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Communication Services - Entertainment - NYSE - US
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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2021 - Q1
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Operator

Good morning. My name is Samaria, and I'll be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Madison Square Garden Entertainment Corp. Fiscal 2021 First Quarter Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode.

After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. I would now like to turn the call over to Ari Danes, Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir..

Ari Danes Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Financial Communications & Treasury

Thank you. Good morning, and welcome to MSG Entertainment's fiscal 2021 first quarter earnings conference call. Our President, Andy Lustgarten, will begin today’s call with an update on the company's operations. This will be followed by a review of our financial results with Mark FitzPatrick, our EVP and Chief Financial Officer.

After our prepared remarks, we will open up the call for questions. If you do not have a copy of today's earnings release, it is available in the Investor section of our corporate website..

Andy Lustgarten

Thank you, Ari, and good afternoon, everyone. We are now several months into our first full year as a standalone entertainment company. And while our business continues to be impacted by COVID-19, we are encouraged by the recent news about a vaccine and what it could mean for our future reopening.

And when that day comes, we are confident that the strength of our assets and the pent-up demand for live entertainment will drive a quick recovery of our business and that we are well-positioned to create long-term value for shareholders. Until then we are also confident that our company can navigate the current environment.

Our focus this fiscal year is on a number of key initiatives that we believe will position MSG Entertainment for long-term success.

These include preserving our company's strong liquidity position, making continued progress on the construction of MSG Sphere in Las Vegas and ensuring we're able to reopen our doors quickly to artists and guests when the time is right. Our five entertainment venues have been closed since mid-March due to the pandemic.

Since then our top priority has been maintaining the strength of our balance sheet to protect our core business. On our last earnings call, we noted that we were actively pursuing debt financing and we've delivered on that goal, completing a $650 million raise.

This transaction coming at a time when our venues are closed, underscores the value of our assets and the expectation that we will bounce back quickly once we're able to reopen..

Mark FitzPatrick

Thank you, Andy and good afternoon everyone. Today, I will review our first quarter financial results and then provide more details on our recent debt financing and our go-forward pro forma liquidity position. .

Ari Danes Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Financial Communications & Treasury

Thank you, Mark.

Can we open up the call for questions please?.

Operator

Our first question will come from Brandon Ross with LightShed Partners. Please proceed with your question..

Brandon Ross

Hello, everyone. First wanted to ask, what you think your post-pandemic cost structure is going to look like.

As you guys went through and cut I think it was $100 million of run rate expenses, did you find opportunities to maybe make some permanent reductions and run leaner in the future?.

Mark FitzPatrick

Thanks, Brandon. It's Mark. I'll take that one. As Andy noted, we did take out -- did take significant actions this summer to reduce our expenses by $100 million. We strongly believe that our business will bounce back quickly once we can safely reopen our venues.

And therefore, we do expect some expenses will return as we ramp up the business to full operations. However, we've been using this opportunity and this time to think about how we can more efficiently operate our business and permanently reduce our expense base.

And while we don't have -- while we do believe some of the $100 million in cost savings will be permanent, at this stage it's too early to try and quantify it for you..

Brandon Ross

Okay. Got it. And maybe another one for you Mark. You upsized your debt deal from $500 million to $650 million even though you have plenty of liquidity and a fairly low burn rate. A couple of things.

One is can you remind us of what the interest rate was on that debt? And is there anything to read into you fortifying your balance sheet further?.

Mark FitzPatrick

Sure. Currently the interest is at about 7% given where LIBOR is. I think we just took advantage of the strong investor demand and take advantage of that to upsize the facility. We believe it reflects the strength of our assets and the belief that we can -- when we're able we can return safely to reopen our venues the business will bounce back quickly.

And while we are very encouraged by the recent vaccine news, we thought it would be prudent to further bolster our balance sheet to protect our core business in these uncertain times..

Brandon Ross

Great. And then just one more. Las Vegas Sands is supposedly hoping to sell its Vegas assets, I guess taking the Las Vegas out of the sands.

What are the change of control provision look like on your Sphere agreement with them?.

Andy Lustgarten

Hey, Brandon, it's Andy. So really simple. We -- Sands has been a great partner. I don't -- we can't speculate on what's going to happen at the business. But I can tell you the ground lease has no change of control and we don't expect -- the agreements will not be affected by ownership..

Brandon Ross

Thank you guys..

Operator

Your next question will come from John Janedis with Wolf Research. .

John Janedis

Thank you. I guess you guys kind of led to this one.

But on a practical level, what does the vaccine news over the past week or so actually mean? Does it impact when you can start selling tickets or host events at the Garden? And to what extent do local governments dictate that time line?.

Andy Lustgarten

Hey, John. So obviously, we're very excited by the vaccine news. It's -- it makes us feel bullish about the future. And -- but obviously, we need to be a little bit -- we need to see it in action and we need to get the venues up and running.

It will be -- the most important thing to us obviously is the health of our -- both our patrons, our artists, our players and our employees, so we're going to have to be very safe. And we're going to -- and we do and we will continue to work with federal, local both New York City and state to work on an opening plan.

But what I can tell you also is that we're feeling really good about -- and as I mentioned earlier, our back half of the calendar is going to be great and so just a question of when exactly those doors open and we can safely re-welcome our fans back in the building..

John Janedis

That's helpful.

Is there a limit in terms of the lead time you need for going on sale for ticketing?.

Andy Lustgarten

I mean we've had events go on sale and -- within the same week. Now obviously that's a rarity. I think the bigger question is for the touring business that's generally a longer-dated type of event. You have to book it to scale it up. You have to get the artist on tour and prepare the tour. So, that takes a few months to roll through.

But we're a little different than a typical venue because we do have one-off events. We do have artists that we work directly with. And so as soon as we -- those things can happen much quicker than a typical tour, so I can't give you an exact timeline. But once we're ready to go we're going to be ready to run. .

John Janedis

Thank you..

Ari Danes Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Financial Communications & Treasury

Thanks John. We'll take one last caller..

Operator

All right. Your last question for the call will be coming from David Karnovsky with JPMorgan. Please proceed with your question..

David Karnovsky

Hi. Thank you.

Just wonder how you're thinking about the long-term impact of your return profile specifically from pension market if that sees a reduction due to events maybe shifting to a virtual footprint? And then how does that affect the Sphere and maybe how many of that would affect Las Vegas as well?.

Andy Lustgarten

So, thanks David. Look I think over the long term we're very bullish about what does Las Vegas mean in terms of -- as an entertainment market. It is one of if not the entertainment capital. And we want to be there and we feel really good about its long-term prospects.

As you know we pushed back the timing of our opening which I think favors us because it gives more time for the vaccine to flow through people to feel good about coming back together again. And we'll be there ready to open and really ready to grow with both the city and the entertainment business.

I think on the TAO side again TAO is an institution in Las Vegas and has been doing pretty well even in the current environment. So, we feel very good about the long-term prospects of Las Vegas market and our long-term business model..

David Karnovsky

Okay. And then maybe just a similar one but shifting to New York.

But would you anticipate any of your long-term shift in demand for the Christmas Spectacular as a result of changes to visitation in this region? And can you maybe say what percentage of tickets are sold to destination for us or for visitors from outside the U.S.?.

Andy Lustgarten

Sure. So, I'll say look this Spectacular has had around almost a million people a year for the last 10 years -- 10 seasons, been a holiday tradition for over 90 years. We really -- its brand has never been stronger.

Typically, those visitors come from a mix of New York City the Tristate area domestic tourism as well as international tourism and the mix changes. But we think on a long-term basis, we see the demand. I mentioned earlier we put up a -- just even a video of last year's rehearsal which had over 100 million views on Facebook.

We started to -- we don't usually start so early, but we started to sell group tickets for next year. The demand is strong and we just feel very good about the long-term health of both live entertainment and more importantly this fabulous brand..

David Karnovsky

Okay. And then maybe I'll just throw in one more as a follow-up to John's.

But can you discuss maybe the likelihood that you'll have fans in some limited capacity in NHL or NBA games either in the general arena or in suites at some point this season? Is it possible to have that even prior to kind of full vaccine distribution?.

Andy Lustgarten

It's -- look it's a difficult question to give you a straight answer as guidelines are continually changing. And currently in New York we could only have -- no one in New York is allowed to have fans and attendants even outside of New York City.

But we've been we've been very focused about how do we bring fans in both -- fans again, our players and our employees in a safe and effective manner and we're going to continue to work with local officials to try to figure out how to do that and get people in as quickly as possible. But we're going to only do that in a safe manner.

So, it's hard to give you exact timing, but we're hopeful that things are moving in the right direction. .

David Karnovsky

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

And this will conclude the Q&A portion of today's call. I would now like to turn it back over to Ari Danes for closing remarks at this time..

Ari Danes Senior Vice President of Investor Relations, Financial Communications & Treasury

Thank you all for joining us. We look forward to speaking with you on our next earnings call. Have a good day..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..

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