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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q2
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Executives

Corey Whitely - Executive Vice President, Administration and Chief Financial Officer Farooq Kathwari - President and Chief Executive Officer.

Analysts

Robert Griffin - Raymond James Financial, Inc. Bradley Thomas - KeyBanc Capital Markets Inc. Jeremy Hamblin - Dougherty & Company LLC John Baugh - Stifel Financial Corp. Justin Bergner - GAMCO Investors, Inc. Cristina Fernández - Telsey Advisory Group Matthew Kupersmith - Iron Compass Investors.

Operator

Good afternoon, and welcome to the Ethan Allen Fiscal 2018 Second Quarter Analyst Conference Call. It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Corey Whitely, Executive Vice President, Administration and CFO. Thank you. You may begin..

Corey Whitely

Yeah, thank you, Brandon. Good afternoon. And welcome to Ethan Allen's conference call for our fiscal second quarter ended December 31, 2017.

This conference call is being recorded and webcast live on ethanallen.com, where you will also find our press release, which contains supporting details including reconciliations of non-GAAP information referred to in the release and on this call.

As a reminder, our comments today will include forward-looking statements that are subject to various risks and uncertainties which could cause actual results to differ materially. Please refer to our SEC filings for a complete review of those risks.

The company assumes no obligation to update or revise any forward-looking matters discussed during this call. After our Chairman and CEO, Farooq Kathwari, provides his opening remarks, I will follow with some details on the financial results.

Farooq will then provide further updates on our ongoing business initiatives before opening up the telephone lines for questions. With that, here is Farooq Kathwari..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Corey, and welcome to our earnings call. Our second quarter sales were up 2%. They would have been higher. But due to bottlenecks on production and delay in shipments, we ended with wholesale backlogs increasing 56.8% and retail division backlogs increasing 7%. Several factors impacted our production, gross margins and shipments.

We processed a large U.S. State Department order of mostly new product to be delivered in 60 days as per contract, although a significant portion that was produced had to be held for shipment until our third quarter at their request. We were also affected by political events in Honduras this quarter.

These events are now resolved and production has resumed. Our adjusted EPS of $0.53, increased 35.9% from the prior year, helped by change in the tax laws. While we maintained a strong operating margin of 8.8%, we had the opportunity to have higher margins with more delivered sales.

While we are making good progress, expanding our business with the U.S. State Department, a worldwide residential furniture program, in our contract division and internationally, we need to increase written business in our North American retail network.

With many already initiatives underway, including continuing to develop a strong talented team, strengthening our offerings and the projections and the locations of our design centers and improvements in our production capabilities, we plan to substantially increase our marketing efforts in the third quarter.

We expect to increase our advertising expenditures by 33% in the third quarter and 15% in the fourth quarter from higher levels spent last year in the third and fourth quarters. After Corey gives a brief overview, I will discuss our initiatives in greater detail..

Corey Whitely

Thank you, Farooq. With the second quarter of fiscal 2018, our consolidated net sales increased 2% to $198.5 million.

Wholesale sales increased 3.8% on stronger international and Department of State shipments, while retail sales decreased 2.1%, primarily due to delayed shipments to retail as we geared up our manufacturing, especially with the impact of new products during the quarter.

At the end of the second quarter, our retail division backlog was up 7% from December 31, 2016. And the wholesale backlog was up 56.8%, which includes the Department of State order backlog. We ended the quarter with 148 company operated design centers and that compared to 146 in the prior year quarter.

Our international sales were 10% of consolidated sales during the quarter, which compared to 8.5% in the prior year quarter. Our consolidated gross margin for the quarter was 54.3% and was impacted primarily by the mix of retail segment net sales to consolidated net sales for the quarter, which was 77.1% compared to 80.3% in the prior year quarter.

Our adjusted operating expenses were $90.6 million compared to $91 million in the prior year. Adjusted operating margin was 8.7% and adjusted net income of $0.53 per share compared to $0.39 in the prior year quarter. Adjusted EBITDA was 11.2% of sales.

The adjustments in the current year quarter included $0.3 million favorable adjustment to restructuring costs, there were no adjustments in the prior year quarter. Our effective tax rate was 16% for the quarter and 23.5% for fiscal first half, as a result of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act.

We expect our effective rate for the next two quarters will be about 30.5%, and for fiscal 2019, we expect effective rate to be about 24% to 25%. The second quarter rate benefited by 14.6% as we provisionally remeasured deferred tax assets and liabilities. We have a strong balance sheet.

At December 31, 2017 we had no debt outstanding under our credit facility. Our total cash and securities totaled $49.1 million. During the quarter, we paid out dividends of $5.2 million, an increase of 11% compared to the prior year quarter.

And we invested in capital expenditures of $2.3 million for the quarter compared to $3.8 million in the prior year quarter. We expect about $14 million in capital expenditures for the second half. At December 31, 2017, customer deposits were $58.6 million and inventory of $160.8 million was in line with our backlogs.

With that, I'll turn it back over to Farooq..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Corey. As I mentioned our major focus is to increase traffic to our retail and digital market spaces to increase sales. And we plan to launch a major advertising campaign to further create desire and action. Broadcast medium will be a major factor in this increase advertising. We are in an advantageous position to make major investments.

Our offerings continue to be strengthened. We recently launched the Passport collection in early spring; we will launch the Uptown collection; and this summer we will introduce an important assortment that's classic, modern and youthful with a smaller scale and even more attractive pricing.

The increase in our third quarter advertising spending reflects about 33% increase from higher levels spent in the last year third quarter. In our fourth quarter, we plan to increase our advertising spending by about 15% also from the higher levels of 2017 fiscal fourth quarter.

We also continue to focus on our priorities including on talent, we operate vertically integrated business from design to manufacturing to retail and logistics, and we continue to strengthen our teams. For the retail division, we continue to create more, what I say our entrepreneurial manageable business units.

At corporate, we continue to strengthen our teams in merchandising and design, and we have made the important addition of two senior executives to our marketing advertising team in the last quarter. Increasing capacities in manufacturing and improving service capabilities is important.

About 75% of our furniture is made in our North American facilities, with about 65% of furniture custom made on receipt of order, while this is a major positive point of differentiation for us, managing inventories, creates issues when orders surge.

Our focus is to increase production and also manage this major differentiation from service perspective. Technology is also tremendously a focus, combining the work of our 1,500 in-house interior designers with technology is an important initiative.

We are in the process of deploying an augmented reality app for mobile devices along clients to visualize furniture in their rooms, we expect to launch it in March. About 600 of our interior designers have been improved by us to do online live chat with clients.

We've also launched a reputation management system to monitor and manage consumer reviews in social media online, and we are adding necessary technology in our manufacturing facilities to increase production and efficiency. Finally operating our business with utmost attention to social responsibility continues to be a strong focus.

Our enterprise relies on our ten leadership principles, which state that good governance is good for the bottom line. And we maintain our focus on the environment, safe processes, social conscience, diversity, technology and a corporate culture to support our associates. I am now pleased to open for questions or comments..

Corey Whitely

Yeah, Brandon, go ahead and open it up then..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] And your first question comes from Bobby Griffin..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah.

Hi, Bobby, how are you?.

Robert Griffin

Good. How about you? Thank you for taking my questions. Good afternoon to you and Corey. Just quickly, I want to make sure I understood the comments about the tax rate in the quarter.

So 14.5% was the benefit you guys referenced for the revaluation of the tax liabilities, is that correct?.

Corey Whitely

Yes, about 14.6% was deferred tax assets and the - deferred tax liability revaluation..

Robert Griffin

Okay. And then, Corey, I couldn't hear. With the rate for the next two quarters what was the rate that you referenced that is? My microphone was breaking up when you were talking, I'm sorry..

Corey Whitely

Oh, sorry. It was about, what we said is 30.5% would be for the next two quarters..

Robert Griffin

Okay, perfect, I appreciate - appreciate that detail. And then, I wanted to talk about, I guess, on the retail segment, the written orders, any color on how kind of the quarter progressed? In the pre-release you guys mentioned January was up.

But we ended - I guess, we ended last quarter with kind of close to 2% written growth and it kind of fell off, was that coincide with the drop in advertisement in the quarter or how should we think about that to get a better understanding of kind of the trends?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

You're talking of written?.

Robert Griffin

Yeah, I'm talking about written. In this quarter, I guess, the comp written was down 6.2% and total was down 5.8%, and last quarter it ended kind of on a positive note. So I was just trying to hope to get some more detail about what progressed during this quarter to change the trend..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Corey, go ahead..

Corey Whitely

Yeah, Bobby, there's probably two parts to it. One is the advertising as we recall in the first half - first quarter was lower than where we were in the prior year quarter. So as we moved into the second quarter, advertising was up just slightly. And we increase it as we went through the quarter.

So we did see written sales progress as the quarter progressed. December was actually our strongest month in the quarter from a comparative standpoint. And that's how we saw it..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

That's right. I think, Bobby, also just giving a color on this whole question of advertising, now we are making a major commitment to increase advertising. In fact, if you take a look at it, when we take a look at our advertising on quarter two, was a little bit lower than in fiscal 2016.

But in quarter three of last fiscal, that is fiscal 2017, we had increased our advertising quite a bit. Now, we have gone from $9.4 million to $11.4 million, and now we are talking of increasing it by approximately another 33% on this base of 11.4%.

Now, the reason is this, that - and it's an important differentiation and I believe will make an impact. We have to a great degree relied, for lots of reasons, on print as our major advertising mediums. Direct mail has been a very important one.

Now, this quarter, while we are going to increase our advertising, we are going to have some direct mail, but we are also going to have a very strong television broadcast this quarter and similarly in the next quarter. And we believe that has an opportunity of raising - of reaching a lot of people.

Now, the issue really is that while we are spending a lot more money, keep in mind, in 2016 third quarter we spent $9.4 million and now we are talking of spending over $15 million. It's because of the fact that in this broadcast medium, unless you really make a great impact, you are spending money and may not be getting the benefit.

So that's why we are going to now take a major - will make a major investment I would say in advertising. But the mediums are going to be different..

Robert Griffin

Okay. I appreciate that detail. And then, I guess, one more follow-up for me on the retail, so I noticed that two stores were closed during the quarter.

From a modeling standpoint, how should we think about company-owned stores going forward or should we expect you guys - were those, I guess, is relocations that we should expect to reopen going forward? Are those permanently closed? And is there any meaningful EBIT impact that I should account for, for the next four quarters as those roll out of the comp base?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No, actually, if you take a look at, in the second quarter, our company owned increased by 2. In the United States, our dealer went down by 3. So our company, we have 148 locations..

Robert Griffin

I'm sorry, Farooq, I was looking….

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, you're right, we're down 2. But approximately it will go - approximately remain the same, Bobby. I'm sorry, yeah..

Robert Griffin

Okay, that's all. I was just curious if those were going to open back up as part of relocations in future quarters, but no worries..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Right, yeah..

Robert Griffin

Okay. And that is all my questions. Oh, sorry, one more I had on list. I apologize.

But from the production standpoint, now that we think about the government kind of being on - you got a little bit more understanding of the cadence that they're going to be ordering, should we kind of assume that the production - kind of the production shift between you guys were having to balance, making orders for retail or making orders for government? Should we assume that is kind of on a cadence that's more manageable now going forward?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Oh, yeah, absolutely. You see what happened was this that we got almost all these orders it was in September, which is the last month of the government fiscal year. And according to our contract, we are supposed to have made it in 60 days and ship it in 60 days. And lot of that product was new.

So it did really complicate our lives, but - and we made it. So, now, the good news is we have shipped it and we also are in a better position with our manufacturing, having made the products, because every time, the first time is always inefficient. Considering that, we still ended up with 11.8% operating margin with all those inefficiencies.

But right now, we're in a good position..

Robert Griffin

All right, I really appreciate all the detail and the time you guys for answering my questions. Best of luck going forward..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you, Bobby..

Operator

And your next question comes from Brad Thomas from KeyBanc Capital Markets..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, hi, Brad.

How are you?.

Bradley Thomas

Hi, good afternoon, Farooq. Good afternoon, Corey.

How are you all doing?.

Corey Whitely

Hi, Brad..

Bradley Thomas

Good. Couple of follow-up questions, if I could here on Bobby's. I guess, first, starting with the question maybe about the backlog. Clearly, that's both at wholesale and retail.

Can you give us a sense for how big that is, what the magnitude of that is in dollar terms, so we can maybe try to get a sense of the tailwind that you may have behind you as you work down that backlog?.

Corey Whitely

Brad, we don't have those backlog numbers that we give out every quarter. And I don't think we want to start doing that either. But that said, a lot of the wholesale backlog was the State Department, the orders that we brought in. We had shipped out just a portion of it.

We had probably about a third of the orders that we shipped, and two-thirds of it was still on backlog at December 31. And that's what's shipping now. So a lot of it was related to that and then the rest is what we're catching up on the retail backlog, which was up 7%. So that, I think that as we move forward, you'll see that now normalize..

Bradley Thomas

Got you. Okay, okay. And then, just as we think about some of the manufacturing challenges that you've gone through as you've expanded the assortment to cater to the State Department, it sounds like we're pretty close to that being worked up and being more efficient.

So, I guess, as we think about maybe the efficiencies of the plans and the gross margin on a normalized rate, do you feel like the underlying gross margin trend should be more back to normal on the - as you move into the fiscal third quarter? And what kind of gross margin drag might we still see as some of these products are moving through the system for the State Department?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Brad, our gross margin as you know consists of gross margin from the retail as well as the gross margin from our wholesale business. So the percentage of retail to total sales is an important factor. So the gross margins are important.

So they are in fact, like for instance, this last quarter, our gross margins were lower, mostly due to - there were some impact due to manufacturing. But they're mostly lower due to the fact that our retail sales as a component of total sales were lower. So keep that in perspective.

So it also depends about how much of business we are going to do at the wholesale level in the contract business, in the government business, although they're very, very good, it might while we're showing a lower gross margin the opportunity of increasing the operating margin is better. So keep that in perspective..

Bradley Thomas

Got you.

And so just at a high level, do you think that the third quarter would still potentially have a lower gross margin trend just because you're still working through, some of these newer State Department projects - product and that they're hitting the P&L, and it may take other quarter here before you maybe start to gain some of this back?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. I think, that's a good assumption, but again as I said the opportunity is on the operating margin side, but it's possible that gross margin could be lower, because of the higher component of wholesale to total sales..

Bradley Thomas

Great, great. Okay.

Maybe two more housekeeping items, if I could just on Amazon, Farooq, I was hoping for an update on how that is progressing for you?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

It is progressing and it's an interesting observations we are getting.

Yes, we are getting some sales slower than what I thought, but what we're now seeing is that people go to Amazon, they buy some, but they also end up coming to our retail design centers that's what we thought would happen but more of that is taking place, because people want to see the product taste - feel it, taste it and also meet our designers, that's the positive things we are seeing..

Bradley Thomas

Great.

And then just with respect to tax reform obviously you all have a lower tax rate as you've talked about - you are increasing marketing here, but I guess just ask you directly, Farooq, are you in the team changing, how you all approach business and how you want to spend money in higher in advertise, because of the lower tax rate or tax reform at all or is that tax change not having any impact on and how you're thinking about the business?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No.

Well, Brad, we alwayslike the fact that we're going to get some credits and money is always good, I think on an annual basis, we most probably would get close to $10 million or so in that range, Corey?.

Corey Whitely

About $6 million to $8 million, overall….

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Depends on our - $6 million to $10 million depends on what our business is. So it is important, but not that critical. More critical is the fact that we are spending money on our marketing. We're spending on capital expenditures. Yes, it's having an impact, in fact today we also gave a special - the payable date was today for our special dividend.

Was it about $13 million?.

Corey Whitely

Right, with the total dividend..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

The total dividend, because it was a special and the regular, so we today gave out $13 million out, Brad. So I wish, we've gotten that kind of a money. So we did that. But we are going to spend money on marketing, and fortunately we are in a decent position to do that..

Bradley Thomas

Got you. Well, thank you so much. Now I'll turn it over to someone else. Thanks again..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right, Brad..

Operator

And your next question comes from Jeremy Hamblin from Dougherty & Company..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hello, gentleman..

Jeremy Hamblin

Hi, good evening, Farooq and Corey. Thanks for taking the questions. I need to see if we can clarify a little bit more precision on a couple of things that have been brought up.

The first is when we look at the gross margins, you are really have been running at very nice run rate over the last couple of years you saw fairly significant step back to 54.3%, you called out a few one-off items that might have had a little bit of drag.

But I think when we need to get clarity on is you really have been running above 55% for the last two years. This was the lowest level and almost three years with the 54.3%. I want to understand that there is not something that's a little more structural here whether it's a State Department contract or whatnot.

I think it's you look at retail as a percentage of total sales it was 77.1% and that's down 300 basis points from a year-ago, but as I look forward to Q3 you had like 78.6% last year retail sales as a percent of total.

I think what I'm trying to ask you is, do we see a similar step down like should we be thinking that retail as a percent of total sales in Q3 as more or like 75% to 76% of total sales? Or - and tied into this question is, you've said that you've now shipped a lot of these State Department orders, but clearly you didn't ship nearly the amount in the December quarter that you had expected when you hosted the call in October.

So I am trying to put those two things together to make sure that the expectations are appropriate for where your gross margins are as well as your sales level in Q3.

Can you help me out in providing more color?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Let me give you some and maybe Corey will add to that. Gross margins at retail was still slightly lower this quarter than last quarter, and that reflects again that like everybody else, we do we are under some pressure of giving higher discounts.

And in fact, a lot of that happened where we gave free delivery and that had an impact on our gross margin. So that pressure is there, but I think that we have the opportunity of managing that pressure. So that's one element, in addition to the fact of retail sales to total sales.

Second one is somewhat of a pressure on gross margins at retail and slightly we also had some pressure of gross margins on our manufacturing at the wholesale level, because of these inefficiencies and production delays. So those are the three factors that had an impact on gross margin.

But as I said, you're right we've got to keep that in perspective, where I think as we move forward, you got to keep your perspective also on the operating margins..

Jeremy Hamblin

Totally I agree with that. I guess the point as we need the appropriate starting point, and I think what you've communicated is, we're past some of those one-off issues, we don't anticipate any from here.

And so if we kind of have this 55% starting point, is that an area where you feel comfortable, Corey or Farooq, as where expectations should be on gross margins?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Well, from quarter to quarter, it's possible, it will vary, but around that range of 55% is where we should be..

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay. Fair enough. The second point is on the marketing side. I think, as I do my calculation versus what you've disclosed last year, it looks like about $4 million increase to your marketing spend in this March quarter.

Corey, is that a pretty correct calculation?.

Corey Whitely

Yes..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yes, it is..

Jeremy Hamblin

And then, about $2 million in the June quarter? Where do you - how does that compared to the, let's say, embedded structural SG&A run rate that you've been at, because last couple of quarters you've been really more or like $89 million to $90 million.

I think, in theory, this would assume that you are going to be running more or like $90 - maybe $93 million in SG&A in total?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

I think, Jeremy, you are on the right track, it could be close to $94 million, $95 million. More closer to $94 million or so at that run rate. And of course, it also depends on how much of written business we write, because our - that has an impact on our sales, incentives and commissions so that has an impact too.

But that would be related - that is impacted by increase in sales. So you've got keep all of those perspectives in line. But if you think about on a flat basis increase in - if we have no increase in sales then from a perspective of our operating expenses will be in the close to $94 million range..

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay. Fair enough. I want to come back to State Department and finish with that. So I think the statement you made was that - you've made really good progress on those deliveries. You didn't come close to the expectations you had in October on your deliveries.

My gut says you're probably not going to fully catch up in this March quarter on your deliveries, but where do you stand on clearing through some of that backlog? Are you still going to be reporting in April that your backlogs are up 30%, 40%, 50%? Or do you feel like that will mostly be cleared through? And that's part one of the question.

The second part is, are you continuing….

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No, let's do it one at a time, Brad..

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay. Go ahead..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

I am sorry, Jeremy. Jeremy, I would hope that we got a very, very strong increase in backlog, but I don't think it is going to be because of the past business from the State Department that most of it will be shipping. We are getting new orders.

But as I said, they do tend to give to write a lot of orders to us middle and towards the end of the fiscal year, so our order rate is - as we are getting orders, but they're relatively small compared to what we got in September.

So I think as we stand right now, the State Department is not going to be a major factor in the backlogs going into our fourth quarter..

Jeremy Hamblin

Are you continuing to - I gather that probably in this quarter the order rates on an absolute dollar basis were quite a bit lower than the September quarter just because of the fiscal year end and kind of all the budgetary concerns going on in the government.

But as a share of the total business that's out there, are you still winning well over 50%?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

That's what we hear..

Jeremy Hamblin

Okay, great. Thanks, guys. Good luck..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right, Jeremy. Thanks..

Operator

And your next question comes from John Baugh from Stifel..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hello, John..

John Baugh

Hello, Farooq. Hello, Corey. Good evening. Thank you for taking my question. Several have been answered already, but I guess, I wanted to go back to your Amazon comment. And you said your experience to some degree has been people coming into the store, which is obviously good if that's happening.

But I'm trying to square that with the 6% down written order comment.

It - is it that these people are still putting together their thoughts that have been steered to your store from Amazon? They just haven't written an order yet? Or no, you really are getting orders from these people, but your day-to-day business is down on a steeper percentage from 6%? I know it's early, but I'm just trying to get a sense of how much traffic you really think you are benefiting the store from Amazon, if any..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

We are. But John, it's still relatively small. I mean, it is not something that I can say we have major business coming in from folks going to Amazon and coming to us. I think it's incremental, it's growing every month, still it's like the Disney program, it's just growing but at a smaller rate. We're doing better with Disney in China.

We just opened a Disney in the Middle East this past week. It's small, incremental, but not enough to make a difference to our - these numbers..

John Baugh

Okay. And then any issues as we think about manufacturing costs? A lot of materials and energy have moved here, and I'm wondering if there's any concern there.

I know you took pricing, I believe, it was last summer, but how's the pricing decision working out versus input costs?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Well, it is a good question, John, that our raw material costs have significant increases in the upholstery material segment of our business. We've seen increases driven from plywood, foam, packaging materials, so they have been significant.

And we are also considering in the next few months of a price increase to - just for these increases in upholstery material costs, which is, of course, as you know has been faced by our industry as well..

John Baugh

Okay. And lastly, you talked a fair bit about marketing and increasing it. It wasn't clear to me. Are you - and you mentioned TV.

Are you increasing digital or mobile or online or whatever you want to call it, of total dollars year over - is the mix changing more to TV? Or no, more to digital, but you're going to still be spending more on TV year-over-year?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

We are going to substantially spend more on national television and digital, somewhat less on print..

John Baugh

Okay. Okay. And can you help us when will - sorry, I don't stay glued to the TV. When will we see these, if we haven't already start to see them hit? Give us a feel for - because, I know there's a lag between when you advertise and when you hopefully write business.

And then that ties into some degree to whatever monthly or quarterly promotions you're doing.

So I'm trying to think about that when we talk 90 days from now, how this all plays out, hopefully in higher written orders? Or will we be measuring it on something else, because it's lagged?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

John, again a good question. Most of our advertising in broadcast is going to start in the first week of March. So March is going to be very, very strong. And as I said earlier, unless you do it very, very strong even on a national basis, you do not get any that much of a benefit.

So we look upon the fact that we have an opportunity of increasing our business this quarter in written, and the impact of that in deliveries should be in our fourth quarter. We will, of course, continue our increase in advertising, including our - this digital and broadcast in the fourth quarter as well..

John Baugh

Okay. But it sounds a little bit back-end-loaded in the quarter, at least, in terms of the advertising dollar spent..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

That's right. And as you may know, we already sent a beautiful direct mail, which you might have received in January and February we sent 5 million copies of that. But then, in March, really, as I said, we are accelerating, increasing our exposure, advertising for lots of reasons. As I said, we are more ready today.

We are more ready in our offerings; we are ready in our retail. Now what do we have to make sure also is, which is that we are also able to produce it. And I mentioned that we have a fair - a large portion of our business is done custom.

That's great, but it also create issues, which is what we saw when we got all these Amazon orders, because of the fact that we don't have a lot of excess capacity, people sitting on the sites. I'm sorry, the State Department. What did I say? Yeah, you got me. I was thinking Amazon, John, State Department..

John Baugh

State Department. Yes, I got it..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

So we will - yeah. So this managing gap, I think, it's important. So what you're going to see is that we should benefit strongly in our written this quarter, that's expectation. And then with that expectation, we should be having a strong delivery in the fourth quarter..

John Baugh

Okay. And then my last question is simply on the - you mentioned having to discount a little bit more that's not atypical from what we're seeing everywhere.

Could you give us a sense of what you did in the December quarter? And I guess, year-over-year would be the best in terms of discounting, and how the March quarter year-over-year may set up similarly or differently? Thank you..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah. We did increase our - some of the discounts, and again, volume is a very important factor in our overall business. So that when we had a lowest delivered and somewhat lower written, you'll see that impact on our gross margins, in our operating margins. So our operating gross margins are impacted by lower deliveries.

So while we may have had given more - some discounts, but keep in mind the lower delivery has as much an impact on our margins as discounts. So with higher increase in volume, we have an impact both on the gross margin and an operating level with increase in volumes. So decreased volume had an impact on gross margins and some increase in discounting..

John Baugh

Yeah, I was just curious, will there be any incremental or kind of a similar discounting level? I get that you certainly hope to ship more, particularly to the State Department, in the March quarter.

I'm just curious as whether the planned discounts are fairly similar year-over-year, or even maybe more aggressive?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No. It will be about similar, John..

John Baugh

Okay. All right. Thank you very much for taking my questions, and good luck..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right. Thank you..

Operator

And your next question comes from Justin Bergner from Gabelli & Company..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Hello, Justin..

Justin Bergner

Hi, Farooq. Hi, Corey. A couple of questions of mine that, I guess, haven't been asked yet. If you could provide just a little bit more detail on the Passport collection and the timing they are in and how that will relate to your stepped up advertising that would be helpful..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Justin, the Passport collection overall was well received. And of course, our main advertising medium was direct mail. And it was - it went into our design centers, mostly towards the end of our second quarter. So from retail, we are hearing good news.

And now the uptown is getting into our design centers around in March, so we will also be marketing that. And I would think that we've had good reviews internally, externally. We need more traffic to our digital as well as our design centers.

If we do that I think the Passport along with our other programs have a good opportunity of increasing business..

Justin Bergner

Okay.

And just on the uptown, what - how will that be different than anything that you currently have in your stores?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

The uptown, as the name implies is somewhat more, you might say, more of the up - formal product but, of course, relaxed today. So while the Passport was more on the relaxed side, and before that we introduced Brooklyn and Santa Monica and others, so uptown basically is the new, you might say the new traditional.

And then as I mentioned, we are right now working, our teams are working on introducing the next product line for summer, which will again - which will then go in reaching more of you might say, more of the younger people, the millennials as well as our current customer base..

Justin Bergner

Okay. Got it. And then, on the Disney sales, I mean, I think in the past you mentioned that maybe that was revenueing around a $15 million annual rate if I recall correctly.

Is that still sort of the ballpark that it's in or is it materially jumped up from that?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No, it's approximately in that range, Justin..

Justin Bergner

Okay. One or two more if I may.

Given the manufacturing issues and the need to deliver the State Department contract, is it possible that you could estimate for us the degree to which your retail comparable store sales or written orders might have been1 affected in the second quarter?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

You're talking about delivered. And that delivered, we had increase in backlog in the delivered of 7%. And that had an impact of that 7% not being delivered.

A 7% increase in delivery in the retail that have increased our gross margins, increased our operating margins, and we would have - we did well, but we would have done very, very well, by delivering that, that 7%, because that incremental volume really helps increase our profitability across the board..

Justin Bergner

Okay, got it. And then, just one clarification question. If I add up the profit in the wholesale and retail segments, I end up with something sort of on the order of high $14 million. And your operating income adjusted basis is $17.2 million. So there's like a meaningful positive that is part of the reconciliation to your overall operating income.

Could you maybe clarify, Corey, what that relates to?.

Corey Whitely

Yeah, it's between the consolidation of the wholesale and retail. It's the intercompany profit adjustment that's made..

Justin Bergner

I guess it was unusually large sort of just tracking sort of the history of the company over the last couple of years.

Is there any reason why it's so large, just sort of the greater wholesale - I mean, is there something that's going to cause that number to stay sort of in the $2 million to $3 million range or is this just more of an outlier?.

Corey Whitely

Yeah, it kind of fluctuates all over if you look at it over time. It really - there's a number of factors that go into it between changes of inventory between wholesale and retail. And then the - and also how much retail sales versus the wholesale sales, so it's - and on also the margins. So there are a number of factors that influence that.

I wouldn't necessarily look to model that in. We don't look at that, when we work with our models..

Justin Bergner

Okay. I mean, there is no like - if the fact that retail is lower as a percentage of overall sales wouldn't sort of skew that number consistently higher going forward..

Corey Whitely

No, it would not..

Justin Bergner

Okay, thanks for that back and forth. I appreciate you taking my questions..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right, Justin, thanks.

Brandon?.

Operator

And your next question comes from Cristina Fernández from Telsey Advisors..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, hello, Cristina..

Cristina Fernández

Hi, good afternoon. I wanted to see if you could provide a little bit more color in the marketing initiative. I wanted to understand if the messaging that you are going to be showing around the brand is changing. And should we think about it as you are going to be in the same networks with more time? Or are you adding, expanding the number of T.V.

networks you're using to reach a wider customer? Just more color there would be helpful..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, Cristina, really we haven't had, for some time, national advertising, television broadcast advertising at the level we are talking about now. So, this is going to be major for us in terms of broadcast media. And the messaging is also very, very important.

And you're going to see - you have taken a look at our direct mail for January I assume, and you saw the projection, the color, the details, it's all in the details and with the story. And so you're going to see us talk about the details that what differentiates Ethan Allen in a very attractive manner.

And this is something we've not done at the level we are going to do starting in March..

Cristina Fernández

Okay. That's helpful.

And as it relates to the contract work, the other work you're doing as far as with some other hotels how is that progressing? Are there any new initiatives on that side of the business?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

As you know, we have this first major undertaking with the Margaritaville projects in Orlando. We are just in the process of also starting to furnish the model homes in Daytona Beach. There we're building another thousand homes.

And we are also in the process of furnishing a hotel, Margaritaville Ethan Allen Hotel in Orlando, and also right now, working on another hotel in the West Coast. So yes, we're making progress, and I believe that we will continue to make progress in the contract business..

Cristina Fernández

And then just lastly, when you look at the new collections that are launching in the spring and the summer, how is the complexity of manufacturing that product different from Passport and, I guess, the State Department where you had the few issues? Thanks..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Well, keep in mind it's not the complexity of the product. The question was that it's also related to the structure of our business. And we, of course, are making some adjustments to it. When I said that we have a great, great advantage of having 1,500 interior designers, then it's about 65% of the business we get every day is custom business.

That is great advantage, but then all of a sudden - when incremental business is thrown to it from the outside, we then have to react in terms of creating capacities. So we are increasing capacities. Our model is not that of a manufacturer who receives orders and then makes them, and - or a retailer that builds a lot of inventory and sells it.

That's why our inventory management is very good at Ethan Allen. But we are adjusting to the fact of providing for making products in our North America and offshore, because some of this product is being made offshore.

Certainly, our operations in North America, including Vermont, North Carolina, Mexico, Honduras; they're all now, we're getting ready to not only make custom product, but to have some capacities for making this contract. Now, the contract comes with a very short delivery time, as we had initially on this U.S.

State Department that did create lots of issues. But I think as we get contract, where there is lead times that are sensible that we can meet then we have no problems or less problems..

Corey Whitely

Next year, I'll just add that for State Department, we'll have a little bit better understanding of what to expect and we got it prepared as we move into that final quarter..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

And also, we - these were the first time we made those products. These are all - lot of these were new products. And we all had to make them at a time when we were busy making our custom products, then this came in. Good news is we've gone through a lot of that, so - and I think moving forward, we're in a better position, Cristina..

Cristina Fernández

Thank you. And good luck to your next quarter..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Thank you..

Operator

And your next question comes from Matt Kupersmith from [Iron New Compass] [ph]..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

Yeah, hi, good - good afternoon, excuse me, Matt, yeah..

Matthew Kupersmith

Hi, guys. Thanks for taking the question. I just wanted to come back. It looks on - like on the national T.V. advertising, you guys ran it for President's Day last year.

What was the decision-making process not to have it for the holiday this year? And I guess how should we think about that impacting the quarter?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

I think that most probably, Matt, to look at it we may have done some advertising at the regional levels, so that of course from a person's viewing point of view, it's hard to tell whether it's national or local. We have been doing some T.V. For instance, we've been doing T.V. in local markets.

Even today, like in New Jersey we have television going on at a local level and in many markets. But this is - the difference here is this is going to be done at a national level and in major television networks.

And a lot of it is just going to be paid at the corporate level rather than at the retail, either the retail is - are company operated or are independents. I mean, they do it at a local level, the retail pace. This is going to be done at a national level by the corporate..

Matthew Kupersmith

Got it. Okay.

So you were saying there was no national advertising last year for President's Day?.

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

No, I don't think so. Corey, I don't remember having any national. And if we did, it was mostly local - regional, not national..

Matthew Kupersmith

Got it. Okay. All right, thank you..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right, Matt.

Brandon?.

Operator

[Operator Instructions] We have no questions in queue at this time..

Farooq Kathwari Chairman of the Board, President & Chief Executive Officer

All right, Brandon, thank you and thanks everybody. These are - I think that the steps we are taking are very important steps in terms of taking our business to the next level. Some of you have always wanted me to really advertise, to spend more money.

So we're going to spend a lot more money than anybody thought we were going to do, but we are ready to do it. So look forward to with all of this increased business and keeping our plants busy. And hopefully, with all that business, we have an opportunity of having continued strong profitability..

Operator

And this does conclude today's conference call. You may now disconnect..

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