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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2015 - Q1
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Executives

Jud Bergman - Chairman and CEO Pete D'Arrigo - CFO.

Analysts

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners Chris Shutler - William Blair.

Operator

Good day, ladies and gentlemen, and welcome to the Envestnet First Quarter 2015 Earnings Conference Call. As a reminder, today's presentation is being recorded. At this time I'd like to turn the conference over to Mr. Pete D'Arrigo, Chief Financial Officer. Please go ahead, sir..

Pete D'Arrigo

Thank you and good afternoon everyone. Our first quarter 2015 earnings press release and the associated Form 8-K can be found at Envestnet.com, under the Investor Relations section.

During this conference call we will be discussing certain non-GAAP information, including adjusted revenues, adjusted EBITDA, adjusted net income, and adjusted net income per share. This information is not calculated in accordance with GAAP and may be calculated differently than other companies similarly titled Non-GAAP Information.

Quantitative reconciliations of our non-GAAP financial information to the most directly comparable GAAP information appear in today's press release. During the call we will also be discussing certain forward-looking information. These discussions are not guarantees of future performance and therefore you should not put undue reliance on them.

These statements are subject to numerous risks and uncertainties that could cause them to differ materially from what we expect. Please refer to our most recent SEC filings as well as our earnings press release which are available on our website for more information on factors that could affect these matters.

This call is being webcast live and will be available for replay for one month on our website. All remarks made during the call are current at the time of the call and will not be updated to reflect subsequent material developments. We will take questions after our prepared remarks. Now I will introduce Jud Bergman, our Chairman and CEO..

Jud Bergman

registered investment advisors, independent broker-dealers, insurance broker-dealers, insurers, banks, bank broker-dealers, and bank trust departments. Our onboarding teams are fully engaged in some of the largest and most complex conversions in the Company's history.

As these conversions are completed, we expect to see the benefits in the latter part of this year and of course beyond that as well. Turning to strategic activity, yesterday we announced the acquisition of Finance Logix, a financial planning software company.

As we previously discussed and indicated, advisors had been requesting for some time now for us to offer a tightly integrated platform where financial planning flows seamlessly into the investment and portfolio management process.

This expanded capability, long requested, is now a core element of an industry trend towards goals-based wealth management. And this acquisition strengthens our ability to lead in this fundamental way.

Also we announced this morning at our summit that we will be launching our next-generation digital advice portal called Advisor Now, which fully leverages our investment in Upside announced earlier, as well as the investments made in our enterprise wealth management platform.

Advisor Now combines our client portal with the fully integrated front, middle and back-office platform. By platform, again we mean the app stack that includes CRM, data aggregation, investment solutions, proposal generation, portfolio analytics and accounting, rebalancing, account servicing, and goals-based performance reporting.

By leveraging technology, we seek to strengthen the ways advisors engage with their clients and help them deliver better outcomes. And also with Advisor Now, to help advisors form a new advisor client synapse, a new digital dimension of engagement.

We continue to evaluate merger and acquisition opportunities that can further add functionality or scale to our platform or add significant strategic benefit or capabilities that expand our network and expand our platform.

We are actively evaluating opportunities in the market and will remain both disciplined and appropriately opportunistic in our ongoing evaluation of these growth accelerators. I will conclude with a few remarks in a moment, but first I'd like to turn it over to Pete to discus our financial performance in greater detail..

Pete D'Arrigo

Thank you, Jud. Turning to the first quarter results, I will start with revenue. Revenue from assets under management or administration grew 21% to $81.1 million compared to $67.1 million in the first quarter of 2014. Licensing and professional services revenue in the first quarter was $15.4 million, up 34% from $11.5 million a year ago.

In total, adjusted revenue increased 23% to $96.5 million in the first quarter, from $78.5 million in the first quarter of last year. Our cost of revenue increased to $38.7 million for the quarter from $34.4 million last year. As a percentage of revenue from assets under management and administration, cost of revenue was 47.7%.

Adjusted EBITDA was $16.8 million for the first quarter, 43% higher than the 2014 first quarter. Adjusted earnings per share was $0.22 in the first quarter, increasing 29% from $0.17 last year. I will note that in the first quarter our effective tax rate was 44% on a GAAP pretax basis.

This higher-than-expected rate was driven by several factors, most notably related to limitations on the use of certain acquired net operating losses. Our diluted share count during the first quarter was 37.3 million shares, up 800,000 shares from the first quarter of last year.

Looking forward, we expect our revenue from assets under management or administration to be up 17% to 19% in the second quarter compared to the second quarter of last year. This reflects an effective fee rate of approximately 12.9 to 13.2 basis points on our beginning AUMA asset base of $256 billion.

Licensing and professional services revenue for the second quarter of 2015 should be up approximately 29% to 31% year over year. This includes just over $500,000 from Finance Logix for the portion of the quarter that we own the business. Adjusted revenues for the second quarter should increase between 19% and 21% year over year.

We expect second quarter cost of revenues to be between 50% and 51% of AUMA revenue, and I'll point out that approximately $2 million of licensing and professional services revenue and the cost of revenues is related to the Advisor Summit.

We expect our adjusted EBITDA to increase 33% to 35% in the second quarter compared to the second quarter of last year. Pretax cash interest expense is still expected to be approximately $800,000, with after-tax impact of approximately $500,000 on adjusted net income. We expect our effective tax rate in the second quarter to be approximately 40%.

Diluted shares outstanding should be approximately 37.7 million shares for the second quarter based on yesterday's closing stock price, and these expectations translate to adjusted earnings per share of $0.22 to $0.23.

I would also like to point out that deferred revenue has increased by over $4 million from December 31st, and we expect this to increase by another $1 million to $2 million over the rest of 2015. As Jud referenced, our conversion pipeline is very full and includes some large, complex enterprise clients.

This deferred revenue reflects payments from new clients that we are in the process of onboarding under multiple element contracts. While these clients are paying fees for implementation, the recognition of this revenue will not occur until the implementation of these clients is complete.

Then the amount will be amortized over the expected life of the client. As we work with more larger clients, we are beginning to see the impact on our financial results -- we're beginning to see the impact of this dynamic on our financial results. Thank you again for your interest and support of Envestnet.

And with that, I'll hand it back to Jud for his closing remarks..

Jud Bergman

Thank you, Pete. Envestnet is committed to empowering advisors to deliver better outcomes for their clients. And to do this, by developing a truly unified end-to-end wealth management platform.

The developments we have highlighted today demonstrate our commitment to fulfill our mission to advisors, investors and our enterprise partners, as we continue our efforts to both lead and benefit from the far-reaching transformation that is happening in wealth management.

To update our guidance for 2015, we expect EBITDA to grow between 33% and 38% when compared to 2014. And we expect revenue growth of 20% to 22% compared to one year ago. I want to thank you again for your time this afternoon, to thank you genuinely for your support of Envestnet.

And with the conclusion of these prepared remarks, we are happy to take your questions..

Operator

Thank you so much. [Operator Instructions] Our first question will come from Chris Donat with Sandler O'Neill..

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill

Good afternoon, gentlemen. Thanks for taking my call..

Pete D'Arrigo

Hi, Chris..

Jud Bergman

Hey, Chris..

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill

Hey, Jud. I just wanted to make sure I got up from your guidance you just issued there for 2015. So it's basically the same adjusted EBITDA growth but a little lower revenue growth, so, 20% to 22%, down from 21% to 24% before.

Can you tell me what's driving that? And is it basically what Pete just said, that you're seeing the revenue accumulate in deferred revenue rather than flowing onto the income statement now?.

Jud Bergman

Yes. So there's several factors. I do think one thing that is a factor is that just core advisor activity did seem to ease on a per-advisor amount in the first quarter. Number of advisors are up, number of accounts per advisors are up, but they aren't up as much as we'd seen in the past. So that's one factor.

A second one is that the big conversions are going to be backend-loaded for the year, that's what we expect. So last year they were -- sort of the big ones were brought on more ratably, we now expect that they're going to be a bit more back-ended this year. So that's a small -- these are both small factors.

A bigger factor is what Pete talked about, and that is that, in these large complex conversions under contract, going more or less according to plan where we are receiving revenue for the actual conversion preliminary stages as well as work that we've customized development, this is a relatively new dynamic for us because it comes from having these complex clients involved in multi-element contracts.

And so there's going to be $5 million or $6 million by the end of the year that our expectation that will not be a part of this year's recognized revenue. So that's another element. Now -- so that all goes to the top line.

We're continuing to make investments in AlphaHedge, Finance Logix, our retirement solutions business that's showing a lot of promise but still is in an investment mode.

And so that we're rebalancing the top line expectations with the expanded operating leverage or enhanced operating leverage, and that's why we're able to affirm, if you will, the EBITDA guidance along with the updated overall guidance..

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill

Okay. And then just one follow-up here is on -- with your full-year guidance, that now includes on the revenue side incremental -- that's $500,000 for the full year --.

Jud Bergman

No, no. That would be for -- the $500,000 is a portion of the second quarter, from May, whatever, May 6th [ph] on through June 30..

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill

All right. Okay.

But then those full-year guidance now, because you didn't have Finance Logix before, that wasn't in the earlier part of the guidance, right, the guidance you gave a quarter ago?.

Jud Bergman

That is correct, yes..

Chris Donat - Sandler O'Neill

Okay. Okay. Thanks very much then. I'll hop back in the queue here..

Operator

Thank you, Chris. Our next question will come from Peter Heckmann with Avondale..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

Good afternoon, gentlemen. I just wanted to see if you could comment on WMS and the conversion of those remaining institutions.

Do you have any better visibility into when you may be completed with that?.

Jud Bergman

We do have better visibility, it's a little bit longer along the path, and our expectations there are unchanged from our last communication with you..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

Okay, okay.

But higher confidence because you're closer to the goal?.

Jud Bergman

Higher confidence closer to it..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

Okay, great. And then, Pete, the cost of goods as a percent of AUMA was a little bit higher than what I was looking for in your guidance.

And I'm just trying to figure out, is a portion of that due to the acquisition of Finance Logix or is it mixed? Can you talk about that a little bit?.

Pete D'Arrigo

No, it's related to the Advisor Summit which happens in the second quarter. So if you back about $2 million out of the cost of revenues, then you'll see a percentage that's a little more in line with last quarter..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

Okay, okay. All right, great. Then last question, I'll get back in the queue, Jud, during your Advisor Summit, clearly we've seen some activity on the acquisition front.

What type of demand are you seeing from advisors and their clients for robo-type solutions? It seems like we're looking at trying to incorporate that capability and I'm wondering if you're trying to get ahead of the market, if you're seeing demand from advisors, you're seeing demand from end-clients.

And just how should we think about robo advisors and more automated solutions? What does that do longer term to the fee rate received by advisors?.

Jud Bergman

So, boy, there's a lot of points to that. That's like three or four questions, Pete..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

Sorry..

Jud Bergman

That's okay. I'm going to try to respond to them, although I didn't lay it all down, so if I -- before you get back in line, you get a follow-up question just to make sure I'm getting everything. So first of all, what we're getting on the advisor front.

In general, most advisors I would say do not see an acute threat to their business from the so-called robo advisors. Some see no threat at all, some see a great threat, but the majority see not a significant threat from the robo advisors.

Having said that, we have already a number of very progressive or forward-thinking, ahead of the curve, whatever you want to describe it as, advisors who are now running their business for a major portion of their business on a predominantly or exclusively digital advise offering that's powered by Envestnet.

One of the things that I was a bit surprised by, that if you look at the part of Envestnet's business that supports that type of practice, it's a handful of firms but it's about $15 billion of assets and about 50,000 of accounts or so.

So there's a fair number of business being done by advisors who have adopted this digital advice platform and are leveraging it to grow their business. But they're the outliers. They are very few. And so our capability exists, we're ready to deploy it.

But the bigger dynamic I think is trying to bring the advisor and enterprise community, the advice -- the professional advice community to an understanding that, by -- that they can leverage their practice, they can reach new markets.

Let's call them affluent or high net worth millennials, and they may even be able to better service in a more cost-effective way accounts that may be small or smaller than what they've done in the past. It comes back to that into new markets piece.

And so, most advisors aren't there but there's an increasing level of interest, and our booth has been filled with people around the Advisor Now offering, how can I deploy this? When can I deploy it? How does it work? What are the implications to my practice? So it's a long answer.

Some advisors, it's a big spectrum, some advisors, a handful, are way ahead on this. Most are trying to figure out what they need. We're ready to help them. And we talk about helping them cross the digital divide.

That digital divide is the difference between where they're running their practice now and where it really needs to be in terms of increased engagement with the end-client. That's what it's all about. And they're very good at a person to person, face to face, but they need a new synapse.

And that new synapse is a digital dimension where they extend their IP, their approach, their philosophy but it's leveraged and extended using Envestnet technology. So it's a long answer.

But did I leave anything up?.

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

That was helpful.

The only thing that I was looking for initial comment on is, as they incorporate robo advisors, does that change the fee rate that they're getting from clients?.

Jud Bergman

Oh, fee rates. Okay. So it impacts it but not quite in the way that you might think. If you look at the average fee rate charged by the so-called robo advisors, it runs from 25 to 75 basis points. We think that the average is probably around 50 or 52 or 53 basis points. But it's a commoditized advice.

It doesn't include sophisticated tax, estate, financial planning. It doesn't include sophisticated tax management or tax alpha. It doesn't include sophisticated vehicle selection. In many cases it's a good offering but it's algorithmically derived asset class selection and allocation, portfolio construction, and maybe rebalancing.

So I look at it, one of the benefits of the robo advisor is that they're setting a market clearing rate for commoditized digital advice of let's call it 50 basis points.

And the vast majority of advisors believe that they add a lot of value beyond that in financial planning, in tax and estate planning, in tax management, and to some extent, in vehicle selection, investment selection. So this is new, it's too early. We obviously -- no one has a crystal ball.

But we expect that this will have an effect on some advisors' fee rates, but it will have a confirming effect on the best advisors' fee rates..

Peter Heckmann - Avondale Partners

That's helpful. Thank you..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] Our next question will come from Chris Shutler with William Blair..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Hi guys. Good afternoon..

Jud Bergman

Hi, Chris..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

So, first, just want to touch on the Finance Logix deal and what's implied in the guidance. So I think you said $500,000 for two months.

So, does that imply $2 million for the full year?.

Pete D'Arrigo

No. So, $500,000 for a little less than two months gets you closer to $900,000 for a quarter..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Okay..

Pete D'Arrigo

So it'd probably be 2-1/2 for 2015, but annualized, it's closer to 3.6 or so..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Yup. Okay, makes sense.

And the EBITDA impact is meaningless or is there one?.

Pete D'Arrigo

It's incorporated. Right now it's, you know, give or take a little bit. It's not meaningful either way..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Okay. And then just one more on the same topic.

Placemark revenue in the quarter, can you give us that?.

Pete D'Arrigo

Placemark was about $6 million..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Okay, great. And then on the conversion commentary, Jud, sounds, you know, continued positive commentary there, so, just a few questions. One, just wondering, is it more skewed towards AUM/AUA or licensing? And then, I know that you're seeing you're working on some of the largest, most complex conversions in your history.

Maybe just give us a sense what types of firms are in that mix and what technologies you're hoping to displace..

Jud Bergman

So there's two that popped to mind. One is a wealth management firm that currently has essentially a homegrown platform, with one of the incumbents in the portfolio accounting system is there. So there is going to be a change in the portfolio accounting system and the resulted portfolio management systems.

But it's -- there's some customization work and it's, you know, it's a significant conversion for the Company. Another profile would be a large insurer that has not only a wealth management business but also a brokerage business.

And they're looking to incorporate meaningful elements of their insurance business, not their insurance broker-dealer, but their insurance business, in the recording, analytics and paperwork automation, new account automation workflow, into this new platform.

And this platform again is a combination of stitched-together single-point applications from, you know, you could they're competitors but they're competitors in one area, and there will be -- in that case there's a couple of people we consider competitors could be displaced.

Again one is a "operating system" and the other is a unified managed account provider. In the former, it's going to be more of a licensed conversion, although there is some AUA involved. In the case of the insurance, again these follow somewhat predictable patterns based on the channel that they are.

It's more of a -- it's more of an AUM/A mix that, you know, is not -- it's not unlike what our current book of business is for AUM/A. So, I don't know, that's -- Chris, that's -- I don't know if I -- I don't know if any more would be helpful. I don't even know if that's helpful..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

Yeah, that's definitely helpful, Jud. And then just one more you, if I may sneak it in. I'm just curious on the Finance Logix deal.

Just how that -- the level of integration, if you're an advisor, how the level of integration now that you own a financial planning company -- how that's going to feel different for the advisor versus some of the other integrations you had with the competitors like eMoney or MoneyGuidePro, et cetera? Just how it's going to feel different, why somebody might want that versus what you had before?.

Jud Bergman

Okay. That's a very good question. From the advisor look and feel, I expect no meaningful difference. We expect to have deep integration. Let's take, use eMoney as an example. We have an integration, we expect to have a deep and seamless integration with eMoney. eMoney has got a lot of very satisfied users.

And it's a great software package, platform and practice managements. What we do with Finance Logix will also be deeply and seamlessly integrated.

And our vision, which is open architecture, is sometimes we'll develop the application, that's our preferred way of doing it, because we've got, I don't know, 150, 170 engineers, that's our preferred way of doing it. Sometimes it'll require the application. Sometimes we'll partner and integrate deeply with a third party provider.

The advantage long term for us in developing it or acquiring it, which always takes some additional development, is that when you own the resources and the domain knowledge in the code base, you can do things that might work better in tandem or in harmony.

So we'll do a deep integration but their business is going to, if it's a third party, it's going to adapt and evolve in ways beyond Envestnet, because Envestnet, while we're the largest platform provider in this independent space, we're not the only one.

In contrast with Finance Logix, over time the kinds of features and functionality are going to evolve, more in keeping with the Envestnet user base. And I think that that's an advantage for advisors that use Envestnet over time. Either one is great. And so that's the -- that's how we look at it..

Chris Shutler - William Blair

All right. Thanks a lot..

Operator

Thank you. And at this time we have no further questions in the queue. I'll turn the conference back over to Mr. Bergman for any additional or closing remarks..

Jud Bergman

I thank you for your time, your support. Thank you for the very insightful questions. And look forward to talking with you soon. Thank you. Good afternoon..

Operator

Thank you. And again, ladies and gentlemen, that does conclude our conference for today. We thank you for your participation..

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