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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2016 - Q3
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Executives

Meghan Finneran - Financial Analyst Thomas F. August - President and CEO Vincent A. Corno - EVP of Leasing and Development Christa A. Vesy - Interim CFO, EVP and CAO Matthew A. Lougee - SVP of Finance Paul W. Freddo - Senior Executive Vice President of Leasing & Development.

Analysts

Alex Goldfarb - Sandler O'Neill & Partners Michael Bilerman - Citigroup Jay Carlington - Green Street Advisors Steve Sakwa - Evercore ISI Todd Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Markets Ki Bin Kim - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Haendel St.

Juste - Mizuho Securities Jeremy Metz - UBS George Hoglund - Jefferies and Company Vincent Chao - Deutsche Bank Michael Mueller - JPMorgan Carol Kemple - Hilliard Lyons Floris van Dijkum - Boenning & Scattergood Ronald Kamdem - Morgan Stanley Christy McElroy - Citigroup Paul Morgan - Canaccord Genuity Chris Lucas - Capital One Securities Tamara Fique - Wells Fargo Securities.

Operator

Good morning and welcome to DDR Corp.'s Third Quarter 2016 Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Meghan Finneran, Senior Financial Analyst. Please go ahead..

Meghan Finneran

Thank you Angie. Good morning and thank you for joining us. On today's call you will hear from President and CEO, Tom August; Executive Vice President of Leasing and Development, Vince Corno; and Executive Vice President, Chief Accounting Officer and Interim CFO, Christa Vesy. Please be aware that certain of our statements today may be forward-looking.

Although we believe such statements are based upon reasonable assumptions you should understand that these statements are subject to risks and uncertainties and actual results may differ materially from the forward-looking statements.

Additional information about such risks and uncertainties, that can cause our actual results to differ, may be found in the press release issued yesterday and the documents that we file with the SEC, including our Form 10-K for the year-ended December 31, 2015.

In addition, we will be discussing non-GAAP financial measures on today's call, including FFO, operating FFO and same store NOI. Reconciliations of these non-GAAP financial measures and most directly comparable GAAP measures can be found on our earnings press release issued yesterday.

This release and our quarterly financial supplement are available on our website at www.DDR.com. Last, we will be observing a one question limit during the Q&A portion of our call in order to give everyone the opportunity to participate. If you have additional questions, please rejoin the queue.

At this time it is my pleasure to introduce our President and Chief Executive Officer, Tom August..

Thomas F. August

Thank you, Meghan. Good morning everybody and thanks for listening into our call. As Meghan said I'm in the room here with Paul Freddo, Vince Corno, Christa Vesy, and Matt Lougee. I want to talk about three things today. First is just to reflect for a couple minutes on some meetings I have had recently with analysts and investors.

I am going to make a few comments about the quarter and then Vince and Christa will sort of fill in on a lot of that, and then really focus on the strategic issues that we have been addressing the last few months here.

Let me start out -- I sort of stayed here in Cleveland and visited properties during the summer, and went out on sort of a tour with visiting analysts and investors in Boston and Washington, a conference, a dinner. And I'm getting the same response from everybody, and that is, you're tired of the DDR story.

It's always next year when things are going to get better. I'm the third CEO who says, we will get things better, and I guess, really as you look at the stock, price things haven't changed to everybody's satisfaction.

I understand everybody's frustration, but unfortunately I can't go back to 2014 or 2015 and do things differently than they were actually done. All I can tell you is I am sitting here in October of 2016, we are going to tell you what we're going to do and then we plan on going out and getting it done.

I wish there was more I could do, but we are doing everything we can and thinking of all the ways we can to try and create value for the company. I appreciate those of you who have stuck with us, and I certainly understand the rationale for those of you who haven't. We are a real show me company right now. We are not a trust me company.

We need to earn back your confidence, and it's going to take time, and it is going to happen, not because I say so, but because we deliver on promises we are making to you in actual results. So again I just wanted to sort of say that to start off. On a quarterly basis things are looking good. The day-to-day operations continued to perform very well.

We have had a pretty active leasing quarter with over 300 leases signed for almost three million square feet. Our occupancy dipped a little bit because of The Sports Authority, but we are still at over 95% leased, I believe 95.4%. Our same-store growth was a good 3.4%. Leasing spreads continue to be pretty strong.

We are up 21.1% on new and 8% on renewal. And we are making really good progress on our problem tenants, that Vince is going to go into little bit, namely Sports Authority and Golfsmith. So all-in-all I think a very good operational quarter. We had impairments, and that just resulted from our projected increase in sales over the next year or two.

I think as you all know once we put an asset into a potential sale category we need to look at it through sort of a different prism from an accounting perspective and that's what we have done. None of this related to any land. It all related to operating properties and it was pretty well spread throughout the portfolio.

Let me move to sort of the strategic issues if I will. Organizationally -- I am going to start internally. We have made some changes internally that I think will allow us to operate more efficiently. We've combined a couple of positions that had been separated.

Most notably we are also creating a more formal structure with our asset management team, which will be led by Matt Lougee.

And what we are doing is forming teams with Matt's group and asset management and portfolio management and operations and leasing, I think to create a more disciplined look at the way we are looking every center, so that everybody has a team to have ownership of the bottom line and will be incentivized based on the bottom line results.

And the CIO/CFO search, I started that probably right around Labor Day with the CIO and the CFO followed. I had hoped today to be able to give you some results. Unfortunately I'm close, but I can't announce anything at this point in time.

Additionally, I've been speaking with the Board quite a bit and what we have agreed is, that we may also be seeking to hire a President or CEO role.

As many of you have pointed out my background is not in retail, and I think adding more retail experience, at the senior level of the company to complement the people we have here will just do nothing but help us going forward.

So the goal is really to have a significant amount of what I call intellectual capital with retail experience at the senior level.

And then secondly, and this just really relates to, I think good management practices and succession, is I would hope that one or possibly more of the people, either internally or those who we bring on board will be in a position to take my place at some point in the future. So good, just good succession planning.

Hopefully I will be able to show you some progress in that pretty shortly. I want to talk about the Board for a minute. The Board has agreed that we will be seeking two new Board members. This will allow us, first and foremost, to more adequately fill out some of our committee rotations.

We are kind of short now with five independent board members, in how we fill our committees. I think, also, given the different background of getting a different perspective, whether the new Board members are in technology or e-commerce or capital market, will give me a different perspective and I think will help me run the business more effectively.

I'm not sure exactly when those Board members will be added, maybe by February but certainly by our Annual Meeting in May. Let me move on to our portfolio review and our deleveraging strategy. We spent a lot of time this summer looking at the portfolio. Vince and I have been on the road quite a bit.

I've recently been to Puerto Rico, Atlanta, Chicago and Denver. The rest we have seen sort of via Google Earth. And what we did was -- the purpose was several. One is to get Vince and I a little bit more familiar with the assets. Two is to categorize redevelopment opportunities, or shall we say, value creation opportunities at every center.

And then the third was to look at what assets we might want to dispose of based on quality, location, compounded growth rates or whatever. So towards that end we have got a list of redevelopment, of value creation ideas for every center that we will be implementing over the course of the year.

And then in the sales category, as you all know, we sold Upstate New York. That was sold for the mid-eight cap rate. So when you combine what we have sold in New York plus everything else we have done this year the overall cap rate for these sales have been in the 7.5 range.

I did not go to the New York asset simply because they were under contract, but I kind of believe, that they were, based on everything we were told here, and looking at them internally that they were clearly on the lower end of our portfolio.

We hope and we are planning on having another $250 million to $300 million, either sold or certainly under contract by our next conference call.

We are now focused on some of our secondary markets, and I believe that the cap rates we are looking at will be between 7 and 7.5, on those assets that we are looking to sell, probably not only in the next $250 million to $300 million, but probably that will be the average throughout the course of 2017.

Our goal is to get down to a debt-to-EBITDA of around 6.0, and the phrase we are using here internally is we want to do it in an orderly, disciplined, but timely fashion. So number one, get it done.

But let's be disciplined enough so that we take a little extra time if necessary to make sure we get good pricing on each sale and don't become a forced seller. Moving on to our joint ventures, I want to really talk about two of them. First is Ballroom. That's with Blackstone. We've a 5% interest, 55 assets worth about $2 billion.

As most of you we don't have control over that, Blackstone does. We understand they were in the market, attempting to be selling it. Again we just don't have the timing on that. We have -- do not have any interest in buying any of those assets.

Our interest in addition to, probably about $100 million of equity, is the $300 million or so of preferreds we have at 8.5%. We created the sugar high for ourselves with this high-yielding preferred, and it's going to come off at some point. I just don't know at this point. I can't give you any timing as to exactly when that will happen.

Manatee is another joint venture I did want to mention. It's 20%, we have 20% ownership. Again it also has about 55 assets. It's in the $1.2 billion to $1.4 billion range, which means our interest is $240 million to $280 million. That is in the market now. Initial bids are due in the next couple of weeks. There is a very, very active groups looking at it.

There are a couple that are looking at the entire portfolio, and there are numerous groups that are looking at different pieces of it. As all of you know we have a right of first refusal on that. And we have been approached by a number of different parties to team up with them in some way to buy, joint venture, some of these assets.

I think at this point we are just sort of keeping all of our options open. I obviously realize it would be nice to take advantage somehow of this right of first refusal, but we also want to keep in mind that de-levering is a main goal we have for 2017.

On the timing, I think a lot is going to depend upon how many buyers are ultimately selected to buy this property. If it's one, obviously it could be quicker. If there's multiple buyers it could take a little longer.

A guess today, and it's just a guess, is that that the deal will be awarded to the various groups or one group by the end of the year and we should be looking at a late first-quarter early second quarter close. In Puerto Rico we have done all our analysis.

We have been approached by several groups who are interested either in the entire or part of the portfolio. I am not sure as we stated today, if we will be able to transact on that. A lot will be depending upon the financing available to the potential buyers. I don't want to be a forced seller in this.

So as we look at our goals for 2017 it does not include selling Puerto Rico. It would be nice if we could. It would nice if we reduce our exposure at a minimum. But again I don't want to be a forced seller, and I think at this point it's too early. So the next 90 days are very, very important for us. We need to fill some organizational holes.

We will have some direction on new Board members. We think we will sell between $250 million and $300 million of assets. The joint ventures, at least Manatee I think maybe, won't be closed but at least we will know exactly where we are headed, and I think we will have a much better handle on Puerto Rico.

So we are really focused on what we need to do to get this done and achieve our goals, but I think we are also spending a fair amount of time on looking at what do we like after all this is done in terms of our size, the quality of our portfolio, our balance sheet, compounded on the growth rate, and I will tell you as we look here in Cleveland we are pretty excited about what we can be.

We owe you a detailed plan. What I'm calling phase two of our growth, as to how we get -- once we get our initial goals, how do we grow and who are we. We have delayed that. And I've delayed it for a couple reasons.

One is that we got a lot of big things in the market right now, just we are trying to figure out organizationally, some big joint ventures, some asset sales.

And secondly is when we are looking at bringing on some very senior retail real estate talent I would like to take advantage of their expertise, and their thoughts before we finalize a program that we have in terms of how we are going to look going forward.

So we will get it to you but I want to be thoughtful on this and make sure we do it the right way. So with that I turn it over to Vince Corno..

Vincent A. Corno

Thank you, Tom. And good morning to everyone from the city of Cleveland, the home of one champion and hopefully in the next couple of weeks, a second champion here very shortly. Thank you all for joining today's call.

I would like to start off, this is my first earnings call but I want to offer up my thanks to Paul Freddo for his continuing support and tutelage. I am pleased to say that the transition of leasing and development from Paul to me continues to be very smooth and orderly.

Paul and I have been great friends and special colleagues for over 20 years, going back to our department store days, and I must say it's a true privilege to be on the same team. Tom, Paul and I spent the last quarter doing a deep dive into the DDR portfolio, as Tom mentioned in his opening comments.

In August and September we conducted 10 days of portfolio reviews in which we looked at the operational status of most of DDR centers from coast-to-coast.

We looked at the property's strengths, weaknesses and opportunities, did an in-depth Boardroom assessment of each center's market position, tenant lineup, site plan, financial performance among other things, and these were all led by our by our capable leasing professionals responsible for the individual assets.

It also provided me an opportunity to spend time getting to know the team. Tom and I, as he mentioned, also visited a large number of DDR assets since the last call. We have been to Puerto Rico, Denver, Chicago, and Atlanta with more business to come.

I must offer that every trip I come away even more energized by the high quality of the centers across the portfolio and the pride that we have here at DDR about the team and the assets. Across the board the centers that I saw, or have seen in the last 90 days are very vibrant, compelling and crowded shopping venues.

After the time I spent on the job here, I can personally attest that both from the retail side of the table from my days at Dick's Sporting Goods and now with even more conviction, now that I am on this side of the table, that the people, the portfolio and the processes here are the best in the business.

The fact that DDR's operations haven't skipped a beat despite some of the turmoil at the management level is a testimony to the quality and the depth of our company's resources.

I'm on the record, I think with some of you saying that the team here is a well-oiled machine and we continue to produce without any exception in this quarter in that same vein. This dynamic allows us to focus on the more strategic initiatives that Tom outlined without a concern about the core business.

So turning to the operating metrics for the third quarter, as Tom mentioned they were very strong, as strong as they had been for years. We posted a 3.4% increase in same-store NOI for the quarter on a pro rata basis with domestic NOI, which comprises 87% of our same-store pool, growing at a robust 3.6%.

Puerto Rico same-store NOI was likewise up, 2.1% in the quarter. This was driven largely by expense control relative to the prior year.

While the Sports Authority bankruptcy had a negative 70 basis point impact on the overall same-store NOI growth rate, this was offset by strong new and renewal spreads, reduced CAM expenses across the portfolio and increased overage rent.

We expect both the Sports Authority bankruptcy and the more recent Golfsmith bankruptcy to continue to negatively weigh on same-store NOI results going into the fourth quarter and into the first half of next year. Nonetheless it does not impact or affect our 2016 full year same-store guidance of plus 2.5% to 3.5%.

In addition to the strong same-store NOI results there are a few other call outs for your attention. During the quarter as Tom mentioned we executed over 300 new leases and renewals, for close to 3 million feet. Average year one rents on the new leases came in at $18.29 a foot.

Spreads for the new deals were strong at 21.1% at pro rata share, inclusive of the Puerto Rico assets. If you take the Puerto Rico assets out, new deal spreads were plus 29.5%. Spreads on renewals were likewise strong, at a positive 8% pro rata and 8.9% without Puerto Rico. DDR's inflation rent per square foot increased by $0.44 or 3% for the quarter.

The completed sale or disposition of the Upstate New York portfolio removed subpar rents averaging around $11.00 a square foot from the portfolio and significantly boosted this metric. Since the third quarter of 2015, in place rents have increased nearly 6% on the entire portfolio.

This is principally through strong new and re-leasing spreads, as well as disclosing of lower growth and lower rent assets. Year-to-date the average compound annual growth rate on new leases is 1.4%. This is an improvement over the 100 to 125 basis points that we have historically achieved.

Despite having a portfolio comprised of over 75% anchor space, we continue to focus on achieving annual bumps in new leases to drive future same store growth on small shop spaces as well as pushing anchors on mid-term bumps up at least 10% every five years. As we all know built in rent increases set the stage for healthy growth in future years.

This is despite our consistently very high leased rate and the initiative remains a key priority for our team. Our lease rate for the quarter ended up at 95.4% at DDR's pro rata share. This is 70 basis points below last quarter and primarily due to the nine wholly-owned Sports Authority stores in our portfolio that were rejected in bankruptcy.

The decrease in the lease rate was partially offset by the continued improvement in the small shop lease rate which now stands at 89.9%, a 40 basis point improvement over last quarter and 140 basis point improvement annually. We continue to work through the Sports Authority bankruptcy and remain very pleased with the demand for our vacant boxes.

Dick's Sporting Goods and T.J. Maxx assumed three of our 12-wholly owned locations without an interruption in the rent stream. In the case of the two locations assumed by Dick's at Perimeter Point in Atlanta and Midtown Miami, we recently signed lease amendments that reset those deals with a new 10 year base term, tenant allowance at higher rent.

We are at leased or letter of intent for six additional Sports Authority boxes that we expect to open in the second half of 2017, all at positive spreads. Dick's, T.J. Maxx, Ulta, Specialty Grocery and Gym Users are the front runners for these spaces.

All said we are on the path to having three quarters of our Sports Authority exposure resolved in the near term with better retailers, at better rents. As you know another sporting retailer, Golfsmith filed for bankruptcy since our last call and is in the process of liquidating.

DDR has six wholly owned Golfsmith locations, all of which are in prime plus or prime centers. Golfsmith represents 30 basis points of DDR's annual base rent and occupies premises in the 20,000 to 35,000 foot square range.

We have received word that Dick's Sporting Goods intends to assume and operate two of the six locations, both in prime plus centers, one in Denver, one in Phoenix and they will retain designation rights for the balance of the Golfsmith portfolio.

The remaining four locations are located in two prime plus and two prime centers at slightly below market rents. We believe this provides DDR good opportunity to increase both the rent and the NAV at these centers by backfilling with better and stronger retailers in the event that Dick's elects to reject the leases.

In any event we are confident that we will achieve successful and accretive solutions for the remaining locations. I am pleased to report that in Puerto Rico we had a great H&M opening at our Del Sol property in the quarter. And the island's first Dave & Buster's is on schedule to open next summer on the Del Sol food court.

We continue to work hard to build and maintain the retail lineup of our [Indiscernible] dominant portfolio. With that said however our Puerto Rico business continues to underperform as compared to the consistently strong results of our Mainland U.S. assets.

Same-store rental revenue was a diluted plus 0.4%, which is consistent with the flattish trends of past quarters. Spreads on renewals signed this quarter were a negative 4%. The weak spreads are largely due to tenant roll downs necessary to maintain the current leased rate of approximately 93%.

We remain laser focused on maintaining and enhancing occupancy in our Puerto Rico centers with credit worthy tenants in the face of the commonwealth's economic and political headwinds. I would also like to briefly touch on our redevelopment pipeline.

As part of my DDR indoctrination we did a detailed evaluation by property of the existing pipeline and potential opportunities. Based on this review I am confident that we'll be able to continue to deliver at least $100 million of redevelopment projects annually at returns in the high single-digits.

This quarter alone we transferred $31 million of development and redevelopment construction work in process to active status. The majority of this came from our stabilized development in Guilford, Connecticut and $12 million from the expansion of our Belgate Crossings project in Charlotte where a T.J.

Maxx and Burlington were placed into service in Q3. We have identified multiple wholly owned assets with major redevelopment potential and I will provide updates in the coming months.

Before I finish my comments I would like to address some industry commentary concerning a potential glut of vacant department store supply that may soon hit the market and the impact that it may have on power centers. I start by saying that I'm a big believer in the power center format over other retail formats.

And after spending 20 years in the department store business I only point to my choice to join DDR as a pretty good indicator of my level of personal conviction. Plain and simple of all retail formats power centers are best positioned to adapt to the consumers' rapidly changing shopping habits and demands.

This is especially true in the face of e-commerce disruption to the bricks and mortar business and the retail industry's movement toward an omni-channel environment. We are witnessing an evolution of the physical store.

In addition to its traditional function as a retail shopping venue the retail box is becoming a much more important and integral part of a retailer's distribution network. Innovations like click-&-collect, and buy online, ship from store are transformational. The changing role of the box favors our power center format over others.

A power center has a distinct advance in its simplicity and convenience. Our centers are typically smaller in scale and easier to navigate, yet located in the same super regional retail nodes as our mall brethren. The physical configuration is generally rectilinear and easily accommodating to retailers' changing prototypes and sizes.

With convenient surface parking right at the front door, the consumer can get in and out in an easy and efficient manner as compared to malls. Moreover our centers are much less complex when it comes to overarching legal limitations contained in easement agreements.

I have personally been involved in multiple instances when a mall owner pursues repurposing a department store box only to be blocked by a third-party under an REA or city approval.

Breaking up the department store box for multiple users is often times a cost prohibitive proposition, especially if it requires a downsize or consolidation of an existing occupant or a significant initial outlay to control the real estate.

Perhaps the most important advantage of our model, power centers are for occupancy cost efficiencies with rent in common area and charges that are dwarfed by comparable mall economics.

While these attributes in many respects are stating the obvious I think it is important that we emphasize them in response to a suggestion that there may be tenant flight risk. All said, I think the proof is in the pudding, as we count among our largest tenants many of the strongest and best in class retailers in the business.

This is not a coincidence. We are dedicated to curating a synergistic retail line up in our centers to provide our retailers and their customers the most compelling and convenient shopping environment. As a veteran retailer I will tell you that co-tenancy matters and at DDR we have the retailers that people want and the format that people want.

In fact the retail community is telling us this. We have only been approached recently by a number of highly regarded mall-based retailers seeking opportunity in our centers. They are telling us that their customers are telling them that they prefer the retail mix and convenience of power centers.

While some may advocate the plausibility of redeploying vacant department store space for use by power center-based retailers, there are significant and real hurdles to achieving this.

Nonetheless we see view potential competition in the form of an empty department store box no differently than we would view any other competitive real estate on the market. As with all competition we have and will continue to monitor and aggressively address competitive risks to our portfolio.

If there is a shuttered or soon-to-be vacant box in any one of our markets that is competitive with our real estate, regardless of whether it is in a mall, a power center or grocery-anchored center or freestanding you can be sure that we will be on it just as we always have.

In fact we have already surveyed every center in our portfolio and have identified properties with a Sears, Kmart and/or Macy's within five miles. In each of those centers we weighed the flight risk of each anchor tenant greater than 10,000 feet with a lease expiration in the next five years.

Our initial assessment under very conservative assumptions is only about 2% of our approximate 1,000 anchor tenants in our wholly owned portfolio, which affects 13 centers, poses a theoretical flight risk. Obviously we will be working on eliminating or reducing those risks as we move forward. That concludes my comments.

I will now turn the call over to Christa..

Christa A. Vesy

Thank you, Vince. For the third quarter operating FFO was $120.6 million or $0.33 per share which represents a 6% increase over the prior year. Including non-operating items FFO for the quarter was $120.1 million, also $0.33 per share. Non-operating items primarily consisted of approximately $500,000 of transactional and debt extinguishment costs.

As Vince mentioned the quarter benefited from strong same-store NOI growth through our consistent new and renewal leasing spread as well as through expense reduction.

During the third quarter we also recorded approximately $105 million of impairment charges, due almost exclusively to the change in the holding period and probabilities of sale related to assets in our current disposition pipeline.

While we clearly remain sensitive to impairing assets these charges were triggered by management and the Board's decision to move forward with additional asset sales in an effort to achieve new deleveraging goals.

While the prior strategy targeted a pro rata debt-to-EBITDA figure of approximately seven times, the current team sees the need for additional deleveraging to a figure of at least six times, if not further.

While we're very comfortable with our position in terms of the size of the unencumbered asset pool, debt duration, EBITDA stream, lack of development and international exposure, we no longer find it acceptable to be an outlier on debt-to-EBITDA.

We are committed to a year of capital raising through additional asset pruning in 2017 for de-levering as we pursue rating upgrades to benefit our cost of capital going forward. Next, I would like to provide an update on our transactional progress.

We closed on the sale of 25 assets totaling $457 million of DDR share in the third quarter and in the fourth quarter to date including the sale of the portfolio of assets located primarily in upstate New York.

Asset sales closed year-to-date and under contract to close in 2016 total approximately $839 million at our share and are inline with our revised disposition guidance of $700 million to $900 million and carry a weighted average cap rate of approximately 7.5%.

We also closed on the acquisition of one asset in Portland, Oregon for $87 million, increasing our concentration in the market to four assets. We are also under contract to acquire a grocery anchored power center in the Lincoln Park neighborhood of Chicago before year end.

Both of these acquisitions were in process prior to the management change and with these transactions we will be inline with our original acquisition guidance of approximate $250 million, all of which will be fully funded with disposition proceeds.

Regarding modeling items we continue to anticipate the full wind down of our co-mingled joint venture, the DDR Domestic Retail Fund by the first quarter of 2017. We have a 20% interest in the 55 assets held in the fund and we collect approximately $12 million of management fee income from the venture annually.

I would like to highlight that we do have a right of first refusal on the portfolio that provides us significant rights with respect to the ultimate disposition of the joint venture assets. Consequently we are continuing to analyze various scenarios that will allow us to maximize the benefit from our ROFR.

Additionally our Blackstone three joint venture which acquired the former ARCP portfolio could also be wound down over the course of 2017 as mentioned by Tom.

While the timing is not clear we do not expect that we'll maintain an equity ownership or benefit from the interest income associated with approximately $294 million of preferred equity for the entire year in 2017.

I would also like to note that the preferred equity line item on our balance sheet has been renamed receivable preferred equity interest, to underscore that the $400 million balance related to both of the Blackstone joint ventures will be returned to us in full following the sale of all the joint venture's assets.

This change was initially made in the fourth quarter of 2015. However, we continue to see this receivable will balance missed in our NAV calculations.

Finally while we are not yet providing guidance for 2017 I would like to draw your attention to the approximately 70 basis point spread between the cash and gap interest rates on our 2017 consolidated debt maturity.

This spread causes interest on the income statement to be expensed at an artificially low rate which results in an increase in GAAP related earnings metrics, including FFO per share. This spread is disclosed in footnote four, debt fair value amortization in the quarterly supplement.

Following the repayment of 2017 maturities the balance is expected to be reduced by 40% to 50%. I would also like to discuss changes in our supplemental disclosure this quarter. As you know the SEC has updated its interpretive guidance regarding the use of non-GAAP measures including pro rata financial disclosures.

We have revised the presentation of our financial statements and our quarterly financial supplements in accordance with the SEC's guidance. However we will continue to provide the pro rata information consistent with prior quarters to ensure accurate and seamless modeling.

Pro rata balances necessary for modeling can be found on page 16 in the third quarter supplement.

Finally due to strong operational results and given the delay in the closing of the portfolio located primarily in Upstate New York we expect to exceed the high end of our full-year operating FFO guidance range of $1.23 to $1.26 per share, and are therefore revising guidance to a range of $1.26 to $1.28 per share representing 3% growth year-over-year at the midpoint.

These disposition proceeds should allow us to achieve a pro rata debt-to-EBITDA figure below seven times by year-end and we will look to further lower this metric to a figure closer or better than our peer group.

However given the moving pieces regarding our future transactional strategy we will not be providing additional guidance on 2017 numbers on this call. We do look forward to updating you on next year's results in early 2017 consistent with our past practice. I will now turn the call back to the operator for questions..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from Alex Goldfarb from Sandler O'Neill. Please go ahead..

Alex Goldfarb

Good morning. Good morning out there. Just a question, Tom, you brought up the Board and you brought up the two replacement board members. Given the history that DDR's been [ph] a stand out with basically a dysfunction between management and the Board, I know you guys are looking for a replacement for you as an independent, to get a new independent.

So the two Board members you are talking about, are these going to be two of the five who have been there for over 10 years, in addition to you or it's just two in general, and as part of that can you talk about making sure that going forward there is more alignment between the Board and management, because clearly that's been -- there is an overhang on the prior management and it's just been something that makes DDR a standout, which it shouldn't be..

Thomas F. August

Thank you for the question, Alex. First of all I would like to say that my relationship with the Board is good. So I'm not going to discuss history. History, all I can tell you is the Board has been very supportive, as I have thought about what we want to do in terms of the deleveraging and JVs. That's number one. Number two.

I think what we are thinking of us right now is first let's add to the Board. We are pretty short on committees, I mean, the ability to fill the committees. So we are looking for two to add and I'm sure that the Board once we get these people on board will be addressing Board rotation in the future..

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Bilerman from Citi. Please go ahead..

Michael Bilerman

Hi. It's Michael, and Christy is on the phone with me as well. Tom, you have effectively described DDR as a show me story. Show me all the stuff that you are doing and then ultimately it should be reflected.

What is the appropriate amount of time that you expect the market to give you to execute against this plan, and I guess at what point given the progress you are making and where the stock trades would you encourage the Board to consider strategic alternatives? Obviously the stock being at the mid-$15 today, down from $20 in the summer is back to 2012 levels, sizable discount to the current NAV.

I guess at what point does it make sense to run a dual track process rather than wait?.

Thomas F. August

Well, right now Michael I can tell you my focus is just on fixing the fundamentals of the company. They are not focused on strategic alternatives. I think my mandate from the Board has been fix what we need to fix in terms of our leverage, in terms of our focus, in terms of our joint ventures and then let's see where we stand after that.

So I think that when you look at the next quarter we are projecting substantial noticeable improvement. It's not getting us all the way there but $250 million of assets sold, another 250, additions to the board, additions to management team. So we think we are making significant progress on a quarter to quarter basis.

That's really what my focus is today..

Operator

Next question comes from Jay Carlington from Green Street Advisors. Please go ahead..

Jay Carlington

Good morning. So tom what does the hiring of a CEO, President kind of mean in terms of your role and time frame at the company, because maybe there was an assumption you would be there for the next couple of years.

So has that thought process changed at all?.

Thomas F. August

So maybe I misspoke or maybe you hopefully didn't hear me right. We are talking about hiring a President or CEO, -- excuse me a President or COO..

Jay Carlington

Okay..

Thomas F. August

So obviously what we want to do is hire some really qualified retail experienced person and that person will hopefully along with others, either in the company or additional hires be in a position to take my place at some point. Now whether that's three years, five years, two. I don't know.

Obviously we want to get the right person in here to help us with this turnaround..

Operator

Our next question comes from Steve Sakwa from Evercore. Please go ahead..

Steve Sakwa

Thanks. Good morning. I guess, Vince, maybe you could talk a little bit more about Puerto Rico and the demand that you are seeing down there. It sounds like renewals were down.

I'm just wondering is there any new activity and I guess how much of a price discount do you have to give people in order to get them to either stay in current space or to kind of manage through the sales declines?.

Vincent A. Corno

Candidly, it's a difficult environment down there. A lot of the tenants that are rolling are requesting significant rent reductions to stay on board. What we are doing is positioning the asset so that we are not locking in at these lower rents for the longer term because we do believe that will be opportunity down the road.

But I would tell you that it is an environment where in order to maintain a 93% leased rate we are having to make concessions to tenants that are rolling..

Operator

Our next question comes from Todd Thomas from KeyBanc Capital. Please go ahead..

Todd Thomas

Hi. Thanks. Good morning. Tom, I understand that you don't want to be a forced seller in Puerto Rico, but you laid out a target of reducing leverage to six times debt-to-EBITDA which includes quite a bit of disposition activity to get leverage to that level.

If you don't sell Puerto Rico and you end up selling other assets instead, are you comfortable owning that portfolio as a larger exposure within DDR?.

Thomas F. August

Well I think the preference would be to at least reduce our exposure there but again we are going to be faced with the choice and then I'm sure we will get some sort of offer and we decide it is appropriate for us to sell it now or hold it a little bit longer.

Again our preference would be to reduce our exposure somewhat but we don't want to get too far in front of ourselves where we are forced to take a deal that just doesn't make any economic sense..

Operator

Our next question comes from Ki Bin Kim from SunTrust. Please go ahead..

Ki Bin Kim

Thanks. Good morning. Could you just help recap your disclosure program? I know you said you are looking to sell 250 or 300 more in the fourth quarter. I am guessing that excludes the JV asset sales.

So in totality what is the range of the activity that we should expect from DDR next year? And the second tied to that Puerto Rico when we look at the year-over-year change in the ABR for a top five assets it seems like it was down 1.6%.

Just curious how you expect to get some reasonable pricing when NOI is going negatively?.

Vincent A. Corno

Let us start. I think we are targeting 250 to 300 for the next quarter. In those numbers we're not assuming anything for any of our joint venture or the two joint ventures that I referred to which would be the Manatee and the Volvo. And I think the second question, I think we were flat not down..

Thomas F. August

Yes. Puerto Rico, Ki Bin, in terms of the sales model, one that is based on an annualized quarter lease ABR. So it's not overly comparable quarter over quarter, when you are looking at individual assets, so there could be seasonality involved in there and just the annualization.

So as Vince mentioned we were roughly flat in terms of ABR growth in Puerto Rico..

Operator

Our next question comes from Haendel St. Juste from Mizuho. Please go ahead..

Haendel St. Juste

Hey, good morning. Thanks for taking my question. Can you guys talk a bit about the full year same-store NOI guidance. You left it untouched here. We have got 60 days left in the year. I'm curious why you haven't narrowed it. It implies a 4Q same store NOI basically 0% to 2% which clearly a big drop off from recent quarters.

Are you being conservative here given your concern over Sports Authority and Golfsmith as you mentioned earlier and as part of that can you talk about what you're expecting from them? And any other potential tenant issues that are maybe emerging or factoring into your thinking, and can you weave in some thoughts on the big jump in the lease termination fees this quarter as well?.

Thomas F. August

As to the same-store NOI roll forward I would tell you that going forward we don't expect it to be on the high end of the range. Fourth quarter will probably be on the lower end of the range that we have guided. The TSA impact and the Golfsmith impact obviously will take some of the luster off of the recent performance.

As to the TSA and the Golfsmith locations, as I mentioned in my comments we are in the process of redeploying those assets. We have three already resolved. We have six that will be up and running in the middle of next year. With the Golfsmith it is really still too early to tell.

But certainly with respect to the guidance that we provided to-date we expect it to be on the lower end of the guidance in the fourth quarter..

Vincent A. Corno

And on the term fee question and driven mostly by a deal with Game Stop on multiple locations. That's what drove the big number in the third quarter..

Operator

Our next question comes from Jeremy Metz from UBS. Please go ahead..

Jeremy Metz

Hey guys. Tom, I want to follow up on Michael's question earlier on how DDR has been this next year's story for the past few years. You guys took up your disposition targets again which will further dampen 2017 earnings, paring back Puerto Rico is obviously still a priority.

So I'm wondering how confident you are that next year will be the turning point here and then what sort of earnings growth rate do you think is realistic for the company from there?.

Thomas F. August

Going forward, I'm not sure about that. I will tell you for the next year assuming the market conditions stay kind of where they are now I think we are going to be hitting our goal.

I think, just giving you an example, I think in New York we got kind out in front of ourselves telling you it was done before it was really done and I think we want to be cautious here and make sure we can deliver. We are really confident about the next quarter.

I would suggest that we think we are going to be able to get our goals by the end of the year. If it takes us an extra quarter or so, so be it. But that is sort of where we are. In terms of the -- I know you are all waiting and you deserve, what do we look like afterwards.

We are pretty close to finalizing that but again we are hopefully going to bringing in some senior retail talent pretty quickly and I would like to have them put their finishing touches on it before we sort of tell the market. We only -- when I started my conversation, we are a show me company. We are not trust me.

I don't want to start saying things we can't deliver. So I want to be a little bit cautious and take a little bit longer than I normally might..

Operator

Our next question comes from George Hoglund from Jefferies. Please go ahead..

George Hoglund

Hi, I appreciate the color on the potential vacancies that might come to the market from department stores. I'm wondering what's DDR's point of view in terms of the retail environment heading into 2017 in terms of how might the level of vacancies and bankruptcies be relative to 2016.

And if management does have a view on the likelihood we do see a lot of department store vacancies?.

Thomas F. August

I think in terms of the retail trends that we are seeing out there, I would say that the winning concepts are really in the off-price sector, the Ross, the Burlington's. We are also seeing specialty grocers, home improvements, restaurants, fitness, entertainment, all of those categories are showing signs of growth.

As to the industry segments that are losing market share and showing a little strain that would be department stores, full price apparel, obviously office supplies and electronics.

As to our portfolio, I would tell you that we do business and count among our largest tenants some of the success stories in the industry, the darlings of the industries if you will; the TJXs, the Dick's, the Ross, the Ultas, the PetSmarts of the world are in our centers. They are all showing strong signs of growth.

In the case of Ulta in the second quarter they were up 14%. By and large across the board the tenants that I just mentioned are all showing positive comps as compared to other retailers. So we are optimistic about the holiday season, about the potential for our centers and the tenants in our centers.

We look at it as a real opportunity for us to continue to grow our same-store NOI and our tenants will continue to show positive comps..

Operator

Our next question comes from Vincent Chao from Deutsche Bank. Please go ahead..

Vincent Chao

Yes, hey.

Tom, just in terms of some of the executive searches that are going on right now plus the potential to add a President and COO, one, just curious how we should be thinking about G&A as we head into 2017 but then also below that executive level, is the transition phase or the turnover that you are seeing in that second layer, is that largely complete at this point or do you expect some additional changes below the executive level?.

Thomas F. August

I think the G&A will move up slightly. If you all recall I think we had a $10 million reduction from 2014 to 2015. So there will be clearly a slight uptick depending upon how many and the expense of these people we are bringing on. My guess is it will probably not be -- it will be still less than it was two or three years ago.

And I think what we have done is -- you would guess when I was named CEO there was a certain amount of instability here, feeling, people just nervous. I think with that the longer I am here the more stability we have gotten, and I think we are putting in place incentive programs for people to really show them the value of staying here at DDR.

So I don't think there is going to be much more turnover at the lower level as well..

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Mueller from JPMorgan. Please go ahead..

Michael Mueller

Hi. I was wondering are you expecting another year of heavy asset sales in 2017 above the JV inline similar to what we are seeing here, and if there is anyway can you throw out some rough parameters? And secondly I know you mentioned the 2017 cap rates would be about 7.5%.

Curious how much of overall 7.5% product is in the overall portfolio to be sold at some point?.

Thomas F. August

I think that we probably have the first part of our sales program is going to be at the 7.5 range, the first half maybe. Certainly the next $250 million to $300 million will be in that category..

Matthew A. Lougee

Michael, it's Matt. I would add that obviously in terms of dispositions for next year we have not quantified that in terms of guidance, although with Tom's remarks I think whatever you can back into mathematically I'm getting to roughly a term lower. It's probably the right net sales number in terms of cap rates.

Mid-sevens is probably what we have left in the portfolio. I mean the New York stuff was the worst of the worst. And so that cap rate print I think would be on the high end of anything else we would sell going forward. So I think from a modeling perspective I think you continue to see a seven handle on those..

Operator

Our next question comes from Carol Kemple from Hilliard Lyons. Please go ahead..

Carol Kemple

Good morning. On the income statement operating and maintenance expense was down quite a bit over last year.

Was there anything that led to that decline just besides you have sold assets?.

Christa A. Vesy

No. I would say generally speaking there was maybe a bit of outsized spending in 2015 compared to 2016. We did have lower expenses across the portfolio both in Puerto Rico and domestically. In Puerto Rico we did experience some savings on the utility front side, just due to benefit of lower rates.

But I would say it wasn't necessarily part of some sort of a formal program..

Operator

Our next question comes from Floris van Dijkum from Boenning. Please go ahead..

Floris van Dijkum

Great. Good morning. A question on your net effective rents.

Could you maybe talk about why the net effective rents appear to have dropped by $1, a $1.5 relative to previous quarters and why you're CapEx is picking up a little bit?.

Paul W. Freddo

Yes, Floris. This is Paul. One it's a function of several things and obviously the starting rent has something to do with where we end up on net effective rent, and they were slightly lower than the prior two quarters but still a strong number. I don't want -- that starting rent on new deals of $18.91 is something we feel very good about.

It is not the same number as the other two quarters but well head of about 20% north of our average base rent in the portfolio. So you are always going to see some choppiness in the starting rent based on the character of the deals we make in a quarter.

In this quarter and in terms of some of the cost, I think it is always important to remember we are including everything in that cost part of this equation, landlord work, tenant allowance, commissions.

I'm not sure that's the way it is being reporting by everybody else but we have got it all in, and in this quarter we happen to have a couple of deals that, the demise and split of one of our Sports Authority, boxes out in LA, in the LA market, great comps but a costly deal and also a new specialty grocery we did backfilling, that we will be in HH Greg, again at a significant spread but costly.

So a little higher costs this quarter. No trend that concerns us at all as we look at the capital we are putting into the deal..

Operator

Our next question comes from Richard Hill from Morgan Stanley. Please go ahead..

Ronald Kamdem

Good morning. This is Ronald Kamdem on Richard Hill's line. Just a quick one for me.

Talking, looking at the dispositions that you have mentioned for 4Q and assuming that the Manatee and Ballroom goes through, can you just remind us that the end of 2017 where does that put you in terms of assets and obviously you spent a lot of time going through and walking through the portfolio.

When you are thinking about longer-term and the disproportionate amount that comes from your top 50 assets, longer-term view where do you think could be an ideal asset base for the company? Thanks..

Thomas F. August

I think that if we do what we say we are going to do and the two joint ventures wind up we will be at around 200 assets. And I just want to remind everybody that several years ago it was 850. When I first started two or three or four months ago it was 350. So it is a significant drop.

I think one of the things that is getting lost in a lot of this is that as you can tell by the cap rates, we are selling the lower quality stuff. So I think the quality of the portfolio will be much better.

I'm hoping that once all this noise with the management issues get settled that people start to focus on the real estate and the quality that we have created over the last few years. I don't think we have set a goal in terms of number of assets. I think that our goal is really quality and growth rate going forward.

And we just got into a little bit of trouble when we started buying these the big, big portfolios with several hundred assets and disposing of the bottom pieces has taken us a lot longer than we thought it was going to do it..

Operator

Our next question comes from Michael Bilerman from Citi. Please go ahead..

Christy McElroy

Hi. Good morning. It is Christy here as Michael. Just to be clear on the timing regarding Michael's question. You mentioned that you have a lot going on in the next 90 days.

Is that the timeframe after which you might start to explore some more strategic things to demonstrate to the market a discount to NAV? And then, just on Puerto Rico, you mentioned sales are somewhat dependent on financing.

Would you consider providing seller financing to get deals done?.

Thomas F. August

I think what I told Michael is my focus right now is on improving the overall quality of DDR from a balance sheet asset perspective and then adding some new people from a new organization. I don't think I addressed -- and if I did I shouldn't have. We are seeking strategic alternatives. I have not said that at all.

What we are doing is just fixing what we have today. We think that we will be in great shape once we do that. I can't remember the second. It was several questions in there. Seller financing, I think -- again I think what we have said it's a little too early to tell where we are with about Puerto Rico. We would like to reduce our exposure.

We will do something that's economically advantageous to us and nothing more than that. We will keep all of our options open with respect to that..

Operator

Our next question comes from Paul Morgan from Canaccord. Please go ahead..

Paul Morgan

Hi, good morning. I am curious you said you were out in the markets touring the assets over the past quarter or so. What your takeaways are, the prior management had set, kind of clear demarcation prime plus, prime and had a view on kind of where the cutoff was. Now you have implied dispositions going forward to get to your new leverage hurdle.

I mean does that -- do you think that the asset sales that are implied by that are going kind of cut into what we used to think of as the prime portfolio? Do you think that was the right quality bar to set and kind of anything -- any color that's related to kind of what you saw recently?.

Vincent A. Corno

I think that we would be selling the lower quality in secondary markets. I think that's what our goal is. I think when I look back at my predecessors, Dan and David, I think that was their philosophy too. I think that in fact the quality has improved dramatically. Appropriately the other issues with the company have overshadowed.

People are really looking at the real estate..

Operator

Our next question comes from Chris Lucas from Capital One Securities. Please go ahead..

Chris Lucas

Yes. Good morning everybody. Tom, thanks for a good overview of your immediate goals. I guess the one question I had relates to sort of the organizational structure that will be reporting to you, say six months or whenever the executive level positions that you are currently looking for get filled.

Can you give me a sense as to what that looks like? Who are the people that were reporting to you and what their responsibilities will be?.

Thomas F. August

At a minimum there will be all of the corporate functions which will be the CAO, the CFO, the General Counsel, potentially the CIO. Depending upon what role -- obviously the leasing and development and depending upon who we bring in, it could be have some operational people reporting to that new person.

I think until we actually hire the person and understand the skill set that we are bringing in, deciding reporting requirements at this time is just a little too difficult for me right now..

Operator

Our next question comes from Tammy Fique from Wells Fargo..

Tamara Fique

Hi. Just following up on Paul's question maybe a little differently, asking a little differently. Following the recent portfolio reviews and looking at property strengths and weaknesses, I am just sort of curious, these broad portfolio reviews have been done a number of time over the last few years.

So how is this review different versus prior reviews in terms of what specifically you were looking for and how were you thinking about redevelopment yield thresholds?.

Thomas F. August

I am going to take the first part and I will turn it over to Paul or Vince for the second part. The portfolio views are really different because three or four years ago they were looking at 850 assets with a totally different quality and locational range than what I did this time, which was 350 assets, really 335 since New York was pretty much done.

My review was of a much more focused and higher-quality portfolio than might have been conducted three or four years ago..

Paul W. Freddo

As to the redevelopment pipeline I think we feel very confident that we should be able to support at level of at least $100 million a year and the yields on that should be in the high single-digits. There is a lot to work within the existing portfolio. Be it an out parcel, be it repurposing vacant stores.

But certainly I think that that's a pretty low threshold and should be able to sustain that level..

Operator

This concludes our question-and-answer session. Ladies and gentlemen the conference is now concluded. Thank you for attending today's presentation. You may now disconnect..

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