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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2014 - Q3
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Executives

Nick Pinchuk - Chief Executive Officer Aldo Pagliari - Chief Financial Officer Leslie Kratcoski - Vice President, Investor Relations.

Analysts

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research David MacGregor - Longbow Research Liam Burke - Wunderlich Securities, Inc. Richard Hilgert - Morningstar.

Operator

Good day and welcome to the Snap-on Incorporated, Third Quarter Results Call. Today's conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the call over to Ms. Leslie Kratcoski, Vice President, Investor Relations. Please go ahead..

Leslie Kratcoski

Thanks Ryan and good morning everyone. Thanks for joining us today to review Snap-on's third quarter results, which are detailed in our Press Release issued earlier this morning. We have on the call today Nick Pinchuk, Snap-on's Chief Executive Officer; and Aldo Pagliari, Snap-on's Chief Financial Officer.

Nick will kick-off our call this morning with his perspective on our performance. Aldo will then provide a more detailed review of our financial results. After Nick provides some closing thoughts, we'll take your questions. As usual, we've provided slides to supplement our discussion.

You can find a copy of these slides on our website next to the audio icon for this call. These slides will be archived on our website along with a transcript of today's call.

Any statements made during this call relative to management's expectations, estimates or beliefs or otherwise state management's or the company's outlook, plans or projections, are forward-looking statements and actual results may differ materially from those made in such statements.

Additional information and the factors that could cause our results to differ materially from those in the forward-looking statements are contained in our SEC filings. With that said, I'd now like to turn the call over to Nick Pinchuk. Nick..

Nick Pinchuk

Taking that practical insight and matching it with a keen understanding of what’s made possible by modern technology. Into the quarter those processes resulted in three prestigious product awards, all are evidence of Snap-on bringing it together, the practical with the possible for a good effect.

We were again honored with the MOTOR Magazine Top 20 Tools Awards. The winner this time was the Two-Piece, Impact Swivel Extension Set, created to assist technicians to difficult to reach fasteners, like transmission bolts, driveline bolts, cylinder heads.

Its laser-welded pivot pin allows for smooth full 30 degrees swivel action and more efficient power transfer. Great for those difficult bolts and heads in tight spaces. It clearly makes critical work easier.

Snap-on also received two Professional Tool & Equipment News Innovation Awards for the Semi-Deep Flip Socket in the Hand Tools category and for our Digital Video Borescope the BK6500 in the Inspection Tools category. Our Flip Socket saves technicians time.

The convenience to using one tool to remove the two most common sizes of underbody fasteners, it speeds up things in the shop, we see it. I’ve mentioned this tool before. The P10 (ph) Award is just another accolade for what has turned out to be a very popular offering and great example of customer connection combining with innovation.

Also recognized by the P10 (ph) was our new BK6500, Digital Video Borescope, offering a true digital image and the largest viewing screen in the market. It diagnoses internal engine problems, inspects door panels, checks for corrosion inside radiators, examines break pad wear and looks inside transmissions and axel housing, all time saving activates.

I mention these awards, because they are just the most recent recognitions of a growing list of popular hit parade products that provide unique customer connection and guided advantages, fueled by the observations of our franchises and direct sales people, all committed to connecting with our professional customers and translating that insight into productivity innovations and Snap-on advantage, and all of that shows in the result of each group in the third quarter.

Now, to focus on those individual groups. Lets start with C&I. Lets start with the Commercial & Industrial Group. Organic sales were up 9.4%, with sales to customers in critical industries leading the way.

Operating margins reached 13.7%, up 60 basis points from last years 13.1%, volume growth and the benefits of Snap-on value creation and customer connection had a hand in those results, the C&I results as well.

Our industrial direct salesmen recognized the difficult of torquing large fasteners in the constrain spaces, so common to power generation plants. Our engineering team used this insight to develop or revised torquing process, utilizing a special compact torque wrench configured specifically for closed corners.

The new process makes work easier, makes tasks easier for professionals all over the critical power generation industry; courtesy of Snap-on Customer Connection & Innovation. Speaking of critical industries, broad progress was clearly evident in the quarter.

Power generation activity, aerospace volumes, shipments to natural resource customers and sales to the U.S. military, all critical and all up by strong double-digits. Lets talk about the U.S. military for a moment. Entering the year it had been a headwind due to budgetary constrains. But a recent resurgence has caused for guarded optimism.

With that said, the availability of future government funding and the timing of order activity remained difficult to predict and so the overall trajectory of military sales is still uncertain, but its been improving. As for SNA Europe, that operation recorded overall gains again.

Our fourth straight quarter of growth and it continues its positive trajectory of profitability. Operating margin was up again this quarter, well outpacing volume. Not only leveraging the additional activity, but realizing the benefits of RCI and past restructuring activities. SNA Europe strong. So that provides a bit of color on C&I.

Now onto the Tools Group. Organic sales up 6%, significant growth in the U.S. and internationally. Operating income in the quarter of $49.5 million compared to $41.9 million in 2013. Operating income margins of 13.9% rose 130 basis points from last year’s 12.6%.

The additional volume, as well as the operating improvements from RCI translated into significant margin gains. When you consider the root to the Tools Group success, some of it can also be found in the growing power of Snap-on value creation.

I’ve spoke often about the Rock N Roll Cab Express vans, enhancing the franchisees sales opportunities through expanded space, so we can display the full range of tool storage products to customers. If you have been following these calls, you know its been working, and the third quarter was no exception.

But beyond the selling assist, the Rock N Roll vans have served as a valuable platform for customer connection. We’ve uncovered a wide of range of tool storage innovations for trim, drawer, colors and other features, all from the interaction on the van.

A recent example is a newly introduced super wide drawer, now installed as a popular option in the epic tool storage line. The idea came from the Rock N Roll Van and now it’s a big seller, helping to stock the Tools Group growth. Third quarter is also when we hold the Annual Snap-on Franchisee Conference, our SFC. This year was in Orlando.

More than 8,000 attended.

Principals from over 3,000 North American routes and their families and their guests; product showcases, business seminars, new van operating programs, all designed to build franchisees success and in a follow-up survey the franchisees almost unanimously recommended participating in next year’s conference, a great endorsement.

But beyond the formal survey, beyond that survey, I was there myself.

I spent time with many franchisees and I believe I have never seen the more positive about their presence or with greater confidence in the future, the Tools Group; awarding winning products, unique mobile demonstration vehicles like the Rock N Roll Express and motivated and committed franchisees.

We’ve made it a priority to invest in the franchisee proposition and it’s showing in the third quarter results. When you speak of the van channel, we also must consider the strategic contributions of Snap-on credit. Our Financial Services arm helps create opportunities across our origination, but especially within the Tools Group.

Credit had a strong presence in Orlando at the SFC, supporting franchisees with innovative new programs aimed at enabling sales of those big-ticket items, which are so essential to franchisees success. And if you look at the numbers, Financial Services OI up $6.1 million or 19.3% in the quarter, you know its working. Now lets move to RS&I.

Total sales were up 7.3%, 4.4% organically excluding the Pro-Cut acquisition. The operating margin, 23.3% increased from 22.9% last year. The volume gains came primarily from higher sales and essential programs to OEM dealerships and from increases in diagnostics and repair information products, serving independent repair shop owners and mangers.

In the third quarter the RS&I Group, through the Equipment Solutions Division expanded our profile in automotive dealerships with several essential tool programs supporting vehicle launches, putting new models and redesigns or existing platforms.

Equipment solutions also provided new essential diagnostics for specific repair campaigns; one designed to identify electrical issues and to other to isolate causes of vibration and noise; new essential programs for dealerships launched in the quarter and helping fuel RS&I growth.

Serving in the independent shops, Mitchell 1 again recorded significant gains with its heavy-duty repair, connect product, securing business with several new key customer networks.

Repair Connect provides a complete range of trust repair information and solutions for independent and fleet truck shop and its becoming widely embraced across the heavy-duty market place. Customer connection also played a large role at RS&I during the quarter.

For example, for under car equipment, repair shop insight guided the development of a communicating like between our wheel balancer and customer information networks, unique data such as tread depth and the radial and lateral run out can now be shared directly with the customer’s database.

And in the quarter this feature was the deciding factor in converting a large German supplier of wheel logistics to the Snap-on balance of the line up and there are many more similar examples.

We also introduced our most recent acquisitions to international customers at Automechanika, the biannual Automotive Industry event held during September in Frankford.

Challenger Lifts were presented at the show for the first time as part of the Snap-on family and it generated broad interest with a wide range of customers from diverse geographies, signaling a new international opportunity for that product line.

Pro-Cut was also introduced at the show as a Snap-on product line, and the audience was attentive and appreciative. We believe it’s a sign of good things to come.

So as you can see, there was a lot of initiatives across many end customers, dealerships and independence, domestic and international, all contributions to RS&I gains in serving repair shop owners and mangers. Well, that’s the highlights of the quarter.

Sales up 7%, fueled by significant increases across the board in each group, clear evidence of progress along all our runways for growth. Snap-on value creation, driving improvement, customer connection, innovation, solving critical tasks and offering hit parade products, growth and improvement, brining our OI margin to 16.2%, up 140 basis points.

It was an encouraging quarter. Now I’ll turn the call over Aldo. Aldo..

Aldo John Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Nick. Our third quarter consolidated operating results are summarized on slide six. Net sales of $806.3 million in the quarter increased $53.1 million or 7% from 2013 levels, reflecting broad-based gains across all of our operating segments.

Organically, sales increased 6.2%, excluding $5.6 million of acquisition-related sales and $0.7 million of favorable foreign currency translation. Consolidated gross profit of $393.9 million increased $29.6 million from 2013 levels.

The gross margin of 48.9% in the quarter increased 50 basis points, primarily due to the benefits from higher sales and savings from ongoing RCI initiatives. Operating expenses of $263.3 million increased $10.3 million, primarily due a higher volume related and other expenses.

The operating expenses margin of 32.7% improved 90 basis points from 33.6% a year ago, mainly due to sales volume leverage. Restructuring costs of $2 million in the quarter compared with $1.7 million of such costs last year.

As a result of these factors, operating earnings before Financial Services of $130.6 million in the quarter increased $19.3 million or 17.3% and as a percentage of sales improved 140 basis points to 16.2%. Operating earnings from Financial Services of $37.7 million increased 19.3% over prior year levels.

Consolidated operating earnings totaled $168.3 million and the operating margin of 19.6% improved to 170 basis points from 17.9% a year ago. Our third quarter effective income tax rate of 31.8% compared with 32.6% last year.

Finally, net earnings in the quarter of $103.7 million or $1.76 per diluted share compared to net earnings of $84.6 million or $1.43 per share last year, representing a 23.1% increase in earnings per share. Now let's turn to our segment results. Starting with the Commercial & Industrial or C&I Group on slide seven.

Sales of $298.8 million in the quarter were up 9.4% organically, primarily reflecting a double-digit gain in sales to customers in critical industries and a single-digit sales increase in our European-based hand tools business. Gross profit in the C&I group totaled $111.8 million in the quarter.

Gross margin of 37.4% decreased 70 basis points from 2013 levels, primarily due a shift in sales mix that included higher sales to the military, as well as increased restructuring and other costs.

These year-over-year gross margin impacts were partially offset by savings from ongoing RCI initiatives, including continued improvements within our European based hand tools business. Operating expenses of $71 million in the quarter increased $2.2 million over 2013 levels, primarily due to higher volume related and other expenses.

The operating expense margin of 23.7% improved 130 basis points, mostly due to the sales volume leverage, including benefits from the higher military sales.

As a result of these factors, third quarter operating earnings for the C&I segment of $40.8 million increased $4.8 million or 13.3% from 2013 levels, and the operating margin of 13.7% improved 60 basis points from 13.1% last year. Turning now to slide eight.

Third quarter sales in the Snap-on Tools Group of $355 million increased 6% organically, reflecting mid-single-digit sales increases in both our U.S. and international franchise operations.

Gross profit of $154.8 million increased $12 million from 2013 levels and the gross margin of 43.6% increased 80 basis points, primarily due to benefits from higher sales and savings from RCI initiatives. Operating expenses of $105.3 million in the quarter increased $4.4 million from 2013 levels, primarily due to higher volume-related expenses.

The operating expense margin of 29.7% improved 50 basis points from 30.2% last year, principally due to sales volume leverage. As a result of these factors, operating earnings of $49.5 million for the Snap-on Tools Group increased $7.6 million or 18.1% and the operating margin of 13.9% improved 130 basis points from 12.6% last year.

Turning to the Repair Systems & Information or RS&I Group shown on slide nine. Sales of $271.2 million increased $18.5 million or 7.3% from 2013 levels. Excluding $5.6 million of acquisition related sales or $1.6 million of favorable foreign currency translations, organic sales were up 4.4%.

The organic sales increase primarily reflects a double-digit gain in sales to OEM dealerships and a mid single digit increase in sales of diagnostic and repair information products to independent repair shop owners and managers.

These organic sales increases were partially offset by a low single digit decline in under car equipment sales, largely reflecting continued weakness in Eastern Europe related to demand for big-ticket items. Gross profit of $127.3 million in the quarter increased $10.6 million over 2013 levels.

Gross margin of 46.9% increased 70 basis points as savings from ongoing RCI and other cost reduction initiatives were partially offset by a shift in sales that included higher volumes of lower gross margin products, including increased essential tool and vacillation sales to OEM dealerships.

Operating expenses totaled $64 million in the quarter and the operating expense margin of 23.6% increased 30 basis points, generally due to the inclusion of operating expenses for Pro-Cut.

Third quarter operating earnings of $63.3 million for the RS&I group increased $5.4 million or 9.3% from prior year levels, and the operating margin of 23.3% in the quarter improved 40 basis points from 22.9% last year. Now turning to slide 10.

In the third quarter earnings from Financial Services of $37.7 million and revenues of $53.6 million, compared with operating earnings of $31.6 million on revenue of $45.1 million last year. The average yield on finance receivables of 17.6% compared with 17.4% last year and the average yield on contract receivables of 9.5% compared with 9.6%.

Originations of $221.6 million in the quarter increased 8% from 2013 levels. Moving to slide 11, our quarter end balance sheet includes approximately $1.4 billion of gross financing receivables, including $1.2 billion from our U.S. Snap-on credit operation. Approximately 80% of our U.S.

financing portfolio relates to extending credit loans to technicians. During the third quarter our worldwide Financial Services portfolio grew approximately $39 million. As for finance portfolio losses and delinquency trends, these continue to be in line with our expectations. Now turning to slide 12.

Cash provided by operations of $88 million in the quarter increased $3.7 million from comparable 2013 levels, primarily due to higher 2014 net earnings, offset by increased working investment. Net cash used by investing activities of $56.6 million included $35.8 million to fund the net increase in finance receivables.

Capital expenditures of $22.3 million in the quarter compared with $19.3 million last year. Turning to slide 13. Day sales outstanding for trade and other receivables of 64 days at both the end of the second and third quarters compared with 62 days at 2013 year-end.

Inventories increased $50.2 million from 2013 year-end levels, essentially to support continued higher customer demand and new product introductions and from the addition of inventories related to Pro-Cut. On a trailing 12-month basis inventory turns of 3.6 compared with 3.7 at the end of the second quarter and 3.8 at 2013 year-end.

Our quarter-end cash position of $124.7 million decreased $92.9 million from 2013 year-end levels, largely due to the repayment of $100 million of debt in March of this year.

The net decrease in cash also reflects year-to-date impacts of funding, $549.2 million of new finance receivables; dividend payments of $76.8 million, the repurchase of 591,000 shares for $67.5 million, $63.3 million of capital expenditures and the acquisition of Pro-Cut for $41.3 million.

These uses of cash were partially offset by $425.1 million of cash from year-to-date collections of finance receivables and $300.7 million of cash from operations. At the end of the third quarter our net debt to capital ratio was 25.9%.

In addition to our $124.7 million of cash and expected cash flow from operations, we have more than $700 million in available credit facilities, and our current short-term credit ratings allow us to access the commercial paper markets. At quarter end we had $36.7 million of commercial paper borrowings outstanding.

I'll conclude by mentioning a few outlook items for the remainder of the year. We continue to expect that our full year 2014 effective income tax rate will be comparable to our 2013 rate of 32.3%, and we continue to anticipate that capital expenditures for the year will be in the range of $75 million to $80 million.

With that, I'll now turn the call over to Nick for his closing thoughts.

Nick?.

Nicholas Pinchuk Chairman, Chief Executive Officer & President

Thanks Aldo. Well, we are encouraged by our third quarter. Sales up 7%; significant activity gains in each of our operating groups. Yes sure, there are headwinds, but that’s nothing new.

Our growth trend has passed through turbulence in almost every quarter and we believe the third quarter performance again represents solid evidence of progress along our runways for growth, enhance the franchise channel. The Tools Group grew at 6% continuing its string of positive gains.

Group OI rose 130 basis points and we believe our network of franchisees are growing in strength and confidence. Expanding with our repair shop owners and managers, RS&I grew at 4.4%, had an OI margin of 23.3% and successfully continued the integration of Challenger and Pro-Cut. Extend to critical industries. Organic sales were increased 9.4%.

Strong gains in aerospace, oil and gas and the military; SNA Europe sales growing again with profit rising even faster. Build in emerging markets, continuing to strengthen the physicals and seeing it payoff. Progress along our runways for improvements.

Snap-on value creation, safety, quality, customer connection and RCI offering great new products and improving profitability, driving optical OI margin for the corporation to 16.2%, up 140 basis points.

We do believe the quarter’s results are tangible evidence of the abundant opportunities available along our runways for growth and are clear confirmation of the power inherent in Snap-on value creation.

We’re encouraged, but we believe there is more, much more and our team is positioned with the capability and the intent to take full advantage and to continue the trajectory of positive performance for the foreseeable future. Now, before I turn to questions its time once again to speak to our franchisees and our associates.

I know many of you are listening. The encouraging results of the third quarter and the ongoing favorable trends due to your extraordinary capabilities and your considerable effort. For your contribution to our performance you have my congratulation, and for your continuing commitment to our team, you have my thanks.

Now I'll turn the call over to the operator. Operator..

Operator

(Operator Instructions) And we’ll take our first question from David Leiker with Baird..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

Good morning everyone..

Nick Pinchuk

Hello David..

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Good morning..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

So can we talk Nick or Aldo, just kind of the pace of sales through the quarter and there’s some concern that July and August might have been okay, but September started the slowdown at all.

Is there anything you can characterize in terms of what you saw as you moved through the quarter?.

Nick Pinchuk

Well, we never really characterized the calendarization of our sales, but those who listen to us like you do, those who listen or watch us would know this and that July and August are vacation seasons in the Europe and the United States.

For Europe and Northern Europe its July and then August in Southern Europe, so July and August are afflicted by vacations and the same pretty much applies to the van business in the United States, where we have the SSC in August for a reason, because that’s when the guys who are driving the vans want to take a little vacation.

So you might be entitled to the fact that those months might be a little bit more tepid or certainly more variable and then you might be entitled to the fact that in a relatively strong quarter, that quarter would have to be delivered at the end. I think this is kind of logical sense.

So without commenting on the week-by-week or day-by-day, I think you can infer that we had a fairly strong end, given that our quarter is so large..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

How much of the strength that your seeing, both on the revenue side and the margin momentum carries over into Q4 and into 2015..

Nick Pinchuk

Well, I don’t see anything that interrupts that strength, I’d say that. We never comment on the forward looking months, but I think when I look at our positions along our run rates for growth and the power of our improvement, we see it carrying over the positions with the franchisees.

They are more confident than ever before, I said it just a few minutes ago. You can see the critical industries. The critical industries seem to be humming. Military is coming back, although I did say that can be uncertain, but boy, increases are better than a poke in the eye and its been increasing fairly well, so you see that.

RS&I just cranks along and anything in the auto repair business I think is fairly strong at this point..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

And then just the last item on this, what about Europe? Obviously there’s a lot of concern. We talked to a lot of people. Some think Europe might be rolling over. The Europe business has been flat on its back for several years here and just starting to bounce up.

Any thoughts on how that might play out?.

Nick Pinchuk

Well, a couple of things. First of all, certainly we see turbulence in the east like we said for several quarters.

We were up again, the fourth straight quarter of growth in Europe and again, they were on vacation in July and August, so this is a fairly – from that perspective, it was a fairly positive quarter in terms of trajectory, sort of like trajectory. And I will say, our European business is coming off the mat.

We are still down 20% to 25%, so we’ve got a long way to get back to where we were in 2008. So I feel okay about Europe at this point..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

Okay, and then just one last item here. Aldo in the working capital, looking at the cash flow statement, that’s about a $24 million increase in the use of working capital year-over-year. I don’t think the acquisitions are in there, but can you talk to that a bit..

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Certainly. The increase is largely reflective of higher demand plus our intention to provide better service levels to our customer base. At this time you’ll pick up a little bit of a seasonality effect coming out of the Snap-On franchisee conference that you mentioned.

It was a pretty well attended conference, pretty good order book and some of the inventory increase reflects that ordering activity. Also accounts receivable are up pretty much the same. 64 days at it was at the end of last quarter, but again that’s tied more to the sales increase..

David Leiker - Robert W. Baird

Okay, terrific. Thank you very much..

Nick Pinchuk

Thanks David. Bye..

Operator

And we’ll take our next question from Gary Prestopino with Barrington Research..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Hey, good morning everyone. .

Nick Pinchuk

Good morning..

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Good morning..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Hey, Aldo I kind of missed your narrative in terms of the sales increases in the RS&I segment, I think – what did you say, it was high single digit sales to OEM dealerships and low single digit sales to independent repair shops. .

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

No, I think I said it was double-digit sales to OEM dealerships and mid to high single digits in sales of repair information and diagnostic products for the independent shops..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Thanks. All right, hey Nick, I want to just talk obviously Europe and David mentioned this with his questions, but could you tell us exactly how much the sales in Europe were up in the quarter if at all..

Nick Pinchuk

Well, the sales, if you are talking about SNA Europe, it was up – I would say you could characterize it as low single digits. Kind of the same as it was at the last quarter. Although last quarter we would have characterized it as mid single digits, so I mean it was a little bit lower.

But I think when I look at the total that goes in and goes out, we saw some really strong growth in places like Spain and Italy and Denmark and Finland and some weakness in some other places.

Europe as always varying from quarter-to-quarter, we think we kind of had the same quarter with volume growth again and leverage on the bottom line that outpaced the growth..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Okay. Although collectively if you put all the European economies together, they are a mess, they are not growing. I mean, is it still a function of that.

You are penetrating the market at a greater rate, adding new products, just executing better, is that really what…?.

Nick Pinchuk

I think that’s it. I mean I think its – I spend a lot of time of this call trying to emphasize the power of customer connection and innovation by another way, the mechanism by which we generate new products and so in Europe you have new products. For example, in Europe we have something called the Bahco ERGO Tool Management System.

A system, which we put in critical applications. The box, which takes care of tool control, is customized to the customer and we put Bahco tools inside.

It’s a version of what we do in the United States with the Snap-On brand, only its Bacho and its fitted to each individual customer; that’s driving some of our sales, so individual product improvement is helping.

Secondly, we are just getting better at selling than we were before, because of RCI and our efficiencies and thirdly, I think to be frank here, you know as I said, I think I’ve said on many of these calls, we are coming off a pretty deep dip. We are down 20% to 25%, so you know the world doesn’t have to be that rosy for us to grow.

And so I think you put those three things together and you would say, look we’ve been growing in Europe for several quarters. Four straight quarters now and people have been mourning for a while and we’ve just been growing through those headwinds. .

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Right. And then could you give us some idea. With the Rock N Roll vans and the TechKnow vans, they are just the U.S.

based phenomenon, correct?.

Nick Pinchuk

Not exclusively, but mostly. To give you an idea for example, this quarter – I think in the end of the quarter we had like 59 Rock N Roll cabs. I think about five were in the international outside of North America, so there was a few and they grew a couple.

One in the United States, one in North America and two in Europe and we have 25 TechKnow Express vans and they are just in the U.S..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Okay.

Are there plans to expand the actual physical van count for both of those categories?.

Nick Pinchuk

Well, there’s certainly a plan to – the Rock N Roll cab, we’ve got quite a few. I would think international we’d be adding a few more perhaps; we’ll be looking at that. U.S. we’ve got kind of pretty much the nation covered. You might add one or two as you go forward. The TechKnow Express, there are plans to add more as we go forward..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Okay. And just in terms of your best guesses, that on basis points of sales, I mean what would be the incremental contribution from having these vans out there to the Tools Group sales..

Nick Pinchuk

Gee, its hard for me to say Gary, because they don’t actually sell, they just promote the product. And so they go out there and are like a rolling showroom and the guy gets on. As you know, he gets on the van. He sees all these tool storage boxes or these diagnostic units and he ends up ordering from the franchisee who is in that territory.

So it’s a tough guess to say well, would it have sold anyway? Certainly what’s happened is, since we’ve had the Rock N Roll cabs for like a couple of years now, tool storage has outpaced the tools group for sometime and our big ticket items again, which is a favorable sign actually, big ticket items outpaced the Tools Group sales in general, and that of course has been driven by this, but I don’t think we have a number.

We just know they are helping us. We believe they are paying back. We can afford them because of the 6% growth, the 6% growth this time, the 6.6% last time, the 6.6% the time before that and the drop to 130 basis points improvement. We believe it’s in the mix, but we haven’t worried about payback in general or how much it’s boosting.

Sorry, I can’t help you too much..

Gary Prestopino - Barrington Research

Well, that’s fine. Thank you very much..

Nick Pinchuk

Yes, sure..

Operator

We’ll take our next question from David MacGregor with Longbow Research..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

Yes, good morning everyone. Great job. Great quarter Nick..

Nick Pinchuk

Thanks..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

Yes, outstanding..

Nick Pinchuk

We did a great job..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

Yes, everybody really pulled together and it really shows. I guess I had similar questions about franchisee productivity for next year and you’ve had the Rock N Roll cab Express and TechKnow vans. Clearly financing opportunities have been a facilitator to some degree and of course you’ve had a very strong new product introduction queue.

Are there other things driving franchisee productivity into 2015 and maybe can you talk specifically about the extent to which financing opportunities are enhancing franchisee productivity. You talked about it at the conference. There was a strong….

Nick Pinchuk

Sure. I mean I can talk about this a little bit. The thing is there’s a number of things. I think first is just general productivity. We’ve got the Rock N Roll van, the TechKnow Express and what they are doing is they are amplifying the power of the space, that’s the van.

The van after all is rolling retail space and TechKnow Express and the Rock N Roll cabs are amplifying that on a time-shared basis from route to route and that’s clearly allowed us to reach out for more technicians. You know as I said, we don’t call on all the technicians.

We don’t have all the technicians on our sales book at one time in the United States. So we have opportunity to add more, just from those at existing basis, that’s helping. Secondly, it’s a productivity issue, because our guys are real busy and so the idea doing something like RCI, just like a factory.

Looking at the van like a factory, figuring how to make work easier for them, ratchet repair for example. Making the ratchet repair more easier is one thing we can do, things like that, how to bounce inventory. We’ve just rolled out; we’re rolling out and its kind of completing the roll out of a brand new point of sale computer system.

We call it chrome. It’s going to help the van drivers’ productivity immensely and then when it comes to finance, finance is just a matter of since its now in the house, the finance programs are tailoring.

The credit companies are tailoring their programs just to what the franchisee needs and therefore making it easier for him; one, from an actual point of view and an execution point of view and two, not in substantial, making it easier to understand. We’ve done a lot of work in making these programs easier to understand.

I would say four years ago you kind of needed a semi PA. You needed to be an analyst at one of the Wall Street firms or one of the investment firms to be able to understand some of these credit programs, but now it’s a lot easier and so those are the kinds of things we’re doing..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

So when you talked about rolling out a line of new credit programs at the conference this year, were they just easier to understand or was it making credit more available?.

Nick Pinchuk

Well, easier to understand, one; and two, making credit more available and this way we did a couple of things. One is, we refined our model so that we can think about the actual credit, the actual applicant and better decide whether it’s a good risk or not a risk and want to take the credit.

And then look at the franchisee and consider more effectively the franchisees record in choosing and recommending and collecting when making a choice around that, and putting that together in the credit profile and allowing more people to get credit, because the combination of the franchisees endorsement and the credit rating of the individual borrower, the customer made it for a more target rich environment for us, a more informative environment and therefore we were able to do a little bit more activity..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

You are just shifting gears to maybe growth by acquisition. You’re putting some great organic growth numbers. You talked about being willing to go forward and making growth by smaller acquisitions, bolt on acquisitions. Give us a sense of what you see over the next 15 days, maybe 18 months..

Nick Pinchuk

We’ve got a long pipeline of possibilities and every quarter we’re acting on, we’re reviewing acquisitions and considering possibilities. Some of them are small, some of them are pretty large I think, but they are all what I would call coherent.

That is, they lie on one of those four runways for growth in terms of enhancing the van channels and expanding repair shop owners and managers, understanding critical industries and other things and so we’ve looked at some really big ones that would ease up a huge portion of our fire power and decided well, maybe that isn’t for us or it isn’t quite – its only got a very – not enough of the business fits us and we’ve looked at some smaller ones like Pro-Cut and so on and we pulled the trigger, but we’re looking at them actively all the time.

The pipeline, the prospects are fairly large though and it continues to refresh..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

I was just going to say, can you remind us on your priorities.

Is there a particular segment your leaning towards or does it – what should we think about…?.

Nick Pinchuk

No, the priorities are any of those runways for growth, but as a practical matter, as a practical matter, expanding repair shop owners and managers, giving us something more to sell like Pro-Cut brake lathes or a Challenger Lifts is something that is high priority.

Giving us something that would give us more to sell or give us more presence with critical industries is another area that we’d be looking at. Now we would consider emerging markets with the vans, but I think the acquisition targets are less. There’s less available in those areas that fit so coherently in those places..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

Last question is just, across your three segments, where do you still have the most immediate opportunity for RCI?.

Nick Pinchuk

I’d say C&I, but C&I had an encouraging quarter, 13.7% OI margin. That is the highest OI margin ever by C&I and the last – we only hit when its high, the highest OI margin and we hit it in the second quarter of 2008. It was on considerably more sales. I think $20 million or $30 million more sales.

So in fact C&I has made a lot of progress and we see more opportunity going for it, but I hate to say that, because to tell you the truth, I think there is ample opportunity in all our businesses. Like I said many times, if we never got another dollar of incremental sales, we would drive the profitability upwards..

David MacGregor - Longbow Research

Great. Thanks very much. .

Operator

And we will take our next question from Liam Burke with Wunderlich Securities. .

Liam Burke - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.

Thank you. Good morning Nick. Good morning Aldo. .

Nick Pinchuk

Good morning. .

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Good morning. .

Liam Burke - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.

Nick, could you give us a sense as with innovation being a big driver of growth, how the pace of hot products have been this year..

Nick Pinchuk

Well yes, sure. I hate to, I don’t like to pin myself down, but we are ahead of last year. Last year was a record. I hesitate to say a record, because it was as high as is more than we’ve seen since we’ve been measuring our hit parade products, which by definition, our definition is a product which sells $1 million in the first year after launch.

And you might remember that I said last year we hit a level that was lets say between four and five times what we had just in 2006 and we are ahead of last years pace as of now. Now, of course you got to launch it, its got to sell a $1 million, so who knows.

I think there’s some great products in the pipeline, but whether the customers are going to like it or not, I’m not sure. Sometimes I’m not simpatico with the customers, but fortunately the guys who launched the product and design are, so I have confidence that we are ahead. .

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Nick Pinchuk

They’ve been strong. We’ve had a good strong year in diagnostics. We just launched a new product, which is rolling out on our service line. It’s got some great new features, faster and having perform more capabilities, bigger screen. It’s incredibly profitability and its incredibly popular, sorry, incredibly popular, and so I am positive about that.

Diagnostics is the movement of – people can relate to the RS&I business because you see the information. You can see the technology and the products. But one thing I want to offer is, when you are talking about critical industries, you are talking about some – in the C&I side you are talking about some fairly sophisticated items.

I was just down at an aerospace facility, at an aircraft manufacturing and repair facility and I was talking to customers, speaking to customers, because that’s where it’s expanding.

I talked to one young technician there, who started to take about low frequency ebbing current; an assessment of structural damage or structural weakness in airplane fuselage.

He is one of our customers using our tools and he is talking with great authority about this kind of technology or another different guys talking about magnetic residence to determine weaknesses in the fuselage.

So even on an RS&I side, I mean even on the C&I side, in critical industries, you are seeing a tremendous deployment of technology in criticality that gives us opportunity to innovate around that. .

Liam Burke - Wunderlich Securities, Inc.

Great. Thank you, Nick. .

Nick Pinchuk

Sure..

Operator

And we will go next to Richard Hilgert with Morningstar. .

Richard Hilgert - Morningstar

Thanks and good morning everybody, good quarter. .

Nick Pinchuk

Thanks..

Aldo Pagliari Senior Vice President of Finance & Chief Financial Officer

Good morning Richard. .

Richard Hilgert – Morningstar

Most of my questions have already been asked, but wanted to visit a little bit about the different between margin expansion from RCI during the quarter versus the improvement that we saw in volume and in areas like the military and over in Europe and especially Europe C&I and in the hand tools side.

Can you differentiate there or give us some kind of an idea of what the degree is of margin improvement from both of those. .

Nick Pinchuk

I kind of resist doing that. If you look at our numbers over time, I kind of view it like this. I kind of view volume leverage and productivity at flat volume as horns on the same goat.

You basically get higher sales and you do it with the same people who are slightly less, and it drops through with a great rate, that’s RCI, because you fundamentally enable your people to do more with the same. Then now other people might call that leverage, but we can consider that RCI if we see reasonable drop through.

And the same kind of thing, its sort of the same version, if the sales are flat and we are able to reduce cost, like spend less or maybe use less, do the same kind of support to the tools group, but do it with less cost, let fright for example, less fright cost or less material cost or less design cost, those kinds of things are a positive at flat sales.

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Richard Hilgert – Morningstar

But obviously breakeven has improved bottom line and I look at what EBITDA was five years ago versus where you are at today. We are looking at a 900 basis points improvement from the bottom.

So any idea, can you give us some kind of an idea of magnitude on – has the breakeven improved maybe 100, 200 basis points in your opinion?.

Nick Pinchuk

You know I again resist it. I don’t think of it in those terms. I really don’t think of it in those terms. I think of it in the terms that I just – I and the Snap-on team think of it in these terms. We don’t necessarily look back so much. We look forward and say – and not that we don’t know where we’ve come, but we say to ourselves, look, our task.

We sit her now. Our task is to improve next year, improve going forward, and we find components of that and we have programs which will generate savings associated with things like design, cost reduction for products, less material.

Maybe a little bit less expensive way to do the same thing with somewhat more quality, we’ll do that or we’ll find ways to enable people on the line to be able to do more. For example, we will – I’ve done this myself.

We work in a factory and bring down setup times and that will allow more throughput to the factory and more changeovers in the factors, so therefore more throughput and I can do more volume with the same people.

And so we don’t – and we have a myriad of projects in both those areas, some of them work really well, some of them don’t, but I don’t think we worry ourselves so much about which ones contributed to us. More or less we think about what’s the total result at the end. That’s what’s worked for us for 900 basis points. .

Richard Hilgert – Morningstar

Okay. Thanks for taking my questions, and again congrats on the quarter. .

Nick Pinchuk

All right. Thank you. .

Operator

And we have no further questions in the queue at this time. I’d like to turn the conference back over to Ms. Leslie Kratcoski for any additional or closing remarks. .

Leslie Kratcoski

Thanks everyone for joining us today. A replay of the call will be available shortly and as always, we appreciate your interest in Snap-on. Have a good day. Thanks..

Operator

And that does conclude today's conference. Thank you for your participation..

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