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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q1
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Executives

Rob Bredahl - President and COO John Berger - Chairman and CEO Daniel Loeb - CEO, Third Point LLC Chris Coleman - CFO.

Analysts

Kai Pan - Morgan Stanley Michael West - JPMorgan.

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Third Point Reinsurance Limited First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. A brief question-and-answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Chris Coleman, Chief Financial Officer. Thank you. You may begin.

Chris Coleman

Thank you operator. Welcome to Third Point Reinsurance Limited's earnings call for the first quarter of 2015. Last night we issued an earnings press release and financial supplement which is available on our website www.thirdpointre.bm.

A replay of today's conference call will be available until May 15th, 2015 by dialing the phone numbers provided in the earnings press release and through our website following this call. Leading today's call will be John Berger, Chairman and CEO of Third Point Re.

But before we begin, please note that management believes certain statements in this teleconference might constitute forward-looking statements under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

Forward-looking statements include statements about expectations estimates and assumptions concerning future events and financial performance of the company and are subject to significant uncertainties and risks that could cause current plans, anticipated actions, and the company's future financial condition and results to differ materially from expectations.

Those uncertainties and risks include those disclosed in the company's filings with the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission. Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date they are made and the company assumes no obligation to update or revise them in light of new information, future events or otherwise.

In addition management will refer to certain non-GAAP measures which management believes allow for a more complete understanding of the company's financial results. A reconciliation of these measures to the most comparable GAAP measures is presented in the company's earnings press release. At this time, I'll turn the call over to John Berger..

John Berge

Thank you, Chris. I'm pleased with our performance in the first quarter, which I believe highlights the power of our total return business model.

As a reminder, we make money three ways; first, we invest our capital soon exclusive arrangement of Third Point LLC, an investment manager with a 20-year track record of generating more than 20% per annum net returns. The second way in which we aim to generate profits is to underwriting reinsurance business.

We expect to generate an underwriting profit over time, despite not writing the highest margin, but riskiest line of business property catastrophe. In today's soft reinsurance market, we expect to generate a combined ratio of around 100%. Still our Reinsurance segment is already profitable which brings me to the third way we make money.

Our Reinsurance business generates float which like our capital, is invested through Third Point LLC. In the first quarter, we generated $161.6 million in float, which increased our total float to $569 million at March 31, 2015.

In the first quarter we produced net income of $50.5 million, an increase of 26.9% from $39.8 million in last year's first quarter. Generated a return on beginning shareholders equity of 3.5% and grew diluted book value per share by 3.1%.

Third Point LLC generated investment returns of 3% on over half in the quarter which is strong relative to the broader induces. For example, the S&P total return index was up only 1%. Daniel Loeb will discuss our investment returns in greater detail in just a couple of minutes.

In the first quarter of 2015 our gross written premiums in our PC segment was $213 million or 160% increase from the first quarter of 2014. While our premium growth will be volatile quarter-to-quarter given that we focus on fewer larger deals, we're very pleased with deal flow we are seeing especially given challenging market conditions.

Our team has very good long-standing relationships with brokers and cedents. We have experienced underwriters who are talented at tailoring solutions, and we respond quickly to underwriting requests and otherwise provide good service.

In addition, we're finding that the fact that we're a pure play reinsurance company meaning we don’t have a primary insurance operation, is creating to be a real advantage especially given the recent M&A activity which is further reduced to a number of pure play reinsurers.

We have completed several large deals with larger insurers and reinsurers who had unique problems that they wanted to help managing. These companies specifically targeted us as a potential partner because we do not have an insurance business with which they compete. I will conclude with some comments on market conditions.

The segment of the market that is under the greatest pressure is property catastrophe. Pricing in the property cat market has decreased by double-digits in each of the past three years and is now about half of where it was three years ago.

This is a very significant issue for traditional reinsurance companies because property cat has been their biggest or one of their biggest contributors to profitability.

We do not write any excess of loss property cat and therefore not directly exposed, but we do face some pricing pressure from traditional reinsurers that have been displaced in the cat market and are more aggressively pursuing the lines of business that we target.

Still, for the reason I just laid out, we're seeing a significant flow of business that meets our pricing thresholds and our confident that we will continue to profitably manage through today's soft market. I will now hand the call over to Rob Bredahl, who will discuss recent regulatory developments..

Rob Bredahl

Thank you, John on April 23 the Treasury Department issued proposed regulations to address the status of insurers and reinsurers as passive foreign investment companies from P6. These proposed regulations will result a various interactions between the treasury, the IRS and the U.S. Senate, the course of 2014.

Since a key component of our total return business model is to invest our capital with Third Point LLC, we have filed the development of these proposed regulations with great interest. As we have stated consistently in the past, we believe that it is clear that Third Point Re is an active reinsurance company.

Our gross written premium was over $600 million in 2014 only our third year of operation. At the end of this quarter, our float balance which supports our estimated reinsurance liabilities grew to approximately 40% of our capital base.

We recently established a new reinsurance subsidiary with an office in New Jersey which will itself be subject to U.S. federal income tax.

Our underwriting portfolios produce favorable results consistent with our expectations; certain transactions have been unprofitable and demonstrate the insurance risk that we assume in a regular course of our business operations. We have two observations on the proposed regulations.

First, the Treasury Department has post to include employees of related entities from the termination of whether a corporation engaged in the active conduct of an insurance business. We do not believe that this proposal impacts our business model since our approach is always been to employ our own staff for all core reinsurance functions.

Our approach has allowed us to develop in-house expertise and relationships that are a key source of differentiation for us in reinsurance market. Second, the Treasury Department has not yet proposed any bright-line test for determining passive assets. Instead Treasury has asked for comments prior to the issuance of final regulations.

We believe that our company is similar to many others industry participants in terms of premiums to investment income and reserve capital. This is largely due to our success in building a substantial reinsurance business over the past three years in the challenging reinsurance market.

Nevertheless, we will not be able to determine implications of any such test until the regulations are finalized. I will now hand the call over to Daniel Loeb who will discuss the performance of our investment portfolio..

Daniel Loeb

Thanks Rob and good morning everyone. The Third Point Reinsurance investment portfolio managed by Third Point returned 3% in the first quarter of 2015 net of fees and expenses versus returns for the S&P and CS-event driven indices of 1% and 1% respectively for the quarter.

The Third Point Reinsurance account represents approximately 12% of assets managed by Third Point LLC. Losses in January were more than offset by strong returns in both February and March with gains in equities and structured credit accounting for the majority of profits.

Third Point's equity portfolio returned 3.7% on average exposure during the first quarter, outperforming the S&P meaningfully with approximately half the exposure at risk. Performance was anchored by strength in several core positions in the industrials and commodities and healthcare sectors.

Our top equity contributors for the quarter were Activist Plc, FANUC Corp. and Dow Chemical Company. We're excited about potential investment opportunities in Japan and that was company's and government officials on our visit a few weeks ago.

Our corporate and sovereign credit book was up 5.8% on average exposure in Q1 versus 2.3% performance from the iBoxx high yield index during the same period.

Both our performing and distressed credit portfolios are down slightly for the year, however, our sovereign credit portfolio has continue to add meaningfully to returns and was up 9.8% on average exposure during the quarter, led by our sizable position in Argentine government debt.

Third Point's structured credit strategy contributed significantly to profits during the first quarter. The portfolio added 1.8% to Q1 returns, driven by strong demand with U.S. based mortgage-backed securities. Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Chris to discuss our financial results..

Chris Coleman

Thanks, Daniel. As John mentioned, we generated $50.5 million of net income in the first quarter, which translates into earnings per diluted share of $0.47. This compares to net income of $39.8 million and earnings per diluted share of $0.37 for the prior-year period.

Diluted book value per share as of March 31, 2015 was $13.97, an increase of $0.42 per share were 3.1% from December 31, 2014. In our Property and Casualty reinsurance segment, gross premiums written increased $131 million or approximately 160% to $213 million for the three months ended March 31, 2015.

This compares to $82 million for the prior year period. The increase in gross premiums for the quarter included $124 million from two multi-line deals with Lloyds Syndicates. These are renewals of contracts that were first written in Q4 2014.

They had effective dates of January 1, 2014 but took most of 2014 to negotiate and close and therefore was not comparable premium in last year’s first quarter. Also contributing to the increase in gross premium was $26 million of new business and $40 million from increased premium on renewal contracts.

These increases were partially offset by $47 million of business written in the first quarter of 2014 that did not renew in the current year quarter and $20 million from contracts that were canceled and rewritten. Our new U.S. operating platform began operations late in the first quarter and contributed $10 million of new business.

Our U.S.-based underwriters are off to a good start have a strong pipeline of new business and will be significant contributors to new business productions in future quarters.

Net premiums earned in the Property and Casualty reinsurance segment during the first quarter of 2015 increased $67 million or 92% to $139 million reflecting a larger in force underwriting portfolio compared to the three months ended March 31, 2014.

G&A expenses in the property and casualty segment was $6.6 million for the current quarter or 800,000 higher than the first quarter of 2014. Most of this increase in our G&A run rate was due to expenses related to the formation of our U.S. underwriting platform.

Still our general and administrative expense ratio decreased to 4.7% in the first quarter of 2015 compared to 8% in the same period of the previous year and our combined ratio improved to 102.8% from 107.1%, primarily due to significant increase in earned premium.

During the current quarter we recognize a decrease in underwriting income of approximately $1 million due to loss reserve development. Corporate expenses were general and administrative expenses not allocated to underwriting activities were $4.9 million for the first quarter of 2015 compared to $3.4 million for the first quarter of 2014.

The increase was due mostly to cost related to the formation of Third Point Re USA our new U.S. focused reinsurance company. Total G&A expenses therefore were $11.7 million in the first quarter of 2015 versus $10 million in the first quarter of 2014. There are three other expense categories that I want to highlight.

Other expenses were $2.7 million in the quarter versus $787,000 in last year's first quarter. Other expenses relate to interest crediting features and deposit and reinsurance contract. We issued debt during the quarter to help capitalize our U.S. operations. It was $115 million of tenure debt at a 7% coupon.

As a result, we recognize interest expense of 1 million for the quarter. And finally the new reinsurance, we formed in the quarter, which markets and underwriters reinsurance out of an office in New Jersey will be a U.S. taxpayer. Total income tax expense for the quarter was $1.3 million.

As we announced in December, our cat fund is not accepting new business and is in runoff. There was an insignificant impact on our overall results for the quarter from this segment. Net assets under management for the cat fund were approximately $77 million as of March 31, 2015.

As Daniel mentioned, the return on investments managed by third point LLC was 3% during the first quarter of 2015 compared to 3.1% for the same period in 2014. I'll now hand the call back over to John Berger.

John Berger

Thank you, Chris. To conclude I'm pleased by our performance this quarter. Premium growth was solid despite a challenging reinsurance market and our investment returns outpaced the broader hedge fund industry leading to strong book value growth of 3.1% in the first quarter.

Our UK marketing office, which is only been open for one year is performing very well and I'm optimistic for the prospect of our U.S. marketing office, which has just begun operations. Our deal flow remains healthy and our pipeline continues to build point to further good results over the balance of 2015. I will now open the call up to questions.

Operator?.

Operator

Thank you [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Kai Pan with Morgan Stanley. Please proceed with your question..

Kai Pan

Thank you. So first few questions for Dan. First one for you Dan is your credit portfolio actually contributed like about half of the first-quarter against.

So even the shop rise in some of the like bond yield recently has any impact on that portfolio and how do you like manage the risk more likely and more volatile on bond market?.

Daniel Loeb

Yeah. So most of that depreciation was from structured credit and Argentine credit. So these are not securities that are really subjected to or haven’t been subjected to movements in the credit market, so we haven't had any negative reaction as a result of that.

Kai Pan

Okay.

And then follow-up on that, in your letter you said most likely the fad property will first raise the rates for the first time in a while probably in October so how do you think the market will react to that and how do you position your portfolio?.

Daniel Loeb

This is the thing everything is focused and looking at it and ready for. Rates will go up if the economy is growing and we think that equities are going to trade on prospect of earnings appreciation. So, we're concerned about rate hike..

Kai Pan

Okay. Lastly on your short portfolio, looks like in April your results that the market is actually up modestly 1%, here the short portfolio actually contributed negatively over 60 basis points, already the short -- like a smaller exposure about 20%.

So, could you talk a little bit more about your short portfolio and in terms of hedging the long risk or like pursuing sort of absolute return on the short side as well?.

Daniel Loeb

In the old days, we used to help to make money on the long book and the short book. I think that's very difficult to do. Obviously, there will be months here and there where we get lucky and we do manage to do that. Two things happened in April.

First of all -- and you asked about our philosophy on this, some funds just leave -- maintain static short positions and leave it alone. We very actively trade our short book whether it's indices for options that we have on a declining market.

So, the appreciation that you see there on the short side is a combination of single name shorts that were idiosyncratic names that paid off for us. And taking advantage of market moves and trading our short book.

And taking advantage mostly of trading vault and taking advantage of opportunities that we see in the premium, I guess some of the options that we have on the short side..

Kai Pan

Okay, that's great. Then switch to John, Rob, and Chris just on premium side looks like you had two big deals in the quarter. First question on that is there was kind of sustainability of this large deals coming going forward.

And then follow-on is that what's the impact on your composite ratio, basically your loss ratio and acquisition ratio from these larger deals..

John Berger

Yeah, the larger deals are potentially sustainable. They are not one-time deals. They will come up for renewal next year and we're hopeful with relationship and the fundamentals of those deals that will continue on them. We'll see as we go through the negotiations.

Two of the larger deals were adverse development coverage that we basically write at a 100% composite. So that that will drive the composite up. The other large one has a composite combined ratio of below 100..

Kai Pan

Okay. Then if you look back you have like expectation to basically breakeven or probably slightly profitable in underwriting for 2015. If you look at your composite ratio for this quarter, its improved year-over-year, but still you need a lot of improvement in order to get to the breakeven point.

So, at this point, do you think you still going to shooting for breakeven in underwriting for 2015 or that's given the nature of the business writing right now that basically is less likely..

John Berger

Yeah, it remains our goal. We're really not that far 1027 to 100 is a couple of million dollars. In this quarter we had expense from the U.S. operation which was about 0.7%. We have one contract that had a reserve increase of $1 million was another 0.7%.

Last quarter we had a contract that had favorable development by millions, so would benefited from that. So we expect to hover around 100. One thing we say, we're trying to grow our loss reserve book and we’re getting very good traction on that – the economics of the deals are good.

But almost by definition those deals coming in at 100% composite, so if we're successful there that's clearly going to push our composite ratio up from what we said is that segment becomes big will break it out separately we'll explain the economics, clearly the markets competitive, but we remain hopeful that we can achieve our goals..

Kai Pan

Great. I'll stop here. Thank you so much..

John Berger

Thank you..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of [Seth] [ph] with KBW. Please proceed with your question..

Unidentified Analyst

Good morning..

John Berger

Good morning..

Unidentified Analyst

Thanks for taking my question. Just focusing on G&A expenses this quarter I believe you guys reported roughly 6.6 million of expenses versus 5.8 million last year. And I'm assuming underwriting headcount from the U.S. operation as a driver of this metric this quarter, is there any additional headcount growth that will likely be stemming from the U.S.

operation as it develops and I believe you said roughly 40% of the new business growth came from the U.S. operation.

Do you guys see that climbing of 50% or higher or how you're thinking about that?.

Chris Coleman

Let’s see a few parts your question there. So just on the G&A certainly the year-over-year G&A expense variation on the segment results was driven by headcount. We did add staff as we’re staffing up the U.S. operations late in 2014.

And into that early part of 2015, so you're correct that's a big driver of the year-over-year variance but I think – what you see coming through for the first quarter 2015 is pretty representative of fully staffed up U.S. operation, so not likely to see a lot of increased headcount there in the upcoming quarters.

And then you mentioned a comment on growth rate from the U.S. operations, which I don't think was quite right. I think we mentioned that the U.S.

operation generated $10 million of new business and the first quarter, but at this point still somewhat modest contributor to the overall growth of the company but that all over time the unlikely source of growth in the future..

Unidentified Analyst

Yes, sorry, I just meant the new business I thought you guys said 10 million came from U.S. and 26 million new business overall. I could've had that wrong.

And then just on the next question was there any prior-year reserve development in the quarter?.

Chris Coleman

Yes, we mentioned in the opening remarks there was $1 million of net unfavorable development in the current quarter and John just touched on a moment ago as well that contributed about 0.7 points to the combined ratio in the first quarter..

John Berger

Yes, just a point of clarification. The way go about setting reserves, we do on a contract by contract basis. And one contract the composite ratio still is below 100, but it looks like it picked up a little bit on us. So it's not a general across-the-board increase, it's one contract and for $1 million.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

And just on the larger deals that were discussed earlier, is that representative of most of the loss ratio improvement, it looked pretty good this quarter, what's really driving, I guess, that loss ratio improvement?.

John Berger

Yes, I mean, the components of the composite ratio and we've said this in the past that depending on the mix of business, you can see movements from one period to next in terms of the component.

And the example we like to give is some of the reserve deals that we write -- we put on the books at a 100% loss ratio versus other example of property quota share type contracts were maybe it's a 30% loss ratio and a 60% expense ratio. So really the movements in the loss ratio component of the composite ratio is usually just a mix driven item..

Daniel Loeb

Yes, we say -- I think that's a good way to look at. It’s the composite combined ratio for the reasons Chris outlined, just one or two big deals in a particular segment can really skew the loss ratio, but really not have that big of a change on the overall composite combined ratio.

Unidentified Analyst

Okay, great. Thanks.

Operator:.

Michael West

Hi, good morning. Thanks for taking the question. I was just wondering how much leverage you are ultimately looking to take on from insurance float and kind of how you think about what amount is appropriate. Thanks.

John Berger

Yes. We think, obviously, leverage asset leverage is a characteristic of the insurance reinsurance business. We think if we can get to a 1.4 asset leverage, that's very good and an important component of that is A.M.

Best is rating agency and we get capital charges for various things, with a typical company probably their biggest capital charge is their property catastrophe exposure. For us, it's because of our investment strategy we get a relatively large capital charge for that.

So I think when you look at the full equation today, a 1.35 or 1.4 asset leverage would be very good for us.

Michael West

I see. Thanks.

And I guess are you already at those levels now or when do you expect to get there if you're not?.

John Berger

We're at those levels today and we plan to manage our flow of business, so we stay at those levels.

Michael West

I see. Thank you. That's all.

John Berger

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. It appears we have no further questions at this time Mr. Berger I would now like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments.

John Berger

Thank you very much for dialing in. As we've said several times, we, despite a very challenging competitive market, we see many deals. Our pipeline of deals is good. And I'll point that we highlighted before that we think the M&A in our sector will help us.

As companies combined there will be fallout of business with personnel and we're one of the few pure reinsurance companies left standing and we think that will be a very good advantage to us. So we look forward for the remainder of 2015. Thank you. .

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this does conclude today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation and have a wonderful day..

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