Bob Livingston – President and CEO Brad Cerepak – SVP and CFO Paul Goldberg – VP, IR.
Andrew Obin – Banc of America Merrill Lynch Scott Davis – Barclays Capital Jeff Sprague – Vertical Research Partners John Inch – Deutsche Bank Nigel Coe –Morgan Stanley Steve Winoker – Sanford C. Bernstein & Co. Jamie Sullivan – RBC Capital Markets Steve Tusa – JPMorgan Chase & Co.
Julian Mitchell – Credit Suisse Deane Dray – Citigroup Charley Brady – BMO Capital Markets.
Good morning, and welcome to the Second Quarter 2014 Dover Corporation Earnings Conference Call. With us today are Bob Livingston, President and Chief Executive Officer; Brad Cerepak, Senior Vice President and CFO; and Paul Goldberg, Vice President of Investor Relations. After the speakers’ opening remarks, there will be a question-and-answer period.
(Operator Instructions). As a reminder, ladies and gentlemen, this conference call is being recorded and your participation implies consent to our recording of this call. If you do not agree with these terms, please disconnect at this time. Thank you. I would now like to turn the call over to Mr. Paul Goldberg. Mr. Goldberg, please go ahead, sir..
Thank you, Laurie. Good morning and welcome to Dover’s second quarter earnings call. Today’s call will begin with some comments from Bob and Brad on Dover’s second quarter operating and financial performance and follow with an update of our 2014 outlook. We will then open up the call to questions.
As a courtesy, we kindly ask that you limit yourself to one question with a follow-up. Please note that our current earnings release, Form 10-Q, investor supplement and associated presentation, can all be found on our website, www.dovercorporation.com.
This call will be available for playback through July 31 and the audio portion of this call will be archived on our website for 3 months. The replay telephone number is 800-585-8367. When accessing the playback, you’ll need to supply the following access code, 68710499.
Before we get started, I’d like to remind everyone that our comments today, which are intended to supplement your understanding of Dover, may contain certain forward-looking statements that are inherently subject to uncertainties.
We caution everyone to be guided in their analysis of Dover by referring to our Forms 10-K and 10-Q for a list of factors that could cause our results to differ from those anticipated in any such forward-looking statement. Also, we undertake no obligation to publicly update or revise any forward-looking statements except as required by law.
We would also direct your attention to our website, where considerably more information can be found. And with that, let me turn the call over to Bob..
Thanks, Paul. Good morning, everyone, and thank you for joining us for this morning’s conference call. I was pleased with our second quarter results, which were highlighted by solid revenue and strong bookings growth, reflecting the continued momentum across the majority of our businesses.
Most notably, Fluids delivered 12% growth and Engineered Systems grew 9%. In all, we generated 6% revenue growth and grew EPS 14%. From a geographic perspective, U.S., Europe and Asia all showed solid organic growth year-over-year. Conversely, Latin America and Brazil activity was softer over that same period.
Now, let me share some specific comments on the quarter. In Energy, we continued to benefit from improving well activity and an increased rig count, primarily in our core production and drilling markets. Our bearings and compression revenue was impacted by lower OEM build rates.
However, bookings were quite strong, setting us up well for the balance of the year. Within Engineered Systems, we saw strong growth across both platforms. In Printing and Identification growth in both our fast moving consumer goods and industrial markets complemented by acquisitions, resulted in strong performance.
The industrial platform also saw broad-based revenue growth led by outstanding results in both environmental solutions and vehicle services. Our fluid segment performed well, where generally healthy market conditions for both pumps and fluid transfer products complemented by recent acquisitions, resulted in solid revenue growth.
Our pumps businesses are benefitting from strong demand and the specialty chemicals vertical while fluid transfer is seeing continued strength driven by increased regulatory activity. Our refrigeration and food equipment results were generally solid in the second quarter led by strong growth in food equipment.
Our quarter two refrigeration results were modestly impacted by the timing of shipments as we completed the transition to our new Atlanta manufacturing center. We expect revenue to accelerate in the third quarter driven by strong bookings and backlog in refrigeration.
In all, we were pleased with the first half and are positioned well to deliver solid full year results. Business activity in our largest markets continues to be strong as evidence by our bookings and backlog. We also continued to execute on our core productivity and growth strategies in the quarter.
Notably, we’ve completed the move to our new consolidated manufacturing facilities in Houston and Atlanta. These facilities not only improve manufacturing efficiency, but we also believe our customer service capabilities will be enhanced. Our acquisition pipeline developed nicely in the quarter.
I feel confident we will be able to close several deals that expand our product offerings in served markets, especially within fluids and energy.
Regarding our near term business activity, we expect ongoing strong performance in energy, driven by the increased North America well activity, continued growth in Engineered Systems driven by solid U.S industrial trends and global growth in Printing and Identification, strong results in our fluid market on the benefits of our recent acquisitions, and generally healthy end markets and improved sequential results in our refrigeration business.
In summary, the combination of a strong first half, robust bookings and a growing backlog and our positioning with customers gives me confidence to raise our full year EPS guidance. With that, let me turn it over to Brad. .
Thanks Bob. Good morning, everyone. Let's start on Slide 3 of our presentation deck. Today we reported second quarter revenue of $2 billion, an increase of 6%. Organic revenue grew 3% and growth from acquisitions was also 3%. Adjusted EPS was $1.29, an increase of 14%. Segment margin for the quarter was 18.3%, essentially flat with last year.
In the quarter we saw margin improvement of 40 basis points in both our energy and refrigeration and food equipment segments. Of note, our overall margin would have been up 40 basis points, adjusting for the impact of acquisitions. Bookings increased 11% over the prior year to $2.1 billion.
This result represents broad-based growth across the company highlighted by 26% growth in fluids and 15% growth in energy. Engineered Systems and refrigeration of food equipment both posted bookings growth of 5%. Overall, book to bill finished at a strong 1.02, which sets us up well for the back half of the year.
Our backlog increased significantly in the quarter, up 12% to $1.6 billion. Free cash flow $154 million for the quarter or 8% of revenue. Free cash flow reflected higher working capital in anticipation of a strong third quarter. For the full year we continue to forecast free cash flow of approximately 11% of revenue.
Now turning to Slide 4, all segments showed organic growth in the quarter. Engineered Systems grew 5% with broad-based growth across both platforms. Energy grew 3% on the continued strength of drilling activity. Fluids & Refrigeration and in food equipment grew 2% and 1% respectively, resulting in overall organic revenue growth of 3%.
Acquisition growth in the quarter was 3% comprised of 9% in fluids, 4% Engineered Systems and 1% in energy. Turning to Slide 5 and our sequential results. Revenue increased 9% from the first quarter, where normal seasonal growth of 27% in refrigeration and food equipment was complemented by 8% growth in Engineered Systems.
Fluids and energy were both largely unchanged sequentially. Sequential bookings grew 2%, demonstrating continued momentum coming off a strong first quarter. This result was led by 10% growth in refrigeration and food equipment. Fluids grew by 3% and energy was essentially unchanged, whereas Engineered Systems decreased 3%.
Overall, the bookings activity was quite positive and positions as well as we begin the second half of the year. Now on slide 6. Energy revenue of $481 million increased 3% and earnings of $115 million were up 5% over last year.
Energy produced another good quarter with solid revenue growth in our drilling and production markets, offsetting softness in our bearings end markets related to OEM build rates. Within drilling and production, growth was driven by improving well activity and the continued strong performance of our drilling businesses.
Notably, our core U.S artificial lift business grew sharply and more than offset tough comps related to our largest drilling contract, which is winding down. We believe we’re well positioned for a follow on contract, which is expected to be awarded later this year.
Operating margin of 23.9% improved 40 basis points from last year and was in line with our expectations. Bookings were $477 million, a 15% increase over the prior year reflecting broad-based growth across those segments, driven by generally healthy end markets. Book to bill was 0.99. Now turning to Slide 7.
Engineered Systems had a strong quarter, with sales of $699 million in earnings of $112 million, each increased 9%. Our Printing & Identification platform increased 15% to $287 million, driven by broad-based organic growth of 6% and recent acquisitions. In the Industrial platform, revenue grew 6% to $412 million, reflecting 5% organic growth.
Our environmental solutions and vehicle service activity remains particularly strong in this platform. Margin remained steady at 16.1% with the benefits of ongoing productivity initiatives largely offset product mix and acquisition related costs. Bookings were $692 million, an increase of 5%.
Our Printing & Identification bookings increased 9% to $282 million, boosted by recent acquisitions and strong activity in the U.S and in Europe. Industrial bookings increased 3% to $410 million, largely driven by strong orders in our environmental solutions business. Book to bill for Printing & Identification was 0.98 while Industrials was 1.
Overall book to bill was 0.99. Now on Slide 8. Fluids posted another solid quarter where sales increased 12% to $346 million and earnings of $63 million were up 7%. Revenue was driven by organic growth of 2% and acquisition growth of 9%.
As previously discussed, our organic growth rate moderated to 2% in the quarter, and now stands at 7% for the first half. This result is tracking well against our full year target. Segment margin was 18.2%, a decrease of 70 basis points from the prior year.
Adjusting for recent acquisitions, our core business continues to perform extremely well, with margin of about 20%. We expect overall segment margin to remain in the high teens for the balance of the year, continuing to reflect the impact of recent acquisitions.
Bookings were $375 million, an increase of 26% driven by strong project related order activity in the plastics and petrochemical markets, some of which will ship in 2015. Book to bill was 1.08. Now let’s turn to Slide 9.
Refrigeration and food equipment generated revenue of $522 million, up 1% over the prior year and earning increased 3% to $85 million. Strong revenue performance in food equipment was partially offset by softer Latin American refrigeration markets and the impact related to the completion of the transition to our new Atlanta manufacturing center.
We entered the second half with a strong refrigeration backlog, up 16% over the prior year and expect strong shipments in the third quarter. Operating margin increased 40 basis points to 16.3%. This result primarily reflects productivity gains and a favorable product mix.
Bookings were strong at $543 million, an increase of 5%, principally reflecting strong demand for refrigeration products. Book to bill was 1.04. Now moving to the overview on Slide 10. Second quarter net interest expense was $32 million, up $2 million from last year and in line with expectations.
Corporate expense decreased $6 million to $29 million as expected and generally consistent with Q1. Our second quarter tax rate was 30.8%. Capital expenditures were $44 million in the quarter. Lastly, we repurchased 290,000 shares for $25 million in the quarter. Now moving to Slide 11 which shows our full year guidance.
We expect 2014 organic revenue growth to be around 4% at the high end of our previous range. We expect energy to be roughly 5%, the high end of the prior range driven by strong North American market dynamics.
Engineered Systems organic revenue was forecast to be up one point to 4% to 5% based on their strong Printing and Identification business and improved U.S Industrial activity.
Refrigeration and food equipment is anticipated to have approximately 1% to 2% organic growth, reflecting a one point reduction from our prior forecast, primarily driven by a weaker Latin America. Our fluids organic revenue forecast remains unchanged. Completed acquisitions will add 3%.
In total we expect full year revenue growth to be near the high end of our 6% to 7% range. Segment margin is still expected to be around 18%. Corporate expense is forecasted at $125 million. Interest expense remains at $133 million. Our full year tax rate is estimated to be about 31%.
CapEx should be approximately 2.5% of revenue and we expect our 2014 free cash flow will be approximately 11% of revenue. Now turning to the bridge on Slide 12. We have raised the bottom and top end of our EPS range to reflect our current view. We now see volume pricing mix contributing $0.26 to $0.33.
Productivity will add $0.17 to $0.21 while investment and compensation will have an $0.18 to $0.22 impact. All other categories are either unchanged or reflect minor revisions. In total we now expect 2014 EPS to be $4.75 to $4.85. This represents 11% growth at the mid-point. With that, I’ll turn the call back over to Bob for some final thoughts. .
Thanks Brad. Overall, I am pleased with our first half performance. We delivered solid revenue and earnings growth and also saw strong order activity. We are executing well and are well positioned for continued success driven by strong dynamics in each segment. Within energy we expect a strong growth in North American well activity to continue.
This growth, combined with our global initiatives, including the potential for additional Australian project business, positions us very well into the second half of the year and beyond.
In Engineered Systems, growing global applications for our printing and identification technology, including the emerging textile market provides higher growth opportunities. Within our industrial markets, our customers’ desire for productivity solutions, offer significant growth prospects.
Within Fluids, increasing regulations regarding vapor recovery and the safe transport of chemicals and fuels affords a strong business climate for our fluid transfer businesses. Additionally our pumps business is benefiting from strong plastics and petrol chemical markets.
Finally, in refrigeration and food equipment, we continue to focus on the ongoing needs of our customers for productivity and energy efficient solutions. In addition, we’re continually working to help them drive same store sales growth through our innovative merchandising systems.
We expect to outperform market again, driven by market leading products and solutions. In all, the future remains extremely bright for Dover and I am very confident about our positioning and long-term growth prospects. In closing, I’d like to thank our entire Dover team for their continued focus on serving our customers and driving results.
With that Paul, let’s take a few questions..
Thanks. Before we put on the first question Laurie, I just want to remind everyone if you can limit yourself to one question with a follow up, we’ll be better able to serve all the analysts out there.
So Laurie, what is our first question?.
(Operator instructions) Your first question comes from the line of Andrew Obin of Banc of America Merrill Lynch..
Sure. So question on the quarter. As I think about margin expansion opportunities for the year, energy bookings were nice. Fluids were really nice. You actually showed margin expansion in energy, and if you exclude M&A, fluids were very strong.
So, what's the opportunity, and why are we still being conservative? What's the big headwind that we should worry about in the second half?.
Good morning Andrew..
Morning..
Your specific question is what should we be concerned about with respect to productivity and margins in the second half or was it …?.
Yeah. I guess the question is, if I look at the strong book-to-bill, if I look at the fact that (inaudible) -- for the second half of the year on margin. .
I think the guidance or the comment that Brad shared with you that margins for the year we still look to them to be about 18%, I actually feel pretty darn comfortable with that about 18% number.
That doesn’t – I’m not going to sit here and give you a specific guidance that it’s 17.9% or 18.1%, but right now we feel pretty darn comfortable with the 18% number. The growth rate in the second half, organic growth rate for Dover overall should be up a bit versus the first half.
We are seeing some pretty positive dynamics across the board in all four segments. Goodness, we could revisit each one of the segments and talk about it, but I think we sit here and look at the second half and feel like it’s strongly within our grasp to just execute..
I guess what I would add, Andrew, is that our first half margin performance into the second half sequentially is going to improve for sure. As we talked about first quarter, we go back to the first quarter, acquisitions impact is about 70 basis points. This quarter it’s about 40 basis points.
That starts to diminish as we continue to integrate and bring them on board through the second half where the full year impact is around 30 to 40 basis points. You will see that margin rate first half to second half sequentially improve for us..
And just a follow up question on acquisition pipeline development, you started out the year talking about $500 million to $1 billion. Then you dialed it down. Now you guys are talking about M&A opportunities as well, but what’s the reasonable outcome for the year right now and I guess any color beyond that? Thank you..
Yeah, you’re right. I opened the year with a little bit of guidance saying $500 million to $1billion in acquisition spend. I think it was -- by the time we got into April and May, I was sharing with you that that number could be closer to $500 million than a $1billion.
Without sounding too positive, I would tell you today on an update that it's probably closer to the midpoint. Yeah, it's always difficult to predict an acquisition until we actually close on it. The profile hasn’t changed any from what I've shared with the analysts and investors earlier. There’s nothing that I would label as large in our pipeline.
Anything from as small as $10 million to $400 million, that’s there we are. .
Your next question comes in the line of Scott Davis of Barclays..
Just wanted to get a little granularity on Printing and ID. That was a business that was a bit of a soft spot for you a while and now you've bounced back the last couple quarters. It looks like you gained a fair amount of share this quarter based on at least what your competitor -- main competitor is putting out there.
How is -- give us a little sense of the sustainability of this. When I think about it, you're in a share loss position. You came back with some new product. You gained share back.
Is this a one-time step-up where you're kind of back in the game, if you will, and then that more normalizes with industry growth or is this something bigger than that?.
Scott, let me correct a couple of statements first. .
Please do..
I actually think we’ve been back on the game to quote your phrase, for more than just a couple of quarters. I think you can go back over, perhaps the last – at least the last four or five quarters and see the building momentum within that business. They’ve had -- Markem Imaje had another great second quarter.
Actually I think they had a great first half. I think they’ve had a very, very strong last four quarters.
Organic growth for MI in the second quarter, Brad was 8%?.
8%.
Okay. It was fairly broad-based. I would point and I think Brad commented on this with respect to refrigeration and I commented on it in my opening comments. All of Latin and South America has been rather soft here in the second quarter across the board for Dover. That didn’t escape MI, Markem Imaje as well.
But when you look at our activity in the U.S, our activity in Europe and in Asia, the team is doing quite well. I think it's sustainable. We’re showing very strong positive organic growth for the second half of the year. We’ve got new products being launched in the second half of the year as well. .
Okay. Fair enough. So, this is a little bit of a -- my follow-up is a little bit of a political hot cake. When I think about companies that, like yours, that have relatively high tax rates it's not crazy, but 30% plus is higher than the average in the group..
Yeah..
Would you consider an inversion? Has there been any thought of doing something internationally? Because there are some potential targets out there, of course, that could potentially make sense for you guys also and the added benefit of tax would certainly make it more attractive..
I don’t want to say never ever but it clearly isn’t in our planning or thinking as we sit here today. .
Okay, I'll pass it on. Thank you..
Scott, back to the tax rate, we’ve said that we look at our taxes because of our geo mix. As we become more global, we do see a path to below 30%. And that’s where we currently still believe we can get to. We’ll continue to see the benefits of for instance the Markem Imaje growth is very global and it has a lower tax rate associated with it.
So I do think we’ll get below 30%. I think we said that by 2016. .
And a fair amount of our acquisition spend over the last 18 months has been outside of the U.S. I think seven of our last 10 or 11 acquisitions have been outside of the US. .
Scott Davis – Barclays Capital:.
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Technically, no..
Okay. That’s all I was really asking. So, thank you guys. Good luck. Congrats on a good quarter..
Your next question comes from the line of Jeff Sprague of Vertical Research Partners..
I was wondering if we could just talk about energy margins a little bit more. They were up year over year, but last year was depressed. I actually would have thought with a surge in drilling and production in the U.S that would be very mix positive and your margins are actually down sequentially on flat slightly up revenues sequentially.
So is there something with mixer investment or something else going on in there?.
I don’t think there is anything different going on. We continue and I think I’ve commented on this at least once this year -- we continue to make our investments for supporting our geo mix, growth especially in the Middle East and in Southeast Asia and in Australia.
We are at a low point rate now in our Australia activity with respect to energy Low point in sales ....
Low point in sales and high -- and the cost that’s still there for the next ....
Yeah, the cost is there. So, that has a little bit of weight on the margins. But Jeff, I would tell you that we ended last year and energy with margins of 24.8%. And I think my comment a couple of times last year is I happened to like that number and I believe that’s about where we are going to end 2014, is about 24.8%..
Would that imply Bob, that there actually is upside in that number and you’re spending it away because at this margin level you’d obviously prefer growth over margin? Or do you think you are at some natural ceiling in that business?.
We are -- I would tell you that -- again I’m going to repeat myself with respect to the investment that we are making and our geo mix initiatives as well as the near term carrying cost of what we are doing in Australia, has some pressure on the margins. Some of it also has to do with some of the recent acquisitions Jeff.
Every acquisition we make in energy doesn’t come out of the gate with 25% operating margins. .
Right, and then just finally move on. Someone else this morning indicated a broad-based “fade” in activity in Europe in June.
Did you guys see anything like that?.
Broad-based what? Fade ....
Fade. .
Fade of bookings or activity. .
No. I would say our activity in Europe was again pretty solid across the board for Dover businesses. Generally speaking June was the best month for us in the quarter. .
Your next question comes from the line of John Inch of Deutsche Bank..
Bob and Brad, so I guess Domino called out -- I know you sort of indirectly referenced this, but, they did call out difficult product ID in Asia.
What do you -- what's your sense of market conditions in Dover's performance and product ID in Asia? And, maybe you could talk a little bit about what your -- are you looking to do M&A there, or build the presence?.
Specific to product ID?.
Yes, please..
Was that the question? We continue to see growth in Asia both organic as well as what we are reporting as acquisition activity, John. The recent acquisition we made earlier in the year of MS Printing does -- they do ship a fair amount of their systems into Asia.
That said I will tell that the growth rate, the activity for Markem Imaje, specific to Markem Imaje, the activity in China specifically was not as strong in the second quarter as perhaps what we’ve seen over the last two or three quarters. But I think I have signaled that a couple of times here in the last two or three months. .
No, I think you have.
Any of your other businesses, Bob, inflected in China, either more positively of more negatively that you saw in the quarter?.
Well, when you look at the number for Dover for China, to get a real sense of that, you’ve sort of got to pull out the lumpiness that we do experience in our food equipment business specific to Belvac and their project shipments into China. But I think all in for China, what was our growth rate? It was mid-teens in China for the second quarter..
Which included a large Belvac..
But it did include a Belvac shipment..
So I think adjusting for that John ….
I’m not -- let me give you a highlight. I’m not concerned about our activity in China. I know there’s been a little bit of a slowdown that we’ve all been experiencing in China over the past couple or three quarters. I don’t label it as a problem.
It has been a little bit -- for the core activities, it’s been a little bit slower in the second quarter than perhaps it was a year ago. But our businesses are doing quite well in China..
Yeah. And then my follow up, Bob, it really is to the energy business you’re putting investment spending into international artificial lift market. Middle East is a source of growth.
My question is this turmoil that we’ve seen in the Middle East, has that in any way impacted sort of what your customers have said with respect to project disbursements and spending? I realize your business is not centered in Iraq or Syria or any of those places.
But I’m just wondering about the implications of what you’re hearing and does it cause you perhaps to sort of think about modifying your pace of investment spending, either more forcefully or less forcefully in the region for the energy businesses?.
Okay, so let me respond to activity. Your first part was activity in the Middle East. Our activity there continues to expand. Perhaps, I don’t have this exact comparison, but my sense is John that our activity in the Middle East is probably at pace or a bit ahead of pace of our investment rate of change in the Middle East.
The second part of your question was with respect to customers.
It’s interesting that when you’ve read the headlines over the last three or four months with respect to some of the larger oil and gas customers pulling back from either the Middle East or maybe some larger projects around the world and a little bit more focus per se on the opportunities in North America, I think we’ve seen that.
On one data point we’d seen that with respect to the increased rig count and well activity here this year. But that whole backing CapEx, I will tell you I happen to think it’s a little bit of the phenomenon behind the slowness or the deferrals we’ve seen in our bearings and compression business activity. .
The next question comes to the line of Nigel Coe of Morgan Stanley..
So just wanted to – Brad I think you called out that obviously you have pretty good strength in the fluids backlog, but some of that backlog converts in ‘15.
So I’m just wondering are we seeing a change in mix between maybe some large projects coming through there and perhaps you can give some color on that, Brad?.
I know -- this is Bob and I know that part of our backlog in fluids is dated into ‘15 and it’s really related to a couple of our more recent acquisitions, the MOG acquisition that was completed about two years ago and then the Finder acquisition that was completed last fall, which are more systems type of businesses rather than distributed product.
Is there a change in our profile? Other than that I’m going to say no.
The fluid for the segment organic growth in the second quarter was obviously less than it was in the first quarter and I think when we reported first quarter results we clearly indicated that we had some projects that were shipped in the first quarter, that as we opened the year we actually had them planed for shipment in early second quarter and at customer request we pulled them forward.
Organic growth for fluids in the first half was 7%, I think we are going to be real close to that organic growth rate, maybe a little bit less in the second half. We will always see a little bit of the lumpiness due to the project nature of the business model we have at MOG and at Finder.
Both businesses are doing well with the customers and both businesses are growing. .
Great. And then, just turning back to the M&A backlog, you started the year with that range, and then you sort of went below that range and now you're moving back to the midpoint.
I'm just wondering, what's happened in the last two months? Are we starting to see more willing sellers coming through, or am I just overthinking this?.
I think you may be overthinking it, Nigel. We can define a pipeline and Brad and I, internally we review this weekly what our status is and status changes. I would tell you that we are moving forward on an acquisition opportunity today that three months ago I would have told you it’s probably not going to happen until 2015. It’s not a new target.
It’s not something that represents a change in our attitude or our pricing discipline. The position with the target changed a bit. So just don’t over think that. I still feel comfortable with the range that I opened the year with, the $500 million to $1 billion. And as I said earlier in the call, maybe today we are closer to that midpoint in that range.
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Okay. That's very helpful, Bob. And, just quickly, just to clarify a certain point.
Any ambition to move outside of your defined growth areas? So obviously, fluids and NG, refrigeration, PID have been sort of your sort of growth avenues, but any desire to maybe add one or two other growth avenues going forward, maybe Greenfield?.
I don’t think you are going to see us do that in the next year or two, Nigel.
I think what you do see and we’ve been -- I think we’ve been illustrating this for the past couple of years now and these primary growth spaces that we’ve focused on we continue to push into new adjacencies and to grow our market space and to grow and increase the size of the available market that we can play in.
And we think we can have plenty of opportunity to continue to do that for the next couple of years. .
(Operator Instruction) Your next question comes from the line of Steve Winoker of Sanford Bernstein. .
First question is how much of the bookings number is acquired bookings from acquisitions of the 11%?.
Yeah. I don’t have dollar number. I can give you a data point here though. On the second quarter bookings organic growth, the total growth of 11% of that organic was 7.5%..
Okay, great. And, on the guidance, as I sort of look at what you changed and walked through, it seems like you're looking at something like 33% incremental on the additional volume growth. And then, it looks like investment and compensation improved by $0.01, and productivity tightened up a little bit as well.
Am I reading that correctly in terms of how you're thinking about it? And then, on the investment comp side, what was improving and on the productivity side, what changed?.
There’s a lot in that question. .
I'm only allowed two..
The second quarter conversion rate ex acquisition was very, very positive, no doubt about it coming off of first quarter which was reasonably good as well. We are still thinking that the full year conversion on all the volume is in that range of 27% to 28%.
So yeah, the incremental is a little bit -- the mix gives you a little bit of stronger conversion. As it relates to changes in the bridge, again I think we’re just typing up a little bit on the volume and the mix.
As far as productivity we continue to put considerable focus in this area in order to continue to drive performance and be able to make the investments we’re looking to make. I’d say sitting here today we feel very good about the progress we’ve made on productivity.
We’ve got a lot of projects underway that will drive incremental gross productivity for us that’s slightly better than we anticipated early in the year. As far as compensation, I’d say that’s just normal activity or true ups of where we think we’ll be for the year in the compensation..
Nothing unusual?.
Nothing unusual..
Okay, great. One follow-up on the productivity side, though.
The refrigeration plant move, did you run those plants in parallel? Or, did you do a hard turnover that drove the revenue decline?.
There was a little overlap and the revenue declined. As we said the decline is just a deferral to the third quarter. We didn’t lose any customer orders or anything in our bookings or backlog. It’s in the backlog in essence. It’s about $10 million or so of sales that will move into the third quarter.
We had a little overlap of cost both in Houston and both in Atlanta and I’d say that overlap of cost would cost us about a penny in the quarter in total for both of those facilities. But that will diminish now or go to zero in the third quarter..
Your next question comes from the line of Jamie Sullivan of RBC Capital..
Most of my questions have been answered, but maybe just one on the industrial business. You've had some decent organic growth there the last couple of quarters.
Maybe you could just talk about where you're seeing the strength in ESG, VSG and maybe how you see the sustainability of those end markets?.
Okay. You’re right. As we commented in the earlier part of the call in the industrial platform, we saw some outstanding activity. We’ve seen it for the year. Actually I would say that this is not new. We’ve been – these two business areas have been performing quite well over the last I would say at least 12 months, if not 18 months.
And we see it continuing in the second half and these two businesses are very well positioned in their marketplace and with their customers. We see that being quite sustainable. .
Okay, thanks.
And then, just a follow-up on the free cash flow targets, your confidence there given where you are in the first half, should we just look at it as a normal seasonal pattern, or is there an additional weighting this year toward the second half versus normal?.
I’d say it’s mostly the same sessional pattern. But if I look at the second quarter the performance was okay, maybe a little bit lower than what we were looking for.
But as I said earlier, June was our best month in the quarter and the teams have really – we’re setup nicely now in going into the third quarter so there’s a little bit of carry of working capital. So, on the edges maybe the second half is a little bit higher than we would have expected to going into the year. .
But we still feel very comfortable with the 11% target..
Our next question comes from the line of Steve Tusa of JPMorgan..
On the refrigeration business, even with the deferral, can you just maybe talk about -- or if you ex out the deferral, could you just talk about what you're seeing from just maybe segment the customers from the Big-Box guys to the more local customers on that front?.
Okay. This question -- my answer is going to be more specific and I think you question is to Hill Phoenix.
First of all on the big customers, without sharing information on an individual customer, I’ll say the big two that we’ve talked about over the last couple of years, Wal-Mart and Target, we’ve got a little bit of headwind that we’re dealing with this year. Most of that has actually occurred in the first half.
When you look beyond the big two and look at the regional retailers, that activity has been up for us. We’ve seen it in all parts of the business, be it the cases, be it the doors as well as our refrigeration systems. .
Got you. And then, just a follow-up --..
Steve, I could give you another color point on that. If we have any concern right now relative to where we were coming into the year, I'm going to bring you back to my comments earlier about the softness we’ve seen in Latin America and South America.
I don’t know the exact number, but I want to say it was probably somewhere in the $11 million $15 million range for the first half. Revenue expectations in Latin America and South America were that much softer than we anticipated.
And sitting here today, I will tell you that we aren’t planning for a recovery or a rebound in Latin America or South America in 2014. That recovery is not in our numbers. .
And that's core Hill Phoenix as opposed to Anthony?.
That one is probably – That’s Hill Phoenix and Anthony and our after-market services all together. .
But it's not entirely just that business sponsor Bob is referring. That’s the total company, but I would say Hill Phoenix is probably a bigger part of that softness that we’re talking about. .
Right. And then, just a quick update, so your business is down a little bit in the first half. I guess the margin is down a tad there as well for the whole segment.
What is -- how is Anthony doing? And, what's the -- just remind me of the revenue base Anthony will represent in 2014?.
Oh my goodness. Let’s see. We track Anthony now as the business unit on doors only. All of the after-market activity of Hill Phoenix and Anthony has been combined into a separate business unit that is now reported under Hill Phoenix. So on doors only, what's the revenue base? $250 million just on doors and – I call it glass and door frames. .
Okay, and that compares to what in 2013?.
It's up mid-single digits..
Okay..
Maybe a little higher than that, yeah..
And the margins flattish for the segment?.
Okay, that’s something – you’re going to get some detail now that we don’t release, but we’re happy with the margins. .
Our next question comes in the line of Julian Mitchell of Credit Suisse..
Hi, thanks. I just wanted to follow up on refrigeration again because I guess you took down the organic growth guide a little bit for the year, but you had had a very good book-to-bill in Hill Phoenix in Q1. I think you said it was 1.3. And, the plant deferral stuff you'll get back.
So, is it really just Latin America suddenly got very bad in the last couple of months in that business? Because you did have a very -- as you said, you did have a very good book-to-bill in three months ago. .
The book-to-bill for Hill Phoenix and for – especially for Hill Phoenix was very strong in the first quarter as well as it was in the second quarter. It's interesting. Again for Hill Phoenix, because of the way -- I call it the seasonal period builds and runs. That seasonal period being the second and the third quarter combined.
Actually you get a better picture when you look at the period rather than the quarters because projects can move from quarter to quarter. If you were to look at the 2014 seasonal period, second and third quarter, versus last year’s seasonal period, I think Hill Phoenix will be up two to three points organically. .
Got it. And then, just on --.
We are expressing some caution around Latin America and South America. And I think that’s what you really see reflected in a little bit of the down take on the organic growth rate for the second. .
Thank you. And then, I think just on capital allocation. The last earnings call you talked about maybe giving a buyback update during Q2. I think in the quarter you spent about $25 million on the buyback.
Is that a sort of a run rate we should expect, given you sound pretty positive about the M&A pipeline?.
I think you could expect to see that run rate continue in the second half..
Your next question comes from the line of Dean Dray of Citi Research. .
I might have missed it, but did you give a specific percentage amount you thought the North American rig count could be trending up for the year? We have been tracking -- it was interesting. In the beginning of the year, it was flattish and then last update, maybe 2%. It sounds like you're a bit more encouraged here.
So, do you have a number for that?.
Yeah. We look at -- based upon the first actuals and the second half forecast we see the rig count in the US being up about 6% over 2013..
That's quite a jump.
Are you expecting thy share gains in that higher volume or just holding steady there?.
I’m not going to speak to share gains; I would tell you that -- to get a really good feel I probably need to separate some business activity for you, Dean. I’ve commented about our project business in Australia. If you were to separate just – I’m going to give you some data just on artificial lift, not the segment, but just on artificial lift.
If you were to pull out the Australia project business and look at artificial lift without it, the revenue growth in the second quarter was about 8%. Bookings were up about 16%. If you were to look at – again doing it for the full year that’s embedded in our revised guidance, you would see artificial lift up 15% or 16%.
And bookings up – I’m sorry that would be the bookings about 15% or 16% increase in bookings and low double digit growth in revenue in artificial lift..
That's for the full year?.
That’s for the full year. Activity in North America is pretty strong, Dean taking Australia out..
Yeah. That certainly is reflected there.
Then, just a last quick one for me, and it's a blast from the past, but for Brad, are there any stranded costs that will be addressed in Knowles, or is that chapter completely closed?.
I think that chapter has been pretty well complete. We continued to work on some smaller areas. But as we said in the first quarter I think we brought our corporate cost down quite nicely. We continue to keep the cost associated with the regional centers in the sense of where we’re going to try to grow globally or we are growing globally.
I think that chapter is really closed at this point..
Your next question comes from the line of Charley Brady of BMO Capital Markets..
Just a quick one on refrigeration. You had touched on a few points of it, but I guess as I look to the -- you answered the question of the revenue outlook for the second half given some moving parts here. But, if I look to the margin, we don't have a headwind from Target and Wal-Mart. We certainly have a great reduction in that.
We've got a catch-up from the shipments from 2Q into 3Q. I guess I look out to the margin expectation in the second half, and I guess particularly into Q3, it sounds as though that ought to get a decent tick-up in some of the margin there.
But, I guess what I'm really trying to square that up is, how much of a margin headwind does Latin America really give you to offset these other moving parts that otherwise would indicate pretty good margin performance in 2H?.
Okay. So look, there’s more to the segment than just refrigeration. We’ve got a sector we call food equipment.
And it’s interesting in the first half of 2014, I think organic growth for food equipment was slightly positive, like two points, even with the headwind we had it in Latin America and here is a point where our position, where we actually see a little bit of a headwind in Eastern Europe and in Russia, but it’s minor.
But for this sector, for this little group it’s measurable. The second half of the year we see organic growth in our refrigeration business two or three points, but because of the project activity that I mentioned earlier around Belvac, the second half in food equipment could actually be negative organic growth slightly.
And here now is the point on your margins. The food equipment group has higher margins that the refrigeration group does. So what you see in the second half is some increased volume, but you don’t see the margin increments flowing through and it’s all due to product mix between the two sectors..
Thank you. That concludes our question-and-answer period. I would now like to turn the call back over to Mr. Goldberg for closing remarks..
We just want to thank everybody again for joining our conference call today and we look forward to speaking to you next quarter to discuss third quarter results. Have a good day. Thank you..
Thank you. That concludes today’s second quarter 2014 Dover Corporation earnings conference call. You may now disconnect your lines and `have a wonderful day..