Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. Welcome to Enerpac Tool Group's Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. [Operator Instructions]. As a reminder, this conference is being recorded March 24, 2021. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Bobbi Belstner, Director of Investor Relations and Strategy. Please go ahead, Ms. Belstner..

Thank you, Operator. Good morning, and thank you for joining us for Enerpac Tool Group's Second Quarter Fiscal '21 Earnings Conference Call. On the call today to present the company's results are Randy Baker, President and Chief Executive Officer; Rick Dillon, Chief Financial Officer; and Jeff Schmaling, Chief Operating Officer.

Also with us are Barb Bolens, Chief Strategy Officer; Fab Rasetti, General Counsel; and Bryan Johnson, Chief Accounting Officer. Our earnings release and slide presentation for today's call are available on our website at enerpactoolgroup.com in the Investors section. We are also recording this call and will archive it on our website.

During today's call, we will reference non-GAAP measures such as adjusted profit margins and adjusted earnings. You can find a reconciliation of non-GAAP to GAAP measures in the schedules to this morning's release.

We also would like to remind you that we will be making statements in today's call and presentation that are not historical facts and are considered forward-looking statements. We are making those statements pursuant to the safe harbor provisions of federal securities law.

Please see our SEC filings for the risks and other factors that may cause actual results to differ materially from forecasts, anticipated results or other forward-looking statements.

Consistent with how we've conducted prior calls, we ask that you follow our 1 question, 1 follow-up practice in order to keep today's call to an hour and also allow us to address questions from as many participants as possible. Thank you in advance for your cooperation. Now I will turn the call over to Randy..

Thanks, Bobbi, and good morning, everybody. We're going to start today on Slide 3. And before we review the details on the quarter, I'd like to provide an overview of Enerpac's progress and our recovery from the global pandemic.

As always, safety is our #1 concern for our employees worldwide, and as of today, we still have approximately 40% working from home offices. In the quarter, we were affected by regional spikes in the infection, resulting in full border closures in the Middle East.

We responded by returning to the broad lockdown processes we've been using throughout the pandemic. Unfortunately, this did have an impact on our sales and slowed our recovery progress. Despite these factors, we were able to improve the performance in the quarter to near parity with our first quarter results.

This is not our typical cycle within a fiscal year as the second quarter is normally a low point for both sales and profit. Secondly, our cost efforts continue to support very positive decremental margins, which are in line with our expectations of 35% to 45%.

As I discussed in prior quarters, we have protected our ability to execute the long-term strategy, including new product development, sales coverage and our capital allocation priorities.

Our focus on the balance sheet has enabled us to pay down an additional $45 million in debt in the quarter, which further enhances the long-term performance of Enerpac. And lastly, as we emerge from the pandemic, Enerpac is focusing on developing and improving our company.

We firmly believe without engaged, well-trained employees, we cannot successfully execute our strategy. And with that in mind, we have launched programs to recruit, develop and retain team members and ensure everyone is proud to be part of Enerpac. Moving over to Slide 4.

Our weekly and monthly sales is our most monitored metrics we use to understand the progression towards full recovery. And consistent with prior quarters, this chart provides a graphical representation of our normal operating range and the actual results experienced in the quarter.

As you can see, the second quarter was firmly back within the operating range of a normal year with the upward trend we expect. We believe this progress will continue through the balance of the fiscal year and position Enerpac at near normal levels as we progress through the third and fourth quarter. Flipping over to Slide 5.

As I mentioned earlier, the second quarter was essentially flat with our first quarter results. Core sales declined by 11% in the quarter, comprised of down 11% in products and 12% in service. The increase in infection rate experienced in the quarter resulted in border closures in several Middle Eastern countries, which slowed our recovery.

Absent these factors, the top line would have been very close to achieving our prior year sales. Our adjusted EBITDA decremental margin was 29% or at the low end of our expected range. And year-to-date, we have achieved a 21% decremental result. Our focus on cost controls continues to pay dividends and help protect our ability to execute this strategy.

Free cash flow in the quarter was positive, which is not the typical result for our second quarter. And on a year-to-date basis, we have improved our free cash flow by more than $40 million year-over-year. This enabled Enerpac to pay down an additional $45 million in debt and exit the quarter with a leverage of 2.1.

Sales results varied by region but were consistent with prior quarters. Europe and Asia Pacific have been our best-performing regions in terms of consistency and progress towards normal sales volume. The Americas improved sequentially during the quarter but are still in the mid-teens decline versus prior year.

And as earlier mentioned, Mid East operations was affected by border closures, which resulted in a decline year-over-year in the low double-digit range. Overall, we are progressing towards normal sales in operating ranges and delivering increasing profitability.

Now I'm going to turn the call over to Jeff and Rick to review the details on the quarter, and then I'll come back with the market projection and some forward guidance. Jeff, over to you..

Thanks, Randy. I'll add some detail on Q2 from a regional perspective as well as touch on some of our key verticals and distribution. And then I'll finish up on Enerpac operations and a few comments about the Cortland business.

As a general comment, I think you'll see that this past quarter continues to confirm the significant differences in how our global markets are recovering as well as how the various countries and regions we serve are responding to the continued challenges of this pandemic. Starting on Slide 6.

In total, we're pleased to see continued sequential year-over-year improvement in both product and service sales in the second quarter. Despite still being down year-over-year, we're encouraged by the feedback from our distributors about their businesses and the strong quoting activity that we're seeing in our primary markets.

We'll start with the Americas. And as I said, dealer sentiment has turned noticeably more positive, and there's a general consensus that most will be getting back to pre-COVID activity levels in the coming months.

We saw an increase in overall in-stocking orders in both January and February and another decline in our drop ship rates, which further confirms that our dealers' confidence is improving.

We're also seeing some positive indicators from our OEMs and national account business, and we did see a sequential increase in our backlog for these accounts in the quarter, which is starting to look more like our normal pre-COVID levels.

The severe weather that caught Texas by surprise in February also contributed to some missed product and service revenues around the Gulf. Some of these issues, however, coupled with the strengthening -- or the continuing strength in oil prices may offer some opportunities to recover some of this as we move into the third quarter.

Looking at our vertical markets, general construction and power gen, specifically wind, continue to improve in the U.S. as well as growing demand in mining in Western Canada and our oil sands customers. Strong copper and iron ore pricing and demand continues to give our mining distributors opportunities in Chile, Peru and Brazil.

However, we are continuing to struggle a bit with COVID restrictions in Mexico. Our ability to visit customer sites and dealers is slowly improving, and we're anxious to continue to ramp up once the vaccination efforts and reopenings continue to get more traction. Moving on to Europe.

Coming off a strong first quarter in Europe, we were off slightly year-over-year in the second quarter. But the region turned in a solid performance, driven by both general distribution on core products as well as some nice project wins in heavy lifting and machining.

Various headwinds from continued COVID restrictions and some challenges related to Brexit did cause some minor delays in late quarter shipments, but we expect these to ease as the various countries sort through these new regulations.

Taking a look at our key markets in Europe, we do continue to see strong quoting and wins in wind and infrastructure projects, especially in bridge construction and repair.

Government spending in this sector is expected to remain robust, and we are well positioned to capture more of this work in the back half, primarily in our lifting and torque and tension products.

I'd normally not go into too much detail on this call about specific wins in the quarter, but I've included a picture here on the Dardanelles bridge project near Istanbul to give you a glimpse of the kind of project that gets us really excited.

Enerpac's supply of heavy cylinders, pumps and controls will enable the construction of what will be the longest suspension bridge in the world, connecting both sides of the Dardanelles Strait. The bridge will carry 3 lanes of highway traffic in each direction and is slated to open in late 2023.

While this project is not really material from the total company sales perspective, this project does show our strong capabilities with unique customer solutions to challenging problems and is really a good example of the type of work that an increase in infrastructure spending could bring in for us. Moving on to APAC.

This region has faced multiple stops and starts as it relates to market recovery due to the ongoing border lockdowns. China remains fairly stable. And Australia, along with New Zealand, are showing signs of improvement due to their quick response to infection flareups.

Conversely, Southeast Asia continues to struggle and be a challenge, particularly in Malaysia and Thailand with lockdowns that just recently started to lift. I previously mentioned strong iron ore pricing, and that's also driving some strength for us in mining in Australia.

Investments in wind and power gen are providing some tailwinds as well for us as -- and oil prices are driving some improving sales and quoting on both products and services in this region. Moving on to Slide 7 and turning to our MENAC region. Overall, we did see sequential improvement for the quarter.

We actually had a pretty strong quarter going until early February. When, as Randy mentioned, COVID spikes forced several border closings into some key areas of the Middle East. This did cause several projects to be suspended and pushed out some meaningful service and product revenue from our quarter.

Despite the efforts of our team to utilize resources, we also saw a drop-off of our quick turn work as well, which led to some unexpected underutilization. This has moved some projects to the right into the back half of the year and other projects completely out of the fiscal year.

That being said, improved oil price and the continuation of OPEC's January production cuts may offer us some opportunities to supply crews at relatively short notice. So we're staying close to our customers to take advantage of any emergent work as it comes up.

From a product perspective in this region, we've been working hard on diversifying our exposure beyond oil and gas and are really heartened by some success recently related to both product and service work in the power gen phase as well as improved quoting in construction, rail and aerospace.

As we've progressed through the early part of Q3 here, we have begun to see some meaningful year-over-year improvement in our product order rates. Switching from regions to new products.

We like to talk about new products, and Q2 was another strong quarter for new product development as we launched several products and maintained our NPVI metric at our 10% target for the sixth consecutive quarter.

Our Q2 launch event included not only several marketing programs and collateral to get our customers and dealers engaged, but we're also continuing to increase the number of languages and translations that we can leverage common materials in more parts of the world to drive preorders and get our partners trained up on our new offerings.

Just a couple of comments on our global operations. All of our sites continue to navigate the complexities of operating during a pandemic really well. Continuing to deliver on our commitments to safety, quality and on-time delivery, which were all positives for the quarter.

As volume returns to a normalized level, we remain focused on utilization, which improved as we progressed through the quarter. On our earnings call back in December, we talked about the fact that we did not roll out our typical September 1 price increases last year.

But given the steady increase in both commodities and our freight costs, we will be taking pricing here in Q3 in all of our regions. Speaking on our supply chain and inventory, as we enter the back half of the year, we're clearly expecting increased demand for our core products.

And just as we did at the start of the pandemic, our supply chain and operations teams are working extremely hard to ensure our inventories match our outlook. And we're staying ahead of lead times with our main suppliers to ensure we can continue to support our customers and win orders.

In this tightening supply chain environment, we are again threading the needle a bit to make sure we have the right products on the shelves, but also that we don't burden the balance sheet with any excess inventory where it's not needed. And now switching to the Cortland business.

We experienced another quarter of sequential improvement, with the combined business down 21% year-over-year versus the 35% down we saw last quarter. I touched a little bit on the weather issues in Texas, and that definitely impacted the industrial ropes portion of the Cortland business in the quarter.

We're encouraged, however, by the increased port activity we're seeing now as a signal that overall activity is returning to a normalized level, and we're seeing some nice opportunities in heavy lift for offshore renewables.

I'm pleased to report that the COVID-related production challenges we talked about in our last call have been resolved, and we look forward to growth in the back half of this fiscal year.

In terms of the medical side of the business, we did see an increase in activity starting in January as customers began to replenish their inventories, and our relocation activities into our new Cortland New York facility were completed.

We expect the sales uptick in February to continue as we move into the second half, and we're really excited about the future of the med business and our efforts to continue to diversify our customer base that were bolstered by some nice wins this past quarter that put us into some new applications, new customers and leveraging our expertise.

With that, I'll turn the call over to Rick for some financials..

service utilization, increased freight costs and under-absorption at our Cortland facilities on the lower sales volume that Jeff just discussed. We have worked to stabilize our tools manufacturing facilities with minimal COVID disruptions in the quarter. And as a result, we did not see the $3 million of under-absorption reflected in the first quarter.

Our service underutilization is about $500,000, and that's down from the $2 million we saw in our first quarter and consistent with our expectations on service coming into the quarter.

As Jeff discussed, as we manage our service recovery through the pandemic, we have been closely monitoring projects and timing of our labor mobilization, which has allowed us to rightsize our permanent and temporary labor resources for existing demand. Our second quarter air freight spend was about $1 million.

This is up from the $800,000 we incurred in the first quarter on both volume and rates. With our increase in demand, we had more air freight in the quarter. Air freight rates remain at 2x normal levels, and we expect this to continue through our fiscal year-end. We continue to see rising commodity costs, in particular, steel and aluminum.

And with rising demand, suppliers are now seeking price increases. We expect to see a 2% to 3% increase in steel machine parts or $200,000 to $600,000 increase in costs.

Although aluminum prices have increased approximately 60% since the beginning of our fiscal year, we have negotiated aluminum-driven cost increases in the 3% to 6% range with our suppliers, which will limit the impact on our spend in the back half of the year.

As Jeff noted, we are moving ahead with targeted pricing actions in all regions that will pass through these inflationary costs.

As we discussed last quarter, we are winding down our temporary COVID cost actions with savings of approximately $1 million in the quarter, and that's split evenly between international government stimulus funds and remaining international furloughs. SG&A favorability includes both reduced travel costs and outside consulting.

We expect travel costs to continue to fluctuate as sales and commercial activities expands or retracts by region. EBITDA margins also reflect that we reinstated our bonus plan and 408(k) match this quarter. The combined impact resulted in an increase of about $3 million in expense year-over-year.

While the bonus impact is oversized in terms of historical expense at this level of EBITDA, it is important for us to recognize the tremendous commitment of our employees during the crisis. Our previously announced restructuring actions resulted in approximately $3 million in the savings -- in savings for the second quarter.

Turning now to liquidity on Slide 11. We generated just over $1 million in free cash flow during the quarter, and this was the first time we generated free cash flow in our second quarter in over 5 years. A $4 million increase due to timing and receivables was offset by an increase in payables.

We were able to hold inventories flat, striking the balance between increasing demand and working capital management. As we look to the back half of the year, we will continue to monitor inventory levels, but do anticipate increased levels in the third quarter in conjunction with the increasing demand.

We ended the quarter with $115 million in cash on hand, and that's after paying down $45 million of our borrowings under the revolving credit agreement. Our leverage is at 2.1, and that's up from the 1.9 at the end of the first quarter. We are pleased with where we sit from a cash and liquidity perspective.

As we progress through the back half of the year, our leverage should improve significantly as we drop off our worst 2 COVID-impacted quarters from our trailing 12-month EBITDA. This should position us well as we look to continue our strategy execution and disciplined capital allocation. Randy, I'll turn it back over to you now..

products should be up in the mid-20% range; service is projected to be up in the low to high 40% range; and Cortland is projected to improve by 20% to low 30%. Additionally, incremental margins should be at the high end of our normal range of 35% to 45%, benefiting from cost actions and the high gross profit generated from tool sales.

Our assumptions remain consistent with our objectives to reduce interest expenses and maximize earnings. As with many companies, the road to recovery has been long, but our team has performed extraordinarily well under very difficult conditions.

We have proven the strength and vitality of the Enerpac Tool Group and to remain profitable even under the most difficult conditions. Enerpac remains an industrial leader in high-precision and quality tools with best-in-class operating results.

And as you can see from our final slide, the 4 basic strategic objectives remain consistent, and we are highly committed to their achievement. Operator, with that, that concludes today's prepared remarks. Let's open it up for questions..

[Operator Instructions]. Our first question comes from Mig Dobre with Baird..

Yes. It's Joe Grabowski on for Mig this morning. Thanks so much for the guidance. Very helpful and a lot of color around it, too. It's difficult looking at year-over-year right now because we're about to go against the toughest of the COVID shutdown. So I was looking at your guidance second half '21 versus first half '21.

And at the midpoint, it implies a 19% improvement second half versus first half. The chart on Slide 4 show that there is seasonality in the sales to improve in a normal year from second half to first half maybe 5% or 6%.

But when you think about your business as your end markets geography second half versus first half, what are kind of the key drivers for that 19% sequential second half improvement?.

Let me cover the broad side. And then, Jeff, why don't you jump in on some specifics.

But if you think about the percentage that I discussed of the back half growth rates of tool sales in the broad vertical markets we serve, are key to our profitability because that's where the high gross profit comes from, and then certainly, the full recovery of our service business, which includes the service rental.

So we're looking at all our major vertical markets. As Jeff mentioned, we're seeing great activity in civil construction, which includes bridge activity, bridge maintenance. We're seeing good activity in alternative energy markets. And we also see a very strong commodity market.

And if you go backwards in time and think about when were the last times we saw commodity prices at this level, not specifically the oil and gas markets, which are certainly trending very well in the right direction. But if you also think about the base metals and agricultural products, it's all pointing in the right direction.

So that's probably one of the macro drivers that I look at, are the fundamentals supporting those growth rates, and we feel they are. And so that's the drivers there.

And then, Jeff, do you want to jump in and give some more specific?.

Yes. Yes, kind of leapfrogging onto your commodity story. Normally, as we enter Q3, we're starting to see ramp up in construction, especially infrastructure-type work. So that's a normal sequential thing for us. But we're seeing increased activity after, frankly, kind of a quiet period we've been through during -- due to the pandemic.

But -- and a lot of our OEMs that service a variety of verticals are seeing increased activity, as I spoke to in my comments as well. So infrastructure, especially in ESSA. I highlighted the bridge project, but there's an awful lot of those in our quote log as well.

We're starting to see some improvement in that type of spending here in the U.S., although not nearly enough quite yet. We're looking forward to some of that. But yes, overall, just an uptick in kind of all the prime verticals that we serve..

Great. Okay. That's really helpful color. And I guess my follow-up question, I'll kind of stick with the same math. If I look at EBITDA second half versus first half, rough math, it implies about a 17% EBITDA margin in the second half versus an 11% EBITDA in the first half. So pretty healthy incremental sequentially.

Maybe just talk about some of the like cost headwinds and the cost tailwinds that are maybe helping or hurting second half to first half to drive that EBITDA margin improvement?.

Sure. I think the -- as we've been saying, I think the biggest tailwind will be improving product volume. And so that's going to be the biggest driver to that improvement first half to second half. You'll see about the -- you'll see incremental bonus expense at some level. And you'll see a little bit of incremental savings.

We hope to get the benefit of continued improved utilization, less underabsorption like you saw in Q2. So I think the biggest -- Q1 to Q2, I think, the biggest tailwind will be product volume. We do have a mix play that will be favorable as the product volume kicks up, and that's going to be our biggest driver of improvement..

Our next question comes from Jeff Hammond with KeyBanc Capital Markets..

So just on, I guess, another cut at price cost. I think you talked about airfreight and manufacturing variances in the first half.

How are you thinking about manufacturing variance in the second half? And then also, are you doing something to kind of shift away from this airfreight issue over time?.

Well, a couple of things. I think airfreight is a bigger factor now because of the rise in demand. And it's not just our business, it's kind of global and our -- managing our inventory levels. So as I said on the call, you saw more in Q2. As we carefully balance inventory levels, you'll see a little bit more airfreight than normal.

I think over time, you see -- as we've talked about, the goal is to minimize airfreight, and we've focused a lot on ourselves and us planning to do that.

This is an unusual period because we're kind of threading the needle here on how much inventory you met back in without just opening the flood gates until we see kind of a sustainable level of normal demand that Randy talked about, which we think we'll get to by the end of the quarter.

I think from a utilization and a cost perspective -- or absorption, we still believe back half will have neutral to favorable absorption. As we look at our operating facility, certainly favorable front half to back half.

And then the cost associated with that, as we talked about, where we took the targeted pricing such that any incremental commodity/rate, all of those inflationary costs would be covered by pricing. So that should be a net neutral from an EBITDA perspective..

Okay. And then just at a high level, I mean, I think you seem to have line of sight to kind of get back to demand levels kind of pre-COVID. And predating that, you were -- there were a lot of moving pieces with kind of restructuring, resizing the company for its simplification.

Just maybe as you step back and look at the -- your structural cost base, how are you feeling about -- as you get back to this more normal rate kind of starting to get back on track to these long-term margin targets?.

Sure. As we consistently talked about, structurally, we've taken the $33 million worth of cost out. We feel good about that. There will always be opportunities to continue to drive efficiency, and we continue to look at that. We really think, from a margin perspective, this is really about volume. And I define it in 2 steps.

First, getting back to kind of that normal flow, which would take us back to -- when we set the margin target, take us back to that $600 million in top line. And then -- and we view that as market recovery.

And then leveraging our growth on top of that, which is driven by NPD, which is driven by focus on value-added and service work and rental, we believe those 2 as kind of the final steps to getting to that 25%. If the recovery continues, the sooner we get to this $600 million mark, you've got margins in excess of 20%.

Based on the work we've done, it should be in that 21% to 22%, if not better. And then the further sequential improvement volume is what drives us to the 25%. So we're still committed to our objectives. We think we've done all of the things we need to do. And a little bit of broken record, we see it in the quarter.

We see it in the EBITDA margin improvements first half, back half. We believe getting back to that normal run rate gets us to the 20%-plus EBITDA margin and sets us up to drive the 25%..

Our next question comes from Brendan Popson with CJS Securities..

I just want to ask, with your commentary on the back half of the year, obviously, Q3 is typically strongest. But it sounds like you expect, given a recovery, sequential growth in the Q4. I just want to confirm that's the case. And then following up on that, you also had a comment that you expect to be at pre-COVID levels at the exit of the year.

So I guess, outside of any further hiccups, is that -- looking out beyond FY '21, is that a good way to think about your revenue potential as we exit the year?.

Yes, that's exactly what we were inferring, is that, first of all, the sequential improvement will accelerate. And we're very happy with the inbound orders that we've seen to date in March. And one of the interesting elements that we're watching is that if you recall last year, the big drop off didn't occur until the last week or so of March.

And so the fact that we were already 15% up versus prior year in March is really supporting our projections that it's going to accelerate, and we're going to have somewhat of an off-cycle or a typical year where the third quarter is our peak, followed by the fourth.

We believe that, that will be -- that cycle will not occur this year, that it'll be sequentially better each month and each quarter. And so if you think about the pressure wave that I gave you in the slides earlier on in our prepared remarks, that gives you the range of a normal operating year.

And what we do is we look at the best months that have been achieved and the worst months that we've achieved over a particular history of the company, and you can see we're back in that range and the slope of that line has been accelerating. So we look at the economic reports. We look at our inbound booked orders.

We're looking at how well our factories are performing and then we look at our major vertical markets that Jeff walked us through. And all of those factors bring us to the conclusion that the exit point of the year, we're back in business.

And as Rick said, now that we've worked on our balance sheet very, very hard, we positioned this company very well to start accelerating our strategies, which is around certainly other things beyond just the organic growth story..

Quickly here, when you look at the pressure wave on Slide 4 in terms of how you should be thinking about Q3 versus Q4, Q3, obviously, normally, has that peak. You can see it on the pressure wave. This will be sequential improvement.

If we look at that dotted line, it speaks clearly to order rates getting back to kind of normal by the time you get to the end of Q4. So by normal, we mean back into the pressure wave. And that's our expectation. So your question of the continued sequential improvement, as Randy described, you can also see it on this slide..

Our next question comes from Ann Duignan with JPMorgan..

I'd like to just go back to price cost, if we could.

Can you talk about the pricing that you said you've issued this quarter? Is that just on products going through distribution? Is it on all products? Is it on all products and services? And how much did you increase pricing by? I'm trying to get a sense of how much pricing will contribute to the guidance you gave for decrementals, incrementals..

So I view this as similar to what we did back when we were looking at tariffs. These were targeted pricing for targeted products that are specifically impacted by the costs we're seeing. So it wasn't across the board. As we talk with the tariffs, it's anywhere from, call it, 1% to as high as 4%.

But again, it's specific to the costs impacting those products. So when you think about read-through of pricing, on a net basis, what I said earlier was this will -- pricing will offset costs.

And we'll continue to look here in the back half to read -- what pricing looks like going forward to generate that normal read-through of roughly 1% that we would take on an annual basis. But these actions are cost-specific and net neutral for the back half of the year..

And I appreciate that. I guess my follow-up is along the same lines. On the cost side then, I'm assuming, though, that you had purchased a lot of your steel and a lot of your aluminum earlier before prices got to where they are today. So you may be price cost-neutral for the next quarter or 2 quarters based on your forecast.

But for how long will the current pricing cover you in terms of neutral into next year without further price increases?.

Well, what's a little bit different this year than maybe historically is while we do have some of the steel or machine parts, I should say, purchased, we're not sitting nearly anywhere near the inventory levels that we've historically had. So the numbers I gave are kind of back half-focused, with the price really being taken to offset those costs.

So at some point, should prices go down or when prices go down, there will be a benefit. But right now, we're really factoring in how we're going to manage this, the cost associated with bringing inventories back up both to meet demand. And then on a go-forward basis, we've been talking about sales and ops planning.

So our purchases will be much closer to demand than you've historically seen, and you should see the lower inventory levels accordingly..

Okay. That's helpful. I appreciate that. And then just a quick follow-up on cash flow. Would you expect cash flow to be negative in Q3? Just given comments on adding inventory, et cetera, just unseasonably, but the first half was unseasonable also..

Right. We didn't provide the guide on cash. And I think you hit it because we really have to monitor inventory and have to monitor demand and the timing of the demand through the Q3, Q4. As we talked about earlier, you definitely see an accelerating demand as we approach the end of Q4. so this is about working capital, which will be the biggest driver.

Obviously, you got to get lots of favorability from the EBITDA, but the working capital is going to be carefully managed. So it's hard to say what those -- that will look like on a quarter-by-quarter basis..

Our next question comes from Deane Dray with RBC..

Can we circle back on the impact of the extreme weather in Texas? You said that there were some missed business opportunities, interruptions.

Can you quantify that? How much was recouped in the quarter? How much do you think in the coming quarter that will contribute in terms of a catch-up? And are there any new construction opportunities that will come out of it? We're hearing lots of investment in hardening of the grid and the wind turbines.

Any new opportunities that are going to come out of that for you guys?.

Sure. I'll start with impact on the quarter. The -- from a quarter perspective, it -- I would say, roughly, call it, $1 million top line, somewhere in there. So -- and it's definitely a flip between Q2, Q3, Q4, likely Q3. So not a huge impact, but an impact nonetheless. The margin flow-through on those products on that work is pretty good.

So that's what we see in terms of impact timing. It is a flip between Q2, Q3. We did start to see that work come back online as we kind of navigated through the quarter. So that's how we think about the impact from the weather in Texas.

Jeff, do you want to talk about opportunities?.

Yes. Again, just mainly what was impacted was some labor, some jobs that we were scheduled to go out on. We didn't. Primarily, the biggest from a margin impact, it was the lack of rentals. We normally rent quite a bit of tooling out of our Deer Park facility, which obviously didn't go out. We had a little bit of logistics impact.

We couldn't get trucks in and out where we needed to, to ship some products. But I guess the impact on product was relatively minor. In terms of going forward, yes, I think a lot of it's going to come back, perhaps plus some in Q3 here. We're already seeing our rentals start to pick up, our request for a little longer-term rental on equipment pick up.

And to your question specifically, we are seeing some opportunities for some repair and some strengthening of the grid down there. So probably primarily a Q3 impact on the plus side..

All right. That's good to hear. And I apologize if you said this and I missed it. The uptick in orders for March at 15% is pretty impressive. And any way you would break that out in terms of geographies, business verticals? Just additional color there. I think since that is we're at this pivot point now, anything that we can gauge that would be helpful..

Let me just start off. It's very broad, and it's what we needed to see. A lot of good regional improvement.

And Jeff, do you want to jump in there?.

Yes. I mean, that's the highlight of that one. It's across a lot of verticals. It's across a lot of regions, and it includes orders from distribution. So the fact that we can't pinpoint one big contributor overall is a good news for me that it is a little more widespread positive uptick..

And that also includes geographies?.

Yes, absolutely..

Our next question comes from Michael McGinn with Wells Fargo..

I just want to start off by saying as a native Central New Yorker, it's not every day you hear about incremental manufacturing investment into Cortland, New York. So appreciate that. My first question relates to the long-term growth algorithm you guys have stated with leverage now in a reasonable place.

Historically, your focus on M&A has been addressing different geographies within tooling like the Larzep brand.

Going forward, do you still think there's room for regional geographic expansion? Or is this a different model where maybe you're looking to get closer to the factory floor with tooling and automation? Or anything that stands out for you guys right now?.

Let me just try to recap some of the things we've talked about in the past and then bring it back to your question about geographies. The main thing that we've focused on has been the vertical and then the associated tools that go with those vertical markets.

So things that have been highly interesting to us in our last acquisition, which is essentially just a year ago, that was based in the torque and tension markets, which we thought was a great fit to expand our tool platforms. And we've already seen the benefits of that acquisition of expanding our torque wrench product lines.

We still -- we now have a full 3-tiered product line. And I believe that, that has been a very good acquisition. So that's a good example of how we view it, both from a vertical market we intend to participate more in and then the types of tools that go into that vertical market.

And so things for us right now, obviously, torque tension, handle tensioning devices are still very interesting. Cutting and bending devices are also very interesting. And then the peripheral tools that are in general industrial markets like aerospace are also quite interesting.

And then to directly answer your question relative to the geography, as we've said in the past, we believe a brand in the Asia Pacific market, at some point, would be very valuable. And that's really the last major geographic move we need to make, would be an Asia Pacific-manufactured brand..

Great. Appreciate it. And then moving on to the margins. I know a lot has been discussed already, but if I back into the numbers, I'm coming up with something like the -- you're probably going to have to breach that 20% operating margin threshold within ITS by the fourth quarter. I just want to make sure I have that correct.

Is that on par with similar prior peaks? And maybe can you help us frame what the margin differential from your new product development efforts have been under the 80/20 simplification versus SKUs that you kind of have been rolling off the platform in terms of legacy products that are maybe lower margin that you've offered previously..

I think from a margin perspective relative to the Q3, Q4 progression, I think we're saying, when we end the Q4, we'll have an order rate that supports a 20 -- at least 20% margin run rate going forward. So that's how we're describing our progression through the back half of the year.

Jeff, do you want to talk about NPD and margins there?.

Yes. I mean, certainly, as we develop new products, our target is always to be at least at line average and hopefully, a little bit above if they're really new and innovative products. So I don't see any interruption in that as we continue to launch new products. So certainly, the intent is for all those to be incremental..

And with any NPD, they don't always start at target, but we've had success in getting them there fairly quickly..

Okay. And then if I could sneak one more in on a little more specific end market. Rail has come up a couple of times as an incremental opportunity.

I just want to see, is this something where you're in the railcar manufacturing facilities on the track? Are you working in conjunction with like a Nordco Wabtec application? Or can you just kind of frame what your rail business is and what it looks like and who you compete within that market?.

Yes. Sure. Most of our activity is really on the rail side and the maintenance side of that system. We've got several specifically designed products to help maintain and install new rail and things like that.

The competitors in that space, kind of our normal hydraulic competitors, we have several partners that are primary suppliers to the big rail operators. So it is through distribution, but it's relatively targeted specific distributors that sell to those end users.

So that's a space that we are bringing out some new products and some updates to our current product line. But given the age of that infrastructure, we do think there's opportunity there. And already this year, we've seen a fairly nice uptick in orders into that space..

[Operator Instructions]. Our next question comes from Justin Bergner with G Research..

Just to start, I wanted to sort of step back and look at that 20% EBITDA margin guidance.

If you end the current fiscal year with something on the order of $525 million of revenue and $70 million to $75 million of adjusted EBITDA, what are the benefits beyond the normal incrementals that allow you to get to that 20% margin at $600 million of revenue, which basically would translate to an incremental $45 million to $50 million of EBITDA on an incremental $70 million of revenue? I'm just having sort of some difficulty thinking of the drivers beyond the sort of normal incremental range that allows you to get there?.

Sure. When we say getting to that normal and that $575 million to, call it, $600 million in revenue, we look at that if you go -- coming out of '19, we were guiding, call it, somewhere between -- I think midpoint was right around $595 million of that original guide.

We've now taken all of the cost, $33 million of the cost -- of cost out that exiting at that $600 million level, which combined with the leverage on the cost out, that gets you to that 35% to 45% incremental, definitely high end. And it also results in the EBITDA margin at a normal run rate. At 600-plus revenues, that EBITDA margin to be above 20%.

And so in terms of what happens, it's really product. Product growth and product volume, that's what's really missing right now. And when I say product, it also includes -- Jeff talked about this earlier, improved rental service activity as part of our value-add really.

And then you get the approved -- sorry, improved manufacturing utilization from the volume. And we do have continued facility rationalization benefits that are yet to come as well. So all those combined, consistent with our original margin lock, we think you hit that roughly $600 million mark.

You've done -- we've done all the self-help things up to that point to get us to 20%, plus $600 million above 20%. And that above 20% to 25% is really driven off of market NPD, value-added work and continuing to drive efficiencies within our manufacturing facilities..

Okay. My second question relates to the infrastructure demand in Europe. I think this is something that you emphasized new today or at least emphasized a lot more today. So what are the drivers there? Obviously, Europe's a lot of different countries and subregions.

Does this have legs? How much of your European revenue base is tied up with infrastructure-related demand at present? Just any sort of background you can provide would be helpful..

Yes. There's been a book of quotes that we have had for numerous projects. I emphasize the bridge project, especially. We've got numerous bridge projects, numerous -- just kind of transportation-related quotes that we've had open quotes on for months and it's been really encouraging that we are seeing many of those start to come to award stage.

So I think as I talk to my team in Europe, they're pretty bullish on the fact that the spending that has been planned for -- since pre-COVID is starting to get released. So I hesitate to give you a percentage of our revenue over there that's tied up in that.

But between those projects and the sales going through our general distribution, it's a meaningful amount of our business. So I think there's some pent-up demand there, but there's also been some new projects as well that we're starting to get some information on. So good news, frankly, all around..

That's all the questions today. I'll now turn it back to management for closing remarks..

Okay. Thank you very much, everybody, for joining us today, and we'll look forward to follow-ups..

Thank you. This concludes today's conference. All parties can now disconnect. Have a great day..