower than expected pace of Fed rate hikes in 2016 has fueled growth domestically this year.

More importantly, synchronized global growth has created favorable equity market conditions in both developed and EM economies. With this economic backdrop, we continued to see the best opportunities in equities in the third quarter; while we remain concentrated in the U.S.

we’ve established meaningful investments in Europe this year and are finding more opportunities in emerging markets and in Japan. In Q3, Third Point’s equity portfolio returned 5.2% on average exposure.

Year-to-date returns of 24.3% handily outpaced the performance of the S&P 500, and are 4 to 5 times the returns of the Credit Suisse and HFRI event driven indices for the same period. For the quarter, industrials and TMT were the best performing sectors.

We continue to focus on constructive engagement with large portfolio companies, constructive equity investments currently represent approximately 40% of their points assets under management. A key aspect of the Third Point investment strategy is the ability to move across the capital structure opportunistically.

In credit, we maintain discipline across allocations while we wait patiently for the next credit cycle. Currently, exposure to credit, credit strategies is approximately 15%. In the third quarter, corporate credit including both distressed and performing investment return 1.8% on average exposure.

ABS and Sovereign credit return 3.8% and 12.5% respectively on average exposure for the quarter.

We believe we are well-positioned with an equity weighted portfolio balanced across sectors and geographies in both long and short exposure We anticipate continued, positive economic trends with strong Global GDP growth combined with possible tax reform creating a favorable backdrop for earnings growth in the near-term.

Nevertheless, we are monitoring possible warning signs of recession and will adjust our portfolio as needed. Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Chris to discuss our financial results..

Chris Coleman

Thanks, Daniel. For the three months ended September 30, 2017 diluted book value per share increased by $0.50 per share or 3.4% to $15.24 per share. For the nine months ended September 30, 2017 diluted book value per share increased by $2.08 per share or 15.8%.

Gross written premium increased by $32 million or 22% to $175 million from $143 million in the prior year’s quarter. Gross written premiums decreased by $59 million or 11% to $477 million from $537 million in the prior year’s nine months.

The increase for the three months ended September 30, 2017, compared to the prior year period was primarily due to new contracts partially offset by timing differences.

The decrease for the nine months ended September 30, 2017 compared to the prior year period was primarily due to contracts that we did not renew as a result of underlying terms and conditions, lower premium adjustments in the current year period and other timing differences partially offset by new premium.

The decrease in net premiums earned in the three months ended September 30, 2017 compared to the prior year quarter was primarily due to a lower inforce under writing portfolio.

The increase in net premiums earned for the nine months ended September 30, 2017 was primarily due to $86 million of new retroactive reinsurance contracts written in the second quarter which were fully earned when we are partially offset by a lower inforce underwriting portfolio.

We did not write any retroactive reinsurance contracts in the prior year periods. We generated a $12.6 million net underwriting loss for the three months ended September 30, 2017 compared to an underwriting loss of $8.3 million in the prior year and our combined ratio was 111.9% compared to 106.5%.

For the nine months periods we generated a 33.3 million net underwriting loss compared to in underwriting lots of 40.5 million in the prior year period and our combined ratio was 108% compared to 110.2%. The net underwriting loss for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2017 included 5.3 million related to the third quarter catastrophes.

This accounted for five percentage points on our quarterly combined ratio. The net underwriting loss and combined ratio for the three and nine months ended September 30, 2017 included an insignificant net impact for prior year reserve development.

The impact of the prior year quarterly period was also insignificant while the prior year’s nine month period included 12.5 million related to the net impact of adverse reserve development. For the three months ended September 30, 2017 we recognize net investment income of $89 million compared to $88 million for the prior year.

For the nine months ended September 30, 2017 we recognized net investment income of $325 million compared to $135 million for the prior year period. The changes in net investment income was primarily driven by the returns in the respective periods that Daniel discussed in detail, but also were impacted by higher net investment in the 2017 periods.

General and administrative expenses for the third quarter of 2017 were $13 million compared to $12 million for the prior year. General and administrative expenses in the first nine months of 2017 were $39 million compared to $34 million for the prior year period.

The increase was primarily due to an increase in our annual incentive plan compensation accruals partially offset by stock compensation expense in the current year period and separation cost in the prior year period.

Our annual incentive plan is based on the company's return on average equity and we increased our accruals to reflect the performance of the company year-to-date.

The increase in income tax expense for the nine months ended September 30, 2017 compared to the nine months ended September 30, 2016 was primarily due to higher taxable income generated by our U.S. subsidiaries.

The change in foreign exchange gains and loss were primarily due to the revaluation of foreign currency loss and loss adjustment expense reserves denominated in British pounds where the U.S. dollar weakened in the current year period compared to prior year period for the U.S. dollar strengthened.

As a reminder, we have minimal net exposure to foreign currency movements from our foreign currency reinsurance contracts as we typically have collateral accounts with a similar amount of foreign currency assets at the net reinsurance liabilities. However these offsetting FX gains and losses flow through net investment income.

I will now hand the call back over to Rob..

Rob Bredahl

Thank you, Chris. Our strong results for 2017 continued through the third quarter as we produce the best nine months results since our inception. We believe reinsurance market conditions and non-cat lines of business have stopped deteriorating, but the magnitude of any improvement is uncertain.

We focus primarily on capital relief reinsurance structures, such as quota share contracts and reserve covers inevitably we are well-positioned given the significant losses suffered by the insurance industry. We’re seeing the increase in the number of inquiries that remains to be seen if pricing will improve.

Even when market improvement is tepid, our earnings potential will remain strong due to our total return business model. We’ve done a good job of generating stable long-term flow, our float has grown to 731 million and will go further in coming quarters and our invested asset leverage is slightly above 1.5 times and within our target range.

We thank you for your time, and now open the call for questions.

Operator?.

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Kai Pan with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question..

Kai Pan

Thank you and good morning. First, congratulations to John to his full retirement this time. And I have a few questions for Dan Loeb first. First one is on the tax reform.

So what do you think the proposed [Indiscernible] and what’s potential impact on the market?.

Daniel Loeb

Hey, Kai. Look, I don’t think anyone can predict this, so I’m just not going to comment on tax reform right now. I mean its influx.

Obviously the corporate tax reforms are being discussed are favorable but I don’t have any special crystal ball that you don’t have about what's going on in Congress right now?.

Kai Pan

Okay. That’s fair. Then on your gross exposure, long-short equity funds have increased quite a bit from about 70% at the beginning of the year, now its 120%.

Are you feel more confidence about the market or you saw the opportunity presented here?.

Chris Coleman

I mean, I think that includes that isn’t just – that’s not just equity exposure. But look we like our positions. We’re very confident in them and we are actually firing on all cylinders.

We’re making money on our long and our short, so our net hasn't – I don’t think our nets moved that much, but we have taken up some gross exposure, there’s a reflection part of in the quality of the shorts that we’re finding and the success we’re having there..

Kai Pan

Okay, great. Then in your letter you mentioned that mapping out to the course of the year end you see more of the same condition.

So in your mind what could be the surprises, either to the positive or negative side to this market?.

Chris Coleman

Sorry, what’s – I didn’t [Indiscernible]..

Kai Pan

Yes. I’m sorry. Is that you mentioned in your letter that you see more of the same condition, basically stable condition in the marketplace.

What could be surprises in your mind, either positive surprise or negative surprise to the market?.

Chris Coleman

Well, if I said something that wouldn't be a surprise. But there’s certainly risk to the market, obviously tax reform not going through would be a negative, any signs of the economy slowing down.

And I think beyond just market moves I think we have to be more cognizant of is disruption across different industries whether it's retail and related --and consumer stable companies are being disrupted by technology or what’s going on in energy or other things that are being disrupted.

There’s a lot more dispersion going on under the surface then relatively friendly high-level market index moves would suggest..

Kai Pan

Okay. Last one and maybe for Dan, is that you have been hiring sort of data science in the macro teams.

And so how – could you discuss little bit more how exactly that help your investment process?.

Daniel Loeb

Yes. So look, I think hedge funds are no different than any other business. We need to continually think about how we improve our processes part of that involves expanding our use of technology, staying relevant and cutting-edge in the technological tools that we use. So, we've been building out our data science team.

We've been looking at additional data sets.

We've been infusing our process with different types of technology, and so far it's been very helpful, not just I’m looking at individual industries and companies but also helping us think about the economy and markets more broadly particularly when you combine our data effort with our new stand-alone macro strategy that we have going on in-house.

On the macro strategy front, I just want to point out. This is also again just enhanced our positioning and our both long-short terms and in terms of concentrations and geography, we’re not were not going to emphasize macro trades as an expression of that..

Kai Pan

Well, thank you, Dan. Switching to the underwriting site for Rob and Chris, I have two questions there. One is on the pricing front it looks like the pricing outlook getting better.

Would that change your outlook on the combined ratio going forward, because you have been talking about 107, like a 105-ish for the next few years, but would that getting better..

Rob Bredahl

Kai, recent events is more optimistic. We do expect the combined ratio to come down. I think we’ve priced two deals since the events and terms, conditions and pricing we’re better. On one deal, actually we were surprised that how much lowered the ceding commission turned out to be. And so we’re hopeful, but that's two data points.

We don't expect any dramatic improvement, but a slow grind better through 2018 I think we see..

Kai Pan

Okay. Last one, on the new basic rule in the proposed house deal.

How do you sort of like – how do you stand against that test?.

Rob Bredahl

So, we think we’re a reinsurance company using any reasonable set of metrics. There's some language out there that we don't think is all that reasonable. There’s a PFIC test and the some of the draft legislation where a company would be deemed to PFIC if their total reserves to assets was falls below 25%.

But the definition of reserves in that language excludes UPR, which we don’t think it’s reasonable. And so if you include UPR and include total reserves the number comes out to be about 30%, Chris..

Chris Coleman

It’s right..

Rob Bredahl

And so then we would fall under if the current draft legislation, current language is used. We have number of contingency plans and regardless where it ends up, we’ll be okay..

Kai Pan

Great. Well, thank you so much for all the answers..

Operator

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Christopher Campbell at KBW. Please proceed with your questions..

Christopher Campbell

Hi, good morning..

Rob Bredahl

Hey, Chris..

Christopher Campbell

So just going on Kai's question on tax reform, just going a little bit deeper. I know one of the proposals that's out there is about higher excise tax coming from U.S.-based businesses.

How are you thinking about the impact for potential…?.

Rob Bredahl

Yes. I should stress that this bill is moving very very messy legislative process. And so the actual wording of the bill and also the interpretation of the bill is all over the place. But our current understanding of the excise tax is that it applies to payments made to foreign affiliates of U.S.

tax paying entities, but its subject to a hurdle, subject to an annual total cash payment which is averaged over three years, and so right project to be well under that hurdle now..

Christopher Campbell

Okay, great. Would that present if it did go through, if the law did go through with something like that, would that alter your U.S.

growth plans?.

Rob Bredahl

No. We are based on current projections for the next five years that's about as far out as we project will be under that hurdle amount..

Christopher Campbell

Okay. Great.

Now just -- did Third Point write any retro this quarter? And then how are you -- you had mentioned a little bit about demand for capital relief covers kind of increasing, how would you categorize that market?.

Rob Bredahl

When you retro, you mean retro cat?.

Christopher Campbell

I think you know retro active reinsurance, yes, really capital related deals?.

Rob Bredahl

Yes. So the answer in terms of whether we wrote any in the quarter? Is no. We did not have retroactive reinsurance contracts written this quarter.

There is couple of large ones written in the second quarter?.

Christopher Campbell

Okay.

And then how would you categorize on your court [ph] submissions on – what kind of power you’re seeing through your [Indiscernible]?.

Rob Bredahl

Demand for surplus relief, we see inquiries are up substantially this quarter – substantially in last few weeks. And so both in the form of quota share contracts and reserve covers, I think more of the reserve cover inquiries are coming out of Lloyd’s and that's because reserve covers or their impact on capital is well known.

You put the reserve cover into the Lloyd's model and it spits out capital benefit that the seniors can count on. Its a little tougher in the U.S. because the rating agencies treatment is not as prescribed as it is at Lloyd's..

Christopher Campbell

Okay, great. So just moving on the costs side, your acquisition costs were down about $11 million just on the absolute dollar basis for the quarter year-over-year, but the net written premium growth was up significantly.

So, how should we just be thinking about the relationship between those two?.

Rob Bredahl

Sure. I mean, I think as we’ve said previously we tend to focus more on trends in the total composite ratio in total underwriting income rather than component parts of the composite ratio. I think as we’ve talked in the past many of our contracts have very different component parts.

And therefore individual contracts and how they are earning in any given quarter can change the mix. The other thing to as many of our contracts have commission structures where loss development is offset by acquisition cost movements.

So looking at that the current quarter there’s really nothing unusual flowing through this quarter other than just a higher proportion of earnings on contracts with lower acquisition costs.

And then, if you're looking at just the absolute dollar reduction this quarter compared to last quarter is just a lower amount of earned premium coming through this quarter and so that's really what's driving the dollar reduction this period..

Christopher Campbell

And then just one final one, were there any non-recurring expense impact that you had this quarter from again Harvey or Irma and Maria that you don't expect to continue going forward?.

Rob Bredahl

There is the 5.3 million of losses that relate to those cat events. So that 5.3 million we expect to be non-recurring..

Chris Coleman

Yes. That’s all flowing just through the losses..

Rob Bredahl

No, that include expenses..

Christopher Campbell

Okay.

So there is no higher like adjustment expenses that you guys have to incur?.

Chris Coleman

No. That 5.2 million net cat loss that we refer to is really are flowing through the loss expense line..

Christopher Campbell

Okay, great. Very helpful. Thanks for all the answers..

Operator

Thank you. At this time, I will like to turn the call over to Mr. Bredahl for concluding remarks..

Rob Bredahl

Thanks everyone for joining us for the earnings call. We look forward to talking to you next quarter. In the meantime, if you have any questions, please give us a call. Bye, bye..

Operator

Thank you. This does conclude today’s teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time and thank you for your participation..

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