Good day and welcome to the Second Quarter 2021 Earnings Release Conference Call. Today’s conference is being recorded. At this time, I would like to turn the conference over to Mike Majors, Executive Vice President, Administration and Investor Relations. Please go ahead, sir..

Thank you. Good morning, everyone. Joining the call today are Gary Coleman and Larry Hutchison, our co-Chief Executive Officers; Frank Svoboda, our Chief Financial Officer; and Brian Mitchell, our General Counsel. Some of our comments or answers to your questions may contain forward look statements that are provided for general guidance purposes only.

Accordingly, please refer to our earnings release 2020 10-K and any subsequent Forms 10-Q on file with the SEC. Some of our comments may also contain non-GAAP measures. Please see our earnings release and website for discussion of these terms and reconciliations to GAAP measures. I will now turn the call over to Gary Coleman..

Thank you, Mike and good morning everyone. In the second quarter, net income was $200 million, or $1.92 per share compared to $173 million or $1.62 per share a year ago. Net operating income for the quarter was $193 million or $1.85 per share, an increase of 12% per share from a year ago.

On a GAAP reported basis return on equity as of June 30 was 9.0% for the first half of the year and 9.7% for the second quarter. Book value per share was $83.59. Excluding unrealized gains and losses on fixed maturities, return on equity was 12.4% for the first half of the year and 13.5% for the second quarter.

In addition, book value per share grew 9% to $55.66. In our life insurance operations, premium revenue increased 9% from the year ago quarter to $728 million. As noted before, we have seen improved persistency and premium collections since the onset of the pandemic. Life underwriting margin was $179 million, up 11% from a year ago.

The increase in margin is due primarily to the higher premium and lower amortization related to the improved persistency. For the year, we expect life premium revenue to grow between 8% to 9% and underwriting margin to grow 5% to 6%. In health insurance, premium revenue grew 4% to $296 million and health underwriting margin was up 16% to $74 million.

The increase in underwriting margin was primarily due to improved claims experience and persistency. For the year, we expect health premium revenue to grow between 4% and 5% and underwriting margin to grow around 9%. Administrative expenses were $68 million for the quarter, up 10% from a year ago.

As a percentage of premium, administrative expenses were 6.6% compared to 6.5% a year ago. For the full year, we expect administrative expenses to grow 8% to 9% and be around 6.7% of premium due primarily to increased IT and information security cost, higher pension expense, and a gradual increase in travel and facility costs.

I will now turn the call over to Larry for his comments on the second quarter marketing operations..

Liberty National, an increase of 12% to 18%; Family Heritage, an increase of 4% to 8%; United American Individual Medicare Supplement, a decrease of 1% to an increase of 9%. I will now turn the call back to Gary..

Thanks, Larry. We now turn to the investment operations. Excess investment income, which we define as net investment income less required interest on net policy liabilities and debt, was $60 million, a 2% decline from the year ago quarter. On a per share basis, reflecting the impact of our share repurchase program, excess investment income grew 2%.

For the full year, we expect excess investment income to decline 1% to 2%, but to grow around 2% on a per share basis. In the second quarter, we invested $116 million in investment grade fixed maturities, primarily in the financial, municipal and industrial sectors.

We invested at an average yield of 3.69%, an average rating of A, and an average life of 35 years. We also invested $72 million in limited partnerships that invest in credit instruments. These investments are expected to produce incremental yield and are in line with our conservative investment philosophy.

For the entire fixed maturity portfolio, the second quarter yield was 5.24%, down 14 basis points from the second quarter of 2020. As of June 30, the portfolio yield was 5.23%. Invested assets are $19.1 billion, including $17.5 billion of fixed maturities at amortized cost.

Of the fixed maturities, $16.7 billion are investment grade with an average rating of A- and below investment grade bonds are $764 million compared to $802 million at the end of the first quarter. The percentage of below investment grade bonds to fixed maturities is 4.4%.

Excluding net unrealized gains in the fixed maturity portfolio, the low investment grade bonds as a percentage of equity was 13%. Overall, the total portfolio is rated A- compared to BBB+ a year ago. Consistent with recent years, bonds rated BBB are 55% of the fixed maturity portfolio.

While this ratio is in line with the overall bond market, it is high relative to our peers. However, we have little or no exposure to higher risk assets such as derivatives, equities, residential mortgages, CLOs and other asset-backed securities.

Because we invest long, a key criteria in utilizing our investment process is that an issuer must have the ability to survive multiple signposts.

We believe that the BBB securities that we acquire provide the best risk-adjusted, capital-adjusted returns due in large part to our unique ability to hold securities to maturity regardless of fluctuations in interest rates or equity markets. Low interest rates continue to pressure investment income.

At the midpoint of our guidance, we are assuming an average new money rate of around 3.45% for fixed maturities for the remainder of 2021. While we would like to see higher interest rates going forward, Globe Life can thrive in a longer – lower for longer interest rate environment.

Extended low interest rates will not impact the GAAP or statutory balance sheets under current accounting rules since we sell non-interest sensitive protection products.

Fortunately, the impact of lower new money rates on our investment income is somewhat limited, as we expect to have an average turnover of less than 2% per year in our investment portfolio over the next 5 years. Now, I will turn the call over to Frank for his comments on capital and liquidity..

Thanks, Gary. First, I want to spend a few minutes discussing our share repurchase program, available liquidity and capital position. The parent ended the second with liquid assets of approximately $545 million.

This amount is higher than last quarter, because in June, the company issued a 40-year $325 million junior subordinated note with a coupon rate of 4.15%. Net proceeds were $317 million. On July 15, the company utilized the proceeds to call our $300 million 6.125% junior subordinated notes due 2056.

The remaining proceeds will be used for general purposes. In addition to these liquid assets, the parent company will generate excess cash flows during the remainder of 2021.

The parent company’s excess cash flow, as we define it, results primarily from the dividends received by the parent from its subsidiaries less the interest paid on debt and the dividends paid to Global Life’s shareholders. We anticipate the parent company’s excess cash flow for the full year to be approximately $365 million.

Of which, approximately $185 million will be generated in the second half of 2021. In the second quarter, the company repurchased 1.2 million shares of Global Life Inc. common stock at a total cost of $123 million at an average share price of $101.05.

The total spend was higher than anticipated as we took advantage of the sharp drop in share price at the end of the quarter and accelerated approximately $30 million of purchases from the second half of the year to repurchase shares at an average price of $95.62.

So far in July, we have spent $32 million to repurchase 343,000 shares at an average price of $93.81. Thus, for the full year through today, we have spent approximately $246 million to purchase 2.5 million shares at an average price of $97.96.

Taking into account the liquid assets of $545 million at the end of the second quarter, plus approximately $185 million of excess cash flows that we are expected to generate in the second half of the year, less the $32 million spent on share repurchases in July and the $300 million to call our junior subordinated note, we will have approximately $400 million of assets available to the parent for the remainder of the year.

As I will discuss in more detail in just a few moments, we believe this amount is more than necessary to support the targeted capital levels that’s in our insurance operations and maintain the share repurchase program for the remainder of the year. As noted on previous calls, we will use our cash as efficiently as possible.

We still believe that share purchases provide the best return or yield to our shareholders over other available alternatives. Thus, we anticipate share repurchases will continue to be a primary use of the parent’s excess cash flows.

It should be noted that the cash received by the parent company from our insurance subsidiaries is after they have made substantial investments during the year to issue new insurance policies, expand our information technology and other operational capabilities as well as acquired new long-duration assets to fund future cash needs.

As we progress through the remainder of the year, we will continue to evaluate our available liquidity. If more liquidity is available than needed, some portion of the excess could be returned to shareholders before the end of the year.

However, at this time, the midpoint of our earnings guidance only reflects approximately $120 million of share repurchases over the remainder of the year. Our goal is to maintain our capital at levels necessary to support our current rating.

As noted on previous calls, Globe Life has targeted a consolidated company action level RBC ratio in the range of 300% to 320%. At December 31, 2020, our consolidated RBC ratio was 309%.

At this RBC ratio, our insurance subsidiaries have approximately $50 million of capital over the amount required at the low end of our consolidated RBC target of 300%. This excess capital, along with the roughly $400 million of liquid assets we expect to be available at the parent, provide sufficient liquidity to fund future capital needs.

As we discussed on previous calls, the primary drivers of potential additional capital needs from the parent company in 2021 relate to investment downgrades and changes to the NAIC RBC factors related to investments, commonly referred to as C1 factors.

To estimate the potential impact on capital to changes in our investment portfolio, we continue to model several scenarios and stress tests. In our base case, we anticipate approximately $370 million of additional NAIC 1 notch downgrades. In addition, we anticipate full adoption by the NAIC of the new Moody’s and NAIC C1 factors for 2021.

Combined, our base case approximately $105 million of additional capital will be needed at our insurance subsidiaries to offset the adverse impact of the new factors and additional downgrades in order to maintain the midpoint of our consolidated RBC targets.

Bottom line, the parent company has ample liquidity to cover any additional capital that may be required and still have cash available to make our normal level of share repurchases.

As previously noted, we will continue to evaluate the best use of any excess cash that could remain, and we will consider returning a portion of any excess to shareholders before the end of the year. We should be able to provide more guidance on that in our call next quarter.

At this time, I’d like to provide a few comments relating to the impact of COVID-19 on second quarter results. In the first half of 2021, the company has incurred approximately $49 million of COVID death claims, including $11 million in the second quarter.

The $11 million incurred is $10 million less than incurred in the year ago quarter and is in line with our expectations for the quarter.

The total COVID death benefits in the second quarter included $4.6 million incurred in our direct-to-consumer division or 2% of its second quarter premium income, $1.5 million incurred at Liberty National or 2% of its premium for the quarter and $3.5 million at American Income or 1% of its second quarter premium.

At the midpoint of our guidance, we anticipate approximately 20,000 to 30,000 additional COVID deaths to occur over the remainder of 2021. As in prior quarters, we continue to estimate that we will incur COVID life claims of roughly $2 million for every 10,000 U.S. deaths.

We are estimating a range of COVID death claims of $53 million to $55 million for the substantially unchanged from our previous guidance.

Finally, with respect to our earnings guidance for 2021, in the second quarter, our premium persistency continued to be very favorable and was better than we anticipated, leading to greater premium, higher policy obligations and lower amortization as a percent of premium.

At this time, we now expect lapse rates to continue at lower than pre-pandemic levels throughout the remainder of 2021, leading to higher premium and underwriting income growth in our life segment. We also increased the underwriting income in our health segment to reflect the favorable health claims experience we saw in the second quarter.

Finally, the impact of our lower share price results in a greater impact from our share repurchases and results in fewer diluted shares. As such, we have increased the midpoint of our guidance from $7.36 to $7.44 with an overall range of $7.34 to $7.54 for the year ended December 31, 2021. Those are my comments. I will now turn the call back to Larry..

Thank you, Frank. Those are our comments. We will now open the call up for questions..

Thank you. [Operator Instructions] And we will take our first question from Andrew Kligerman with Credit Suisse..

Hey, good morning everyone. Maybe you could quantify the indirect COVID-19 claims during 2Q ‘21.

Do you still anticipate total indirect claims of $25 million from 2Q ‘21 through the year-end? Or has your outlook improved?.

Sure, Andrew. With respect to the second quarter, we had anticipated around $15 million for the quarter, down from the $25 million that we saw in the first quarter. We now estimate that they were closer to actually $22 million of excess obligations or around 3% of premium in the second quarter. So this was about $7 million higher than what we thought.

This increase was mostly due to the better persistency we’re seeing. Remember, the better person requires us to keep more reserves on the books. So in fact, out of the $22 million of these excess obligations that we had in the quarter, about 60% or around $14 million is from the lower lapses.

And then around $8 million relates to other higher non-COVID claim activity. The actual claims around the medical and non-medical was largely in line with what we anticipated. So again, the higher – the $7 million is higher than what we kind of thought really related to the better persistency.

For the full year, we now anticipate that these excess policy obligations will probably be around $70 million, which is around 2.4% of premium, and that’s up from roughly the $50 million that we kind of talked about last quarter.

Of the 2.4% of premium, it does look like about 1.5% of that will relate to higher reserves due to the lower lapses and about 0.9% will relate to higher non-COVID claim activity.

And again, most of – again, the increase of that $20 million from what we had talked about last quarter relates to the impact of the lower lapses and the reserve that required to retain on the policies that really didn’t last as we had anticipated..

That makes a lot of sense. Thank you. And then just my follow-up is, in direct-to-consumer channel, curious about Internet and inbound phone calls, which were previously cited to be growing more quickly.

Is this still the case this quarter? Is globalize exploring any new direct-to-consumer channel partners for growth as well?.

I don’t there are new channels. We continue have the same marketing strategy basically we have four channels in direct-to-consumer. We have the Internet. We have the inbound phone calls, then the insert media plus the mail.

I think we’re seeing a gradual shift, a very gradual shift – the electronic channel is growing the most quickly, particularly the Internet, which still the four channels are unrelated. And so the real growth will come as we use analytics and testing to increase our circulation in our mail volumes and our traffic on the Internet..

Thank you..

Thank you. And we will take our next question from John Barnidge with Piper Sandler..

Great. Thank you.

Can you maybe talk about how you think through the strength in life sales? Does it seem to be more based on agent growth over the last year with maybe those agents that are new, selling to their closest networks or more around pandemic awareness of life sales? I’m really just trying to dimension whether the strength that we’ve seen is a pull forward or not? Thank you..

I think always our life sales are related to growth in our distribution. So agent count is a very important component of that however, if we look at American Income, I think the primary driver of the life sales growth will continue to be the agent growth, and we had a 25% average agent growth quarter-over-quarter.

Liberty National is a little different story. There, in the Q2, our worksite sales were up 75% compared to the second quarter of 2020. As worksite sales actually were up 12% sequentially.

What we’re seeing there is that the return of not just per enrollment or the addition of virtual enrollments, but the return of on-site sales for worksite is really helping Liberty National.

I think it Liberty National and Family Heritage both this year, the growth will come more from productivity as we see a greater percentage of agents submitting business. And of course, in all three agencies as those agents have more experience. The CD average premium written for agents will also increase.

So there are really different drivers at different points of time for distribution..

Okay. And then my follow-up question, this isn’t really related to the indirect COVID question. But last quarter, you talked about increased death despair from like overdoses, suicides being 20%, 80% being delays in cares like Alzheimer’s and cardiac.

Can you maybe talk about what you’re seeing there a little bit and your expectations going forward? Thank you..

Yes. When you do look at the total kind of the mix of that, about 80% still is really relates to the medical the side versus some of the non-medical causes.

Again, I think for the year, we probably anticipate that, we will continue see those at elevated levels even though we do anticipate those to be trending down over the course of the year as access to health care and all that tends to improve.

I think for the full year, we still anticipate that we will probably see excess claims, if you will, of around $28 million roughly 0.9% or 1% of that premium..

Thanks for your answers..

Thank you. And we will take our next question from Ryan Krueger with KBW..

Hi, good morning. I guess, first, I had a follow-up on the persistency impact. So you talked about the 1.5% increase to your policy benefit ratio from higher reserves.

Can you comment on how much of a positive impact would be occurring within the amortization line as an offset to that?.

Yes. The from the amortization side, it’s a little bit less than 1%. So it doesn’t fully the increase in policy obligations, but it largely does..

Got it. And then, I guess, in regards to the agent recruiting, I think your – some of your guidance for year-end agent count at American Income suggest, I think, some decline in agents from where we’re at now.

I guess – can you give a little more color on that? Are you seeing any negative impact from labor market conditions on your ability to recruit new agents?.

Sure. We would like to give that and I think the decline is only a Family Heritage effect in the script I referenced the actuals growth....

Yes. I would refrain to – I think American Income, you had up 3%, but that’s....

American Income, well range of 3% to 6%, Liberty National range of 1% to 8%. The Family Heritage, we think it will be down to 9% to negative 1%, that’s a part of our recruitment level, but I do think growing agent count is going to be a challenge through the end of 2021.

Almost I remember a year ago, the remaining unemployed more importantly underemployed recruits, how many businesses are shutdown, hours reduced for many workers and layoffs are occurring every quarter. Today, we see just the office, we see help most businesses and we say dramatic increase and work opportunities on the job orders.

So I think our producing agent growth will slow in the short run. However, as the economy returns to normal growth levels, we believe we will see a continued growth in our agent count in line with our historical levels. I think the best indicator of future agent growth is always growth in middle management.

When we look at that at American Income, year-to-date, we’ve had a 7% increase in middle management. In Q2, Liberty National had a 6% increase in middle management. Family Heritage had a 13% increase in middle management, that’s important because middle managers keep watching recruiting and training within the company.

I’ve also stated that agent count growth is always a sterile process. And we don’t expect to see constant growth quarter-to-quarter proven year-over-year over the past 4 years, producing agent count, each agency is growing at a compound rate at American Income approximately 9% and 12% at Family Heritage and Liberty National.

However, when you go back as an example, at Liberty National from 2016 to ‘17, we had 19% agency growth. The next year 2000 – the next 2-year period versus ‘17 to ‘18, we had 2.5% growth, followed by 23% growth in next year.

And the reason that stair steps is it takes time to develop middle management, and you want your productivity work over time, so you keep those agents. That’s come a long explanation, but we are very confident of our agents – our agents growth rate producing agents continue to grow, it’s going to be a stair step process..

Understood. Thanks for the color..

Thank you. And we will take our next question from Tom Gallagher with Evercore..

Good morning. The – just a question on persistency. I think I heard you say you now think the better persistency is more likely to be permanent. And if that’s true, that would bode well for future premium growth in life insurance, clearly.

And with the 8% to 9% you are doing this year, assuming you continue to have good persistency and sales trends remain within a reasonable range.

Do you think for 2022, we would be looking at continued growth above your historic ranges for premium growth for life insurance, maybe closer to 6% or 7% at least, even if it’s down a bit or how do you see that – those dynamics playing out?.

Yes, I think you are – I don’t know about what percentage is going to be. We will – in the next call, we will give some guidance on 2022. But yes, I would anticipate we continue to have growth rates that are higher than the pre-pandemic levels..

The one thing I would like to add on that is that, Tom, we didn’t want to infer that we think that the better persistency is permanent. We do think that it’s going to last throughout the end of 2021. So, we do see it continuing at the favorable level.

We will be able to give a little bit more insight, I think, next call when we really dig into 2022, where we really think the persistency levels are going to go. But I think we will be able to get some better views on where we think that persistency will go in 2022.

But we are definitely encouraged with the continued high levels of persistency this year, and that should help, as you say, to buoy that premium growth, at least in the foreseeable future..

Okay. And the – just on the COVID mortality impacts, I guess, the direct ones you are forecasting 20,000 to 30,000 mortality over the rest of the year. I think the IMHE forecasts are showing about double that amount.

So just curious how you are deriving your estimates there?.

Yes. We do take into account several different sources that are out there. IHME is one of those.

It is probably looking at what they were having probably a good week ago just as we then kind of need to apply some of the forecasts they have got, look at those trends, look at what they are looking at by state, applying that to our in-force to do quite a bit of work to come up with our estimates of what that impact is.

I do understand that in some of the last few days, they may have increased their estimates now. And clearly, if that higher number of U.S. debt is in fact realized, we would end up being more at the lower end of our range. I kind of looked at it.

If we ended up averaging let’s just say, 250,000 deaths or 250 deaths a day for the – over the course of the remainder of the year, you end up at around 45, I think, 1,000 deaths to your point around roughly 2x of what we have put in our midpoint, that would be about an extra $0.03 impact overall. So, that would still be within our range.

And so I think that’s a little wider range that we have kind of normally, if you will, help to take into consideration some of that changes on where that might go. So, it’s pretty hard to tell right now exactly what the debt levels are going to be..

Got it. And then just one last, if I could fit it in, the – so the $105 million of the combined impacts from C1 RBC factor changes plus expected ratings downgrades.

Can you isolate how much of the $105 million is specifically from the C1 factor changes?.

This is – about $75 million is from C1. We are probably absent. The C1 is probably about 15 point reduction, if you will, in our RBC ratio just in and of itself. So, that’s around $75 million..

Got it. Thank you..

Thank you. And we will take our next question from Erik Bass with Autonomous Research..

Hi. Thank you. I guess maybe to start a follow-up on Tom’s question on sort of COVID mortality.

Are you seeing any changes at all in terms of your sensitivities as you are getting more vaccinated population? Do you have a sense of how kind of your exposure differs between kind of the insured population versus the general population on vaccination rates? And is vaccination status something you are able to ask about on new policy applications?.

Yes, right now, we are not seeing – as we look, and I think the sensitivity generally around $2 million of claims still per 10,000 deaths. That’s really seemed to be holding pretty well. Clearly, with the higher vaccinations at specialty older ages that is continuing to help lower, if you will, from the overall death rates.

So, we do – as we look at our overall in force, we don’t have any great exposure to any one particular age. It’s pretty well spread out from really age 10 through age 50 is roughly, if you look at any 10-year period time, and it’s roughly the same percentage of our overall portfolio.

And then it kind of really goes down as you get to over age 60, but over age 50 in fact. So we don’t feel like we are overexposed into any one particular even if they are ends up being a vaccinated or unvaccinated condition..

Got it. And then maybe moving to the health side, you mentioned the favorable claims this quarter.

Was that just a continuation of lower benefits utilization? And if that’s the case, how are you thinking about that trend into the second half of the year for MedSup and other health products?.

Yes. On the MedSup, it’s largely more utilization. And what we are really seeing there is we are seeing higher utilization than we had in 2020 and really even higher utilization in 2019, but it is lower than what you would expect from a trend perspective.

So, it’s still running a little bit favorable if you kind of look at where ‘19 levels were and what we would expect from a normal trend perspective. On the accidents and in our cancer blocks that we really have is, let’s say, Liberty and American Income, those are – it’s more incurral.

It’s not so much of a utilization of services as it is just an incurral claim. And that’s where we are just seeing more – some just favorable incurral rates at this point in time. That’s really helped with some of the lower policy obligations in those particular lines as well as to some degree at Family Heritage..

Thank you.

And then one last follow-up just on MedSup, do you have any exposure to potential cost pressures from the new Alzheimer’s treatment, which I believe is covered under Medicare Part D.? Would any of that fall under MedSup or wouldn’t it?.

Yes, the – there would be potentially some exposure, but ultimately, we do have that included in our guidance..

Okay. Thank you..

[Operator Instructions] We will take our next question from Jimmy Bhullar with JPMorgan..

Hi. So, first, just a question on your direct response margins, obviously, they are pretty weak last quarter. They improved this quarter.

Other than just the impact of COVID, do you feel that this was a normal quarter overall or were there any sort of positive or negative puts and takes as you are thinking about long-term margins in the direct response business on the life side?.

Yes, Jimmy, as far as other changes what as you can see that we had lower amortization for the quarter and we – during the second quarter, we had adjusted our amortization rates throughout for all our distribution systems.

And we have seen a bigger impact on the direct response side, lowering that amortization rate that was 22% – a little over 22% versus 25% in the second quarter of last year. And that’s going to continue through the year. We should be at around 23% of premium for amortization in direct response versus over 25% last year.

The reason for that reduced amortization is two things. One is the increased sales and also the improved persistency, both first year and renewal. In addition to direct response, the high sales that we had last year were – the acquisition costs we had that were fixed, so the acquisition cost per policy last year, lower than it has been.

So, there is less DAC that we were putting on the books.

So, the combination of higher sales, lower acquisition cost per policy plus the improved persistency generating more premium revenue since we amortize our DAC over the premium revenue over the life of the policies, having that higher premium revenue has resulted in a lower amortization percentage.

We should again see that through the remainder of this year..

And then next year, would it reset based on what your views on persistency are for 2022?.

Yes..

Okay. And then on agent retention, I guess, given the improved labor market, especially in the services industry, it probably will affect your ability to recruit people.

But how do you think about how it affects your ability to retain the agents that you have hired over the past year because you have added a lot of agents? And do you see any sort of impacts on your agent retention trends as the economy continues to improve?.

We look at agent retention American Income, agent retention has increased over the last 2 years, and it’s a little early in 2021, measured obviously, 6 months and 9 months and 12 months retention. But based on the trend of American Income, we are seeing better agent retention. Liberty National and Family Heritage, the retention was largely unchanged.

I look at 2019 and ‘20, and again, it’s a little early to talk about retention. I think normal job opportunities, obviously, right now. So, I think terminations may be a little higher through the end of the year. At the same time, we expect our recruiting to increase as the economy returns to normal.

So, I think we will have normal retention and normal recruiting rates through the end of – particularly end of ‘21 going into ‘22..

And then typically, as agents get tenured, do you see a pickup in their productivity should – any reason to assume that the increase in agents over the past year or so won’t translate to sort of continued momentum on sales, regardless of what happens with new recruiting or are there other factors that might slowdown sales?.

Jimmy, can you repeat that question? Your connection is not….

You have added a lot of agents over the past years – over the past year. And regardless of what happens with recruiting, I would assume that the higher number of agents would result in strong sales. Obviously, the growth rates vary with comps and stuff.

But the absolute level of sales should be higher than they used to be pre-pandemic, just given the increased number of agents and especially as those agents get more and more tenured and their productivity increases.

But is that the correct assumption or are there other factors that you are thinking about as you are looking at your sales over the next year to 2 years?.

Thank you for repeating the question. Yes, that is our assumption. Obviously, the biggest driver of sales is going to be the increase in number of agents and the producing agent count is going to grow to the guidance we have given. The other driver was productivity, actually productivity is a little bit lower American Income Q2 ‘21 versus Q2 ‘20.

That’s because of the increase in agents, and new agents was a little less productive. So, as our agent growth from ‘19 and ‘20 translates into ‘21, all three agencies as those agents receive better training and as they become more veteran agents, you will see that increase, particularly we saw it in Family Heritage.

Q2 while the recruiting was off, we had a best quarter ever for productivity. We have had a 30% increase in health sales per agent. Q1 of ‘21 from sequentially and also we had a 45% increase in health sales per agent over the year ago quarter.

That’s because when recruiting was down as the agent of less recruiting had – we had more better agents productivity went up. We also saw a productivity increase of Liberty National that as we have more and more veteran agents, they are much more productive..

Okay. Thank you..

Thank you. And that concludes today’s question-and-answer session. I will now turn the call back to Mike Majors for closing remarks..

Alright. Thank you for joining us this morning. Those are our comments, and we will talk to you again next quarter..

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today’s call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect..