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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2023 - Q1
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Operator

Good morning, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the conference call to discuss the results from Holley’s First Quarter of 2023. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this call is being recorded and will be made available for future playback. I would now like to introduce your host for today’s call, Mr. Ross Collins, Managing Director of Alpha IR.

Please go ahead..

Ross Collins

Thank you, operator. Good morning, everyone. Thank you for taking the time to join us today. On the call with me today are Matt Rubel, Executive Chairman; Michelle Gloeckler, Interim President and Chief Executive Officer; Jesse Weaver, Chief Financial Officer; and Vinny Nimmagadda, Executive Vice President of Corporate Development and New Ventures.

After their prepared remarks, we will open the call for questions. Now I will reference the Safe Harbor provisions under the Private Securities Litigation Reform Act of 1995.

This call may contain certain forward-looking statements that are subject to significant risks and uncertainties, including the future operating and financial performance of the company. In many cases, these risks and uncertainties are beyond the company’s control.

Although the company believes the expectations reflected in these forward-looking statements are reasonable, it can give no assurance that such expectations or any of its forward-looking statements will prove to be correct, and actual results may differ materially from expectations.

Important risk factors that could cause actual results to differ materially from those reflected in the forward-looking statements are included in the company’s recent 10-K, S-4, and S-1 filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission. The information contained in this call is accurate only as of the date discussed.

Investors should not assume that statements will remain relevant and operative at a later time. Holley undertakes no obligation to update any information discussed in this call in the future. Additionally, we will be discussing certain non-GAAP financial measures. A reconciliation of these items to U.S.

GAAP are included in today’s press release, which is also posted on our Investor Relations website. At this time, I’d like to turn the call over to Michelle Gloeckler, Holley’s Interim President and Chief Executive Officer.

Michelle?.

Michelle Gloeckler

One, prioritizing key categories and platforms; Two, product innovation; Three, mergers and acquisitions; Four, our customer-focused channel strategy; and Five, engaging and inspiring the enthusiasts. I’d like to update you on the progress we’ve made on each of these pillars. First, on key categories and platforms.

We completed our SKU rationalization program, vastly reducing complexity in our facilities and simplifying the customers’ purchase decisions, all with minimal impact on revenue.

Our team made substantial progress in the quarter, working down the inventory of those rationalized SKUs, and I have personally walked our 400,000 square foot distribution center several times in this past quarter, and I have seen the difference firsthand.

We continue to make progress on our past due orders in the nonelectronic segments of our business. During the quarter, company-wide past due orders decreased slightly by $600,000. By segment, mechanical, exhaust, accessories, and safety, all declined in the 17% to 28% range.

However, most of that improvement was offset by an increase in electronics of 26%. As we discussed in last quarter’s call, automotive-grade microchip availability continues to be a challenge as it relates to building and shipping our Holley EFI products.

However, our team was able to leverage our supply network during the quarter and secured chips to make and ship more Terminator and Dominator EFI products within the Holley EFI product line, albeit at less profitable levels given higher prices paid to secure those chips.

We did, however, take targeted pricing actions to help offset the impact of the higher chip acquisition costs on the spot market. While we are encouraged by our improved shipping rates on these products, new orders in our electronics category continued to outpace our ability to supply, as indicated by the increased level of past dues.

These higher levels of past dues are reflected in our current financial guidance. With that said, our supply chain management efforts are paying off, and we now have line of sight on future chip deliveries, which reduce downside risk to our revenue guidance.

Product redesign efforts to access a wider available supply of chips continue, and we expect to provide an update on this later this year regarding potential 2024 impacts. Optimizing our operations is critical, but our team is also committed to driving innovation that delights our enthusiasts.

Historically, Holley has excelled in anticipating the future needs of its customers, which is at the heart of our innovation pillar. Later this year, we will be launching Holley Sniper 2.0, an extension of one of our most popular electronic fuel injection platforms.

In addition, we are encouraged by the aftermarket tuning technologies created by our R&D team, which recently launched a collaboration with Dodge to utilize Holley aftermarket tuning technologies to enhance vehicle performance for owners, while maintaining factory warranty coverage with installation handled by dealers.

These are historic milestones for both Holley and the industry to better serve our growing base of enthusiasts. With our third pillar, M&A, we continue to accelerate synergy capture from recent acquisitions and remain on track to capture $3 million to $3.5 million of cost synergies in 2023.

As a reminder, the near-term focus of our M&A effort is to accelerate value capture from recent transactions. We are on schedule in adding acquired brands to our Holley.com site, our ERP system, and our distribution center. We continued to make strong progress on our fourth pillar this quarter, delivering strong direct-to-consumer growth.

DTC sales were up 6% year-over-year and DTC sales growth continues to outpace overall companywide sales. As expected, we also began to see our resellers build inventory ahead of the racing season. A return to normal seasonal stocking cycles is a key indicator that we are on a path to demand normalization in the post-COVID era.

Progress on our fifth pillar, engaging and inspiring the enthusiasts, will be more evident as we enter the heart of our event season. We are currently planning seven Holley events this year, and we are working on something big for our electric vehicle event, Holley High Voltage.

This year, we are taking the High Voltage experience to Tesla Takeover, one of the largest Tesla EV gatherings in the United States, which will enable Holley to reach new EV enthusiasts and expose many production EV owners to exciting EV conversions and testing the performance of their vehicles in a motor sports environment.

This event will take place in July in San Luis Obispo, California. As always, Holley High Voltage will bring an incredible display of leading-edge and unique EV conversions and a fun motorsports experience that enables our enthusiast to test the limits of their EV vehicles.

We recently hosted Holley LS Fest West in Las Vegas, which saw great turnout in late April, above what we experienced last year. We continue to offer interactive opportunities for our multigenerational enthusiast customers, and we will meet them when and where they choose to engage.

Underpinning these five strategic pillars is a strong foundation of talent as well as our commitment to operational excellence. We have the right team in place, we are equipped with the right strategy, and we will continue to be a leader in this attractive auto enthusiast market.

As part of our commitment to operational excellence, we continue our efforts to right-size our operational structure and reduce costs, delivering solid progress in the first quarter. Key contributions were a reduction in force, reduced logistics costs, and savings from location consolidation.

We estimate that we drove $9 million in total savings year-over-year in the first quarter and are on track to achieve $30 million of year-over-year savings during 2023. Looking at the balance of 2023, we remain focused and our leadership team is committed to driving the change that Holley needs.

This includes streamlining operations, capturing synergies, and improving both supply chain and working capital management. We will drive innovation and focus on serving the needs of our enthusiast customer base.

While we continue to expect demand normalization throughout the year, we see additional opportunities to reduce inventories and work down our past due orders in electrical categories through both the proactive acquisition of chips on the spot market and chipboard redesigns.

Overall, we remain encouraged by Holley’s business outlook, and we continue to believe that performance aftermarket will organically grow at 6% to 7% per year as COVID demand normalizes.

Furthermore, we made solid progress on profitability this quarter, and we still expect to achieve our targeted levels of profitability, including 40% gross margin and greater than 20% EBITDA margin in the near future.

We are driving fundamental improvement in our business that will continue to add value, and we will inspire our large and loyal base of enthusiasts with innovative new products across our strong roster of brands. We are making meaningful progress toward exiting 2023 as a much stronger company, and we look forward to updating you on future calls.

With that, I’ll now pass the call to Jesse to provide an overview of our financial results.

Jesse?.

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Thank you, Michelle. And good morning, everyone. Holley delivered net sales of $172.2 million in the first quarter, a decrease of $27.9 million, or 13.9%, compared to the first quarter of 2022. Non-comparable sales associated with acquisitions contributed $1.8 million, or 0.9%, of year-over-year growth.

The remaining comparable sales decreased by $29.6 million or 14.8% compared to the prior year quarter. As Michelle highlighted, past due orders declined by $600,000 in the quarter to $26.2 million.

Past due improvements were driven by our mechanical, exhaust, accessories, and safety categories, but were largely offset by past due increases in electronics.

While the team made notable progress on securing additional chips on the spot market, we expect elevated past dues within our electronics category for the remainder of fiscal year 2023, which is reflected in our guidance.

While sales levels and total orders were down from the prior year, it’s important to note that our first quarter of 2022 is an exceptionally tough comparable period. Sales levels during this period in 2022 were up 25% to 26%, and we believe overall consumer demand was likely still benefiting from COVID-19 consumer habits and stimulus.

Additionally, Holley delivered significant sequential top and bottom line improvements relative to the fourth quarter of 2022, with sales and adjusted EBITDA increasing by 12% and 125%, respectively, driven primarily by sales leverage and cost reduction initiatives beginning to flow through.

As it relates to our direct-to-consumer channel, we are pleased to see continued, solid demand as D2C sales were up $2 million, or 6%, year-over-year against the strong results of 39% we delivered in the first quarter of 2022. This further demonstrates our commitment to meet our customers where they want to shop.

D2C sales continue to make up a large share of our revenue, representing 22% of first quarter sales, which is up from 18% last year. Gross margin decreased from 41.3% last year to 39.3% in the first quarter of 2023.

The year-over-year decrease in gross margin can primarily be attributed to sales deleverage, combined with inflationary factors, including increases in manufacturing costs and the shift of our sales mix towards products with lower gross margin. This was partially offset by freight and current material cost improvements.

Sequentially, our gross margin improved by 870 basis points, up from 30.7% in the fourth quarter of 2022. The sequential improvement was driven by a positive operating leverage and lack of noncash product rationalization costs in the first quarter. We also began to see the impacts of our recently negotiated logistics contract.

Total selling, general and administrative expenses decreased $5.8 million to $36.7 million in the first quarter of 2023 versus the same quarter of 2022.

The decrease in selling, general and administrative costs was driven by a decrease in equity compensation cost and a decrease in personnel costs, which was a key piece of our recent cost saving actions. Interest expense for the quarter increased $10.9 million to $18.3 million as compared to $7.4 million in the first quarter of 2022.

As a reminder, in an effort to reduce exposure to floating interest rates, we entered into a costless interest rate collar during the first quarter that hedges $500 million of our debt against three-month SOFR rate fluctuations, above 5% and below 2.8% through mid-February of 2026.

Notably, our interest expense for the first quarter includes a $3 million noncash charge related to the change in fair value of the collar. Excluding this noncash charge, our interest paid for the period is aligned with the guidance we laid out last quarter.

Going forward, our interest expense will need to be adjusted for the change in valuation associated with the interest collar to arrive at our true cash interest paid. We recorded net income of $4.2 million in the first quarter of 2023.

Net income for the quarter was unfavorably impacted by a $1.9 million noncash increase in liabilities for warrants and earn-out shares. On an adjusted basis, net income was $6.1 million versus net income of $21.5 million in the first quarter of 2022.

Adjusted EBITDA decreased to $34 million in the first quarter, down from $46 million in the first quarter of 2022. From a balance sheet and liquidity perspective, we generated positive free cash flow and paid down $7.3 million in debt during the quarter.

We ended the quarter with $20.8 million in cash and only $5 million drawn on our $125 million revolver.

Turning to our outlook and financial priorities for the remainder of 2023, as we discussed on our last call, the focal points for the year include restoring Holley’s profitability, improving free cash flow, optimizing working capital, and delevering the balance sheet.

We fully expect to deliver on these initiatives in 2023, and they’re reflected in our forward-looking expectations for the business. For the full year, we are reaffirming our previously provided guidance ranges.

As a reminder, we are projecting net sales in the range of $625 million to $675 million and adjusted EBITDA in the range of $108 million to $122 million.

Given the strong progress we made on our operational improvement and cost savings initiatives during the first quarter, we are increasingly confident in our outlook, and we expect improving year-over-year performance as we progress through 2023, both in terms of revenue growth and EBITDA margin.

We expect 2023 results to include capital expenditures of $10 million to $15 million, depreciation and amortization between $23 million and $25 million, and interest expense in a range of $60 million to $65 million, which excludes the impact of any noncash interest rate hedge revaluation.

Regarding our working capital levels and free cash flow, we are continuing to see inventory turns come back in line with historical pre-COVID levels. And as I alluded in our last call, we do not anticipate the free cash flow headwinds we experienced from working capital over the course of last year.

While we secured additional financial flexibility to execute our strategy through our recently amended credit agreement, we remain committed to driving free cash flow, paying down debt, and keeping overall leverage levels in check in 2023.

At the quarter end, our net leverage ratio, as defined by our financial partners and lenders, was 5.7 times, which remains well below the thresholds negotiated as part of the amendment process.

In closing, while we continued to face supply chain uncertainty and continued normalization of demand during the quarter, we are pleased with our results and the progress we are making. Our leadership team is committed to executing our strategy and making the necessary changes to drive value for our shareholders.

As these various headwinds subside over the next six to twelve months and as the market returns to more normalized growth levels, we are confident that Holley will get back to achieving its long-term gross margin and EBITDA targets of 40% and more than 20%, respectively.

We continue to believe that Holley’s position as an industry leader with ample runway for long-term profitable growth is unchanged. That concludes our prepared remarks. Ross, we can open the call up for questions..

Ross Collins

Absolutely, Jesse. As a reminder, we ask that you please limit yourself to 1 question with 1 related follow-up as needed. Operator, please open the line for questions from our participants..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our first question comes from the line of Joe Altobello with Raymond James. Please proceed with your question..

Unidentified Analyst

This is Martin [ph] on for Joe Altobello. A quick question. Congratulations on the great quarter.

But given the beat relative to the Street and you didn’t raise the guide, is there anything unusual in the first quarter or are you just being conservative?.

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Hey, this is Jesse. What I would say is, look, we’re pleased with the quarter. I mean, our full year guidance was the guidance that we laid out.

I think if we look back a year ago from now, there were some difficulties in forecasting 2022, and we feel maintaining the current guidance range and getting some more visibility into really after Q2 will give us the visibility that we need to be in a much better position.

But I think, all in, we’re pleased with seeing that we are knocking on the door of the 40% gross margin, 20% EBITDA. When you look at the guide for the back half of the year, we expect those trends on a year-over-year basis to continue to improve.

And like I said, that visibility after we get through Q2 will give us, I think, a bit more of the comfort we need in this environment to probably look at it differently..

Unidentified Analyst

Got it. Thank you. And you mentioned that the wholesalers are starting the restock.

Can we get an idea of the magnitude or any additional color around that?.

Michelle Gloeckler

Yes, this is Michelle. And the wholesaler – while we don’t give quarterly guidance, we do have a split for the year of 52:48, and we’re seeing that continue as it has historically. They also stock and ramp up their inventories for race season and consumer demand to maximize in-stocks..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

And I’ll build on that a little bit. I would say that what we’re seeing in the visibility that we have into our reseller inventories and what we would call out-the-door sales, looking back at last year, it looked like there was quite a bit of stocking up in anticipation of probably a much stronger year than we felt on the back half of last year.

And so from an inventory level perspective, this year, I think they’ve been much more conservative on their stock levels. So we aren’t expecting at this time, and again, getting that visibility into Q2 will help us confirm this, but we’re not expecting at this time that they are in an over inventory position relative to demand..

Unidentified Analyst

Got it. Very helpful, thank you..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Absolutely..

Operator

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Brian McNamara with Canaccord. Please proceed with your questions..

Madison Callinan

Hi, this is Madison Callinan on for Brian. We imagine many prospective investors aren’t particularly car enthusiasts or gearheads, per se, and your business is pretty complex. How do you plan to make it easier for investors to understand the business in layman’s terms moving forward? Thanks..

Michelle Gloeckler

Hi, Madison, this is Michelle. And thank you for the question. We understand that the business is complex for folks outside of our core base of enthusiasts.

What we try to do is provide a lot of transparency and one-on-one conversations and you’ll find attached material to our earnings release that are not only financials and charts and graphs, but on Page 17 there is an image of an automobile that shows all the areas where Holley provides products and then furthermore the brands within each of those categories.

For example, you’ll see the driver is in safety gear. Our safety brands are Stilo, Simpson, and RaceQuip.

You’ll see all the different areas of the car, both under the hood, the wheels, and hopefully that can help break down where our categories and brands fit and how we look at the business from a performance mechanical, performance electronics, safety, et cetera. It’s a great question. Thank you..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Yes. And Madison, I think it could be helpful for investors to maybe not get too in the weeds even at times on what all the different components are but get into more of the mindset of an enthusiast. And an enthusiast category that I would assume more investors are comfortable with would be something like golf.

And in that category, I think what you see is a lot of enthusiasts would sacrifice spending in other areas in order to improve their golf game. The next new club came out, they could take a couple strokes off. Same concept here. You could improve your air-to-fuel ratio. That will improve your off the drag strip.

There’s so many different analogies here to other enthusiast categories that I think are much more relatable to this investor base..

Madison Callinan

Great, thank you guys, so much..

Operator

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of John Lawrence with The Benchmark Company. Please proceed with your questions..

John Lawrence

Hi, thanks. Congrats, guys. Would you comment a little bit about, Jesse, the $9 million savings marching toward the $30 million for the year, just talk about those buckets a little bit and maybe visibility, I know it’s hard to, just talk about the visibility of how those buckets go through the year, please..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Sure. Yes, thank you, John. I would say that the $9 million is great. It’s going to move a bit around with the volume that you would see on the net sales. It gives us confidence in the $30 million in cost savings that we had outlined.

In terms of the buckets, it is a little more heavily weighted in the COGS bucket from the freight perspective, with about $6 million to $7 million of it coming from cost of goods and the balance in SG&A. Hopefully that gives you a little more comfort in the number.

But I would say, from a cost perspective, a lot of the COGS is going to move with volumes..

John Lawrence

Great, thanks. And just a follow-up. I guess late April you had a couple events, the Las Vegas and Texas event.

Can you comment on the participation of those outings, please?.

Michelle Gloeckler

Yes. We had the – and thank you for the compliment upfront, too, by the way, we appreciate that. The Las Vegas LS Fest West, we had strong attendance, we had good weather, and we had good participation as well as far as number of people that registered to actually show their vehicles.

LS Fest Texas is coming up in the coming weeks and then we have announced our other events throughout the remainder of the year, including the one we announced in today’s comments around Holley High Voltage in July in San Luis Obispo, California, tied in with the Tesla Takeover.

So we are encouraged by the early attendance and are prepared to meet those needs going forward..

John Lawrence

Great, thanks. Good luck..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Thank you, John..

Operator

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Alex Perry with Bank of America. Please proceed with your questions..

Alex Perry

Hi, thanks for taking my questions. I guess, first, I wanted to ask about the electronics category. Any help in thinking about what the guidance includes in terms of electronics category.

If you’re able to drive growth in electronics, like you did in the first quarter, will that be upside to the year? And then are you still seeing – it seemed like it was a pretty strong ability to secure chips in the quarter. Maybe it’s on the spot market, but are you still seeing that momentum continue? Thanks..

Michelle Gloeckler

Yes, I’m going to try to breakdown the electronics piece for you. We did see our past dues in electronics grow. You’re correct, we are seeing – we are able to procure chips and are producing. We’re not able to produce enough to keep up with the past dues. That is baked into our guidance.

When you think about the EFI ecosystem, though, it was important to recognize our Sniper EFI announcement today, and that is an ecosystem that would include the throttle body, the ignition under the HyperSpark brand and modern electric fuel pumps. These are being designed on more readily available chips, and that is also baked into our estimate.

These Sniper EFI systems will improve performance in areas like cold start, fuel economy, drivability, and it really modernizes classic vehicles’ compatibility with today’s fuel. So we’re excited about this launch, and it does use a more readily-available set of chips.

I’ll leave you with the fact that we are still producing and taking orders for Terminator and Dominator. We are still working to redesign those boards with more available chips, and those are the ones we’re procuring on the spot market. So thanks, and hopefully that’s helpful..

Alex Perry

That’s incredibly helpful. And then I guess my follow-up was actually going to be on the Sniper 2.0 launch. Did you say when it’s launching and should we expect – should that be a meaningful revenue contributor this year? How should we expect that to play into the model? Thanks..

Michelle Gloeckler

Thank you for the follow-up. We are excited about it because of the features of the product. We didn’t give you a date. We want to make sure that we have the opportunity to share the features and benefits and timing of that launch with our important partners who help us extend our reach.

It is planned for our guidance, and we are very excited, and we will share that it is back half..

Alex Perry

Perfect. That’s really helpful. Best of luck going forward..

Michelle Gloeckler

Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our next questions come from the line of Bret Jordan with Jefferies. Please proceed with your questions..

Bret Jordan

Hi, good morning guys..

Michelle Gloeckler

Hi, Bret. Good morning. .

Bret Jordan

Could you talk about the mix? Obviously you’ve got your revenue snapshot in the deck, but if you were to segment it by actual race products versus street use and maybe talk about the cadence of demand between the two of those, is one of them more discretionary than the other?.

Vinny Nimmagadda

Yes, Bret, it’s Vinny. Great question. When we look at electronics, especially I think in each of these categories, you’ll see that there’s a healthy balance.

In things like electronics where you’ll see more of our Holley EFI products used in racing applications, but there’s also electronic tuning and more of our handheld tuners that gets used in a number of street applications.

Mechanical also runs the gamut, but the vast majority of safety, as you can imagine, is going to be racing oriented and that’s really, I think, the material ones to call out in terms of how we look at it..

Bret Jordan

Have you seen any difference in demand between the two? Obviously, you have to raise, you have to raise, but you don’t have to put a chip in the streetcar.

Do you see – is there any difference in cadence?.

Vinny Nimmagadda

I think in enthusiast category, there are reasons why folks do budget these spends on a recurring basis. Even for the street applications, these are definitely purchases that folks are planning for, and there’s a clear, heavily researched product that folks want and, on the front end, do a lot of research into getting.

But I think from a stability standpoint, we see reasons to believe in both categories being stable and enthusiast-driven..

Michelle Gloeckler

Yes. And I would only add that we haven’t seen any material shift in that mix over time between street and race. One of the things we do know is both segments respond really well to innovation. So we’re very excited about the Sniper 2.0 announcement today..

Bret Jordan

Okay. And then a quick question on the Tesla-fest.

What is the addressable market? If you were to look at a Tesla and say, I sell everything in my catalog to that car, what’s the value of a Tesla from an addressable market?.

Vinny Nimmagadda

It’s still in its infancy, Bret. When you look at overall vehicles in operation and the car park being as largely ICE as it is, factory battery electric vehicles are still small and less than 1% of vehicles on the road.

And what we see in the aftermarket and enthusiasts is they’re modifying cars that are older or in line with more of the average vehicle age. But I think as these Teslas continue to age and there’s more on the road, there’s going to be higher modification rates and more enthusiasts that want to personalize them.

I think the graphic that Michelle actually flagged on Slide 17 in the deck also just shows you that the depth and breadth of categories that we serve bumper to bumper and you can start to get a feel for more of the corners of the vehicle, the safety applications, and a number of the other areas and categories and accessories that would be applicable and our powertrain diagnostic..

Bret Jordan

Okay. All right, thank you..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Thanks Bret..

Bret Jordan

Okay. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Michael Baker with D.A. Davidson. Please proceed with your questions..

Michael Baker

Okay, hi. Thanks guys. I just want to ask about the demand trends.

Did you see anything noteworthy through the quarter, month by month, maybe as weather got better, any impact from tax refunds? I don’t think that’s your customer, but anything in terms of the trend and/or economic sensitivity as we think about the coming quarters? And just to clarify, you said that it’s first half 52%, second half 48% typically in your sales.

Is that right?.

Michelle Gloeckler

Yes, Michael, it’s Michelle. You have that correct. And as far as trends, we saw very traditional, historical lines. We do look at all those things with respect to tax refunds, money in the market, stimulus. And I would say that we see a more normalization of that pre-COVID demand..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

And the other thing that I would build on that, Mike, is you are going to see more of that immediate consumer change in wallet at the reseller out-the-door sales level than you will with us, because our resellers are going to be a little bit more reactive to those things on a more real-time basis as they then order from us based upon the response.

And right now....

Michael Baker

Right. That would trickle back to you eventually..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

That’s right. And so right now based on what we’re seeing from our resellers, their sales are relatively down, slightly flat in some cases on their out-the-door sales of our products.

And this goes back to my earlier comment where they were destocking quite a bit in the back half of last year and they got their inventory levels to where they’re able to service the demand that they serviced effectively last year. But last year they had so much more in stock, probably more than they needed.

So when we look at our cumulative estimate of their inventory levels this year versus last year, I mean, we’re estimating they’re down roughly $20 million for those that we’re able to get information on..

Michael Baker

Okay. For a follow-up, maybe for Mr. Rubel, if he’s there, things going in the right direction.

Any update on the CEO search, not to put you on the spot, but it still has Michelle listed as Interim in the press release, so just wondering what’s going on with that search?.

Matt Rubel Executive Chairman

No, I am on the call and it’s an appropriate question. The search continues to go very well. We’ve had a tremendous amount of really qualified and interested candidates that really see the value of the business and, quite honestly, are impressed with the strength of the team as well.

So while, in this call today, I can’t commit to anything explicit on timing, I would just say we’ve made great progress and are moving forward at a pace that I feel very comfortable with..

Michael Baker

Great, appreciate that. Thank you..

Operator

Thank you. Our next questions come from the line of Joe Feldman with Telsey Advisory Group. Please proceed with your questions..

Joe Feldman

Yes, hi guys, Thanks for taking the question. And congrats on the quarter, coming in better. Do you guys – I wanted to ask you about pricing and what you’re seeing in the market these days.

I would think, especially on the electronic side, there’s probably a bit of pricing power, but I wanted to just get your thoughts on what you’re seeing and how the market is taking on that price..

Michael Baker

Yes. Joe, it’s Michelle. Thank you for the compliment. And specifically on pricing, it is something that we assess not only on our input costs but the competitive landscape within the industry plus demand. And we’ll continue that review, as we’ve done it historically, annually.

But I did mention in the script that we did take some pricing on electronics to reflect the higher cost of securing those chips on the spot market. That said, we are still filling past due orders at an old price, so it is something that will blend over time..

Joe Feldman

Got it. Okay, that’s helpful. Thank you.

And then the last one, Jesse, when you were talking about the cadence of the year, presumably, will it be linear progressive improvement through the year, or should we see like second quarter still going to be tough, second half starts to look better, or can you help us a little bit more with maybe how the year might flow from a top and bottom line perspective?.

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Yes, Joe, I would say that on a year-over-year basis, if you look at our margins last year, you see the back half was – on an EBITDA basis was pretty challenged. And so that’s where you would see most of the accretion on a year-over-year basis.

And then as it relates to the year-over-year top line growth, it’s a similar flow there where we were down over 13% here in Q1.

That should get progressively better given that what we’ve said here is roughly 52% on the guidance here gets you to a number for Q2, I think, in some respects, and then the back half seasonality, I think, we’ve been pointing people to 2019 as a good benchmark for how those quarters should split out..

Joe Feldman

Got it. That’s helpful. Thank you. And good luck with this quarter. Thanks guys..

Jesse Weaver Chief Financial Officer & Head of Information Technology

Thank you, Joe..

Operator

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] There are no further questions in the queue at this time. With that, I would like to close the call out. We thank you for joining today’s teleconference. We appreciate your participation. You may disconnect your lines at this time and enjoy the rest of your day..

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