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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q4
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Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the NOV Fourth Quarter and Full Year 2023 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we will conduct a question-and-answer session and instructions will follow at that time. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

I would now like to introduce your host for today's conference, Ms. Amie D'Ambrosio, Director of Investor Relations. Ma'am, please begin..

Amie D'Ambrosio Director of Investor Relations

Welcome, everyone, to NOV's fourth quarter and full year 2023 earnings conference call. With me today are Clay Williams, our Chairman, President and CEO; and Jose Bayardo, our Senior Vice President and CFO.

Before we begin, I would like to remind you that some of today's comments are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws. They involve risks and uncertainty, and actual results may differ materially. No one should assume these forward-looking statements remain valid later in the quarter or later in the year.

For a more detailed discussion of the major risk factors affecting our business, please refer to our latest forms 10-K and 10-Q filed with the Securities and Exchange Commission. Our comments also include non-GAAP measures. Reconciliations to the nearest corresponding GAAP measures are in our earnings release available on our website.

On a US GAAP basis, for the fourth quarter of 2023, NOV reported revenues of $2.34 billion and a net income of $598 million or $1.51 per fully diluted share. For the full year of 2023, revenues were $8.58 billion and net income was $993 million.

Our use of the term EBITDA throughout this morning's call corresponds with the term adjusted EBITDA as defined in our earnings release. Later in the call, we will host a question-and-answer session. Please limit yourself to one question and one follow-up to permit more participation. Now let me turn the call over to Clay..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Amie. NOV continued its strong sales growth through the fourth quarter of 2023 with revenues of $2.3 billion, up 7% sequentially, completing a year in which the company generated $8.6 billion in sales.

Full year revenues increased 19% from 2023 versus 2022, driven by strong offshore and international demand, continued supply chain improvement and increasing uptake in the new technologies NOV has been introducing to its customers.

Fourth quarter EBITDA increased to $294 million or 12.5% of revenue, up 30 basis points from the prior quarter and up 140 basis points from the fourth quarter of last year.

Despite the higher than expected sales for the fourth quarter, EBITDA leverage was lighter than expected at 17%, falling short of our forecast due in part to continuing activity declines in North America and in part to some unexpected charges.

Revenues for North America land declined 5% sequentially, hitting our Wellbore Technology Services businesses disproportionately hard. Additionally, we had an approximately $20 million impact on EBITDA in the quarter due to the 55% devaluation in the Argentine peso in December, higher US medical costs and workman compensation insurance accruals.

Fourth quarter offshore revenue grew 7% sequentially, a large increases in manage pressure drilling, equipment sales, flexible pipe, conductor pipe and aftermarket spares for offshore rigs.

NOV’s international land revenues grew by more than 20% sequentially on stronger shipments of drill pipe, composite pipe, stimulation equipment and drilling equipment for the Middle East. The company's offshore and international revenue strength more than offset North America, leading to consolidated sequential sales growth of 7%.

Free cash flow improved significantly during the fourth quarter to $301 million.

The inflection in free cash flow signaled relief from the supply chain challenges of the first half of 2023 as additional inventory enabled higher flush year-end shipments, including strong double-digit sequential growth for the Rig Technologies segment and spare parts and drilling equipment.

While 2022 was characterized by the recovery of activity in North America, 2023 saw continuing momentum in offshore and international markets that is underpinning the steady up cycle, we believe, will continue to unfold over the next several years, Aramco's Safinaya plans notwithstanding.

Despite postponement of plans to grow production capacity to 13 million barrels per day, we still expect the Kingdom to remain quite busy as it drills to stem declines in conventional oil wells and it drills to develop unconventional gas. We expect our revenues in 2024 there to continue to grow.

Broadly speaking, rising activity in critical global offshore and international markets is leading to purchases of the tools and kit needed for our oilfield customers to execute development plans. We remain constructive in our global outlook over the next several years because there are so many areas that look so strong.

2023 saw the reentry of IOC customers into the deepwater market after a decade-long hiatus, with several basins seeing renewed energy and focus on exploration, like Namibia and Suriname, brownfield developments like Norway, West Africa, and the Gulf of Mexico, and greenfield developments like Brazil, Guyana, and Australia.

Although, we view US permitting constraints on further LNG export growth as unwise from an energy security standpoint, such a move would drive additional calls on LNG production from offshore Australia and Qatar, in our view.

Increasing offshore activity is tightening the market for floating rigs, leading to a doubling of dayrates with high-spec floaters utilizing sophisticated NOV technologies benefiting the most. Likewise, growing offshore drilling in the Arabian Gulf has materially improved utilization and day rates for jack-ups.

Despite some white space and specific rig contracts popping up in 2024 arising from the completion of older, shorter well-to-well contracts, our customers are using this idle time to accomplish maintenance and SPS surveys. They also report rising operator interest in longer three to five year term contracts.

This bodes well for future NOV rig technology demand as customers can achieve payback on incremental CapEx upgrades on their rigs, given the greater visibility in their future utilization. We are more subdued in our 2024 outlook for North America.

The euphoria of 2022 has matured into a phase of consolidation and strict capital discipline in 2023, exacerbated by continued volatility in oil prices and depressed domestic natural gas prices. I believe E&P CapEx will likely decline slightly year-over-year.

Nevertheless, North America production will remain vital to the global supply and energy security. The expected commissioning of incremental US LNG export capacity in 2025 could spark additional North American gas drilling activity later in the year to prove me wrong.

Against this market backdrop of growing offshore international markets offset by declining North American activity, NOV is posting much improved results, driven by projects aimed at reactivating and upgrading offshore rigs and significant uptake of our new advanced technology to meet operators' demands for more efficient operations.

There remains room for improvement in our profitability and return profile, and we are focused on improving our margins by executing our cost reduction plan and continuing our commitment to improve pricing where we can.

NOV's investments in technologies over the past several years have focused squarely on providing solutions that drive improved economics for our customers, utilizing new robotics and digital advancements to expand and enhance our traditional product portfolio.

We have very intentionally repositioned ourselves to support future energy investments of all kinds, with continued traction in North America and the Middle East, our edge compute, edge to cloud and cloud-based solutions are equipping drilling, intervention and completions operators on the front lines with more information to make better decisions.

The fourth quarter saw two independents adopt our new artificial intelligence edge compute technology to identify critical downhole events like washouts hours earlier than traditional methods. We are also seeing gains in our 1-click cloud data delivery and our new high-frequency data services.

In December, NOV was celebrated by a major NOC for providing high-speed data streaming from over 100 rigs from a dozen drilling contractors to enable its big data scientists and algorithms to identify and act on opportunities to drive better efficiency.

Our completions customers are also seeing the benefits of real-time interaction with aggregated field data.

We ended the year with more than 3,500 active users of our remote monitoring tools for completion operations, up 70% compared to the first half of 2023, and we are introducing new frac monitoring capabilities through our Max Edge platform this year. Overall, fourth quarter Max Edge product revenue more than tripled versus the fourth quarter of 2022.

NOV's proprietary wired drill pipe, high-speed data delivery system has seen widespread adoption in the North Sea over the past few years. And now, a major NOC in the Middle East is reporting 30% improvement in well placement on its pilot drilled last year, significantly improving well economics.

Strong results arising from better data prompted another Arabian Gulf operator to spud with the technology a few days ago, with several others planning to adopt the technology in the region later this year. We believe we are pioneering a new and better way to drill.

Wire drill pipe technology, combined with NOV's new managed pressure drilling offering, will provide unprecedented control and performance. And I believe this technology will become standard in the offshore arena in coming decades.

Better drilling performance enabled by NOV's cutters drove significant market share gains in drill bits in several regions throughout 2023. And revenue from new downhole tools grew 27% sequentially.

Our new PosiTrack torsional vibration mitigation tool completed its 100th run during the quarter, enabling a doubling of rate of penetration for a customers in Indonesia where our new Agitator ZP friction reduction tools are enabling operators to move to three-mile laterals in the Permian.

Bits, motors and MWD failures are the leading causes of expensive, unplanned trips for horizontal drillers, which has led many E&P operators to rent this equipment directly from NOV because of our exceptional reliability and performance rather than delegate the supply of these to their directional drillers as they have traditionally done.

NOV is very, very well positioned in performance drilling sector for future share gains.

Similarly, in high-temperature basins like the Haynesville and Eagle Ford, we are receiving repeat orders for our Tube-Kote-TK-340TC coating, which insulates drill pipe, and our TUNDRA MAX Mud chiller to help reduce downhole temperatures that can damage downhole electronics.

Again, operators are buying directly from NOV and are reporting fewer equipment failures and improved cost savings as a result. Leveraging our existing expertise in harsh environment drilling, we are addressing the high-temperature hard rock challenges faced in the growing geothermal market.

Our portfolio of drill bits and MWD tools, composite pipe, liner hangers and corrosion-resistant pipeliners combat the tough challenges faced in geothermal wells, and we've seen strong demand, particularly in Europe. Oil and gas producers are committed to reducing the environmental impact of their operations.

NOV's proprietary and iNOVaTHERM cuttings treatment technology is seeing strong demand, particularly in areas like Angola and the Arabian Gulf, which are tightening drill cuttings discharge requirements. Treating drill cuttings on the rig reduces the high CO2 footprint associated with shipping these to shore.

Operators are also demanding drilling contractors cut CO2 emissions, driving interest in NOV's new PowerBlade and Maestro engine management technologies. Committing to a cleaner future, operators are applying their expertise to carbon capture and storage and using NOV's deep experience in this area as well.

We secured the dehydration package for a large carbon capture and storage project in Louisiana aimed at reducing emissions from industrial processes, and we are pursuing several additional CCUS opportunities.

Our sustained investments in new products and technologies helped drive our strong topline results, as fourth quarter 2023 revenues have increased nearly 90% from the first quarter of 2021 low, which compares to the Big Three average of about 60% over the same time period, equating to approximately 26% compound annual growth rate for NOV versus 19% for the Big Three.

And we believe we have room to run. As more E&Ps try wired drill pipe Max Edge compute solutions, AI-powered optimization software and more sophisticated drilling tools and robotics. We expect our adaptation to the reality of the industry and the strong results these technologies provide will continue to drive improving top line results.

As part of NOV's repositioning of its product portfolio, we also continue to review and optimize our shareholders' capital employed across the portfolio.

We expect to divest one or possibly two businesses in the coming year and redeploy capital into higher-performing opportunities like electrical submersible pumps, which we added this week through an acquisition.

Additionally, we expect that improved cash flows in 2024 following supply chain normalization will enable us to increase our return of capital to shareholders in the coming year. In sum, NOV is well positioned to capitalize on the world's need to invest in energy of all forms.

We have a lot of work ahead of us, and I'm grateful for NOV's team and their extraordinary professionalism, their intense focus on the critical needs of our customers, the creativity and innovation they apply to technology to meet those needs and above all, their ability and willingness to get the job done.

Many thanks to all of you who are listening. With that, I will turn it over to Jose..

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thank you, Clay. NOV's consolidated revenues for the fourth quarter totaled $2.34 billion, and revenues for the full year 2023 totaled $8.58 billion, an increase of 19% or $1.35 billion from 2022. EBITDA increased 10% sequentially to $294 million, or 12.5% of sales.

As Clay mentioned, flow-through was limited in part due to larger-than-anticipated year-end adjustments to our medical and workers' comp accruals and the devaluation of the Argentine peso. For the full year, EBITDA increased 47% to $1 billion, or 11.7% of sales.

During the fourth quarter, we recorded $55 million in other items primarily related to a voluntary early retirement program.

Additionally, NOV's effective tax rate was favorably impacted by the release of $485 million in valuation allowances resulting from the company's assessment of the carrying value of its deferred tax assets and future projections of taxable income. We estimate that our tax rate for 2024 will be approximately 26%.

Cash flow from operations totaled a healthy $377 million in the fourth quarter, supported by a reduction in working capital, but partially offset by $42 million in cash severance charges associated with the voluntary early retirement program and other restructuring-related actions.

Capital expenditures totaled $76 million in the fourth quarter, and when netted against cash flow from operations, resulted in $301 million in free cash flow. During 2024, we expect to generate free cash flow in excess of 50% of EBITDA with a seasonal use of cash in the first quarter and steadily improving cash flow through the remainder of the year.

Our capital allocation hierarchy remains the same as it has been. First and foremost, we prioritized compelling organic investment opportunities, which historically provide us with the greatest risk-weighted returns.

As Clay discussed, the new products that we've recently introduced are gaining rapid adoption in the market, and we plan to accelerate our build-out of these offerings. As a result, we expect to increase our capital expenditures in 2024 to approximately $330 million.

We continue to take portfolio management approach to capital allocation, and we'll invest in businesses at compelling valuations where we can leverage our core competencies, manufacturing capabilities, global distribution infrastructure, digital platforms, and world-class R&D facilities.

An example of this is the very recent acquisition of Extract, a leading provider of artificial lift technologies and services. We'll also look to divest businesses where we are not the best owner. And as Clay mentioned, plan to do so for one or two businesses in 2024.

With the cash flow guidance I provided, it's also worthwhile to reiterate Clay's previous comments that we remain committed to returning excess capital to our shareholders and that we anticipate being able to increase the return of capital later this year.

Next, I'll walk through our historical segment results then provide our outlook based on our new segment structure, Energy Products and Services and Energy Equipment.

To help investors understand the change and update their models, we've provided a diagram illustrating the changes in our reporting segments and five years of pro forma financial data on our Investor Relations' website and in an 8-K we filed this morning. Moving on to segment results.

Our Wellbore Technologies segment generated $824 million in revenue during the fourth quarter, an increase of $25 million or 3% compared to the third quarter and 8% compared to the fourth quarter of 2022.

Exceptionally strong year-end shipments of drill pipe and managed pressure drilling equipment, along with healthy drilling activity levels in international and offshore markets more than offset a softening North American market.

EBITDA was $160 million or 19.4% of revenue, with soft flow-through due to a less favorable mix and operations that were disproportionately affected by the increase in employee benefit costs and the devaluation of the Argentine peso. Our Downhole Tools business reported a modest increase in revenue and EBITDA.

Strong year-end drilling motor and fishing tool packages sales into Asia and Sub-Saharan Africa along with higher rental activity and service equipment sales in the Middle East drove a solid increase in Eastern Hemisphere revenues, while sales in North America decreased 1% against a 4% decline in drilling activity.

Our M/D Totco business posted a high single-digit revenue increase to achieve another quarterly record high revenue level. The sequential increase was primarily due to growth from its core drilling surface data system sales and rentals, driven by strong activity in the Middle East and Far East.

Surface data system rentals remained stable in North America despite the lower rig count. Revenues from our eVolve wired drill pipe drilling optimization services decreased slightly due to early completion of two North Sea projects, which we expect will resume in early 2024.

Further expansion of eVolve wired drill pipe services and accelerating rate of adoption of our Max products further underscores NOV's continued success in developing industry-leading digital solutions that Clay discussed.

Our ReedHycalog drill bit business posted a mid-single-digit percent sequential decrease in revenues during the fourth quarter, largely due to softening drilling activity in North America.

After three quarters of growing US revenues through market share gains, the 20% year-on-year decline in drilling activity finally prevented the unit's revenues from grinding higher.

Despite the challenges in North America, the business partially offset these declines with solid gains in several Middle Eastern countries, including Turkey, Qatar, and Kuwait.

Additionally, the business expects to return to its growth trajectory in the first quarter with a rebound in Canadian drilling activity and continued strength in the Middle East and North Africa. Our Tuboscope Pipe Inspection and Coating business realized a low single-digit sequential decrease in revenue during the fourth quarter.

Inspection revenues were impacted by the continued rig activity declines in North America, the currency devaluation in Argentina, and a decrease in product sales in the Far East, partially offset by improved activity in Mexico, Europe, and the Middle East.

Revenue from the unit's coating operation declined on lower sleeve shipments and lower pipe coating volumes in the Eastern Hemisphere, partially offset by improved activity in the Middle East and Mexico. Despite lower drilling activity, US coating revenues and volumes were flat and backlog remained strong.

Our Grant Prideco drill pipe business realized strong top line growth with flush shipments following supply chain normalization, permitting the unit to achieve its highest revenue levels since the first quarter of 2015. A more favorable offshore and international sales mix that drove average pricing higher also contributed to the sequential growth.

New orders increased sharply from low levels in the third quarter and were weighted toward the offshore and Western Hemisphere customers.

Unfortunately, the strong bookings take a few quarters to convert into revenue, and we expect lower volumes and a less favorable sales mix to result in a sharp revenue decline in the first quarter for our Grant Prideco business.

Our WellSite Services business delivered strong sequential growth in revenue during the fourth quarter, driven by sizable year-end shipments of managed pressure drilling equipment and strong demand for our solids control offerings.

The revenue gains were partially offset by the currency devaluation and reduced solids control activity in Latin America.

While the strong capital equipment deliveries are not expected to repeat in the first quarter, we expect strong sales for both our solids control and MPD offerings to return later in the year in key offshore markets, including Brazil, Mexico and Guyana as well as in strategic international land markets, such as the Middle East.

Our Completion & Production Solutions segment generated revenue of $803 million in the fourth quarter of 2023, a 6% sequential increase and a 9% improvement compared to the fourth quarter of 2022. EBITDA was $86 million or 10.7% of sales, representing a healthy flow-through of 44% compared to the third quarter.

We continue to see strong demand from international and offshore markets, pushing orders up 28% sequentially to $676 million, representing a book-to-bill of 132% and the highest level of orders since 2014. Backlog at year-end was $1.82 billion, up 12% sequentially and 14% year-over-year.

Our Intervention & Stimulation Equipment business posted an upper single-digit sequential increase in revenue with solid EBITDA flow-through. The unit benefited from flush year-end deliveries in all major product lines following supply chain normalization. Pressure pumping revenues improved on higher pump and blender deliveries.

Coiled tubing sales increased with the delivery of a new unit, several support trailers and nitrogen units. And wireline improved with strong deliveries into Latin America and the Middle East. The business also posted strong bookings, which improved 71% sequentially, resulting in a 154% book-to-bill.

Despite the softening North American market impacting shorter-cycle products like coiled tubing strings and aftermarket spares and services, we saw strong demand for capital equipment orders to close out the year.

While much of the demand is coming from the Middle East, Latin America, and Asia-Pacific regions, service intensity is only increasing in North America, and the wear and tear continues to drive attrition and the need to replace equipment.

During the fourth quarter, we booked a replacement DGB frac fleet for a customer in the US and continue to have active discussions with customers regarding additional DGB and e-frac spreads. Despite strong orders in backlog, we expect Q1 revenues to decline following flush year-end shipments.

Our Subsea flexible pipe business posted a strong finish to the year with solid revenue growth, healthy EBITDA flow-through and strong bookings.

Throughout 2023, the business unit continued to work through some lower-margin projects but produced its highest footage of pipe in its history, and our discipline to hold out for better pricing is being rewarded with strong bookings at highly accretive margins.

The business unit posted a book-to-bill of 147%, and we also expect strong bookings in the first quarter. Although, we still have lower-margin projects in our backlog and anticipate a sequentially less favorable mix with lower volumes in the first quarter, we expect the business unit's margins to steadily improve throughout the course of 2024.

Our XL Systems conductor pipe business achieved significant revenue growth during the quarter with strong shipments to both the Gulf of Mexico and offshore West Africa.

While we expect a sharp sequential decline in first quarter revenues, we expect the unit's results to improve through 2024 with increasing exploration and development activity in most offshore regions.

Our Process and Flow Technologies business experienced a modest drop in revenue after a very strong third quarter from our Wellstream Processing operations. Despite the decline in revenues, margins improved slightly with higher margin backlog continuing to displace less favorable projects.

Bookings increased 29% sequentially and included orders for a monoethylene glycol module and a sulfate removal unit for projects in the North Sea. Additionally, we were awarded a contract to provide a CO2 dehydration package for a super majors carbon capture and storage project on the Gulf Coast, which will capture 800,000 tons of CO2 annually.

These project awards demonstrate NOV's continued leadership in gas and liquid processing technology and capabilities. Our Fiberglass business unit posted flat sequential revenue with improved demand from oil and gas, chemical/industrial and marine sectors offsetting declines in revenue from the wastewater sector and in fuel handling product sales.

EBITDA improved due to a more favorable sales mix. Demand remains strong for our Fiberglass business, and we continue to realize solid growth from multiple countries in the Middle East, where we're increasing our capacity to better serve the region.

In North America, we received an order from an operator for 11,000-foot of 8-inch composite spoolable DuraFlex pipe, which is the largest order we have ever received for this product. We continue to make inroads into the semiconductor market and received an order to supply a large tank farm for a major new semiconductor fabrication facility.

Additionally, we are realizing more opportunities to provide our lightweight corrosion-resistant Bondstrand solutions for ballast systems and FPSOs, leaving the business well positioned to capitalize on growing offshore activity.

Our Rig Technologies segment generated revenues of $766 million in the fourth quarter, an increase of $80 million or 12% compared to the third quarter and 24% compared to the fourth quarter of 2022.

The strong growth was primarily the result of large capital equipment deliveries at year-end, a higher rate of progress on projects and typical seasonal fourth quarter increase in aftermarket activities. Adjusted EBITDA improved $9 million sequentially and $21 million year-over-year to $109 million or 14.2% of sales.

EBITDA flow-through was limited by a less favorable sales mix and higher medical workers' comp-related costs. New capital equipment orders increased $36 million or 20% sequentially, totaling $214 million. Total backlog for the segment at year-end was $2.87 billion, an increase of $75 million over the prior year.

Solid offshore and international industry fundamentals continue to support the segment's aftermarket operations, which has doubled its revenue since the fourth quarter of 2021. The outlook remains positive, with customers continuing to push forward reactivation, upgrade and recertification projects.

Our total value of projects rose another $71 million, with the average size per project increasing 10% sequentially. As customers dig deeper into their stacks for reactivation and as the broader rig fleet continues to age, the size and scope of projects continue to increase.

This growth in service and repair work more than offset a small decline in spare part bookings, where an understandable decline in orders from the US was mostly offset by increased orders from the Middle East and Asia.

Continued improvement in on-time deliveries from our vendors has enabled better execution for more manufacturing facilities, allowing us to continue to chip away at the backlog of orders in both our spare parts and capital equipment operations and better manage our inventory levels.

A meaningful improvement in casting deliveries from our vendors helped increase our ability to manufacture key product components, contributing to a sizable increase in shipments of top drives, BOPs and Iron Roughnecks for our customers.

The outlook for rig capital equipment continues to improve in international and offshore markets, particularly in the Middle East, where activity is grinding higher, driving incremental demand for equipment orders.

We're seeing a growing number of opportunities to upgrade rigs in the Middle East and North Africa, with operators pushing for contractors to update DC rigs to AC power systems and improve mechanization.

While we expect demand from North America to remain soft until excess equipment capacity in our customers' yards is absorbed, we're capitalizing on opportunities to support upcoming drilling projects in Alaska and continue to gain traction in the Lower 48 land markets with automation upgrades.

Despite the increase in project costs from higher interest rates and inflation, the economics of offshore wind remain attractive in many regions of the world outside of North America.

We and our customers still see a sizable shortfall in vessel capacity needed for projects that have been sanctioned, and we're continuing to have promising conversations with multiple contractors.

While new WTIB orders have been delayed, we expect a couple of projects will move forward later this year, and we continue to capitalize on other investments required to build out key infrastructure for offshore wind power development.

During the fourth quarter, we received an order for a large interconnector cable lay system and crane from a key European provider of power transmission cables.

The order bookings marks our second order for a large power transmission cable lay vessel, further solidifying our position as a leader in providing the key enabling technology and equipment needed for large-scale related infrastructure projects.

In addition to our prospects for additional WTIV and large transmission cable lay vessel orders, we also see opportunities to build smaller inter-array vessels, which will lay cables between wind turbines and feed into larger transmission lines.

Looking forward to the first quarter, the flush shipments we delivered in the fourth quarter, following supply chain normalization in all three segments, combined with an incrementally more cautious outlook for North America, will result in a larger than average seasonal drop in the first quarter.

We anticipate our legacy Completion & Production Solutions and Rig Technologies segments will see seasonal declines that are in line with their average over the last seven years.

However, our legacy Wellbore Technologies segment will see a greater-than-average decline, primarily due to extraordinarily strong shipments of high-spec drill pipe and MPD capital equipment that will not repeat in the first quarter, all of which points to a year-over-year increase in consolidated first quarter revenues of between 5% to 10%.

For our new Energy Products and Services segment, we expect Q1 revenues to improve in the mid-single-digit percent range year-over-year, with EBITDA flow-through in the 30% range. For our new Energy Equipment segment, we expect revenues to improve between 8% to 10% year-over-year with EBITDA flow-through in the mid-20% range.

We also expect first quarter eliminations and corporate costs to be in line with the first quarter of 2023.

For the year, we expect our consolidated company revenues from North America to decrease in the low- to mid-single-digit percent range and our revenues from international markets to grow in the low double-digits, resulting in 2024 full year revenue to improve 4% to 8% year-over-year.

We also expect continued margin improvement through a combination of improving quality of our backlog and our cost-out program to result in full year EBITDA flow-through in the mid-30% range. With that, we'll now open the call to questions..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And our first question comes from the line of Arun Jayaram with JPMorgan Securities. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Arun Jayaram

Yes, good morning, gentlemen. I wanted to get your thoughts on -- you gave us some outlook comments on 1Q. But Clay, you mentioned, revenue growth for NOV has been really, really strong relative to the Big 3, yet margin gains have lagged.

And so I wanted to see if you could give us thoughts on how margins could trend in 2024, just given how the revenue uptick has been quite strong? And perhaps you can give us a sense of what type of margins do you see in your backlog versus what you printed in 2023, which I think you did a 12.5% EBITDA margin consolidated in 4Q, just under 12% for the full year?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it's a good question, Arun. And I appreciate it. Obviously, we've been very focused on margins and leverage here for quite some time. Taking a lot of costs out since 2019, and more planned for -- as we get into 2024.

But we faced a lot of headwinds with respect to supply chain disruptions more so than, I think, anybody else in oilfield services along with inflation. And so a lot of kind of headwinds against our battle to push margins up.

Nevertheless, we've made good progress, made good progress again in 2023 when margins in the first quarter were a touch below 10% and finishing up, as you point out, at 12.5% EBITDA margins in Q4. Looking forward to 2024, we expect that to continue. The normalization of supply chain is going to help a lot.

Inflation appears to be calming down a bit, at least here in the United States, and I think that's going to help a lot. We've been adding accretive work to our backlogs. We ended up with some large frame agreements and things that were signed in the depths of the pandemic that inflation took a much bigger toll on.

And so we're quarter-by-quarter working through that stuff. And so I think that all points to improving margin performance as we kind of work our way through 2024. The other part of my answer would be around some of the new products and technologies and things that we have going on.

You're -- I know very familiar with what we're doing in renewables, for instance, with these new products and technologies. So there's a lot of -- and it's not terribly material overall, but it does add up a lot of sort of start-up costs around things that we're doing in carrying. And for instance, our Keystone Tower Systems business.

Very excited about that. It could be hugely transformational in the wind tower space. But there are quarter-by-quarter start-up costs that we carry with that. So, nevertheless, it's not lost on us. We can do better on leverage and margins. Very focused on that.

And it all starts with the top line, and now we're focused on translating that really strong top line growth that we have been putting up into better profitability for our shareholders..

Arun Jayaram

Great. My follow-up, Clay, you mentioned that you may be shedding one to two businesses. And you also announced an acquisition of Extract, I guess, after the quarter closed.

Maybe just some thoughts on the portfolio repositioning? And how does this -- how do these moves impact your thoughts on return of capital later this year? Increasing that?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, again, with stronger -- or stronger outlook for cash flow in 2024 and a much higher conversion rate of EBITDA to free cash flow, I think we're going to have more options available to do both return capital to shareholders as well as act on some interesting opportunities we see developing out there. We continually review our portfolio.

We continually remain engaged in looking at acquisition opportunities. But we've actually been pretty quiet on that front. I don't think we closed anything in 2023, despite looking at almost three dozen different opportunities.

Only one of those -- or actually two of those translated into acquisitions here, Extract being one, and we expect to close another here in a couple of days.

And what we see there are businesses that fit very, very well with us strategically that we can get a good value that are immediately accretive to EBITDA and cash flow and earnings for our shareholders.

And then on the other hand, we also have businesses that have been in our portfolio, they are terrific businesses, but frankly, might be worth more to someone else than what they're capitalized at given NOV's multiple, if that makes sense.

And so we're looking at the value of the individual components in our portfolio, and we've got one process underway that we're pretty excited about. And we think net-net, buying low and selling high is good for our shareholders..

Arun Jayaram

Great. Thanks a lot..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

You bet. Thanks, Arun..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is going to come from the line of Jim Rollyson with Raymond James. Your line is open. Please go ahead..

Jim Rollyson

Hey, good morning guys..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Jim..

Jim Rollyson

If I did my math right from what Jose said on revenue growth and incremental margins, kind of implies your range of EBITDA margins for 2024 full year somewhere in the mid-12% range to almost the mid-13% range. Curious, in the recent past, you guys have talked about getting a 15% EBITDA margin number possibly sometime in 2024.

Is that pared back maybe because of the kind of what's happening in North America not being quite as strong as maybe everyone was thinking here three to six months ago? Just kind of curious how you think of margins stepping up between higher-margin backlog and obviously, the cost moves that you're making as we progress through this year and into next, actually.

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Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes. You said 15, I think, more accurately we said mid-teens. But incrementally, since that call, as we were, I think, pretty clear in our comments this morning, we're incrementally just a little more cautious on North America now calling for expenditure -- E&P CapEx to be down in 2024 versus 2023. And so that's certainly shading our view.

Again, I'll stress, I hope we're wrong. I hope natural gas fuels some additional drilling here later in the year. But that's certainly influencing our exit margins at this point. But the thing is, Jim, we got a long way to go before we get to the end of the year. And we're going to continue to work to maximize margins, whatever the market gives us.

And so that's really our focus. .

Jim Rollyson

Yes. No, I'm trying to make sure that I was understanding the components there. And then just as a follow-up, you spent a bit of time talking about your edge products on the AI side, and it sounds like that's actually gaining quite a bit of traction.

Any sense of magnitude of how meaningful is that to NOV as a whole? And how you're thinking about that from a growth rate perspective, given the--.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it's a great question, Jim, and I'm very excited about it. I'm going to steer clear of quantifying just yet. These are all new products we've been introducing, some just this past quarter.

But the approach that we've had for the past few years here has been to develop our Max Edge platform as a corporate resource and enable our business units to develop products off of that. So, we're not reinventing that wheel.

And what we have come up with is a very robust platform that facilitates the Internet of Things and edge computing, obviously, a lot of interest in that across the producer space. And a lot of application of that platform to products that we offer through several different business units at NOV, and there's a lot more to come.

And so within the drilling world, pleased to be celebrated by one of the major Middle Eastern national oil companies, as I mentioned, for streaming data from 100 rigs at a much higher rate than their previous service provider.

In the completion space, our Max Completion is gaining a lot of interest amongst pressure pumpers and their customers in enabling more optimization of frac jobs. We're also continuing to improve that product. And so 3,500 -- more than 3,500 users now, and it's growing pretty dramatically.

And then there are several other areas where we're using that in conjunction with artificial intelligence to drive better results.

So, our KAIZEN drilling optimization program, our new drilling beliefs and analytics, which has been, as -- I think I mentioned in my prepared remarks was adopted by a couple of large independents shortly after our introduction just a couple of months ago. And so really pleased with how all of this is going..

Jim Rollyson

Yes. Understood. Sounds exciting..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Jim..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is going to come from the line of Ati Modak with Goldman Sachs. Your line is open, please go ahead..

Ati Modak

Hi, good morning guys..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Good morning..

Ati Modak

You mentioned some divestiture plans.

Can we get some more color on what the size of those proceeds could look like? And how should we think about the nature of those asset sales?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

We prefer not to disclose anything more, other than we think this is prudent. We think this is prudent stewardship of our capital and see an opportunity to reposition, adding a product line and then capitalizing on the fact that others value another product line more highly than us. And so I'm kind of just going to leave it at that..

Ati Modak

Okay, got it. And then you provided a range for your revenue growth for the full year.

Can you help us understand the drivers of the low and high end there and the subsequent impact on EBITDA? How should we think about the drivers?.

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. Ati, it's Jose. Yes, really, the way that we're looking at it, provide the guidance by sort of major region, North America versus international. And just to repeat it because I know it's hard to catch everything during the course of the call.

We said low to mid-single-digit percent range for North America and for international markets, low double-digits. And so those are percentages that I would apply generally across the segments to sort of get to a notional range of where we think the revenues will be for each of the three segments.

And basically, those ranges are a little bit more optimistic than what we expect will occur in the marketplace from an E&P CapEx standpoint.

So, what we're generally saying is that we think we will continue to outpace the rate of global spend due to all the things that Clay highlighted related to the technology innovation that's continuing to gain more and more traction out there and the positioning that we have, frankly, in the higher growth regions of the world.

I also said that the EBITDA flow through, we expect to be in the mid-30% range. So, a step up from kind of where we have been. As we continue to get a better quality of mix in our backlog, better pricing and also some of the cost save -- the effects of cost savings that we've been working diligently to push through the system.

So, that's sort of it in a nutshell..

Ati Modak

Thank you. I'll turn it over..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Ati..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is going to come from the line of Doug Becker with Capital One. Your line is open, please go ahead..

Doug Becker

Thanks. I didn't catch any update on the cost-out program, the $75 million.

Just -- any update on how that played into the fourth quarter and expectations as we go through this year?.

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Yes, Doug. Yes, as you heard in the commentary, and I think in the press release as well, the major initial catalyst for our cost savings program is really the -- we start with the voluntary early retirement program and also the restructuring of the segment structure. So, going from the three segments down to the two segments.

So, all of that really just happened and just got underway. So, very minimal impact from our cost savings efforts through Q4. Expect a little bit in Q1, but really expect to see that gain steam during the remainder of 2024..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Another piece of that, too, is the closure of facilities. So, we just closed a couple of facilities in South America and Europe as well. And so those savings will be flowing in a little -- midyear or so..

Doug Becker

Got it.

And no change to the $75 million?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

No, I think we're on track for that..

Doug Becker

Got it. And then, Clay, you mentioned still expect growth in Saudi Arabia.

Just trying to get any context here, have your internal expectations changed given the renewed -- and then just how do you think about 2025 or 2026, if you end up having fewer jack-ups working offshore Saudi Arabia?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it's a good question. Let me caveat my answer by saying I don't -- certainly don't want to speak on behalf of our good customer, Aramco, and I think we'll be seeing more about this in coming weeks. With that caveat, what we think -- and I'll be there a week after next in the Kingdom.

What we think they are referring to is really around probably the FID of Safinaya, which is a very large offshore field development that they have not yet FID'd. It's north of $20 billion. And so it doesn't really impact 2024.

With respect to 2025 and 2026, I think even without Safinaya, the Kingdom would continue to grow revenues because they continue to press ahead with development drilling to offset declines of conventional oil wells to add production to existing offshore fields that they've already FID'd to add gas production, which is a critical strategic priority for the Kingdom to support domestic gas production and move forward with their unconventional Jafurah development.

And so that all adds up to be, I think, a region that is going to continue to grow for the next few years, probably several years in the absence of one or two large offshore fields that get postponed a bit. So, we're still very bullish on the outlook for the Kingdom.

And in fact, just yesterday, won an award for a nonmetallic liner -- lined steel tubing business for our Tuboscope plant there in the Kingdom. And really across our portfolio, foresee continued activity supporting all that other work that's going on there.

With respect to the jack-ups, just to level set for everybody, they've dramatically grown their jack-up drilling fleet going from about 50 rigs on up to I think about 78 or 80 or so are turning to the right, and then there's another dozen or so that are under contract to come online.

So, you add all that up, it's about 91 jack-ups, up from about 50 not long ago. So, a big, big step-up in drilling activity. Those are new contracts. Good rigs. We're working efficiently. I don't know precisely what their announcement -- how it might impact that. But at this point, we're all kind of speculating.

But nevertheless, we continue to support all those rigs and continue to remain active on some that are contracted that we're reactivating to put into that market..

Doug Becker

Thank you very much..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thanks Doug..

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Doug..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question is going to come from the line of Kurt Hallead with Benchmark. Your line is open, please go ahead..

Kurt Hallead

Hey, good morning, everybody..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hi, Kurt..

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Good morning, Kurt..

Kurt Hallead

Interesting time as always, right?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

No doubt..

Kurt Hallead

Yes. So look, I -- the -- your commentary around AI and the growth and utilization of that across multiple functions really definitely caught my attention, and I know that still kind of early stages. But maybe we've been doing this a long time, Clay.

Is the adoption rate -- what's your sense on the adoption rate as we go forward? Is the industry on board with this and you think they're going to accelerate it? And then just couple that with the value proposition as you see it evolving..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, good question, Kurt, and I appreciate it. I think the outlook here is really good. It's early days, I'll stress, a lot of these are new products being introduced, but the attention they're getting is good. In fairness, it's a crowded space. There's a lot of people aiming at stuff like this.

And it's sort of sometimes challenging to sort of rise above the competitive field. I think in the products that we've introduced, though, we've got really good traction because we are demonstrating value.

A number of these, we've developed with customer engineers, oil and gas company engineers that have been seconded to us for a period of time to sit by our developer and say, hey, add this, subtract this. This is really what I want.

So it's a lot of a lot of dialogue with our customers around what do you really want and need and how can we add value? And I think that's helped us land on products that really do add a lot of value.

The other thing to think about here is the fact that a lot of these digital products, like, for instance, our NOVOS operating system, which is now operating on something like 125 rigs globally, both land and offshore, it really provides kind of a digital foundation for follow-on sales. And rig is a good example.

Both land and offshore, our NOVOS operating system facilitates our new ATOM RTX rig automation package that we're now -- is working on a rig in South America offshore. We will -- we've got a customer that will be spudding this quarter onshore. We've got another one that's using it at their training facility.

And it really, I think, is going to be very transformative, a lot of interest in this technology. Not just by drilling contractors, by the operators who have seen it who say, wow, this is something that's dramatically better. And so this digital family of products that we're introducing aren't being launched in isolation.

They really sort of tie in to our more traditional product lines. And I think they facilitate future sales in those areas. And so there's a lot of pull-through that comes with them as well. But on the whole, I'd say, very proud of what our team has been able to accomplish very robust computing capabilities on the edge.

And by the way, edge in the oilfield is a lot tougher than a lot of other edges around the industrial space because rigs work in really remote areas and spotty communications are kind of the norm. They always have been throughout my career.

And so we've done a lot to address that and bring the power of big data analytics, artificial intelligence algorithms to oilfield operations. And so I think a lot more to come..

Kurt Hallead

Just a follow-up just in the context of the pause that the Saudis are putting on the expansion of the Safinaya and Manifa fields.

Do you think the -- what do you think is there more likely to do? Do you think you're going to pause their new build program? Do you think they're just going to move forward with the new build program and let some of these other rigs roll off contract? What's your instinct telling you?.

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Well, there's two new build programs. One is the land rig program, which is -- should be unaffected by that. They work in the offshore. And we're continuing to execute those rigs very well and understand they're operating really well. And the other is offshore.

And a few years ago, they announced their plans to build a total of 20 jack-ups for the Kingdom. Since then, they've been constructing a shipyard in Ras Al-Khair, next door to our facility. And I think the contracting there has been somewhat gated by the progress on that shipyard to execute future work there.

But for right now, I'd say -- the short answer to your question, I don't know. We're still optimistic they're going to move forward with their plans, but I'm going to, again, let Aramco speak for Aramco..

Kurt Hallead

Of course, yes. Got it. Hey, thanks. I appreciate the insight..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

You bet. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. And our last question is going to come from the line of Stephen Gengaro with Stifel. Your line is open, please go ahead..

Stephen Gengaro

Thanks. Good morning everybody..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hi Stephen..

Stephen Gengaro

So, the re-segmentation chart, Jose, do I need a protractor? Like is this to scale?.

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

You might need a magnifying glass for the table. But no, the chart is not -- is obviously not to scale. But just wanted to make it really clear as to which business units went into which segment. So, hopefully, that's a little bit helpful. And then with the tables, we -- I wanted to give you guys plenty of data to tune up your model.

So, five years of pro forma information on the second page of that, if you haven't yet gone through that. .

Stephen Gengaro

Great. It's very helpful. So, when we think about the free cash flow expectations and then just kind of combine that with sort of return on capital plans, should we think -- I guess, two parts to the question, one on working capital.

Should we think about that drifting kind of back towards historical norms? And then how do you think about kind of what's going to drive the decision when it's maybe time to accelerate a return of capital program?.

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Yes. So, from a free cash flow and working capital perspective, first of all, we were very pleased to finally turn the corner in Q4 and generate really healthy free cash flow. I think that's reflective of the potential that we have in 2024 and beyond.

Historically, this company has been low capital intensity business, capitalizing on a high capital intensity industry, which tends to lead to very strong free cash flow.

And that's our expectations going forward, notwithstanding Q1, which is, as you know, is almost always a good cash consumption quarter due to the seasonality of the payments that really impacts us in Q1.

So, the trajectory of the cash flow, use of cash in Q1, and then steady improvement in terms of free cash flow generation through the remaining three quarters of the year, due in part to the improvement in profitability that we've had to-date, more of that expected into 2024 and beyond.

And then also continued progression in terms of normalizing our working capital. So, we finished the year at roughly 29% working capital as a percentage of revenue run rate. That will take a step back in the first quarter due to what we just talked about, and then we should get back to steady improvement.

And my expectation is the normalization process will take some time. But really sort of as we get into the -- to the end of 2024, I would expect our working capital as a percentage of revenue run rate to improve, call it, 100 to 200 basis points versus where we are right now.

And so put all that together, it presents a pretty good picture for free cash flow in 2024. And as we talked about in the prepared commentary, we're optimistic about increasing our return of capital as we get further into 2024. So, as we've said before, first and foremost, we wanted to get the balance sheet metrics where they should be, we're there.

Then we need to get cash balances and more importantly, outlook related to resiliency and consistency in terms of our expectations in free cash flow. And so we think -- putting all that together, it's probably a midyear-type timeframe where we really look at leveraging up that return of capital.

But that's been an ongoing discussion with our Board over the last several quarters, and it certainly will be over the next few quarters..

Stephen Gengaro

Okay, great. No, that's great color. Thank you, Jose. That's all for me..

Jose Bayardo Senior Vice President & Chief Financial Officer

Thanks Stephen..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Great. Thanks Stephen..

Operator

Thank you. And I would now like to turn the conference back to Clay Williams for closing remarks..

Clay Williams Chairman, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Michelle, and thanks to all of you for joining us today. We look forward to reviewing our first quarter results in April. And I hope everyone has a nice day. Thank you. Bye-bye..

Operator

This concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..

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