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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q2
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Executives

Karen Bauer - Communications and IR Leader Randy Baker - CEO Rick Dillon - CFO.

Analysts

Ann Duignan - JP Morgan Jeff Hammond - KeyBanc Capital Markets Mig Dobre - Baird Scott Graham - BMO Josh Pokrzywinski - Wolfe Research Patrick Wu - SunTrust Robinson Humphrey Seth Weber - RBC Capital Markets Justin Bergner - Gabelli & Company Stanley Elliott - Stifel.

Operator

Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by. And welcome to the Actuant Corporation’s Second Quarter Earnings Conference Call. During the presentation, all participants will be a listen-only mode. Afterwards, we will conduct a question-and-answer session.

[Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded, Wednesday, March 21, 2018. It is now my pleasure to turn the conference over to Karen Bauer, Communications and Investor Relations Leader. Please go ahead, Ms. Bauer..

Karen Bauer

Thank you. Good morning. And welcome to Actuant’s second quarter earnings conference call. On the call with me today are Randy Baker, Actuant’s CEO; and Rick Dillon, CFO. Our earnings release and the slide presentation for today’s call are available in the Investors section of our website.

During today’s call, we will reference non-GAAP metrics such as adjusted profit margins or adjusted earnings per share. You can find a reconciliation of GAAP to non-GAAP metrics within the schedules attached to this morning’s press release.

I also want to remind everyone that any forward-looking statements made during this call are subject to risks and uncertainties, the most important of which are described in our press release and SEC filings. Finally, consistent with prior quarters, we’ll utilize the one question, one follow-up rule in order to keep today’s call to an hour.

Thank you in advance for following this practice. And with that, I’ll turn the call over to Randy..

Randy Baker

Thanks, Karen. Good morning, everybody, and thanks for joining our second quarter’s earnings call. Before we start the second quarter results, I’d like to address today’s press release appointing three new Directors. Over the past month, we had very constructive dialogue with Southeast Asset Management.

As a result, we’ve entered into an agreement with Southeastern, which was filed as an 8-K, resulting in the appointment of Palmer Clarkson and Sidney Simmons to the Board as independent Directors. I’m really pleased that Palmer and Sidney are joining the Board and I have no doubt that they’d be very helpful in driving our strategy.

Secondly, as part of our succession plans, Alfredo Altavilla will be joining the Board as an independent Director. Alfredo also has a great deal of industry experience and will provide valuable insights into our Company.

In summary, I’m very pleased to welcome these Board members to Actuant and I’m looking forward to working with the entire Board on the strategy of focusing on our most profitable businesses and improving the long-term shareholder value. Now, let’s go to the second quarter. Starting over on slide three.

I’m pleased to report that we delivered results within our guidance range for the second quarter. To summarize, sales of $275 million was at the high end of the range, and I was particularly pleased with the core sales growth in Enerpac tools and Engineered Solutions.

Adjusted diluted EPS was $0.13 a share in the middle of the range with margins that quite frankly fell short of expectations. Year-to-date, we have grown the business by more than $40 million, but we have not improved the profitability on acceptable rate.

Our cash flow was as expected with a bit of inventory and other working capital build to support topline growth. The margin pressures are coming from multiple fronts. In terms of contribution, heavy lifting project cost overruns and warranty issues were the biggest drivers.

These factors along with negative sales mix, growth in investments, inflation resulted in disappointing incremental margins. The question has become what are we going to do differently going forward? First, we need to rapidly finalize the remaining heavy lifting projects and the Energy segment restructuring.

Secondly, we need to be more aggressive on the pricing front. We have accelerated our industrial tool pricing and we are pursuing aggressive OEM price adjustments. We are driving cost efficiency and slowing our investments. We have clearly seen market share growth as a result of our investments.

However, we need to absorb what we have in place and leverage the existing structure. Finally, we are increasing our focus on portfolio management, outlined on our Investor Day taking into account the relative strategic fit, in turn concentrating on our resources on the most profitable businesses.

In summary, we are committed to driving the actions to achieve the targeted incremental profits in the robust sales environment. We’re working to balance the priorities to meet strong demand, investing in the future and managing costs. To that end, I’m confident that we can deliver on our priorities.

I’ll turn the call over to Rick Dillon to go through the details on the quarter and then I’ll come with some updates including guidance.

Rick?.

Rick Dillon

Thanks, Randy, and good morning, everyone. First, let’s walk through the onetime items impacting this quarter that were excluded from our adjusted results, as shown on slide four. Starting with taxes. We recorded a net charge of $8 million as our initial estimate of the impact of tax reform.

The estimated $16 million impact on the repatriation of foreign earnings was partially offset by the revaluation of certain tax assets and liabilities to reflect the impact of reform and the reduced U.S. tax rate.

We also recorded approximately $1 million of tax expense as a result of new accounting rules that require the corporate tax triggered on the exercise of employee options to be reflected as the component of tax expense. During the second quarter, we had a significant exercise of stock options by our former executive.

Restructuring in the quarter totaled $4.3 million; you can see $3.5 million of this called out on the face of the income statement and the SAE section with the remainder included within cost of goods sold.

With the closing of the Viking transaction on December 1st, we recorded the final divestiture and impairment charges, which amounted to $12 million in the quarter. On to our adjusted second quarter, turning to slide five, let’s start with the high level recap.

Fiscal 2018 second quarter sales increased 6%, core sales increased 3% net of a 5% currency benefit and the 2% sales reduction resulted from the net impact of the Viking divestiture and Mirage acquisition. Adjusted operating profit improved modestly with margins up 20 basis points.

Our effective income tax rate was approximately 14%, in line with our expectations. The adjusted EPS for the second quarter was $0.13 compared to $0.11 last year. Turning to slide six. Our core sales were at the top of our guidance range of 1% to 3%.

Total Industrial segment sales were generally in line with expectations as strong tool sales more than offset mid teen declines in both heavy lifting and country tension. Engineered Solutions exceeded expectations with strong demand across substantially all product lines, despite weakening China truck volumes and more difficult comparisons.

While still negative, Energy core sales were a little bit better than our latest outlook on strong Cortland rope and cable demand. On slide seven, you can see the modest increase year-over-year margins. Randy walked through the incremental margin pressures at a high level and I will provide a more details as I discuss the segment results.

First, let me address briefly the steel and aluminum tariffs. While we are still digesting the new rules and in active discussions regarding the exemption of certain specialty steel categories not available in the U.S., our current estimate of the impact on cost is approximately $5 million on an annualized basis.

This is our estimate of the impact of both the tariffs and the expected U.S. supplier increases -- price increases on higher demand. This would largely hit our concrete tensioning and agriculture businesses and industrial tools to a much lesser extent. Like others, we expect to implement pricing surcharges to customers to cover any increased costs.

Now, let’s get into segment details starting with the Industrial segment on slide. Core sales for Industrial increased by 4%, over the prior year; industrial tool sales remained robust despite tough accounts, up low double digits, which accelerated a few points from the first quarter growth rate.

Global Industrial activity levels remained strong and we continue to see this across the vast array of any markets we touch. The strong microenvironment combined with our commercial effectiveness actions and new product launches have all contributed to the sales performance.

On the other end of the spectrum, we experienced mid teen declines in sales for both the heavy lifting business as well as the concrete tensioning product category, the former due to lumpy -- due to the lumpy nature of that business and a latter resulting from core delivery.

From a profitability standpoint, Industrial’s margins were down 210 basis points year-over-year. Obviously, this was disappointing, and we will try to provide further granularity here.

Our standard Industrial tools portion of the business had incremental margins in the 20% range, this was lower than expected and largely associated with an incremental $2 million investment in commercial effectiveness, including sales and engineering along with modest inflation.

As Randy noted, we are decelerating the investment in the back half of the year and accelerating price increases to right size the cost structure. Within heavy lifting, the customs solutions portion of our business continued to incur significant costs overruns, largely associated with two international projects.

This resulted in losses for HLT of approximately $2 million in the quarter and a swing of a similar amount on a year-over-year basis. As we discussed last quarter, these customized fit for purpose projects were wind down as part of the HLT offering on a go forward basis.

We expect to continue to experience margin pressures from these projects for the balance of the year but at a less severe rate. We are in the process of executing restructuring actions in our European operations to reflect reduced custom activity going forward.

However, these won’t be completed until the fourth quarter as we work through certain regulatory requirements and must be manage closely as we wind down our contractual obligations. The operating efficiencies continued for our concrete tensioning business but are sequentially improving.

Unfortunately, our production issues and inability to meet service levels have resulted in loss share. In total, this accounted for about $1 million in year-over-year profit degradation. While the facilities have been consolidated and machines are up and running, the market share loss is expected to continue to impact the second half of the year.

Now, let’s turn to the Energy segment on slide nine. Overall, core sales declined 8%, but sequentially improved from the minus 12% last quarter. Hydratight’s core sales rate of change was a bit less worse, down low double digits versus mid teens last quarter.

Customers across our various served markets and regions continued their trend of maintenance deferrals, push-outs and scope reductions despite stable to improving oil prices. As we noted last quarter, the Middle East continues to have the most stability in terms of maintenance activity levels and Asia Pacific remains the most challenged.

Cortland delivered mid single digit core sales growth in the quarter on improved -- on improvements in both the oil and gas as well as medical markets. Encouragingly, quoting activity in offshore energy is picking, notably in the seismic area which is obviously extremely front-end.

Adjusted operating profit margins improved 200 basis points, largely due to the elimination of Viking losses which was partially offset by the lower Hydratight volume levels. We continue our restructuring efforts within the Energy segment with actions impacting both Hydratight and Cortland.

We are closing ancillary operating locations, streamlining regional structures and refocusing resources on the most profitable product lines. While these actions are difficult and take time, they are beginning to provide savings. Turning to Engineered Solutions on slide 10.

We saw strong performance again from a top-line standpoint, delivering 10% core sales growth, despite more difficult year-over-year comparisons. Our customers are experiencing solid end-market demand and are reestablishing inventory in the channels, which is being reflected in our robust production rates.

The sales growth continues to be broad-based across off-highway markets including agriculture, construction, forestry and mining, among others. Europe truck production levels remain solid but as expected, China truck build declined year-over-year with our sales down approximately 25%.

Profit margins in Engineered Solutions declined 130 basis points year-over-year as the higher volumes were offset by warranty costs, higher material and wage costs, an unfavorable sales mix with the lower China volumes along with preproduction engineering support for new product launches in that order.

The warranty issues are behind us and we have initiated pricing discussions with many of our customers. While these will likely layer in over time, we expect to cover the majority of the inflationary costs. Lastly, turning to liquidity on slide 11, cash flow was generally as expected in a seasonally weak second quarter.

Although, we did build inventory levels in the first half of the year to support the expected top-line growth, but we are targeting a meaningful reduction as we move to the back half. Our net debt to pro forma EBITDA leverage remains around 3 times and should decline with the normal second half cash flow generation.

With that, I will turn the call back over to Randy..

Randy Baker

Thanks, Rick. Let’s turn over to slide 12. I want to spend a few minutes on the engineering investments and new product launches. Our investments in new product development have affected the margins but we believe this is one of the most important capital allocation priorities.

We are committed to reinvigorating our organic growth and the long-term health and sustainability of the businesses. During the quarter, we launched multiple new products and Enerpac tools expanding our catalog and giving our dealers more to sell.

Enerpac product launches this year will far exceed the total introductions released over the past several years, which is a key to our sustained growth. Engineered Solutions also benefited from new product releases in multiple industries including agriculture, aerospace and industrial applications.

We are striving to accelerate the velocity of these launches but overall I am pleased with the steady progress. Moving over to slide 13. The macroeconomic factors impacting the end markets continue to remain positive. Oil and gas prices remain generally stable since our last update with oil averaging around $60 a barrel.

While we’d obviously like to see a higher price, we are beginning to see CapEx spend quote activity and believe the resumption of normalized OpEx spend will follow. Off-highway mobile equipment continues to strengthen.

The agriculture sector dynamics remain strong and all major manufacturers in construction equipment market are recording improved customer demand and rental fleet utilization. The general industrial market continues to remain active globally and distributors are reporting good retail activity and pricing dynamics.

And finally, the European on-highway truck market has remained strong with the latest registrations reflecting a 9% increase in heavy truck sales while China truck sales have decline between 25% and 30%. The industry should level out at a run rate which is higher than historical averages. Turning over to slide 14.

We anticipate the overall core sales to increase to 2% to 4% on a full-year basis, as compared with prior guidance from 1% to 3%. However, consistent with what we have experienced in the first half of the fiscal year, we are tampering the industrial core sales growth guidance to reflect lower heavy lift and concrete tensioning sales.

And we are modestly increasing the core growth expectations for Engineered Solutions. Moving on to slide 15. As we take stock and the performance at the halfway point, we have no reason to believe that the sales trends we’ve experienced will change meaningfully. In addition, we have a moderate tailwind with regard to currency translation.

As such, we are updating our total sales guidance to now be in the range of $1.140 billion to $1.160 billion. In terms of EPS guidance, we have a number of factors that you must take into account.

Project cost issues, inflation, growth investments, we have experienced in the first half will lessen their severity but will continue to impact our margin on an ongoing basis. To that end, we are adjusting our full-year diluted EPS range to a $1 to $1.10 per share.

Many of you have questioned to the ramp of earnings in the back half of fiscal year and even with the reductions in profits reflected in the updated guidance, there is definitely a sequential uptick. So, let’s walk through the factors.

First, we have a leverage of higher volume in several of our higher margin businesses, most notably Enerpac, which is stronger in the second half. Second, we have the benefit of service excellence and energy restructuring savings, which were weighted to the back half.

This accounts for approximately $4 million to $5 million of run rate savings versus the first half. Third, the project overruns and warranty issues will moderate as we go through the year, swing of approximately $3 million less in headwinds in the second half.

And fourth, the price increases we have already triggered should provide relief to material cost inflation. Turning over to the third quarter, we expect sales in the $300 million to $310 million range with EPS in the $0.33 to $0.38 per share range. Core sales growth is expected to be in the range of 1% to 3% similar to past quarter.

Sequentially, core sales rate of change will be lower in Q2 for industrial, which is entirely related to the heavy lifting business. Energy should see moderating core sales decline as we anniversary the downturn in maintenance.

And finally, as we noted in the press release, we are lowering the full-year cash flow guidance to approximately $70 million to $75 million with a 100% conversion rate. In closing, I am satisfied with the sales traction and the growth we are seeing.

We worked very hard to achieve this and we are not willing to sacrifice sales coverage and reduce investments in new products and a means to offset short-term margin pressures.

However, we have implemented off-cycle price increases driving cost control and actively managing the portfolio to mitigate margin pressures without compromising our strategic plan. I’d also like to take the opportunity to welcome Jeff Schmaling, our new President of our Consolidated Industrial and Energy Segment.

Jeff and I’ve known each other for more than 25 years. And I have no doubt Jeff is going to bring a tremendous amount of value in driving our retail distribution, our service operations and creating one of the best tool companies in the world. So, welcome aboard, Jeff. And with that, I will turn it over to questions. Operator, back to you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes from the line of Ann Duignan from JP Morgan. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Ann Duignan

Could you talk in a little bit more detail about -- I think, you said concrete, agriculture, and tools were the three business units that will be the most impacted by steel and aluminum prices.

Could you talk a little bit more about who the customer is in those businesses? Is it that easy just to turn around and say I’m raising my prices? And then, can you also a little bit about who specifically is the biggest competitor to those businesses, and are they U.S.

or international? I’m just trying to get a sense of do you run the risk of increasing prices and then your competitor doesn’t and they gain market share. So, if you could just address those questions for those three businesses, I’d appreciate it..

Rick Dillon

Sure. Try to give you a little more color there. First, just stepping back, when you look at the tariffs and how they impact our business in general. Keep in mind, first of all, the majority of our revenue comes from foreign operations and we typically manufacture where we sell or assemble where we sell. So, as I indicated, we’ve got U.S.

entities that -- or businesses that will have pressure from the tariffs. We mentioned the concrete tensioning business; that is raw material being sourced, and so -- and it’s being sourced overseas. And so that will be subject to tariffs.

However, we are, as I mentioned actively pursuing exemptions for some of the categories of steel and particularly specialty steel, in this case for tensioning, that would be applicable. So, our estimate of the impact doesn’t assume we get any of those exemptions on it. So, kind of a full impact is in that worse case $5 million estimate that we gave.

When you look at -- now, obviously that we have competitors to the -- within the tensioning business but without getting into -- can’t speak for what they are doing and what that impact might be, but for all of these, there may be competitive pressures that certainly if there is an overseas competitor, it’s not subject to the tariff.

When you look at the rest of our business, we really aren’t our sourcing direct, while steel for those businesses, what we estimate here is the impact of steel purchases that we make for value-added product that may be -- where the raw steel may be purchased from someone outside of the U.S. So, that’s more flow-through estimated cost increases.

Now, there obviously we’re estimating just based on our sourcing and based on volume, and what we know about their purchases and sources and that would account for the balance of that estimated $5 million.

Obviously from an -- getting to agriculture that’s going to be more OE and as we mentioned about prices, those will be layered in on time to off -- over time to offset those. And clearly, we have competitors in the ag space as well. Industrial to a much less -- lesser extent, just keeping in mind, most of those are sourced or component type purchases.

And when you look at the balance of our activity, it will impact that business far less than the other. In fact, it’s an insignificant impact of our $5 million in terms of its inclusion. So, that’s what I can tell you about tariff. Hopefully that gives you enough color..

Ann Duignan

Not quite. You didn’t answer my question on who specifically is your key competitor for each of those businesses..

Rick Dillon

Well, we won’t get into that detail. We typically don’t comment specifically about customers in each business..

Ann Duignan

Not customer, competitor..

Rick Dillon

Competitor. I mean, when you look at some of those businesses, there’s many and they are small and they are niche players..

Ann Duignan

And are they primarily U.S.-based or are they international?.

Rick Dillon

Spread out across the board..

Ann Duignan

Okay.

And the $5 million, is that after tax or before tax?.

Rick Dillon

That’s before tax as worse case..

Ann Duignan

And I just want to clarify. I’m sorry that I’m pushing on that. But I just want to talk that that $5 million includes what you anticipate might be price increases but you received from component suppliers who have steel in their components, is that correct or does it….

Rick Dillon

It does include that as well. And again, I just want to stress that’s our initial estimate. There are a lot of actions that we’re taking. We fully believe we’ll be able to minimize that 5, but that’s a worse case, no actions on our part what see as the potential..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Jeff Hammond from KeyBanc Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Jeff Hammond

So, Randy, just on these kind of overruns and execution issues, it just seems like a lot of these things are lingering.

And I just want to get a sense from you for -- I mean, I guess, your patience around kind of getting these done and the risk that some of this falls into fiscal 2019?.

Randy Baker

Well, as far as my patience factor, went up about three quarters ago on that topic. Relative to the impact on our first half of the year, absent those issues, particularly of accepting some contracts that we shouldn’t of and then overrunning the cost of those particular contracts had a significant impact to the industrial business.

And so, what we do about it? First of all, we changed out the entire management team. Secondly, we’ve implemented restructuring project in our Dutch operations, which you can imagine is difficult given the localized law in Holland to make those changes in that business.

So, the outcome is going to be a business that’s -- focused on our standard product ranges and gantry heavy lifting applications, strand jack applications and things that we know that are good margin, very unique products in the industry that we can make money at.

We are basically through creating any specialized projects that have the potential to damage the business going forward..

Jeff Hammond

Okay. And then, on Hydratight, can you just talk about any signs of that business inflecting? I mean, we’re hearing a little bit better commentary about turnaround activity.

Just as you think about some of the structural dynamics in that business, do you feel like the rate of I guess turnaround activity and actions that people are taking are impaired longer term at all? Thanks..

Randy Baker

Yes. So, if you look around the world where we see positive results is in our Middle East and Asia Pacific operations, both businesses are doing much better. The Middle East operations are getting better bookings and they are also getting -- their profitability is getting is up to a more reasonable level. They are making a forecast.

And Asia Pacific, we’ve landed one very nice project that’s helping us. And so that will come in over the next couple of quarters and into ‘19. But, it’s a nice beachhead in Malaysia that we didn’t have before. Where we still cost issues and low profitability is particularly in the U.S. operations.

And Jeff and the team have already implemented some restructuring actions. We are taking major costs out of the U.S. We are focusing that business into areas we haven’t had a lot of focus, which is selling tools. We have eight nice distribution centers that we want to increase our tool sales from those locations.

We want to improve our rental operations in those locations. And we want to do high-quality service, which typically is more complex than what we’ve done in the past. And so, we have a good pathway to get the U.S. operations profitable. North Sea is seeing some activity.

I think that’s improving sequentially, but still a long way before it’s going to be back on its feet totally. But generally speaking, I think we’ve got a glide path now on Hydratight. It is going to sequentially improve..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question comes from the line of Mig Dobre from Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Mig Dobre

Yes. Good morning. I want to go back to the guidance. If I look at the midpoints, essentially it looks to me like the fourth quarter earnings are guided to be a little bit higher than the third quarter. This is obviously unusual versus what we normally see.

So, I guess, I am trying to understand, in terms of the swings that you mentioned earlier, how are you thinking about the cost swings third versus the fourth quarter? Is fourth quarter more reliant on pricing acceleration or is it more savings driven? And maybe, you can also help us think through these dynamics at segment level because it’s -- at least for me, it’s getting kind of hard to see how this flows through..

Randy Baker

I will start off and Rick can chime in on the rest of it. So, if you look sequentially on our quarters and we took restructuring actions particularly, a lot of those costs hit us quarter one and quarter two. We started feeling some of the positive effects of those actions in the very end of our second quarter.

As we get into the third and fourth, by the fourth quarter, we should have full effect of our restructuring and cost out of the business. Secondly, the pricing is in the similar arrangement where we will see the pricing benefits flowing through.

And then, third, which I think is something that I don’t want to downplay is that the elimination of bad projects that have cost us a lot of money. So, if you go back to what I just said in our commentary, that’s a $3 million headwind that’s going away on our third and fourth quarter, which is going to positively affect us.

So, if you line up everything we have, it’s cost-outs, pricing actions, elimination of cost issues that should not reoccur and then improving our manufacturing operations, then there is a pathway to get there. But clearly, as I said in my commentary, there is a sequential uptick in the third quarter and fourth quarter..

Rick Dillon

So, just a little more details on the restructuring. When you think about the Energy or Hydratight restructuring, keep in mind we began that in the fourth quarter of last year. And the actions we are talking about now are really that Phase 2 we described last year.

And no savings, while we’ve seen savings that Randy talked about really from those fourth quarter actions, those savings are the ones that will start to kick in, in the back half, but particularly in Q4, so that Phase 2 of restructuring.

And then also the heavy lift and the PHI or concrete tensioning restructuring that we talk about, those will all be full-bore, come Q4. So, there is definitely a lift in Q4 profitability and top line even from an energy perspective when you compare to last year’s fourth quarter energy which is the low point..

Mig Dobre

Okay, right. But, if I look at ES for instance, your guidance on the top line implies that the business will contract in the back half, maybe a little more in the fourth quarter, just given the nature of the comp.

Can you deliver a flat to up margin in this segment and is that required to get to your guidance?.

Rick Dillon

Well, that the top line we are saying it will be up but low single-digits and that’s really on the comps in the back half. With that and the warranty issues behind us and pricing kicking in, yes, we do think we can deliver the margins and the guidance..

Operator

Our next question comes from the line of Scott Graham from BMO. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Scott Graham

Good morning. And not to sort of blow up the level here. But, I was just maybe hoping you can give us a little bit more granularity on some of the things that you are expecting to be better in the second half but specifically around warranty, around mix, as well as these operating efficiencies that just seem to top up from time to time.

Maybe just a little bit more on those three items, and essentially have you circled, ring-fenced it and kind of what are you doing to make sure that those are non-factors in the second half or close enough to that?.

Rick Dillon

Starting with mix, I guess when you look at ES, and it’s part of that back half margin expectation for ES. That mix will likely stay as you’ve got a 25% reduction in China volume. So, there is definitely a mix impact there that’s in our guidance for the back half.

I think the warranty issue we discussed that was related to specific situation with one of our customers in the front half. And that issue is completely behind us, impacting -- largely impacted Q2. And so, that’s a one time -- a true one time warranty hit that is not in the back half forecast.

I think those two combined from an ES perspective as well as the pricing are the big things that plagued us -- the mix and warranties that plagued us in Q2 or even in front half. The mix stays, the warranty goes away. Operating efficiencies that we really talked about that in terms of the heavy lift decision for concrete tensioning.

Those inefficiencies will abate, but kind of be that less worse concept as we talked about. The share loss in tensioning will continue as we said, will continue to impact us to a lesser extent. And then, the heavy lift, we’ve got continued pressure in the back.

With the volume that we’re seeing, we do see and we did earlier on have inefficiencies associated with the ramp up to deliver those high volumes that include freight over time, things like that. We expect those to be better in the back half, but to continue to see those issues. So, you take all those factors in place, plus a benefit of pricing.

And I’ve kind of gone through them here all over but that’s -- those are the impacts of the one timers that we saw in Q2 and front half that we -- and our expectations for the back half..

Scott Graham

Great. That’s really helpful. Thank you. So, my follow-up question is, kind of more with you Randy, I know that one of your big thrust early on was to go visit the facilities and what have you.

And you kept telling us that the number of facilities that you consider world class or in that territory on their way to their -- continue to increase through like last quarter. Can you kind of tell us where you are if you have to rate them? It seems like we didn’t get a lot of progress this quarter and please tell me if I’m wrong on that.

The idea here obviously is not only to improve the margins, but also to kind of -- came down all four corners of the canvas, so that things don’t keep springing up.

So, could you give us an update to that end?.

Randy Baker

Yes. So, of the 24 plants that I’ve talked about at Investor Day and a lot of our meetings and prior calls, when we started out, we really only had three that would score in a category that you could classify it as a B student on a lean manufacturing scale. Today, we have about eight or nine that are now classifying into an A, B category.

So, we’ve made progress there. The next phase of getting plans cleaned up, we have probably three to four that we’d still classify as either a D or F category plant.

One of them in particular we’ve got a team of people on it or right now, because they’re seeing significant increases in volume that if we can get it cleaned up quickly, it’s going to have a nice margin impact for us because it did have a significant margin drag for our ES business in the first half of the year.

That inefficiency is going to start going away. Most of that was related to not necessarily the layout of the factory and the throughput of products because we’ve completely changed the flow of the product. But we haven’t gotten our teams fully implemented yet.

It’s how you schedule client material so that you can build product quickly and you can get it out the backdoor and invoice it. So, we find that we are getting a higher degree of back orders. And quite honestly we’ve set very high targets in reference to our turn ratios.

And I think in some cases we have taken our inventory down faster than we’re capable of handling because of the way that plant was set up. That’s about $100 million plant. We got to get it cleaned up. It’s going to happen before we exit our third and fourth quarter.

And the remaining ones, there are several projects around the world to really improve efficiency. But largely on a lean manufacturing process, we’ve made a lot of progress in the last year and a half. The next phase is to really get our supply chain operations functioning at a level we weren’t unhappy.

And that means we are training people because there were very few that had ever been trained in true supply chain operations. And so that’s happening now as well. So, we are still working it. That’s all I can say. And we know that there is a lot of margin being left on the shop floor still..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Josh Pokrzywinski from Wolfe Research. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Josh Pokrzywinski

Just on the industrial margin cadence in the second half. Can you help us, Randy or Rick, on how 3Q versus 4Q should weigh out? I know, it’s a bit more color than you normally give. But, just given kind of the pace of overall EPS 3Q to 4Q, it seems like industrial margins need to be a big component of that snap back.

Could you just kind of size us on how we bridge from this kind of 18-ish number today to something a little bit healthier in the second half?.

Rick Dillon

I think broadly here, we’re saying Q3, Q4 up and then maybe up on less HLT noise, tools kind of continuing little bit of increase there and then maybe again a small step in the Q4. I think it’s more of elimination of the HLT noise and some tools growth in the back half..

Josh Pokrzywinski

Okay. So, really, the overall earnings step up into fourth quarter needs to become I guess disproportionately from margins elsewhere in the business if we’re not going to see another big step up in the fourth quarter in industrial? The overall EPS is just a little higher seasonally than I would have thought in the fourth quarter.

And I guess that may be taxes some of that but it does seem like it’s a little off sided in the industrial, it’s not incrementally contributing, it seems like….

Rick Dillon

Sure. Industrial is up. So, it is contributing. We also have the energy piece, which will -- certainly will to last year and sequentially will improve. And so, that’s higher margin impact as well. So, I think, those combined will all drive that Q3, Q4. I think it’s important, industrial is up. So, it will contribute.

And let’s not lose fact sight of Energy is up versus unfortunately horrific Q4 last year..

Operator

And our next question comes from the line of Charley Brady from SunTrust Robinson Humphrey. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Patrick Wu

Good morning, everyone. This is actually Patrick Wu standing in for Charley. Thanks for taking my questions. If I -- Randy, if I heard you correctly earlier, you’ve mentioned that the pricing increases for Industrial tools have already gone into play.

Can you just talk about sort of how the market is receiving that at the moment? And then, in terms of offsetting the inflation, you guys called out the $5 million. Price is going to offset most of that I think you mentioned.

What about the other callouts that you guys have mentioned the freight costs and the wage inflation and things like that? Can we add a little bit more color on those items as well?.

Randy Baker

Yes. So, I’ll cover the price action. So, we’ve accelerated price actions throughout the -- particularly Enerpac and other businesses within Industrial. In those types of businesses that is distribution related, you can’t bring them forward. Now, there were scheduled prices that would normally hit in June. So, we’ve just accelerated them.

Our dealers understand that we have significant material cost increases, so they are not seeing tremendous pushback yet from either dealer or retail activity. We’re watching the retail activity closely because we don’t want to let pricing impact our overall share progression. But, it’s something you have to balance.

The pricing elasticity in the market right now appears to be pretty good. And so, the price realization that we’ve baked into our full-year guidance is taking that into account and it will help us on not only margins in the back half but also certainly top line volume is there as well.

So, for the industrial business, that’s where the primary price actions are taken. Now, contractually, in the ES business, you have contractual agreements with OEMs that have trigger points, based on producer price indexes and other indices. And how those layer in, we have to go contract-by-contract and then negotiate those price increases.

And I think most of our suppliers understand that as well. So, we’re pushing back where we can. And so, we push back our own cost increases and when we try hard to make sure we pass through what we can to the OEMs we deal with. So, it’s not an easy story. But, pricing elasticity is not bad at the moment, given the market is moving up..

Patrick Wu

Okay. I guess, the second half of my question where I asked about pricing offsetting inflation and that’s just strictly the $5 million that you guys called out related to steel and aluminum. Right? And….

Randy Baker

Yes. That’s a material pricing alone. But, what we look at freight over time and all wage increases as well, so that’s what our schedule price increases do anyway is try to make sure that we’re capturing those cost increases in our pricing.

The second thing that we do is a course of operation part of our lean process on the quality cost delivery safety metrics is our cost metric. So, we are trying to drive everything from material savings, technical savings and operational efficiency savings that also helps us to offset those costs.

I can say we are not particularly good at that yet but that’s one of the things Rick and I are pushing really hard to get this Company where we are good at it..

Rick Dillon

So, just to be sure, pricing is -- overall pricing is not just aimed at the estimated impact of tariffs and those tariffs that impact will feather in over the Q3 and Q4.

So, the pricing actions we’re talking about are all of the pressures and really these are actions that were in place based on inflationary activity before the tariffs were even implemented?.

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Seth Weber from RBC Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Seth Weber

First, just a couple of clarifications.

Rick, did you say that the Industrial margins are up year-over-year or is that sequentially versus the second quarter when you’re talking about the back half?.

Rick Dillon

It’s both actually and certainly sequentially..

Seth Weber

Okay..

Rick Dillon

Up modestly year-over-year, but, up nonetheless..

Seth Weber

Okay. And then, I think, what I heard you say was the warranty costs for ES was -- it’s a $3 million flip basically from second half versus first half.

Is that right?.

Rick Dillon

No. That was all of the issues between HLT and warranty. That’s the flip first half versus second half, not -- certainly not $3 million of warranty for ES..

Seth Weber

Okay. So, warranty was more like $1 million of saving, you said heavy lift was $2 million. I’m just trying to my number squared up here....

Rick Dillon

Yeah, roughly, roughly, kind of the all other bucket amounts to about $1 million..

Seth Weber

Okay. That’s helpful. Thank you. And then, my question is really on the Industrial, on the core tool incremental margin. I think you said it was 20%. What I’m trying to just make sure I am understanding is it sounds like you’re pulling back on some of the growth investments. I think, you said it was $2 million in the quarter.

But, what I’m trying to understand is, are the new products that you’re coming out with, the new initiatives, are they coming out at a lower margin initially or they’re kind of start-up costs associated with these new products that are structurally lower, weighing on your incremental margins? And, I guess, do you expect incremental margins to kind of snap back to that 30% to 40% range for the core industrial business?.

Randy Baker

So, let me try to address. When you start doing product development after essentially a total standstill in a company where you had very, very little investment in new product development, and as I said in my commentary, what we will launch this year will exceed the combined total launches over the past several years.

And so, question one you had is what about margins and how will the new products come in on line average. We have targeted margins that are in my opinion world-class in the Enerpac tool company. We’re trying to bring in all our new product introductions at that range, and we’ve been able to accomplish that.

But where we spend money on launching products during the year is you’ve got to get down the units out, you’ve got to get training materials out, you have to seed the inventory into the channel and you have to train the channel and get them excited about selling it. That doesn’t happen for free.

And so, as I said, that is one of the most important capital allocation decisions I think I can make is investing in ourselves to drive one of the best tool companies on this planet. We know the kind of margins this company drives. Every incremental tool that I can put into the catalog will expand what we do for our distribution.

I am so committed that that is the right direction. So, as Rick said, absent the investments in what we’ve made in that business, we were in the 20s on incremental margins on a year-to-date basis for our tool company. Going forward, as we anniversary the baseline of our investments, you will see an incremental margin between 35% and 40%.

And that’s what I’ve been consistent about. The days of having a 65% incremental margin is not indicative of a company that’s investing in itself. It’s a company that’s milking a business unit for cash and not investing in the future.

And my very strong opinion on this and where we’re driving this company is to invest in our tool business and drive that to another level. And that’s going to take product development. We’ve whipped our sales force into shape. We are capturing share.

But, I’ve got to get these dealers and sales guys on the ground something new to sell next quarter or that will level out. So that’s why it’s so important to keep that going..

Rick Dillon

So, just to pile on and be clear here, the incremental margins that you see in that 20% range are not the result of launching new product at less than run rate margin for tools. It is reflective of the investments, as Randy pointed out, little bit of inflation, but we are not launching products that are diluting the margin in any way.

And I think more importantly, the products have to get out there and have to take traction. And that’s why Randy talks about going forward next year, you will see normal incrementals as we go forward and we kind of anniversary these investments. But, not diluting the margins for standard tools by new products..

Operator

Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Justin Bergner from Gabelli & Company. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Justin Bergner

A few quick clarification questions. The $5 million in cost that you highlighted for the industrial segment to the tune of 1 has been sort of headwinds that will dissipate.

Should we expect all those $5 million in costs to dissipate in coming quarters and perhaps by Q4 if not by Q3?.

Rick Dillon

No, we talked about they should be less than they are today but the $5 million is comprised of the tensioning business and that was about $1 million, the heavy lift was about $2 million. Those two specifically we said will continue, continue to have those pressures but they will be less than that $3 million you saw in Q2 specifically.

And then, we just talked about the $2 million in SAE. And while you’ll see investment in the back half, you will still see some investment. To answer your question, no, they don’t completely go away. It’s just a less spending on it and fewer losses on the back half..

Justin Bergner

Okay.

And then, the 4 to $5 million of restructuring savings run rate in the second half versus the first half, just to understand that, does that mean you’re going to have a 4 to $5 million benefit in the second half versus the first half or in each quarter of the second half versus the first half?.

Rick Dillon

Two things. The 4 to $5 million was the entire service excellence and some of the restructuring activities that we did for Hydratight. So, I just want to clarify it’s not just restructuring.

And it’s the back half, front half benefit and 4 to $5 million is really more run rate level savings than what you are going to see in Q -- the restructuring piece will be muted, because it’s not the full run rate of the savings, the service excellence will be the full-bore in Q4 primarily..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question comes is a follow-up question from the line of Mig Dobre from Baird. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Mig Dobre

Thanks for taking my follow-up. I have two of them. Randy, just in your prepared remarks, you were talking about focusing your investment in your higher margin business. I don’t want to read too much into it. But, are you implying here that there are portion of your business that maybe get a little bit less attention or a love going forward.

Can we be looking at additional portfolio adjustments down the line?.

Randy Baker

The answer is yes. If you recall from the Investor Day, we targeted around a $100 million in businesses that what arguably we were improving but from a strategic standpoint they didn’t fit that we intended to explore our options to move them out of the portfolio and do what we could do and then redeploy those dollars into great businesses.

That’s what that means; plain and simple is that we have to get this portfolio to a world-class level in terms of margins. And that’s going to take some clean up in the portfolio and it’s what we discussed in October and we are accelerating that now..

Mig Dobre

Yes. I mean, where are you in the process? What sort of inning are you in conducting these evaluations….

Randy Baker

I’d say, we are in late innings in the process of evaluation. We know exactly what we need to do. The process of beginning to action that and explore the alternatives, I would say we are in the first couple of innings..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is also a follow-up question from the line of Scott Graham from BMO Capital Markets. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Scott Graham

So, really, has there being any thought given to -- we seem to be spending money to drive sales but not really having the funding to spend that money yet still drive the margins. And I know you’re peeling back some of your spending in the second half of the year.

I guess, my questions are, A, are you peeling that back just to make sure you make the numbers; and B, what can we view on the ongoing -- not restructuring, none of the onetime stuff, but what do we do in the factories that we really need to push up their quality? Let’s put it that way.

What can we do in those factories to get productivity going to fund the expenses?.

Randy Baker

So, let me deal with the investing part first, particularly in two areas. Area one is in our tool companies. And so, we had to completely reconfigure and recruit and engineering staff. As I’ve discussed in other meetings with our investors is that when I came, there were no chief engineers of any tool platform within the business.

And so, we had to do recruiting to get, number one, structure in place, we had to get some processes in place, and then, we had to get a pipeline of what those tools look like. So, now that we’ve made those investments, and I can tell you that that total investment on the scale of its return is quite small.

Now, what my commentary was referencing is that we’re going to hold that level of investment at a static level until we start getting the remaining products launched this year.

And then, we will go back at it again, once we’ve established okay, this is an appropriate level, we’re getting in a number of projects we want, and we’re being successful in the marketplace.

On the manufacturing side, what can we do there? So, we’ve cleaned up these factories that we’ve got some of the efficiency cleaned up, we’ve got the quality better, we’ve got the delivery better. In fact, most of our OTD rates and quality rates have gone to best in class.

And that’s why we’ve recaptured a lot of our OEMs that have walked away from us. Where we really have a lot of work left to do is on the cost side and that’s -- that falls directly on our ability to schedule our labor appropriately and cycle material to those either machine sales or assembly sales and do it well.

And when you don’t get schedule right, what do you yet? You get 60% labor efficiency. And I can tell you there’s a lot of our factories left that only have 60% labor efficiency, which means we’re leaving money on the shop floor. So, that’s a big thrust between now and the end of the year. We’ve gotten our customers happy.

We’re getting their business back. Now, we’ve got to be a quality supplier and deliver the types of margins we need to get to be successful. And so, that’s the game plan right now. And I can tell you, of all the businesses I’ve run in my career, this has been one of the most difficult turnarounds on the factory floor..

Scott Graham

Right. But, are you talking about getting to that equilibrium, where you can gainfully spend and the sales are obviously showing that that’s working but….

Randy Baker

Yes. It’s a tale of different.

Scott Graham

…fund to that spending through productivity -- ongoing productivity, not restructuring.

Are you getting to that sort of point or is that maybe not in the plan?.

Randy Baker

Well, in some of the businesses, I would say we’re seeing the ability to outgrow the market, which helps us fund what you’re describing. And then, you get a compounded effect, where when the plant starts really performing.

I can tell you that the Columbus operations, which is our primary Enerpac tool plant, when we started, that was not a well-run facility. They have just achieved an A rating in terms of quality cost delivery and safety. They have some of the best safety records that we’ve gotten in years. We’ve gotten our OTD rate well above the 95% level.

Our quality rate now is the manufacturing levels that would be acceptable in the auto industry, which is a DPPM rate of less than 500. It’s all of things that we should be delivering if we’re going to be a world-class tool company. And that’s helping us to be a more responsive supplier.

What’s left to do at Columbus and with the Enerpac team is to better forecast on material demand and getting our supply chain cleaned up, so that we don’t have to put inventory in to be a world-class supplier. Now, that’s still some heavy lifting that will generate additional money and particularly cash flow for us.

So, we’ve got couple of million dollars of excess inventory end up in our in Enerpac business, but as I said when you have the kind of margins we do, I’d rather have it on the shelf than not if it can get you an order. So Jeff and I are working through how to make that happen..

Operator

Thank you. And our next question is a follow-up question from the line of Justin Bergner from Gabelli & Co. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Justin Bergner

Thanks for the follow-up. On the Enerpac side, are you seeing a better outlook for the fiscal year than you saw three months ago? I know you mentioned the concrete tensioning and heavy lifting have a more subdued outlook.

But with that sort of good end market and macro data, are you seeing an improved outlook for Enerpac at this point?.

Randy Baker

So, the tools side, I’d say it’s slightly better than what we had planned. We’ve seen some nice high single digit, double digit growth in the tool side. If you’ve looked at a lot of the latest reports, particularly Cleveland Research, the vertical markets are in the best place they’ve been in a long, long time.

So, what we are really feeling is the confidence that our tool company will continue to grow at the rates that we have. And then, as we start launching more and more new products in our third and fourth quarter, that’s going to help us as well.

But, I think the core sales growth that’s associated with tools is pretty well pegged where it needs to be with some slight upside..

Operator

The last question is from Stanley Elliott from Stifel. Please go ahead. Your line is open..

Stanley Elliott

A quick question on the dual brand strategy on the tools, within this quarter kind of second tier brands have also 20% sort of incrementals.

And then, when we think about with some of the cost kind of out of the equation that we’re looking at incrementals for that particular segment of the tool business being north of 30% as well?.

Randy Baker

Yes. The two sub-brands that we have which are the second tier price points and second tier of technical is in the Larzep business and our Simplex business, and we’ve seen some nice growth there. We are dealing with some issues with some of our regional markets of getting distribution set up quickly enough.

And in North America, we have one area in particular that kind of muted our growth, but overall it’s doing better. The thing I like about this business, it has line average margins very similar to the standard product in Enerpac.

So, by taking technical content up and it’s way we designed that you are not giving up margin as a means of grabbing market share, which is what we didn’t want to do. We didn’t want to cannibalize the top tier product with the second tier product range. And it still appears to be working..

Operator

And I will turn the call back over to you..

Karen Bauer

Thanks. Well, thanks everyone for joining our call today. I’ll be around all day to take any follow-up questions you have. Please mark your calendars now for June 20th. That will be our third quarter earnings call date. Have a great day..

Operator

Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude the conference call for today. We thank you for your participation and we ask that you please disconnect the lines..

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