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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2017 - Q2
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Executives

Heather Kos - Ingredion, Inc. Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc. James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc..

Analysts

Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc. Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States) Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc. Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, we'd like to thank you for standing by and welcome to the Ingredion Second Quarter 2017 Earnings Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. Later, we'll conduct a question-and-answer session with instructions being given at that time. And, as a reminder, today's call will be recorded.

I would now like to turn the conference over to our host and facilitator, Ms. Heather Kos. Please go ahead..

Heather Kos - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning and welcome to Ingredion's second quarter 2017 earnings call. Joining me on the call this morning are Ilene Gordon, our Chairman, President and CEO; and Jim Gray, our Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. Our results were issued this morning in a press release that can be found on our website, ingredion.com.

The slides accompanying this presentation can also be found on the website and were posted a few hours ago for your convenience. As a reminder, our comments within this presentation may contain forward-looking statements. These statements are subject to various risks and uncertainties.

Actual results could differ materially from those predicted in the forward-looking statements. And Ingredion is under no obligation to update them in the future as, or if, circumstances change.

Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those discussed during today's conference call or in this morning's press release can be found in the company's most recently filed Annual Report on Form 10-K and subsequent reports on Forms 10-Q and 8-K.

During this call, we will also refer to certain non-GAAP financial measures, including adjusted earnings per share, adjusted operating income, and adjusted effective tax rates, which are reconciled to U.S. GAAP measures in Note II, Non-GAAP Information included in our press release and today's presentation appendix.

Now, I'm pleased to turn the call over to Ilene..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Thanks, Heather, and let me add my welcome to everyone joining us today. We appreciate your time and interest. I am pleased to announce Ingredion ended the quarter with solid growth in adjusted operating income and adjusted earnings per share. Volumes grew by 1%, driven by acquisition-related and specialty volumes.

The TIC Gums, Shandong Huanong and Sun Flour rice acquisition integrations are underway. We remain excited about the pipeline of projects and customer demand to these ingredients as well as synergy opportunities. Now, let's spend a moment on each region's performance in the quarter.

Operating income in North America was $181 million, up $21 million from last year. Overall volumes were up 2%, driven largely by our TIC Gums acquisition as well as organic growth in our specialty ingredients. Mexico core volumes were down for the quarter due to customer rebalancing. However, specialty ingredients sales were strong.

Continuous improvement initiatives and lower input costs continued to drive good operational efficiency throughout the region. Additionally, we lapped last year's plant maintenance, which will occur in the fall this year.

The TIC Gums integration continues as planned, further enhancing our texture capabilities and enabling us to deliver custom solutions faster to small and medium-sized customers. In South America, operating income was $4 million, down $10 million from last year.

The macroeconomic conditions continue to be challenging in the Southern Cone, especially in Argentina. Pricing actions, good cost discipline, and continuous improvement projects partially offset the temporary higher costs from the interruption of manufacturing activities in Argentina.

The new labor agreement reached on June 1, 2017, was an important organizational restructuring action to become more cost competitive. In 2017, we expect South America to maintain a tight focus on cost and network optimization, in addition to our ongoing focus on specialty growth.

For the short-term, we expect the materialization of some operating efficiencies. In the longer-term, we believe the underlying demographics are positive for the future and believe we're well-positioned to take advantage of an economic recovery, when it materializes.

Moving along to Asia Pacific, the region delivered $29 million of operating income, down less than $1 million from last year. Overall volume was up 10% versus last year and specialty sales were particularly strong in Korea and Southeast Asia.

Price/mix was affected by our decision to diversify our core customer mix and repurpose capacity to higher-margin sweetener blends. Our Shandong Huanong and Sun Flour rice business integrations are going well. Our Shandong cost synergies are on track for 2018 and the demand for our rice-based ingredients is strong.

Finally, the EMEA region reported operating income of $29 million, in line with last year. Favorable price/mix was offset by lower volumes due to Ramadan timing in Pakistan, which occurred in July of last year, and currency headwinds in Europe. I'm pleased to now turn the call over to Jim, who will spend time on our financials.

Jim?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Thank you, Ilene. Good morning, everyone. Let me start by covering the highlights of the income statement. Net sales were flat for the quarter. Higher volumes were offset by lower price/mix.

Gross profit was higher by $18 million as a result of margin expansion in North America and higher volumes from the inclusion of the TIC Gums acquisition and specialty ingredients. Reported and adjusted operating incomes were $211 million and $221 million, respectively. Reported operating income was lower than adjusted operating income by $10 million.

This difference is largely related to pre-tax restructuring charges of $6 million in Argentina for employee severances as we took action to improve efficiencies and lower our operating costs. And we had pre-tax expense of $4 million for integration and acquisition costs, including the fair value markup of acquired TIC Gums inventory.

We also recorded $1 million of non-employee related charges for the launch of a finance transformation project. We're consolidating certain transactional activities in the U.S. and Canada into a shared service center.

The purpose is to advance our finance capabilities, while setting up better leverage in our cost structure to support our strategic growth initiatives. Our reported and adjusted earnings per share were $1.78 and $1.89, respectively. Moving on to the net sales bridge, our sales were flat versus last year.

Volume and foreign exchange contributed $18 million and $2 million, respectively. This was partially offset by $18 million of unfavorable price/mix. Our price/mix change was largely driven by the pass-through of lower raw material cost.

As we look more closely by region, you can see unfavorable foreign exchange affected North America slightly, as well as EMEA, predominantly driven by the British pound. Volumes were up in North America and Asia Pacific. In North America, volume was up, driven by our TIC Gums acquisition, as well as specialty ingredients.

In Asia Pacific, volume was up, given our specialty capacity expansion. However, price/mix was down due to pass-through of lower raw material cost, as well as our decision to diversify our core customer mix in Korea.

In South America, volume was down due to the manufacturing interruption in Argentina and price/mix was down, driven by lower raw material cost pass-through. For the quarter, reported operating income increased $13 million, while adjusted operating income increased $10 million.

North America posted strong results due to margin expansion, driven by operational efficiencies, growth in acquisition and specialty-related ingredients and the lapping of last year's plant maintenance. South America operating income decreased by $10 million.

The decrease was largely a result of Argentina's difficult macroeconomic conditions and the strike in Argentina, which interrupted manufacturing and resulted in temporary higher costs. Asia Pacific was down less than $1 million and EMEA was flat despite the headwind from Ramadan timing. Corporate costs were flat for the quarter.

We'll wrap up the discussion of the quarter with earnings per share. On the left side of the page, you can see the reconciliation from reported to adjusted.

On the right side, operationally, we saw an improvement of $0.09 per share, primarily the result of volume of $0.08 per share due to acquisition and specialty-related ingredients, with a lesser benefit from foreign exchange and other income. This was offset by a margin impact of less than $0.01.

The lower margins were driven by Argentina's labor strike. Moving to our non-operational items, we recognized a benefit of $0.07 per share for the quarter. Our adjusted tax rate was lower, contributing $0.06 per share benefit. The lower tax rate was largely driven by the effect of the appreciation in the Mexican peso and resulting valuation of U.S.

dollar-denominated balances for tax purposes. Our shares outstanding reflected a per share benefit of $0.02. These benefits were offset by higher financing costs of less than $0.01. I'm going to move fairly quickly through the year-to-date figures. Net sales were up year-to-date. Higher volumes in foreign exchange more than offset lower price mix.

Gross profit was higher by $31 million as a result of margin expansion in North America and higher volumes from the inclusion of TIC Gums acquisition and organic growth in specialty ingredients. Reported and adjusted operating incomes were $406 million and $433 million, respectively.

Reported operating income was lower than adjusted operating income by $27 million. This difference is largely related to pre-tax restructuring charges of $17 million in Argentina from employee severance as we took action to improve efficiency and lower our operating costs.

And we have pre-tax expense of $10 million for integration and acquisition costs, including the fair value markup of acquired TIC Gums inventory. Our reported and adjusted earnings per share were $3.46 and $3.77, respectively. Moving on to the net sales bridge, our year-to-date sales were up versus last year.

Volume and foreign exchange contributed $94 million and $50 million, respectively. This was partially offset by $49 million of price/mix. Our price/mix was largely driven by the pass-through of lower raw material costs. As we look more closely by region, you can see unfavorable foreign exchange affected EMEA, predominantly driven by the British pound.

Volumes were up in North America, Asia Pacific and EMEA. In North America, volume was up, driven largely by our TIC Gums acquisition as well as specialty ingredients. In Asia Pacific, volume was up, given our specialty capacity expansion.

Price/mix was down 2%, largely driven by the pass-through of lower raw material cost in three of our four regions and the diversification of our core customer mix in Asia Pacific. For the year, reported operating income increased $8 million, while adjusted operating income increased $21 million.

North America posted strong results due to margin expansion, driven by operational efficiencies, growth in acquisition and specialty-related ingredients, and the lapping of last year's plant maintenance. South America operating income decreased by $13 million.

The decrease was largely a result of Argentina's difficult macroeconomic conditions and the strike in Argentina and resulting temporary higher costs. Asia Pacific and EMEA were up $1 million and $2 million, respectively. Corporate costs were flat.

Moving to the earnings per share, changes from operations saw an improvement of $0.19 per share, primarily the result of volume of $0.26 per share with a lesser benefit from foreign exchange of $0.04 and $0.02 from other income. This was offset by a margin impact of minus $0.13.

The lower margins were largely caused by South America with Argentina's difficult macro conditions and labor strike with temporary higher costs affecting the region. Moving to our non-operational changes, we recognized a benefit of $0.07 per share.

Our adjusted tax rate was lower, contributing $0.12 per share benefit for the same reasons I explained in the quarter earlier. Our shares outstanding had a per share benefit of $0.02. These benefits were offset by higher financing costs of minus $0.07 caused by a higher debt balance and higher interest rates. Turning to our guidance.

We reiterate our anticipated 2017 adjusted earnings per share range of $7.50 to $7.80. This guidance excludes acquisition-related integration and restructuring costs, as well as any potential impairment costs. We expect net sales and volumes to be up from 2016 and we expect continued growth in specialty sales.

We anticipate the impact of foreign exchange will be net neutral overall. We expect corporate expenses to be up year-over-year due to continued investments in our administrative processes to strengthen our capabilities and drive future efficiencies in our business.

We expect financing cost for the back half of the year to be in line with our financing cost during the first half due to higher interest rates on our floating rate debt and our refinanced maturities. Our adjusted effective annual tax rate is expected to be approximately 29% to 31% versus an adjusted effective rate of 29.4% in 2016.

Although we experienced a lower rate in the first half, it's important to note that the Mexican peso appreciation was the predominant driver of that lower rate. We expect total diluted weighted average shares outstanding to be in the range of $73.4 million to $73.8 million for the year. In North America, we expect net sales to be up.

For the full year, we expect operating income to be above 2016 level with improved product mix and margins.

South American net sales are expected to be flat to down versus the prior year, given the pass-through of anticipated lower raw material costs and the temporary interruption of manufacturing activities in Argentina during Q2, partially offset by favorable foreign exchange. We anticipate continued slow activity in Brazil and Southern Cone.

In Argentina, we finalized an important organizational restructuring, enabling a more cost competitive position going forward. Throughout the region, we continue to actively manage our costs to drive efficiencies and offset inflationary pressures and we continue to look at optimization opportunities.

Overall, we expect operating income in South America to be flat to down relative to 2016. Asia Pacific and EMEA should continue to deliver operating income growth. We expect the Asia Pacific business to be negatively impacted by currency headwinds associated with a stronger U.S.

dollar relative to last year, as well as the continued diversification of our core customer mix. But we expect to overcome these headwinds with continued growth in specialty ingredients and good cost management. We expect our EMEA region to have flat net sales compared to prior year.

We anticipate modest growth in the European business, fueled by our specialty ingredients portfolio. However, we expect currency headwinds to partially offset the anticipated improvement. Pakistan is expected to continue its volume growth and drive for continued efficiency gains.

We continue to monitor the political environment and potential risks to our business. Moving on to cash flow, our year-to-date cash provided by operations was $302 million. During the year, we deployed cash in the form of capital expenditures, dividends, share repurchases, and acquisitions.

Our year-to-date capital expenditures of $144 million were up $19 million from last year, primarily driven by growth and cost savings initiatives.

We expect cash from operations in 2017 to be in the range of $750 million to $800 million, which is down slightly from our previous estimate, due to the Argentina organizational restructuring and finance transformation project.

We expect to invest between $300 million and $325 million in capital around the world in 2017 to support growth, as well as cost and process improvements. Importantly, we have a proven track record of both reinvesting and returning capital to shareholders and we expect to continue this in the future as we concurrently explore M&A opportunities.

That brings my section of the presentation to a close. I'll turn it back to Ilene..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Okay. I'm pleased with our results this quarter. From a strategic perspective, our business model and blueprint for growth are working. Our momentum continues on a positive trajectory and we continue to transform the business. Our global footprint and customer diversity balance regional and sector risks.

Our innovation capabilities and portfolio of on-trend ingredients give us a competitive advantage. We continue to grow our on-trend specialty ingredients, expanding our texture, wholesome, sweetness and nutritional offerings.

And our network of Ingredion Idea Labs enables us to collaborate side by side with customers, adapting innovations from country to country, while customizing solutions to local preferences and tastes.

From our foundation of operating excellence, we continue to optimize our cost structure for the future, while investing for growth in our specialty business. With our strong balance sheet, we expect to continue deploying our capital for growth in acquisitions, as well as dividend and share repurchases to deliver excellent shareholder value.

And now, we're glad to take your questions..

Operator

Our first question will come from the line of Robert Moskow of Credit Suisse. Please go ahead..

Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Hi. Thanks for the question. Good morning, everyone..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Hi, Rob..

Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Just two quick questions. One is on the guidance, Jim. I think last quarter the guidance was a headwind for FX of $0.10 to $0.20. Now, it's neutral, but you haven't bumped up your adjusted earnings guidance for the year.

So, is that just a pass-through mechanism that was never really economic to begin with or is it something else fundamental to the business? And, I guess, the second question is what's your outlook for the pricing power that you have and the industry has in corn sweeteners going into annual negotiations in the fall? You've talked a lot about high capacity utilization and the need to return cost of capital.

Is everything pretty much consistent with that and do you feel confident that corn prices are up a little bit that the industry can pass that through?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure. I think for the first question, Rob, we had guided $0.05 to $0.15 headwind on FX prior. Now, we're more neutral. I think we look at a range of plus $0.05, minus $0.05 perhaps on that. It is really just an FX pass-through on that impact.

I think, your second question, as we think about the industry, we're really looking at the balance of utilization within the U.S. against corn wet milling and how the industry is balanced. I'd say that we're modestly positive going into the year. I think it's helpful to be watchful of corn price and the run up.

Obviously, if corn runs up and that sets a new underlying level for the price of our sweetener products to our customers, that creates a bit of inflation, which can cause customers to look for other substitutes.

But, right now, I think, given the outlook for the carry out of the corn market in the U.S., I think, it's going to be an abundant corn crop..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

I guess what I would add is the utilizations are high 80s right now. And given that corn prices are really a pass-through for us, we continue to feel positively about the environment..

Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Okay. And when you say substitutes, do you mean in North America as a whole or is it, like, Mexico that you're referring to? U.S., I imagine the switching costs are a little higher between corn and sugar..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Switching costs, I think, in the U.S. are higher between a corn sweetener and sugar. Yet, I think, Mexico does balance demand for HF-55 and liquid dissolved sugar..

Robert Moskow - Credit Suisse Securities (USA) LLC

Okay. Hey, thanks a lot..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Thanks, Rob..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Welcome..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of David Driscoll of Citi. Please go ahead..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Thank you and good morning..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning, David..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

I just wanted to – maybe a couple things, but I wanted to just to do a quick follow-up on Rob's question on the foreign exchange. I don't think I've ever heard it described that way, Jim, that it's a pass-through.

I mean, in so many years in the past, we've seen foreign exchange as a distinct headwind and then pricing was necessary to be put into place in different geographies to offset foreign exchange. And it never happened on a real-time basis. It was always nine months or something delayed.

Given your description that it's just a pass-through and that this change to your FX forecast has no real impact, can you just talk about what's changed in the business from how we've seen previous instances of big foreign exchange impacts hit EPS?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

David, I don't know if much has changed. Maybe what I'm describing is just a shorter cycle, as we've seen corn prices move if they're U.S. dollar-denominated. I think our pricing cycles can be anywhere from kind of six weeks to 12 weeks. So, what we're trying to do, as corn is changing on a – if it's globally priced in U.S.

dollars and that's moving, then we're trying to make sure that the contracts in countries where we don't hedge are updating maybe on a slightly tighter cycle. You mentioned kind of more like six months to nine months. I would say it's – we try and at least manage that to more like a three-month type of cycle..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Maybe we could follow up on that offline..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

I had a lot of questions right there. I would just maybe ask does it at least improve your confidence given what's happened on foreign currencies.

I mean is there any tangible effect that you guys would call out to the Street?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Well, the most immediate impact has been in the Brazilian reais. So, we were positive on that and then we've had some political turmoil recently in the last month. And so we're still a bit kind of wide-eyed and cautious about how Brazil's political situation turns out and what impact that has on the reais.

But for the Q2 where we've seen the benefit has been in the reais, I would've mentioned as well as now as we go into the second half, the lapse on the British pound and the euro will start to subside, right. So, most of our impact last year was in first half..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Okay. Ilene, just one for you on South America. I don't really want to put a timeframe on this. Can you just talk to us about the longer outlook here for the South American operations? It's been a very disappointing operation. I mean, you're not even close to your cost of capital in this region.

What type of cost reductions can you expect or can we expect for the company to achieve in 2017 or 2018 or whatever timeframe you want to put on it? And then, secondly, what other major metrics are you looking at to really indicate that this business has the potential to turn around and become the business that we saw back in 2012 or that timeframe?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Well, good question. First of all, I look at our footprint today and it's a much better footprint than it was a few years ago. If you recall, we shut down two smaller facilities in Brazil that were inefficient. And so we've moved that capacity to the remaining four facilities. So, we believe that we have a stronger footprint in Brazil.

And in terms of Southern Cone, with the most recent labor action, we've been able to take cost out of the system that has been a real positive. And then in Colombia, we've continued to invest in a very good economy and GDPs are better than they are in other parts of the continent.

So, I think that our footprint in the total continent continues to be excellent. And that the types of metrics that we look at, when we look at the demand and certainly the GDP in econometric-type forecasting, is certainly an important metric but our strategy is to grow in specialty products everywhere.

And then actually in South America, even though it's a very small base, we've been very excited about what we see about the consumers' demand for healthy ingredients and we expect that in the future to continue to grow.

And so, we have developed solutions in South America which we have actually borrowed from other parts of the world, Ingredion Idea Labs, and then localized them for the local taste whether that's in the dairy area or in some of the sweeteners. So, we see some opportunities there both the short-term and the long-term.

So, I think, it is a matter of the economies coming back. They will come back. But with our strong position throughout the continent, with our excellent factories, operating excellence, we've continued to work on that, and optimized costs and then the growth in specialty, we are optimistic about the future in South America..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Are you able to quantify any other cost savings activities, just to give us some color here on the strength of the actions the management has taken to improve the ops?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Well, the cost savings – I'll start and then I'll turn it over to Jim. But if you recall, when we shut down the two Brazilian facilities, we talked about cost savings that we'd experience in 2017 and that number was in the order, I believe, of $5 million to $6 million. We have not announced any specific cost savings going forward.

But, of course, if you look at the below the line costs that we've taken for the strike, of course, those won't be repeating next year and there actually are some above the line costs inherent with labor actions that also kind of a one-time event. But, Jim, I know you might want to add something to that..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. Just to add the color. If you look at what South America is down first half versus last year, a large, large portion of that is some of the temporary costs that we had to incur for the labor action in Argentina, so security and warehousing and such.

I would also say then that the restructuring costs that we've taken relative to the Argentina action we're probably going to get on an annual basis we're estimating about $12 million in terms of run rate savings on labor against that. So, we would see those two step-change improvements. We would expect those improvements as we look to 2018..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Appreciate the color..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

We'll get a little bit of that in the second half, David, right, because those positions have been terminated. And then we'll get the incremental as we roll into 2018..

David Cristopher Driscoll - Citigroup Global Markets, Inc.

Thank you..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah..

Operator

We have a question from the line of Ken Zaslow of Bank of Montreal. Please go ahead..

Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States)

Hey. Good morning, everyone..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Hi, Ken..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States)

Sorry. I got to belabor this point. I think that's what analysts do, unfortunately. But I don't understand this. You guys exceeded expectations two quarters in a row and reduced your FX.

Is there something that is less good going forward that kept you in your guidance or is there something to think about? Are you on the higher end? Is there any change to it? It just seems again – again, I apologize for belaboring it, but it seems a little strange with such good results for the last half as well as lower FX..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

I'll start off and then I'll turn it to Jim. Ken, it's a good question. And we feel good about this year. But as the last question that we just talked about, South America is still one of those unknowns as it relates to the economy.

We feel good about our operations and our focus there and our growth in specialty, but there aren't any green shoots in the economies yet to put us at the higher end of the range. So, we feel very secure in terms of our range overall. But I would say that you look at EMEA, Asia Pac good, North America strong.

It's just that South America, we're excited about what we've been able to accomplish in the Southern Cone and Argentina. Brazil, actually I'm starting to see the GDP for the first time – for 2017 it has a 0.03%. I mean, it's barely positive.

And it looks like we've hit bottom in Brazil, a very important country, but that could be better, but it's barely positive. So, I think that's the part that we're being conservative about. And so, I know, Jim, we've looked at the different ways to look at it. And so, I'd say that South America is what kept me from being overly exuberant..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. Ken, I think that – maybe to add color on the FX and the rates – really the change in the reais is probably the single largest determinant in our view on FX. So, we're still full year think the euro year-over-year and the pound, particularly the pound, are weaker. We're still seeing devaluation of the Argentine peso. Mexico – we're U.S.

dollar-denominated in our business, but we still get some impact on our tax rate depending upon whether or not the peso was stronger or weaker relative to the dollar.

But, really, the toggle has been the reais and whether or not we believe the reais is going to continue in the BRL 3.20, 3.25-ish range or it's going to weaken to more of the BRL 3.40 range. So, we've been a little conservative, I think, on the reais in our forecast for the year.

Yet we're still balancing that with the political situation there as well..

Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States)

Can I ask a bigger picture longer-term question? If I think about North America, that has exceeded I'm assuming your expectation as well as most people's expectations.

Can you continue to grow that off the current base outside acquisitions?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

I'll start off and then turn it to Jim. But we've added capacity in specialty products in North America. So, as an example, we've talked about this specialty asset in Indianapolis that has just only come onstream in the last six months. And so, we're excited about qualifying customers and growing there.

So, as it relates to specialty products, absolutely. We would expect to be able to continue to grow them to mid to single-digit – high single-digit growth in North America, which is a terrific market, where consumers want healthy ingredients. They'll pay more for non-GMO, texture solutions, special sweeteners.

So, that's where we're really focusing a lot of our energy. And, of course, Mexico GDP growth is better than the normal, closer to 2% or more when you look at the next couple years. So, we see opportunities there. Jim, I don't know what you want to add there..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. And just to add, I mean, the corollary to that is to the extent that we have business that is focused on kind of core sweeteners, we have to be very watchful of our costs and continue to drive our continuous improvement against our manufacturing expense and our asset utilization that's against core sweeteners..

Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States)

And my final question, just it was interesting that throughout the presentation you made a couple references to either rebalancing clients, customers in Mexico or diversifying customers in Asia.

What does that mean? What are you doing and can you give examples of how broad that is and what the impact is? And is there anything to read into that as margin-enhancing or anything?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

I think that maybe the example that we should talk about a little bit is in Korea, where we have a customer base where some of it's focused on core kind of high fructose.

And as we move away from customers that are in high fructose towards blends or blends of sweetener that use isomaltose or other, perhaps stevia, that deliver a calorie reduction and help the customers solve identified sugars or added sugars on the label, it moves us towards kind of a better blended mix.

So, we may be suffering as we see the high fructose roll off and we're setting ourselves up with headroom capacity in our refinery to continue to develop a newer product line that may take us six months, 18 months to develop and sell in.

But we need that headroom capacity in order to make that blend and have a more differentiated product that is more on-trend with changes in the consumer scene..

Kenneth Bryan Zaslow - BMO Capital Markets (United States)

Great. Thank you..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure thing..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Brett Hundley of Vertical Group. Please go ahead..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Hey. Good morning, guys..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Hi, Brett..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Jim, I actually just wanted to follow-on real quickly on the answer you just gave on Korea. So, when I look at your business in Asia, volumes very solid, but your margins kind of slipped a little bit sequentially and year-on-year.

And so, as I think about you guys diversifying your customer mix, you just talked about six months to 18 months lead time to kind of change over a bit.

Should I think about your margins in that region under a little bit of relative pressure during that time and then maybe more improvement at the end of that timeframe? Is that the right way to think about that?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

I think that's the right way..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

All else equal?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Okay..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Okay. And then, if we can just talk about South America for a minute. You guys continue to project flat to down income for 2017 and, I guess, I'm really curious about the assumptions behind the word flat or the scenario of flat.

You talked about some savings coming in, in the back half of the year related to Argentina, but can you go through maybe just the scenario where you guys do end up flat just given the really tough H1 that's been in place? I'm imagining that it's going to take time for volumes to come back in Argentina.

I'm curious about your corn situation in Brazil and elsewhere and how long you are there. So, maybe just some granularity on how you guys would end up flat..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

I'll start off and then turn it to Jim. When you think about – when I talked before about Brazil being at the bottom, there is a forecast for their GDP to be slightly up for the year. And so, when you look at the activity in Brazil for the second half, there is some positive trajectory there.

And we're well situated with our capacity, with our teams, with our focus on our customers and with the growth in some specialty albeit from a very small base. There is some upside in Brazil for the rest of the year.

As you mentioned on Argentina, again, we are now moving towards some of that cost reduction that's been achieved from the labor side and other productivity improvements which would add to that second half.

And then, of course, in Colombia, where the economy – the GDP is really considered over 2% for 2017, we've gotten through some, I don't know, wet periods of time there. And the demand for specialty in Colombia and overall pretty decent economy that there are parts of South America that could actually add more than they have in the first half.

Jim, I don't know what you want to add to that?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Maybe just as a base for understanding, Brett. For 2016, about two-thirds of our operating income came in the second half. So, it's hard to see, but there is a bit of seasonality to the customers that we serve. In Argentina, our core business is really focused on beverages.

I think, in Brazil, we've mentioned in the past that we have a fair amount of customer servicing in the brewery business. So, we get a bit of seasonality as they enter their spring and summer.

So, first, just kind of ground that because that – if you don't recognize that as a starting point, then your healthy skepticism on getting to flat is warranted. In addition, I would go back to the things that Ilene just mentioned in terms of we see a nice balance of our margins in Brazil relative to corn and relative to where the reais is.

We've had a chance to have a little bit of stability and kind of catch up, I think, in terms of some of the margin pressure, dollar change in the cost of corn that we had in prior quarters and then all of the actions that we've taken in Argentina to become more cost competitive..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

That's helpful.

So, is it really simplistic to basically say that the macro in Brazil is kind of the main swing factor between flat and down?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

I would say that it's the macro – and you're right. I mean the cost actions we've taken, we get either way, but it's always better when the economy is on the way up. So, yes, the economy is a swing factor..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Okay. And then just lastly from me.

Jim, as I revisit guidance here for you guys, if I try and break apart Q3 and Q4, do you guys view Q3 as kind of a real tough comp? Do you guys think that you can see pretty good earnings growth in both quarters? Can you direct us a little bit to the extent that you can?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Brett, we don't really kind of think about specific guidance on a quarterly basis. I just think that some of what we've seen in terms of strength in North America will carry through in Q3 and then North America tends to be a little slower in Q4, just seasonally.

And then we're looking at some of the strength that we mentioned in South America in the second half..

Brett Hundley - Vertical Trading Group LLC

Thank you..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Akshay Jagdale of Jefferies. Please go ahead..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Hi. Good morning..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Thank you for taking the question. So, I wanted to ask about the core customer rebalance issue in Mexico. Can you talk about what that is and if that has any connection with the political environment? And so, that's my first question..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure. I think what we experienced in Mexico in Q2 was we had – in Q4 of last year we planned on building inventories, mostly in starch, anticipating new contracts that we would have, primarily in brewery, as we completed our expansion of San Juan del Rio in the spring.

And as we completed that, we wound down some of those inventories that we had built. We are anticipating some take-up from some specific customer sites. And there's some exchange going on between some of the customers buying different brewery sites or a brewery site and moving those around in terms of balancing their production.

So, I think, that we kind of have a temporary just rebalancing here that's going on – is orders between two of the largest brewery customers are kind of getting sorted out given the history of AB InBev and Modelo..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

And so, I wouldn't call that a political reaction..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

It's not politics. No. No. Just....

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

No. It's customer strategies..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

So, that's helpful. Can you give us like order of magnitude impact of that? And it sounds to me – and we can follow up offline – that that seems like a timing issue related to your customer strategy rather than anything else? Meaning, at some point, whatever that volume is, is going to come back.

So, am I interpreting that correctly? And can you help us just round numbers quantify what that might be, how big that impact was?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. I mean, we wouldn't call out something specifically in terms of numbers, but we see it as temporary. This may be Q2 or maybe into Q3 but we see the rebalancing. We don't see any significant change in the customer relationships, nor the strategic attractiveness or where we manufacture and where we shift from for our grits..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Okay. That's helpful. And then, just looking at the guidance range, half the year is over in the books and you still have a pretty wide range there. You did talk in-depth about the range of options in South America. But, I mean, typically, at this time, I think, your range is tighter.

So, can you help me understand if both ends of the range are truly in play right now or you're trending one way or the other based on what we've seen so far this year?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

I think on the – fair enough question. I think on the lower end of the range, what still is out there is we do want to see the recovery of our customer base in Southern Cone following the shutdown of our two facilities. We're also watching what happens in terms of NAFTA.

I think that we're a little bit more clear on the limited set of changes being proposed. But still, we're thoughtful on that. More in particular, not necessarily on the regulation, but any perceptions of investment into Mexico and whether or not Mexico's GDP growth softens in the wake of slightly higher inflation rates in Mexico.

We're seeing inflation maybe north of 6% for the second half, don't necessarily see, kind of necessarily personal income keeping up. So, we're watchful of overall takeaway in Mexico in the second half. That's really, I think, the two or three things that are kind of on our minds.

We also actually mentioned in Brazil in resolution of whether or not Temer is able to put through some reforms that generally stimulate GDP. I think we're a bit cautious on that now. I think on the high end, we do see really nice momentum in North America and we were still anticipating growth for both Asia Pac and EMEA.

And really kind of the interesting one for us will just be see kind of how much North America – or how much South America recovers and goes into summer..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

And we did narrow the range at the end of the second quarter. And you're right, it's halfway through the year, but I think Jim has laid out, I think, the very – we feel pretty balanced here..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Okay. Just one last one, Ilene, this is for you, on specialty. It's a bit hard to know exactly what's going on quarter-to-quarter for us. So, I'm just looking for some color. And specifically, I'd like to ask you about the acquisitions that you've made with Penford, for example, where, I think, they were close to commercializing a few products.

I'm just curious, like, over the last two years or three years with the acquisitions you've made, has that yet fully or meaningfully impacted any growth in your new customer acquisition or sort of growing the wallet with existing customers? You've obviously gotten cost synergies out of the deals and they've been very attractive from a financial perspective, but I'm just thinking big picture.

You bought these bunch of assets to expand your portfolio, to strengthen existing relationships and then also hopefully build new ones.

So, can you give us some color as it relates to...?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Sure..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Past acquisitions, how they're playing through today?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Yes. No, you're right that National Starch and Penford were more on the cost side. But I would say that Penford, which is a couple years into the acquisition, one of the key strategies was to come with potato starch solution that are gluten-free and non-GMO. And so that has brought us a number of new customers and new opportunities.

So, we continue to be very excited about that. And then the more recent acquisitions – it is pretty early, but between Kerr and TIC Gums, we really are excited about the opportunity to deliver solutions to the small and medium-sized customers where we see more of the growth coming and a faster to market with some of the new products.

And so, we become more important to customers like this with our product development capabilities and so with blending solutions for those types of customers, fruits and berries or smoothies. And then the non-GMO sweetener type solutions for all those types of customers really – we're really well-positioned to deliver those solutions.

So, I think, that's what's behind our feeling very good about our specialty growth and a number of the comments that we alluded to here today. So, we're on track..

Akshay Jagdale - Jefferies LLC

Okay. Thank you. I'll pass it on..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Farha Aslam of Stephens. Please go ahead..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

Hi. Good morning..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Good morning..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Hey, Farha..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

I'm still kind of confused about South America. I'm sorry to keep going back to this region. But in the second half of this year, do you expect earnings to be up versus the second half of last year, given you should have restructuring benefits and a much, much more benign corn environment.

Is that how we should think about it?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

I think while we have set up for a better run rate on labor savings as well as manufacturing expenses, I think the one thing that's still over our head is how quickly some of the customer recovery of our sales in Argentina will occur.

So, it's really hard to measure that in July and August in the midst of winter, particularly when you're selling into beverages. So, we really need to just be kind of middle of the road and continue to do our job in terms of servicing our customers and see how that plays out really into Q4.

But in prior comments, getting back to the second half in South America is generally the majority of the profits. We have taken actions over the last 18 months to improve our cost position in both Brazil and Argentina.

I think we're perfectly set up for some nice leverage if we get some strong customer recovery and we see any glimpses of economic growth and stronger consumer pull-away for our customers' products, then we should have some nice momentum..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

And then, just in Korea, do you manufacture in Korea? I thought that Korea was an import market for HFCS. And historically, you serviced Korea out of both the U.S. and Argentina. But....

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. No. Farha, we've manufactured in Korea for years, but we do import corn because there's no real local corn. But we do manufacture – have two wonderful facilities there, serve the local market with both corns and specialty and have added capacity in the specialty sweetener side. So, definitely, serve it locally with manufacturing..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

So, your strategy in Korea is that you want to trade up to the higher margin items, more consistent profits.

So, you're pulling back on HFCS because you don't want to add additional corn wet milling capacity?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Well, we always like to do that because, as you know, the corn wet milling is the most expensive part of the process. So, absolutely trading up and redirecting the corn wet milling to more higher value ingredients is always our goal. And what's nice about the Korean market is people want to eat healthy.

And so, it's a mindset there and well-positioned for us to serve these specialty sweeteners in that market. So absolutely..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

My final question is really about the longer-term. I understand that you're right now just entering the contracting season for next year, so you can't give us guidance.

But, Ilene, if you had to think about and just go through your regions of where you anticipate the growth drivers to be for next year, could you just highlight those for us?.

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. I mean, I think of it a couple different ways. So, if you think about our organic capabilities, certainly North America, as I mentioned earlier, that we've added capacity in specialty. We see the consumer wanting healthy ingredients, in texture, in wholesome, specialty sweeteners like non-GMO sweeteners. So, we're excited about that opportunity.

And U.S. GDP is considered to be over 2% and that's pretty good. As I think about South America, as I mentioned, I also see some GDP growth coming in to next year. In fact, Brazil is supposed to be 1.3% next year and Colombia over 3%..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

And first time up in three years maybe..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah, exactly. So, I think with the GDP growth in South America, our specialty capabilities and then the cost rightsizing that we've done in Southern Cone, we are excited about that. And then, in EMEA, as you know, our business is very much focused on specialty foods in the Europe side. So, we see some opportunities there.

And then, in Pakistan, we're also growing some of the specialties. And then in Asia Pacific, we also added some capacity to Thailand for specialty growth with the tapioca franchise there and then our new rice acquisition will have some nice solution.

So, I think, if you look at it all, organically, we continue to feel excited about our specialty strategy.

And then I'd put on top of that our M&A pipeline, where we continue to look at these bolt-on acquisitions and to build on the ones that we completed in the last 12 months and be able to supply customers with those capabilities next year with our growth scenario which should be very exciting..

Farha Aslam - Stephens, Inc.

That's helpful. Thank you..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

You're welcome..

Operator

Our next question will come from the line of Adam Samuelson of Goldman Sachs. Please go ahead..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Yes. Thanks. Good morning, everyone..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Hi, Adam..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

I want to follow up on Farha and, I guess, Ken's question. And, really, thinking about that long-term North American profit growth outlook off the base that we're going to be setting here in 2017. And I didn't hear in the response an expectation or a confidence necessarily that you could grow the core business from here.

And I understand that if I look at the pricing dynamics we'll see how those shake out as we go through contracting.

But do you feel confident that there's still ability to grow the profit in aggregate if the core business does face incremental pricing pressures from where we are today?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Adam, I think, if it's North America-focused, I'd like to first break out Mexico and talk about the large population. I think longer-term, three years to five years out, still nice prospects for GDP growth, nice prospects for household or personal income growth.

And, I think, when you think about our core business and the multitude of both food, beverage and brewing solutions that we provide, I think, there's nice opportunity for growth and the core growth in our specialty business in Mexico. If you bring it back and focus on U.S.

and Canada, I think, there's really two things that really drive us and our focus on our margin improvement. And with U.S., Canada, we have a large specialty business within U.S., Canada.

We're focused on expansion of some of our finishing assets and finishing capability and continue to have kind of leading edge technologies in some of our clean label starches.

In addition, the opportunity to take our value-added starches and combine them with gums and other blends through what we're learning with our TIC Gums acquisition, that's one nice driver of profit margin expansion in the U.S., Canada.

And the second – and we've continued to look at this is – is network optimization and continuous improvement and using all of our leaning skill set and capability of our great engineers and our great manufacturing team to continue to figure out how we squeeze more out of our assets.

And we're going to continue to work on that within U.S., Canada and use that as a means of driving some market improvement, even if we're facing flattish volume on the U.S., Canada sweetener side..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Okay. That's helpful. And then, in the quarter, specifically in North America, the margins were up about 200 basis points year-over-year. You had volumes that were lower and price/mix – organic volumes that were lower and price/mix that was about flat year-on-year.

Any way to break out a little more color on drivers of the margin improvement whether just the loss of some of those Mexico volumes because of the customer issues there was a mix positive or any more kind of clarity or granularity on the margin improvement?.

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

I think that if you're doing year-over-year, recognizing that the TIC Gums acquisition would be included in the Q2 in the first half of 2017 and that should be margin expanding. In addition, what we'll see is we still have that specialty growth continuing in really the kind of mid to high-single-digits with U.S., Canada, higher within Mexico.

And that's going to drive margin expansion..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

So, you're saying specialty is at mid to high-single-digits in a flat volume – total volume construct? I'm just trying to be clear on that..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. Sure. Because we've said that the high fructose corn syrup is usually probably down 1% on volume..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

To our trading up strategy and within the same assets..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Yeah. So, you're taking....

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Well, right. The specialty is only 25% or 27% of your revenues and that math still wouldn't work if HFCS is only down 1%, unless the rest of the core is down more..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Maybe I'm not following your math, Adam, on that one. We could take it offline..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Okay..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

But, generally, we've advertised HFCS headwinds for the industry to be down 1%, maybe down 2% kind of. It's been a bit confusing with some of the swings towards regular soda versus diet on-shelf.

The last couple years HF-55 has held up kind of quite well, but I think longer-term I would still assume that there's still some regular cola headwinds which should impact HF-55 volumes over time. I think the other types of sweeteners that we have in our portfolio have been flat to up.

And then what we see in terms of net sales from our specialties has been mid to high-single-digits..

Adam Samuelson - Goldman Sachs & Co. LLC

Okay. Maybe we'll take it offline. I appreciate the color..

James D. Gray - Ingredion, Inc.

Okay..

Operator

There are no further questions in queue at this time..

Ilene S. Gordon - Ingredion, Inc.

Okay. So, just before we sign off, I'll reiterate our confidence in our business model, strategy and long-term outlook. We remain keenly focused on value creation and delivering value to shareholders. Also, I'd like to remind everybody about November 14 as our upcoming Analyst Day in Bridgewater, New Jersey. We hope to see you there.

So, that brings our second quarter 2017 earnings call to a close. Thanks again for your time today..

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, it does conclude our conference call. Once again, we'd like to thank you for your participation in today's conference call and thank you for using our service. Have a wonderful day. You may now disconnect..

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