Kristin Brown - Vice President, Investor Relations Marty Hughes - Chief Executive Officer Brett Nicholas - President Christopher Abate - Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer.

Bose George - KBW Brock Vandervliet - Nomura securities.

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Redwood Trust 2016 First Quarter Earnings Conference call. During management's presentation, your line will be in a listen-only mode. [Operator instructions] I would now like to turn the conference over to Kristin Brown, Vice President of Investor Relations. Please go ahead..

Thank you, Kim. Good afternoon, and thank you for joining us to review Redwood Trust's first quarter 2016 earnings report. Before we begin, I wanted to remind you that certain statements made during management's presentation with respect to future financial or business performance may constitute forward-looking statements.

Forward-looking statements are based on current expectations, forecasts, and assumptions that involve risks and uncertainties that could cause actual results to differ materially.

We encourage you to read the Company's Annual Report on Form 10-K, which provides a description of some of the factors that could have a material impact on the Company's performance, and could cause actual results to differ from those that may be expressed in forward-looking statements.

Also note that the content of this conference call contains time-sensitive information that is accurate only as of today, Thursday, May 5, 2016. The Company does not intend, and undertakes no duty to update this information to reflect subsequent events or circumstances.

Finally, today's call is being recorded, and access to this recording will be available on the Company's website at redwoodtrust.com later today. For opening remarks and introductions, I will now turn the call over to Redwood Trust’s CEO, Marty Hughes..

Good afternoon, everyone. Thank you for participating in Redwood's first quarter 2016 earnings call. Joining me on the call are Brett Nicholas, Redwood's President; and Chris Abate, Redwood's CFO.

After my remarks, Brett will discuss our residential mortgage banking business, then Chris will discuss our investment activity and financial results for the first quarter.

We had a very productive first quarter during which we substantially completed the repositioning of our residential and commercial mortgage banking businesses, deployed $146 million of capital into new investments, including $25 million to repurchase our common shares and convertible stock.

We reduced our repo debt by 259 million from year-end, and sold $151 million of residential securities, bringing up $58 million of capital for reinvestment into higher yielding assets. Margins on our jumbo mortgage banking activity were very strong and just below 150 basis points, which was well in excess of our normalized expectations.

Additionally our first quarter cash flows from our investment portfolio increased from the fourth quarter of 2015 and the underlying credit performance of our investments remained stellar.

Despite the progress we made in many aspects of our business during the first quarter, some of this activity coupled with continued volatility in the fixed income market did create some noise in our first quarter GAAP earnings, which came in at $0.15 per share as compared to $0.46 per share in the prior quarter and $0.16 per share in the first quarter of 2015.

The decline in our first quarter earnings was largely due to a $0.14 per share in restructuring expenses and $0.19 per share of negative market valuation adjustments primarily driven by credit spreads widening during the quarter. If we repriced today's credit spreads, these negative adjustments have largely recovered in value.

To offer additional transparency, one of the ways we analyze the performance of our businesses, we have introduced a new non-GAAP core earnings metric to supplement our quarterly GAAP earnings analysis going forward.

Our non-GAAP core earnings for the first quarter of 2016 were $0.44 per share as compared with $0.45 per share in the fourth quarter of 2015.

This new metric was developed in response to feedback from shareholders and analysts based on the need for a better way to comparatively analyze our quarterly earnings, which has been extremely volatile over the past few years.

Some of this volatility has been driven by our mortgage banking operations, which we had taken steps to address in recent months.

The majority though has been driven by the extreme volatility in the fixed income markets over the past couple of years and the shift towards fair value accounting, which requires us to reprice our long-term investments each quarter causing significant volatility in GAAP earnings that we don't believe is reflective of our core results.

Our hope is that this new metric becomes an effective tool to supplement though not replace our quarterly GAAP operating results going forward. Chris will provide further details on both our GAAP and core earnings in a moment, and we look forward to your feedback.

I also wanted to touch on our business strategy, which we believe bears repeating following all the recent business repositioning. Our goal has been to create a growing stream of earnings through a combination of investment income from our portfolio, and fee income from our residential mortgage banking activities.

We are continuing to allocate over 90% of our capital to invest in activities with a primary focus on residential mortgage credit. Our target investments include prime jumbo loans, new issue RMBS subordinated securities, credit risk sharing transactions and potentially RMBS issued by third parties.

To source these assets, we will rely on our established network with external relationships, our proprietary mortgage banking platform, and our Sequoia securitization program.

We may also look to legacy or newly issued CMBS should risk-adjusted returns be attractive and we will also continue to review our holdings of our commercial mezzanine portfolio and may look to opportunistically sell all or part of this portfolio.

In summary, our full attention is now on growing earnings by seizing on new attractive investment opportunities, managing our invested capital, and maximizing the value of our jumbo loan franchise. We are upbeat about the remainder of 2016 and more importantly about the long-term growth prospects for Redwood.

As stated in our fourth quarter Redwood review, our expectation is to generate GAAP earnings between $1.20 to $1.50 per share for the full year of 2016. After incorporating our first quarter results into our current outlook, we continue to expect GAAP earnings for the full year of 2016 to fall within this range.

Now, I'd like to turn the call over to Brett Nicholas, Redwood's President..

Thank you, Marty. We are pleased with our residential mortgage banking results for the first quarter of 2016. We purchased $1 billion of residential jumbo loans during the quarter and by shifting packets to take advantage of the favorable economics for whole loan sales, improve the gain on sale margins on jumbo loans sold during the quarter.

Jumbo loans sourced through our residential platform and held for investment by our federal home loan bank member subsidiary also increased by 31% during the first quarter of 2016. As we have transitioned away from transacting and conforming loan products, our team has been able to shift all of its focus towards new jumbo loan initiatives.

This has enabled us to accelerate the planned rebranding of our prime platform by a number of months, and to offer new products to our sellers in response to growing demand.

Beginning in April of 2016, our traditional jumbo program has been rebranded as Redwood Select and we have launched a new expanded credit prime loan program called Redwood Choice. The new choice program is a prime program that is fully documented but with credit parameters outside of our more recent underwriting guidelines.

The choice program includes fixed rate and hybrid QM and non-QM loans and extends the low end of our FICO range from 661 from 700, while increasing the high-end of the eligible loan to value ratios from 85% to 90%.

Additionally we can acquire interest only non-QM loans under the choice program and non-QM loans with debt-to-income ratios up to 49.9% under each of the select and choice programs.

We believe that capturing the entire prime universe rather than just a subset of it will enhance our competitive position in the market, allow us to create better yielding investments and most importantly allow us to leverage both the Redwood brand name and our existing resources.

While we believe there will be a ramp-up period as our sellers adopt, offer and originate these new loan alternatives for borrowers, we are excited about our choice program’s potential and expect to develop a better sense of how it will impact overall purchase volumes in the coming quarters.

As we did not complete any residential securitizations during the first quarter of 2016, let us address what is going on with the private-label securitization market. Over the past five years the issuance market for securitization has fluctuated between feast or famine, and unfortunately it currently is in the latter state.

Nevertheless we continue to believe that over time private-label securitization is a very efficient and necessary mortgage financing, especially for prime jumbo loans. Our Sequoia securitization program is a market leader and we continue to actively work with AAA investors to introduce new enhancements.

In our opinion, the primary obstacle to increasing private-label issuance volume is the lack of market liquidity as many traditional issuers and many major AAA investors remain on the sidelines. This condition has kept credit spreads both wide and volatile, which pressures securitization economics.

Despite these headwinds, we currently expect to complete the Sequoia transaction in the next few months and are looking forward to investing in the subordinate tranches. I will now turn the call over to Chris Abate, Redwood's CFO, to discuss the quarter's financial results..

Thank you, Brett, and good afternoon, everyone. Our first quarter earnings were $0.15 per share as compared to $0.46 for the fourth quarter. Our earnings included $0.14 per share in restructuring and severance charges, and $0.19 per share of negative market valuation adjustments, primarily driven by credit spreads widening during the quarter.

As Marty mentioned, we are happy with the progress we made repositioning the business during the first quarter. We also introduced a new non-GAAP core earnings metric to supplement our quarterly GAAP earnings analysis. Our non-GAAP core earnings for the first quarter were $0.44 per share as compared to $0.45 per share for the fourth quarter.

Our core earnings metric excludes the charges we incurred from the recent restructuring of our residential conforming and commercial businesses. It also excludes certain market valuation adjustments related to the value of long-term investments that are otherwise repriced through our GAAP earnings each quarter.

Lastly, it eliminates the impact of GAAP tax provisions or tax benefits. Importantly it does not adjust our mortgage banking results, MSR income, or make adjustments to normal operating expenses whether cash or non-cash. It also does not impact how we as managers are compensated.

Our first quarter core earnings reflected higher portfolio net interest income, higher income from MSRs and improved results from our jumbo mortgage banking operations.

The overall decrease in core earnings from the prior quarter was primarily due to lower realized gains as the fourth quarter included higher than usual sale activity associated with the re-securitization entity that was extinguished in the fourth quarter.

Our GAAP book value was $14.17 per share at March 31, as compared to $14.67 per share at December 31.

The decline was primarily the result of our first quarter dividend exceeding our GAAP earnings due to restructuring charges, as well as a decline in the value of interest rate derivatives, hedging our long-term debt and lower fair values for our securities as a result of volatile market conditions in the first quarter.

Turning to our recent investment activity, we deployed $146 million of capital during the first quarter towards new investments, including $52 million of investments in subordinated RMBS issued by third parties, $9 million of investments in MSRs and $2 million of investments in commercial mortgage-backed securities.

The subordinated securities we purchased during the quarter included both RMBS and credit risk transfer investments. We continue to focus on innovative new credit risk transfer opportunities as a way to provide credit solutions to large bank portfolio aggregators of residential loans, as well as to Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac.

We continue to make significant progress replacing lower yielding portfolio assets, with higher yielding longer duration investments. During the first quarter we sold $151 million of residential securities and $30 million of MSRs, while redeploying a portion of the net proceeds into loans financed with the Federal Home Loan Bank of Chicago.

This represented $82 million of capital we invested during the quarter. Additionally, we deployed $21 million of capital to repurchase 1.6 million shares of Redwood common stock at an average price of $12.81 per share and 4 million to repurchase some of our convertible senior notes, which has dated maturity of November 2019.

Turning to the income statement, net interest income was $38 million for the first quarter as compared to $44 million from the fourth quarter. Net interest income from our residential investment portfolio continued to improve in the first quarter to $35 million as compared to $34 million in the fourth quarter.

The overall decline in total net interest income was attributable to a lower average balance of loans held for sale at our mortgage banking operations, largely due to the winding down of our conforming and commercial mortgage banking activities.

In addition, net interest income for the fourth quarter of 2015 benefited from $2 million of non-recurring yield maintenance fees received from the prepayment of two commercial mezzanine loans.

Income from residential mortgage banking activities increased to $7 million for the first quarter from breakeven in the fourth quarter primarily due to higher jumbo loan sale margins.

Jumbo gross margins were 140 basis points for the first quarter, well above the 59 basis points we recorded for the full year of 2015 and well above our long-term expectations, reflecting favorable execution of whole loan sales versus securitization.

Of our 1.7 billion of total capital at March 31, 2016, 1.5 billion or 91% was allocated to our investments while the remaining $150 million or 9% was allocated to our mortgage banking activities. Included in our capital allocation is approximately 200 million of capital available for future investments.

We believe that our available capital is sufficient to fund our business and capital needs for the foreseeable future. At March 31, we had short-term purchased a repo debt of $435 million funding mostly residential securities down from $694 million at December 31.

We currently expect to further reduce this financing to below $300 million in the next few months through the sale of securities and by using excess cash reserves rather than repo to fund investments. Our debt to equity leverage ratio was 3.2 times at March 31, 2016.

We exclude $907 million of legacy Sequoia consolidated ABS debt from our leverage calculation, as it is non-recourse to Redwood. Leverage included $2 billion of borrowings by our FHLB member subsidiary and loans held for investment by this subsidiary increased 31% to 2.3 billion at March 31 from 1.8 billion at year-end 2015.

The weighted average maturity of these borrowings is approximately 9 years at a weighted average cost of 15 basis points per annum. That concludes my prepared remarks.

Operator, why don’t we start with the Q&A?.

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] We’ll take our first question from Bose George with KBW..

Hi, guys.

Actually the first question is just on the jumbo gain on sale margins, can you just talk about some of the factors that are driving the strength in those margins and just the outlook if you can for the next few quarters?.

Hi, Bose. First of all we want to be clear that we don't expect to be generating 150 basis points gross margins per quarter. I think a better expectation is in the 50 to 75 basis point range. We were in the 25 to 50 basis point range, combined with jumbo and conforming.

With our jumbo business we expect those margins to be on the higher side, so I think we are more comfortable with the 50 to 75 basis point guidance. I think in the first quarter there were a number of factors. There is a very strong demand from home loan buyers from banks.

There was some spread tightening later in the quarter, but overall it was on a billion or so of volume. So the goal is to continue to work towards 5 billion to 6 billion a year, the best margins we can..

Okay, great.

Actually just in terms of the margin trend so far in the second quarter is it still, as strong as you saw it in the first or is it already heading towards that 50 or 75?.

It is differentiated. So I think we continue to see really strong demand for hybrid loans. For a 30-year fixed, that market can move up-and-down pretty quickly.

So for certain aspects of it, we are able to sell and there is a lot of liquidity in other parts of the quarter, there is not, so we are going to continue to work through the 30-year fixed, but the hybrids are very strong..

Another factor Bose, and this is Marty, we will probably do a securitization transaction in the second quarter to kind of keep the wheels turning on that to generate some investments.

And then – which we think is the right decision to do, but the overall income we are going to receive or gains on those will be lower than we could do through whole loan sales..

Okay. That makes sense.

Thanks and then actually the CRT investment that you guys did in the quarter, was that pretty opportunistic or could we see it being a little more active there?.

I think we expect to be quite a bit more active there. There has been some liquidity issues in CRT, spreads moved around by 50 or more basis points in the first quarter. So from that aspect it is opportunistic with respect to [stacker]. We also participated in a J.P.

Morgan sponsored transaction in the first quarter, which we thought was a very attractive execution and we hope to do additional similar transactions if they are available going forward..

Okay, great.

Actually just one quick one on the accounting, what was the share count that you used to calculate the core income number?.

It was about 97 million..

Okay, great. Thanks..

We will go next to Brock Vandervliet with Nomura Securities..

Thanks for taking the question.

Chris, if you could just talk more about that – the JPM transaction, what led you into that position as being able to buy the subs, what you see as kind of the forward look on potential for other deals or whether that was kind of a Petri dish test if you will and may not produce others – more color on that would be great?.

And it is Marty, and I am going to respond, Brock, what we say is we found – how many more they are going to do, I don't really know. That is really up to JP Morgan’s decision, what I would say about the transaction itself though I think it is a very elegant structure. It was efficient.

It resolved several points of friction, and the next thing it is a technology that could be widely adopted by other banks. It is capital efficient from their standpoint where they end up holding liquid, highly rated securities at the top of the stack and then people like Redwood would hold the credit.

By our estimates they cut the credit enhancement cost almost in half versus guarantee fees. They no longer have to advance P&I to get consolidation accounting for GAAP where they are going to put things on at cost and reduce their mark-to-market plus the structure allows for [Indiscernible] securities.

So we don't know how many more they are going to do, but we would look forward to participating in whatever transactions there were by them or by others..

I was struck by the fact that this apparently existed for several years, why if this has been so compelling was it the risk retention rule or what kind of got this over the line?.

There was a couple of things. I mean, number one, there had still been plenty of liquidity at the banks. So, this in addition to improving our economics does provide [capital].

So some of this might be Petri dish and might be planning for the future in a world that there isn't so much excess liquidity, but also it was a way to test the level of GPs in the market.

The transaction is 75% conforming loans and to the extent it was accepted by the market in which it was it gives a much better sense of what that true credit cost from a market perspective might be..

But the elements are pretty complex. So I mean no longer advance in P&I involves the rating agencies, working through the capital efficiency and then making it read eligible, there is a lot of complexity to it, which is my guess is why it took a long time to get it done. But they accomplished it and it was successful..

That is great. Okay, I will jump back in the queue..

[Operator Instructions] We will go next to Vic Agrawal with Wells Fargo..

Hi, it is actually [Indiscernible] for Vic. Thanks for taking my call.

[Indiscernible] around the Redwood Choice program?.

Yes, Max, thanks for the question. Really as Marty said, we have been very busy working through the conforming ramp-up the past couple of quarters when we decided to wind that business down it gave us an opportunity to speed up some of our jumbo initiatives, one of which was to offer some type of expanded prime product category.

And as Marty said, we rebrand it into select, which is more of our traditional product. Some people refer to it as super prime. I have heard in the market we get very low LTVs, very high credit scores, very, very strong borrowers. The choice program is still a prime product. It is still fully documented. There is QM and non-QM aspects.

We will go up to just under 50 DTI. We will consider LTVs up to 90 FICOs in the high 600s.

All of those in some combination, so the product types don't include the most aggressive of each band, if you will, but all of those aspects we have got certain products for – and it is too early to tell at this point what the sustainable volume will be, but I can say the products that we have rolled out has been in response to very strong demand both from, our loan sellers as well as some potential whole loan buyers or investors.

So, we are excited about the new products. Hopefully in the next few quarters we'll have a better sense of what the volumes might be..

All right. Thank you very much. .

[Operator Instructions] We will take another question from Brock Vandervliet with Nomura Securities..

Thanks.

I know the guidance $1.20 to $1.50 that is on a GAAP basis, is the mid-40s run rate on your core basis now, is that representative of the earnings power as you see it at the present time?.

Hi Brock. It is Chris. The 35 to 40ish range might be a more conservative estimate. At this point we haven't published any formal guidance on core.

One of the reasons is we want to get feedback from you folks and from shareholders on how effective it is, how huge they might be and we think that what it does do is it really eliminates some of the noise, as you know, as we have transitioned towards more and more mark-to-market accounting most of our investments today are going through the P&L.

And when you think about this relatively benign credit environment the biggest driver in the market values has been changes in interest rates. So almost by association the biggest driver in our income statement has been changes in interest rates.

So it is really not reflecting the core earnings drivers and I think by backing out some of those mark-to-markets from long-term investments, and then obviously anything like restructuring charges that we don't expect to continue to incur will give us a much better sense of the real I guess core earnings of the company.

So those – we will give it a few quarters before giving anymore clear guidance, but I think having the first quarter come in a penny off of the fourth quarter makes sense to me..

Got it.

Okay, and given that the changes in kind of moving pieces that you have had should we kind of base things off your current leverage ratio, where could that kind of move to?.

Yes. The recourse leverage ratio was around 3.2x in the first quarter. That is actually probably more in line with some of our competitors today. At this point, the only thing we have said on debt is that we wanted to continue to pare down repo.

One aspect that we don't control though directly is the amount of whole loan [warehouse] debt that we incur and that fluctuates with demand. But overall that 3.2 to 4 range, and I think these earnings would be relatively consistent in that band. .

Okay, great. Thank you..

[Operator Instructions] We will go next to [Indiscernible]..

Hi guys.

A quick question, the Redwood Choice product, is that new to the marketplace or are there other people doing something similar, and no follow-up, or the second question will be the charges in the quarter, will it be more in 2Q, 3Q or most of it in 1Q, thanks a lot?.

Hi, John. The charges we think are substantially incurred at this point in the first quarter. There might be a few small items going forward, but for all intents and purposes, we currently expect that significantly all of it was expensed in the first quarter.

As far as the choice product, there has been some expanded prime products that we have seen in the market. I think one thing unique here is I think it is a fairly comprehensive product roll out. The important thing to note though is we did just roll it out. I believe it rolled out on April 18.

So it is going to take a period of time for even our sellers to be educated on the products and put them in their systems and so forth. So again hopefully we will have a better sense of traction next quarter..

And John, I would also add this should allow us to be more competitive against the big banks, where their sweet spot is kind of right down with super prime. And obviously our thing is selling service here, and with the complexity of the product and by the way, emphasize it is still prime, I think gives us some competitive advantages..

It sounds good. Thank you..

There are no further questions at this time. This concludes our conference. On behalf of management, we very much appreciate you taking the time to participate in our earnings call..