Good morning and welcome to the AutoZone Conference Call. Your lines have been placed in listen-only until the question-and-answer session of the conference. Please be advised, today’s call is being recorded. If you have any objections, please disconnect at this time. This conference call will discuss AutoZone’s second quarter earnings release.
Bill Rhodes, the Company’s Chairman, President and CEO, will be making a short presentation and highlights of the quarter. The conference call will end promptly at 10:00 a.m. Central Time, 11:00 a.m. Eastern Time. Before Mr. Rhodes begins, the Company has requested that you listen to the following statement regarding your forward-looking statements.
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Forward-looking statements speak only as of the date made. Except as required by applicable law, we undertake no obligation to update publicly any forward-looking statements, whether as result of new information, future events or otherwise. Actual results may materially differ from anticipated results. Now, I’d like to turn the call over to Mr.
Bill Rhodes. Please go ahead..
Exceptional service; fast deliveries; high quality parts and products; trustworthy advice; and flawless execution across the enterprise. We continue to identify and remove all redundant or non-customer-facing activities for our store AutoZoners. By removing or streamlining these tasks, we know we can improve our service levels of customer service.
This will continue to be a major focus for us for the balance of the year.
Along with improving local parts availability and assortment, we continue to manage this organization to provide exceptional service for our customers, provide our AutoZoners with a great place to work with substantial opportunities for advancement and work to ensure we provide strong returns for our shareholders.
In summary, while we were not pleased with our top line performance, we were pleased with our operating performance and remain encouraged with our industry strength in both DIY and DIFM, and our prospects for the remainder of the fiscal year.
We believe macro factors such as relatively low gas prices and increasing miles driven remain largely in our favor. We remain committed to growing our market share in both, DIY and commercial. Now, let me provide more detail on what we accomplished during the quarter.
For the quarter, we opened 25 new stores in the United States and our commercial business opened 25 net new programs. Currently, 85% of our domestic stores have a commercial program and the vast majority of our international stores have a commercial program.
During the quarter, we continued to expand our international footprint, opening two new stores in Mexico and one in Brazil. We should once again highlight another strong performance in return on invested capital as we were able to finish our second quarter at 35.3%.
We continue to be pleased with this metric as it is one of the best in all of hardlines retailing. However, our primary focus has been and continues to be that we ensure every incremental dollar of capital that we deploy in this business, provides an acceptable return well in excess of our cost of capital.
It’s important to reinforce that we will always maintain our diligence regarding capital stewardship as the capital we invest is our investors’ capital.
Before I pass the discussion over to Bill Giles to talk about our financial results, I’d like to again thank our AutoZoners for their efforts to deliver great service to our customers and solid financial results for the second fiscal quarter of 2020. Now, I’ll turn it over to Bill Giles.
Bill?.
Thanks, Bill. Good morning, everyone. To start this morning, let me take a few minutes to talk more specifically about our domestic retail, commercial and international results. For the quarter, total auto part sales, which includes our domestic, Mexico and Brazil stores, increased 2.6%.
For the trailing four quarters ended, total sales per AutoZone store were $1,867,000, which is up from an average of $1,800,000 at Q2 ending last year. Total commercial sales increased 8.2% in the quarter. Commercial represented 23% of our total sales and grew approximately $42 million over last year’s Q2.
Our average weekly sales per program were $9,400, up 5% on a per program basis versus $9,000 per week last year. As Bill mentioned earlier, we expect our sales per program growth to do better in Q3 than this past quarter as we began our summer selling season. We now have our commercial program in 4,942 stores or 85% of our domestic stores.
We remain committed to gaining market share with our commercial customers and we are encouraged by the initiatives we have in place and feel we can further grow sales and market share. Our Mexico stores continued to perform well. We opened two new stores during the second quarter, ending the quarter with 608 stores.
We remain committed to open stores for many years to come. And regarding Brazil, we now operate 38 stores. Our performance continues to improve and we remain optimistic about the long-term future of this market. This market has the potential to be much larger than Mexico.
So, while challenging and currently a drag on earnings, the potential size of the market is significant. Gross margin for the quarter was 54.3% of sales, up 28 basis points versus last year’s second quarter. The increase in gross margin was primarily driven by supply chain leverage.
While our accelerated pace of commercial growth has weighed on our overall gross margin, we continue to see opportunities to lower our costs through sourcing. I do want to stress, we remain committed to taking cost out of our business where appropriate.
Our primary focus has always been growing absolute gross profit dollars in our total auto parts segment and we have been pleased with our growth driven by the acceleration we have experienced in commercial. SG&A for the quarter was 38.1% of sales, deleveraging 37 basis points to last year’s second quarter.
This was lower than our first quarter’s deleverage of 65 basis points. In fact, our SG&A grew 3.6% over last year’s second quarter. As we lap salary increases initiated in last year’s first quarter and as our sales were challenged, our team aggressively managed costs and we returned to a more historically run rate.
SG&A will remain something we manage in accordance with sales volumes. As sales pick up, we would expect the spend rate to increase. The deleverage for this quarter was primarily driven by our planned and ongoing domestic store payroll investments, which negatively impacted operating expenses. EBIT for the quarter was $407.9 million.
Our EBIT margin was 16.2%. Interest expense for the quarter was $44.3 million, up 7.2% from Q2 a year ago, but in line with our expectations. We are planning interest at $44.7 million for the third quarter of fiscal 2020 versus $43.2 million last year.
Our higher forecast than last year is driven mainly by the associated with the bond issuance we had in April of 2019. Debt outstanding at the end of the quarter was $5,451 million or $340 million above last year’s Q2 ending balance of $5,111 million. Our adjusted debt level metric finished the quarter at 2.6 times EBITDAR.
While in any given quarter we may increase or decrease our leverage metric based on management’s opinion regarding debt and equity market conditions, we remain committed to both our investment grade rating and our capital allocation strategy, and share repurchases are an important element of that strategy.
For the quarter, our tax rate was 17.7% versus 17.8% in last year’s second quarter. This quarter’s rate benefited 412 basis points from stock options exercised while last year it benefited 389 basis points. Stock option exercises aren’t predictable and as such, they will affect our tax rate, and ultimately our net income and EPS.
For the third quarter of FY 2020, we suggest investors model us at approximately 23% before any assumption on credits due to stock option exercises. Because we cannot effectively predict this activity, we remain committed to reporting the stock option impact on the tax rate.
Net income for the quarter was $299.2 million, up 1.6% versus last year’s second quarter. Our diluted share count of 24.2 million was down 5.8% from last year’s second quarter. The combination of these factors drove earnings per share for the quarter to $12.39, up 7.8% over the prior year’s second quarter.
Related to the cash flow statement for the second quarter, we generated $205 million of operating cash flow. Net fixed assets were up 4.8% versus last year.
Capital expenditures for the quarter totaled $89.2 million and reflected the additional expenditures required to open 28 net new stores this quarter, capital expenditures on existing stores, hub and megahub remodels or openings, work on development of new stores for upcoming quarters and information technology investments.
With the new stores opened, we finished this past quarter with 5,814 stores in the U.S., 608 stores in Mexico and 38 in Brazil for a total store count of 6,461. Depreciation totaled $90.7 million for the quarter versus last year’s second quarter expense of $83.8 million. This is generally in line with our recent quarter growth rates.
We repurchased $315 million of AutoZone stock in the quarter versus $350 million last year. At quarter end, we had $962 million remaining under our share buyback authorization and our leverage metric was 2.6 times. Again, I want to stress, we managed to appropriate credit ratings and not any one metric.
The metric we report is meant as a guide only as each rating agency has its own criteria. We continue to view our share repurchase program as an attractive capital deployment strategy. Next, I’d like to update you on our inventory levels.
In total, the Company’s inventory increased 7% over the same period last year, driven by new stores and increased product placement. Inventory per location was $713,000 versus $690,000 last year and $694,000 last quarter.
Net inventory, defined as merchandise inventories less accounts payable on a per location basis, was a negative $41,000 versus a negative $58,000 last year and a negative $71,000 last quarter. As a result, accounts payable as a percent of gross inventory finished the quarter at 105.7% versus last year’s Q2 of 108.5%.
Finally, as Bill previously mentioned, our continued disciplined capital management approach resulted in return on invested capital for the trailing four quarters of 35.3%. We have and will continue to make investments that we believe will generate returns that significantly exceed our cost of capital. Now, I’ll turn it back to Bill Rhodes..
Thank you, Bill. Clearly, our sales performance in Q2 was disappointing. We didn’t achieve our plans nor our aspirations. We always know Q2, our shortest, lowest sales season, will be volatile. And this year, due to a very mild winter, our performance suffered and suffered mightily in specific weather-sensitive categories and in particular markets.
As we analyze our performance in great detail, we are confident that the key driver this quarter was weather. As we cannot influence the weather and as we know weather impacts normalize over time, our goal is to ensure we understand the drivers of our business and then move on and focus on what we can control.
Most of our senior team has been in this business and with this Company for decades. And we have seen this in the past and are focused on delivering optimal performance in the short term in light of the sales environment. But, our real focus isn’t on any single quarters, but building our business for the long term.
We all have seen enough cycles to know them when we see them. As we have recited internally, we weren’t brilliant in the first quarter and lost our touch in the second. This too shall pass. With half fiscal 2020 behind us, we believe we continue to be very well positioned to grow sales and earnings for the remainder of the year.
Many are now looking at previous mild winters and trying to extrapolate them to the balance of the year, as are we.
But, there are always other key factors that impact our industry’s performance, what is the timing of tax refunds, what’s going to happen with summer weather patterns, where are we with the aging of the car park and sweet spots, and on and on and on. In the end, we believe our sales will strengthen from here.
And our focus remains on managing this business to the optimum profitability based on the current industry sales environment, which will run through normal marginal cycles from time to time. Our team did just that in the second quarter.
As we look to the balance of the year, we commit that we will manage this business well, and we will manage it for the long term. Our business model is amazingly consistent. We generate a healthy amount of cash flow each and every year, and this year will be no different.
Each year, we target to generate as much or more operating cash flow as the year before. And this year, we have the same target. Let me reiterate, we believe we are in good shape for the back half of the year. For the New Year, we must continue to execute consistently at a high level.
We understand we must adhere to living the pledge and doing what is right for our customers. We cannot take our eye off of execution. Success will be achieved with an attention to detail and exceptional execution.
For the remainder of the year, we have a lot of deliverables from our IT initiatives, and we will remain focused on simplifying our store AutoZoners’ workloads to reduce clutter and unnecessary task that given the way of making the customer experience better for both the DIY and the professional customer.
We remain focused on growing our DIY business and continuing to grow our commercial business well in excess of industry growth rates. We promise to remain committed to both, executing our strategies and getting better every single day.
I’d like to take this opportunity to again recognize and thank our team of talented, dedicated, passionate AutoZoners for what they do each and every day for our customers, which expands opportunities for AutoZoners, allows us to support the communities we serve and ultimately, rewards our shareholders.
Now, we’d like to open up the call for questions..
Thank you. [Operator Instructions] Our first question is from Michael Lasser from UBS. Your line is now open..
Good morning. This is Atul Maheswari on for Michael Lasser. Thanks a lot for taking our questions..
Good morning..
I know you’re expecting sales to accelerate over the remainder of the year, but can you provide some color on quarter-to-date trends? How much of sales improved compared to the minus 6% that you witnessed in the final two weeks of the quarter, and what’s really driven the improvement?.
Yes, sure. I appreciate the question. We have a longstanding practice. We release our earnings usually within two weeks and a couple of days of the end of the quarter. And we have a longstanding practice to not talk about such a short period of time.
As we evidence with the last two weeks of the quarter, our business can be incredibly volatile over short periods of time, and we don’t want anybody to try to extrapolate that good or bad for a 12-week quarter. So, we have longstanding practice to not talk about it.
What we do say is, the second quarter is certainly more volatile than the third quarter. As we are entering the third quarter, we anticipate tax refunds coming.
As I’m sure most of you have noticed, there was a significant amount of tax refund, $67 billion, that were issued last Wednesday that appears to be generally on track with where we were last year, and we’re excited to enter this very important selling season for us..
Thank you. That’s helpful. And then, just a quick one on the calendar shift drag.
When should we really expect this drag to reverse and become a benefit? Is that going to be in the third or the fourth quarter of this year?.
Yes. It’s - again, one of those things is very hard to tell. As we talked about what happened with the end of the quarter, that could have -- Q2 could have been a net positive or a net negative. In the end, it was a net negative, because of the way that weather hit at the very end of the season.
We anticipate we will get what’s happened in the first half of the year back in the second, but it’s going to depend somewhat on what happens around the beginning of the quarter and the ending of the quarters..
Our next question is from Simeon Gutman from Morgan Stanley. Your line is now open..
I wanted to ask you, Bill, first on I guess the timing of bounce back. I know you don’t comment to your last answer.
I guess, the question is, do we have to wait for weather or do you -- is that what, we have to wait for weather to normalize or no, it’s not about whether at this point, it’s about tax refunds, and just the timing of the calendar to see the business normalize?.
Yes. I think, you’re right, Simeon. I think it’s the latter. As we begin to move into the spring season, what dominates our performance is no longer extreme weather patterns. In the winter time, and a lot of people won’t look at what’s happening with average temperatures, which is an indicator.
But, what really matters to us in the winter time is when we get extreme cold for an extended period of time, three, four, five days. That puts a lot of pressure on failure parts. The other part that really matters to us is what’s happening with road conditions.
If we get a lot of snow and ice and freezing temperatures, that puts the road conditions in pretty bad shape, which puts more pressure on under car and brake systems. One of the things, as we enter this period of time, it’s more about the maintenance categories.
And I mentioned in my prepared remarks that a lot of times everybody wants to compare to what’s happened in the last three or four mild winters, and that’s absolutely right, and we’re doing the same thing. But there are other things that are happening in the environment.
One of the things that’s happened in some of the previous mild winters is we had a significant amount of our maintenance businesses that were pulled forward into Q2. You found not only was it not extreme cold temperatures but you had some very nice weekend weather and people did DIY jobs. We did not see that in Q2.
So we are anticipating as these tax refunds flow, as the weather improves that we should have more robust maintenance performance..
Great. My follow-up is on the commercial strategy. You’ve had great momentum.
Can you talk about beginning that the megahub strategy is in and then any incremental inventory investments you plan to make this year?.
So, we’ve now opened 39 megahubs. We’ve stated externally that we want to get to 70 to 90. We are very aggressively pursuing those at this point in time, very pleased with the continued performance of our megahubs, and think that they are a key contributor to commercial. They are also a contributor to retail, but very pleased with that progress..
Yes. And I would say, we’re probably in the fourth or fifth inning, I would say, on the megahubs and we’ll continue to roll out on the hub strategies as well. And to Bill’s point, we’ve been very pleased with the performance of both, the megahubs and the hubs, but in particular the megahubs both on DIY and on the commercial side of the business.
Now, at the same time, that does create a little bit more inventory in the system as we get more inventory out closer to the customer, but we believe long-term that’s the winning strategy..
Our next question is from Seth Sigman from Credit Suisse. Your line is now open..
Hey, guys. Good morning. I just wanted to follow up on a couple of those points. First just on the commercial side of the business. So, it sounds like the slowdown is really weather related and you’re planning for trends to reaccelerate.
Is there anything that you see that would suggest that you can’t get back to double-digit growth in the commercial business in the next quarter or so?.
I would say, no. I think that if we look back over the quarter and see our performance, some of that impacted by weather certainly geographically as we talked about on the DIY business with similar on the commercial side of the business as well. So, some of those more cold weather geographies underperformed considerably during the quarter.
So, we believe fairly confidently that we’ll get back to a more normalized double-digit growth rate as we head into Q3. So, fundamentally, we don’t believe that we see anything different in the business..
I think adding a little bit of that too. We also -- and we talked about it in our prepared remarks, our up and down the street business continues to perform very, very well. We did see more challenges with our more national account business as many of which are concentrated in the Northeast and Midwest. So, we’re encouraged by that as well..
Okay. Thanks for that. And then, obviously in the quarter, the margin trends were quite healthy despite the sales shortfall. Your prior commentary had suggested an acceleration in operating profit growth as you move through this year, I guess, getting back to at least low-single-digit EBIT growth.
Is that still a fair way to think about it? Anymore parameters around that would be helpful. Thank you..
Yes. I think, first of all, I think the organization did a great job of managing the way through a difficult quarter, being able to control SG&A leverage, gross margin and be able to drive EBIT growth of around 2%. And I believe last quarter, we said that we would expect to grow EBIT on a positive basis.
And yes, we do expect to get to that low-single-digit, mid-single-digit kind of growth rate on a long-term basis..
Our next question is from Bret Jordan from Jefferies. Your line is now open..
In your prepared remarks, you talked about market share gains.
Could you talk maybe DIY versus commercial? And I guess, regionally, did you outperform in any particular market more than other?.
Yes, Bret. Great question. I should have clarified that in the prepared remarks. We don’t have good visibility to market share gains and commercial. So, generally, we’re growing commercial at 8% and the market has grown by 4%. We’re pretty confident we’re gaining share.
My specific comments about growing share slightly are come up from a few different indications that we have on the DIY side of the business..
Okay, great. And then, I guess a question on inflation. I think, Bill Giles was talking about or maybe it was you, Bill Rhodes, about not a material net benefit for the year. And I guess, the supplier association and a lot of the peers have been talking about 2% to 3% inflation seen in the last 12 months.
Is it just that you haven’t elected to pass through the costs you’ve seen come out of China, or I guess, is there something different about you’re addressing inflation versus theirs?.
Yes. I can’t speak for theirs. We have certainly seen SKU-over-SKU year-over-year inflation. And the bigger change isn’t that we’ve seen major inflation, it’s generally that we’ve seen deflation. As you think about it, our parts come into the life cycle and they’re very short run until the costs are more expensive.
As the part become -- goes through the bell curve and becomes much more -- much higher volumes, our costs go down. And therefore, we have significant deflation as is shown in our LIFO -- major LIFO reserve that we’ve had forever. In the last 18 months or so, we have seen some inflation. We have been very careful about managing that inflation.
And as we said in our prepared remarks, if we had a 25% tariff, we didn’t go out and raise our price 25%. We went out and worked that in, in tranches so that we didn’t shock the customer. Over time, we think we’ve done a pretty good job of rolling those price increases in.
We’ve also worked with several of our partners on not pushing the full amount to the customer. There has been some changes in the RMB currency, and we’ve taken advantage of that. So, we’ve been very, I think, judicious about it. We don’t think we saw a big net benefit as costs go up. There is some tampering down of demand.
We don’t think we saw a major significant net benefit and therefore we don’t think we’ll see a major significant net deficit..
Our next question is from Seth Basham from Wedbush Securities. Your line is now open..
Thanks a lot and good morning. And my first question is just around the calendar shift.
I mean, are we seeing two quarters of a negative impact from calendar shift? When do you expect to get that back? Is that more of a third quarter or fiscal fourth quarter event?.
Yes. As Bill said, we’ll have to wait and see to see how the performance is at the end of each of those quarters. Our anticipation is, this is likely more back-end loaded in the second half of the year..
Fair enough. And then, secondly, as it relates to your gross margin, did you saw your supply chain leverage as your primary driver of improvement here.
Does that include lower costs you’re getting from sourcing or are you specifically talking about savings within your supply chain and distribution?.
That one was pretty much the savings within the supply chain and distribution on a year-over-year basis. We are continuing to try to lower our acquisition costs and believe that overall our margin remains relatively healthy. But for this specific quarter, we were able to leverage down supply chain just by lowering some costs during the quarter..
As a follow-up there, as we think about the impacts of tariff-driven inflation into your business over the last year, and what it means for your inventory balances and your gross margins in last quarters, have you been getting a benefit from that, or would you expect a headwind going forward into the back half of the calendar year?.
I think, some of the tariff costs are going to continue to work their way through the average cost of the inventory. And as Bill said, I think, the merchandising organization has done a nice job of being able to feather in the increases to commensurate with the cost increases that we are experiencing.
And our expectation is that we will continue to do that. It may be some pressure going forward, but our expectation is that we will be able to manage our way through that..
Our next question is from Michael Montani from Evercore ISI. Your line is now open. Michael Montani, you are maybe on mute..
Hello.
Can you hear me?.
Yes, we can..
Yes, we can..
Okay, great. Sorry about that.
I just wanted to follow up on the inflation front for a minute, if I could and see what kind of an impact did you see to same-store sales from inflation, in particular for this quarter? And then, on a related note what kind of success have you had at this point in getting rebate checks from tariff-related exemptions?.
Yes. Just to kind of go backwards first, we’re in that process, I think Bill called it out in the prepared remarks that we’ve gone through and made applications for some rebates relative to tariffs and we’ve had some success, but we have more things in the work. So we’ll see how it is. We don’t think it’ll be material, by the way.
But we think it will be certainly a help overall. I think on the inflation side of it, as we said, we will probably have inflation of 2-plus-percent on a year-over-year basis from a SKU to SKU basis. But at the same time, it’s very difficult to measure out what the demand impact is as some of the prices have raised a little bit.
So, I think that’s where we would say that we haven’t seen a material impact overall from the inflation relative to comp store sales, because it is kind of a blended number with the demand as well..
And if I could, just follow-up. One housekeeping thing was the CapEx and D&A outlook for this year -- for the full year. And then secondly, any initiatives that you all may have in the pipeline on the productivity front that could help offset some of those wage increases, whether that be automation in the DCs or potential outsourcing et cetera..
Yes. From a CapEx perspective, I think our expectation is around $600 million of CapEx for the year and I believe depreciation is around that $350 million number.
I would say overall from a CapEx investment perspective, obviously, first and foremost, we’re investing in our stores, we’re investing in the maintenance of our stores, continue to ensure that they look great. We’re investing in hubs and megahubs along the way. We also have a good -- a sizable investment in technology as well.
We continue to invest in technology, both to enhance our existing systems as well as to add new functionality in order to improve our customer experience both on the DIY and the commercial side of the business as well. So, those are the major projects that we kind of continue to work on..
Okay. Thanks.
And just the productivity side?.
On the productivity, we’re always working on different productivity initiatives. But, if you’re talking about are we changing the way we go to market in our supply chain by implementing a tremendous amount of new automation or those kind of things, at this point, we’re not. We’re constantly looking at the calculations of where the IRRs make sense.
As wage pressure goes up, it changes the economics and we’ll continue to look at it, but we don’t have anything to talk about significantly currently..
Our next question is from Zach Fadem from Wells Fargo. Your line is now open..
Hey, guys. First question on coronavirus. You touched on supply chain. Curious, if you have any thoughts on the potential impact to miles driven and how that could impact your business..
It’s a very interesting question. As you would expect, over the last month or so, we have been very-focused on the supply chain aspects of coronavirus. And in the last week or two, more and more focused on what’s happening here in the United States and ultimately, Mexico and Brazil.
We see no indications at this point in time of any demand destruction as a result of coronavirus. But just like we said with the supply chain, it’s an incredibly, incredibly fluid situation. I think, the next couple of weeks to a month are going to be critical to see what actually happens. We don’t have good insights into that..
Got it. And then, just bigger picture on the car park. Curious, if you could speak to where you think we’re at in terms of the sweet spot? How long do you believe the current tailwind can last? And whether it’s more of a benefit to your DIY or your commercial business? Thanks..
There’s a lot packed into that question. Yes, we haven’t been big on talking about the ramifications of the car park over the last 12 years. We all know that there was a significant divot in new car sales in 2009. And as those cars came into the “sweet spot’, there was a headwind for a while and now it looks like it’s turned into a tailwind.
I think it’s on the margin in both instances. What we like to see is steady state new vehicles coming on the road, $16 million, $17 million. The scrappage rate doesn’t appear to change much at all. And therefore, we just have a steady state of new cars.
I don’t think there’s anything in the next two or three or four years, that’s going to be radically different than what we’ve seen in the past..
Our next question is from Guru Wright with Daniel Imbro from Stephens Inc. Your line is now open..
Hey, guys. This is Andrew on for Daniel. I just got a quick question here. I was wondering, your commentary has sounded pretty upbeat on the second half.
What gives you this confidence and how could you weight that between Company-specific initiatives and improving demand outlook?.
Yes, terrific question. I think what gives us the confidence is that we’ve been here before. As I mentioned in our prepared remarks, most of our management team has been here for decades. We’ve seen times of strength; we’ve seen times of softness. We certainly saw softness in the second quarter.
As we’re looking at the second half of the year, we have concerns and we also have things that we’re very positive about. On the concern side, I mentioned earlier that the roads, particularly in the Midwest and the Northeast haven’t had the kind of difficult conditions that put stress on brake systems and under car systems.
That’s likely to be a bit of a headwind as we go through the second half of the year. That said, unlike some other previous winters, we didn’t see this significant pull forward of demand in those exact categories, which are heavily maintenance categories. So, we’re looking at where we are.
We absolutely are disappointed with the second quarter, but we don’t see anything that changed as a result of the second quarter other than those road conditions. And therefore, we’ve made zero changes in our plans for the second half of the year. Again, to us, we are disappointed. We hate a bad quarter.
But we’re not managing this business for quarter-to-quarter. We’re managing this business for long terms. And that’s the approach we’re going to continue to take and we’re very optimistic that just like we’ve been very successful over the last decades, we’re going to continue to be successful as we look forward..
I’m showing no further questions in the queue. I’d like to turn the call over back to Mr. Bill Rhodes for final comments. You may proceed..
Great. Thank you. Before we conclude the call, I’d just like to take a moment to reiterate that we believe our business model continues to be solid. We are excited about our growth prospects for the year. We do not take anything for granted as we understand our customers have alternatives.
We have an exciting plan that should help us succeed this fiscal year. But I want to stress that this is a marathon, not a sprint. As we continue to focus on the basics and focus on optimizing long-term shareholder value, we are confident AutoZone will continue to be successful. Thank you for participating in today’s call. And have a great day..
And that concludes today’s conference. Thank you all for your participation. You may now disconnect..