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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2019 - Q2
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Operator

Good morning. My name is Jack and I will be your conference operator today. At this time, I would like to welcome everyone to the Avantor Second Quarter Earnings Call. [Operator Instructions] Thank you. Helen O’Donnell, Investor Relations contact for Avantor, you may begin your conference..

Helen O’Donnell

Thank you and good morning everyone. Our speakers today are Michael Stubblefield, President and Chief Executive Officer and Tom Szlosek, Executive Vice President and Chief Financial Officer. The press release and a slide deck accompanying this call are available on our investor website at ir.avantorsciences.com.

A replay of this webcast will also be available on our website following this call. Following our prepared remarks, we will open up the line for questions.

I would like to note that we will be making some statements during the call that are forward-looking statements within the meaning of the federal securities laws, including statements regarding events or developments that we believe or anticipate may occur in the future.

These forward-looking statements are subject to a number of risks and uncertainties, including those set forth in our SEC filings. Actual results might differ materially from any forward-looking statements that we make today.

These forward-looking statements speak only as of the date that they are made and we do not assume any obligation to update whether as a result of new information, future events and developments or otherwise. This call will include a discussion of non-GAAP measures.

A reconciliation of these non-GAAP measures can be found at the back of the presentation. With that, I will now turn the call over to Michael..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Helen. Good morning, everyone. Welcome to Avantor’s first quarterly earnings call as a public company following the successful completion of our initial public offering in May. We are pleased to report strong second quarter results with outstanding organic growth, margin expansion and cash flow generation.

Before discussing the quarter in more detail, I would like to provide a brief overview of the business and Avantor’s customer-centric model. Avantor is among the most recognized and trusted global providers of products and services for the life sciences and advanced technology and applied materials industries.

Our customers rely on us in virtually every stage of the most important research, development, and production activities they perform and they value and trust our integrative approach. It is the basis for our enduring relationships. We believe that our customer-centric model differentiates us from other industry participants and suppliers.

One of Avantor’s greatest strengths comes from our global footprint that enables us to serve more than 240,000 customer locations, giving us extensive access to research labs and scientists in more than 180 countries.

With this access, we are able to position our comprehensive portfolio of products and solutions for a wide variety of customer workflows.

Importantly, as we engage scientists in early phase discovery work, we can customize solutions that often get specified into customer formulations, driving stickiness and recurring revenue as these platforms are commercialized. We extend our reach and further embed ourselves in our customers’ workflows through our robust service capabilities.

And our offering is underpinned by a world-class quality system and robust supply chain that enables us to meet the stringent requirements of an exacting customer base. This differentiated framework enables us to partner with our customers every step of the way as they bring critical life-saving therapies to patients around the world.

The value of our model is evident in our attractive growth, margin, and de-leveraging profile. We have a very diverse revenue base that spans a wide range of customer applications and end markets. When combined with the customized nature of our business, it makes for a very resilient model.

We are well-positioned for continued growth in the Americas and Europe and are realizing upside from outsized growth in Asia, the Middle East, and Africa, where our infrastructure and footprint continue to expand.

For example, during my recent trip to China, I was able to see firsthand the progress we are making on the construction of our new application and technology center that will open in Shanghai later this year.

Avantor offers a comprehensive portfolio that includes more than 6 million distinct products and services that enable us to contribute to some of the most demanding and challenging areas of science. Approximately half of our revenue comes from the Avantor-branded solutions and roughly 85% of our business is recurring.

We strategically serve four end markets that share similar characteristics, including high regulatory oversight and complex development processes. Our penetration of market leaders and startups alike is a proof point of our relevance and importance in the industries we serve.

We are well diversified, as no single end customer represents more than 4% of our net sales. With more than half of our revenue in biopharma and healthcare, we are well positioned to leverage the favorable macro trends in the life sciences space.

Our largest customer end market is biopharma, where industry dynamics remain favorable, especially for the large molecule space where we are well positioned to support our customers across a range of disease indications, including oncology, rheumatology, respiratory and neurodegeneration.

Given the breadth of our solution and our access to the critical phases of early stage development, we ultimately earn specifications that allow us to serve our customers’ critical workflows at production scale. This slide demonstrates the breadth and relevance of our solution for biopharma manufacturing.

Our solution spans the upstream fermentation processes that drive cell growth and protein expression, the downstream protein recovery and purification steps, as well as the final formulation processes.

Our solution is underpinned by our single-use sterile fluid transfer technologies that connect each of the unit operations, helping to minimize the risk of product contamination. Our penetration of market leaders is a proof point of our relevance and importance in this critical workflow.

We are specified into more than 80% of the top 20 biologic drugs and have a leading position in our core technologies, including buffers and excipients. Our recently completed IPO was the largest healthcare IPO in US history and provides us with a stronger financial position to continue to grow our business.

Given strong investor demand, we were able to build a high-quality blue-chip investor base and increase the total capital raised to $4.4 billion. We used the proceeds to retire $2.6 billion of senior preferred equity and pay down $1.6 billion in term loans.

Following the IPO, we received upgrades from all three rating agencies and successfully re-priced our term loans. With these actions, we reduced our annual interest expense by more than $100 million annually.

With our improved capital structure and continued strong business performance, we reduced our leverage 1.8 turns in the second quarter, positioning us to end the year with leverage near 4.5 times.

Turning to our second quarter business results, our strong momentum continued and we delivered another excellent quarter with 6.1% organic revenue growth and a 140 basis point improvement in adjusted EBITDA margin. Importantly, we made great progress in executing our growth strategy.

We had a number of significant contract wins and renewals, made key additions to our product portfolio, and realized a substantial increase in web activity following recent investments to our e-commerce platform.

In addition to delivering a record quarter in our bio-production platform, we secured a major supply position with our aseptic single-use technology for a leading pharmaceutical customer that is launching a life-saving gene therapy treatment.

We also broke ground on our new bio-repository facility in Germany, reinforcing our commitment to the services platform and enabling sustained double-digit growth. Our integration of VWR continues to track ahead of schedule, including realization of synergies.

As we have previously outlined, we expect to capture more than $300 million of cost and commercial synergies by the end of 2020. As of the end of the second quarter, our program is more than three-quarters complete with a run rate impact of approximately $230 million.

These synergies are an important driver of our margin expansion and overall value creation. As I referenced earlier, we reduced our leverage in the second quarter by 1.8 turns with 0.3 turns coming from our operational performance within the quarter.

We remain committed to de-leveraging our balance sheet by roughly 1 turn per year as we look to operate in a more normalized leverage range long term. Before I hand off to Tom to discuss our second quarter results in more detail, I would like to remind you of our long-term financial goals and convey how well we performed against them this quarter.

Avantor’s organic growth of 6% demonstrates the continued momentum of our business as well as the value of our integrated platform. Our operational discipline and synergy capture drove significant margin expansion and increased un-levered free cash flow.

As I referenced earlier, we are on pace to end the year with leverage near 4.5 times and are well positioned for a strong finish to 2019. Now I’d like to turn the call over to Tom to review our financial performance in more detail..

Tom Szlosek

in the second half of 2020, we will have opportunity to re-price a significant portion of our outstanding debt, the majority of which currently carries interest rates in the 6% to 9% range. Before turning it back over to Michael, I would like to provide some guidance for our 2019 earnings. I am on Slide 16.

We currently expect revenues of $6.08 billion to $6.14 billion, an organic increase of roughly 6% to 7%. This is comparable to our first-half organic growth rate of approximately 7%. On adjusted EBITDA, we expect $1.04 billion to $1.06 billion, an increase of 10% to 12%, or 11% to 13% excluding the impacts of foreign exchange.

The relationship of sales to EBITDA growth is in line with what we expect during the period that we are integrating VWR and benefiting from the resultant synergies. The guidance assumes stable demand and a foreign exchange environment that is also stable; also, a limited impact from Brexit.

Michael will have a few wrap-up comments before we take your questions..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks, Tom. To conclude, we are pleased with the strong performance and growth we delivered in the second quarter, led by the strength of our biopharma and service platforms. The execution focus enabled by our Avantor business system yielded significant margin expansion, synergy realization, and de-leveraging.

We remain confident in the value of our business model and role as a trusted partner to our customers in the life sciences, advanced technologies, and applied materials industries. We delivered an outstanding first half and have great momentum heading into the back half of the year. With that, I will turn the call back over to the operator.

We are ready to take your questions..

Operator

Certainly. [Operator Instructions] Tycho Peterson with JPMorgan, your line is open..

Tycho Peterson

Hey, good morning. Congrats on the quarter. I’d like to start with the EBITDA outlook. You are coming in at between 70 bps and 100 bps this year, a little bit below your kind of long-term guidance.

Is that all FX impact or is there anything else to factor in for the EBITDA outlook for the remainder of the year?.

Tom Szlosek

No, and in fact, the guide of $1.040 billion to $1.060 billion, as you know, is in the 11% to 13% range growth. And we have carefully considered the second half opportunities ahead of us. I would say the margin expansion probably would be on the higher end of what you mentioned, Tycho. I think will be in the 100% – or, sorry, 100 basis points or more.

First half has been well over 150 basis points, so I expect that to continue..

Tycho Peterson

And then on the biopharma piece, can you provide a little bit more color on pharma versus biotech? And you called out the gene therapy wins; if you could just talk a little bit about how big that business is for you today? That would be helpful..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, thanks for the question, Tycho. Obviously, biopharma is an important end market for us; represents roughly half of our revenue. And we are positioned to service that market, as you know, all the way from the research and development activities all the way through to full scale manufacturing.

And we have got great exposure to not only the large players in that market, but importantly to the startup community, where the lion’s share molecules are being developed today. Naturally, just given our broad exposure, we are going to have some exposure to the small molecule space today, which is an important growth driver for the business.

Or perhaps more excitingly is the investments and the growth that we see in the large molecule space, which is where we see significant upside opportunities not only today but going forward. Cell and gene therapy, as you mentioned, is an important subset of that biologics therapeutic area.

And we are super excited about the promise that those therapies hold for patients around the world. And our portfolio is well positioned to serve not only the traditional monoclonal antibody technologies but is also fairly readily transferable into the cell and gene therapy space. So we have a growing pipeline.

We are going to be specked into or we are specked into all of the commercialized platforms today.

And as we noted in our prepared remarks secured an important win, particularly with our single-use technologies, on a recently commercialized platform, so as we have outlined before, we expect to see this platform grow high-single digits to low double-digits going forward and our quarter came right in the middle of it this year or in this quarter..

Tycho Peterson

Okay. And if I can ask one last quick one for Tom.

Just if we think about the back half of the year 3Q versus 4Q, given the tough comp in 3Q, any color you can give us on kind of pacing for the back half of the year, sequential basis?.

Tom Szlosek

It shouldn’t be too much different than what we have done historically. I will say that there was a little bit of timing 2Q to Q3 where there is some seasonal sales that kind of fall on the cusp of that June 30 timeframe, a little bit later. We were able to pull a little bit of those into the second quarter.

So I think third quarter will be a little more modest than historical patterns, but not significant. And then you will see our normal fourth-quarter ramp-up..

Tycho Peterson

Thank you..

Operator

Patrick Donnelly with Goldman Sachs, your line is open..

Patrick Donnelly

Great. Thanks, guys. I had one on Europe. Pretty impressive results there with 6% organic growth, particularly in the light of what peers are putting out and some of the macro data we are seeing.

Can you just talk through the growth drivers there as well as the sustainability, your outlook in Europe for the rest of the year?.

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, sure. Thanks for the question, Patrick. Others say we are excited about the momentum that we have in our European business. And would point out that the second quarter can always be a bit tricky, given where Easter holiday falls in the quarter.

And would point out that the 6% top-line growth we delivered in the quarter was despite the fact that the Easter holiday fell squarely in the quarter. And on a comp basis, we had Easter straddling the quarter in 2018. So without that effect, you would have actually seen even a bit stronger results.

But we actually see broad-based momentum building in Europe, led, not surprisingly perhaps, by our biopharma space. We are well positioned across that important end market. And as we connect in our proprietary materials from our portfolio into our supply chain in Europe, we are seeing considerable growth in the region and would expect it to continue.

Obviously there is noise around the globe at a macro level around the industrial complex. And in Europe, there are certainly certain pockets where demand is somewhat muted. But I think when you see our results in that context, obviously it speaks to the resiliency of our portfolio.

The fact that 85% of our revenue is recurring and the fact that we have great not only end market diversity but also a diverse customer set with limited exposure to any single customer. So we are excited about the momentum that we have there, Patrick, and see that continuing in the second half of the year..

Patrick Donnelly

That’s helpful. And maybe just one for Tom, appreciate all the color on the tax rate, obviously quite a bit higher than your peers there. Now that you have been able to restructure some debt, you talked through the interest deductibility, maybe just talk through opportunity for further leverage on the tax rate.

What is a realistic rate a couple years out, again, given the significant gap between you and peers?.

Tom Szlosek

Yes, it’s a good question, Patrick. Thank you. Certainly, this has been a big area of attention for us, and when you look at the guide that we initially provided, we were talking about 29% to 33% for 2019. We have narrowed that to 30% to 31% and so we see a little bit of progress there.

I think one of the biggest opportunities that we have is in just how we are financing our international operations. And we are doing some restructuring. I expect the rate in 2020 to come down markedly, probably in that 25% to 27% range.

And then going forward, there are a number of more meaningful opportunities that we are pursuing that have to be carefully considered in light of how we are serving customers across the globe. But it’s something that is a big focus. So I think – to summarize, I think you are right.

I think 2020 will be markedly better and we will continue to pursue opportunities..

Patrick Donnelly

Great, thank you..

Operator

Derik De Bruin with Bank of America, your line is open..

Derik De Bruin

Hey, good morning..

Tom Szlosek

Morning, Derik..

Derik De Bruin

So can you talk a little bit about the FX impact for the top line for the rest of the year and 3Q?.

Tom Szlosek

Yes, we have assumed a constant rate from here on out for the rest of the year. And so if you look at the growth for the year, the difference between reported growth and organic growth should be fairly similar to what we saw in the first half..

Derik De Bruin

Got it. And the organic revenue growth guide was actually more than we were forecasting. And so I am just curious about the second half expectations on mix, just given that the EBITDA guide for the second half of the year is a little bit lower than what we had sort of anticipated.

Can you – is there anything weird going on in the mix that you are looking for in the back half?.

Tom Szlosek

doing a nice job on managing on the gross margin side the price COGS. And you are seeing that show up and we have confidence that will continue. Also, the integration synergies from the VWR acquisition continue to come through. I’m happy to talk about the details of that, but we are tracking ahead of plan, as I said in my comments.

We do have a little bit of headwind from mix and it’s kind of a double-edged sword. We are growing more in some areas than others. And so we had faster-than-anticipated growth in consumables, faster than anticipated growth in service.

As you know on the service side, it’s a higher variable cost model and so you have a little bit of a mix impact from that. Inflation is pretty well managed; it’s probably a little bit more in Europe than we expected, but overall, we are certainly covering that with our commercial activities.

And then there is a modest impact from the integration on the supply chain side in our manufacturing plants. As we continue on the journey to a fully integrated supply chain, there is some inventory provisioning that has come through. Pretty focused, pretty narrow; I don’t expect it to recur. But that has had a little bit of a headwind on the margin.

But overall, I think we are comfortable with the ranges that I articulated..

Derik De Bruin

Great. Thanks. I will get back in the queue..

Operator

Jack Meehan with Barclays, your line is open..

Jack Meehan

Thank you. Good morning..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Good morning Jack..

Jack Meehan

Good morning. Michael, I was hoping you could elaborate a little bit more on the advanced technologies and applied. I appreciate you kind of have some unique mix there.

But maybe just focus on what is the exposure to some of the more cyclical areas? How much visibility do you have into the back half? And what does the guide assume in terms of the growth rate for that business in the second half?.

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, thanks for the question, Jack. Obviously given what we see globally from a macro perspective, I can certainly understand the concern about any exposure to the industrial complex.

And fortunately, as you know, any industrial exposure that we have is isolated to that advanced technologies and applied materials portion of our portfolio where we serve a really diverse set of end markets.

Where none of them, whether that be semiconductor or food and beverage or aerospace and defense and many others, none of them on their own represent more than low single-digit percentage of our overall revenue. So, we don’t have a high degree of exposure.

And you see that in our second quarter numbers where that part of our business did have low single-digit growth. And I think it owes to the unique exposure that we do have to that space, where, similar to our life sciences platform, a lot of what we do there is going to be backed by specifications on commercialized platforms.

So, we tend to have more unique project or platform exposure as well as a lot of consumables chemicals, reagents revenue into the quality control, quality assurance functions within the R&D and production laboratories of those end markets.

So again, resilient, highly recurring portfolio that allows us to kind of weather the ups and downs in that market. Now clearly, there were some pronounced headwinds in the quarter that offset some of the growth that we did see, would specifically point to a weak semiconductor environment in Asia.

We actually grew our semiconductor business in the U.S. quite significantly, but in Asia, there are definitely headwinds as that supply chain resets their inventory levels. We had some nice growth on the backend of some aerospace and defense specifications, for example, food and beverage, petchem, a bit weak.

But net-net, we did see low-single-digit growth. And we look to the back half, I think the guidance that we baked in would come with the expectation of relatively similar performance for the second half of the year relative to the first half. We don’t really see a meaningful change or improvement in the any of the markets where we had any headwinds..

Jack Meehan

That makes sense. And then just one follow-up on the commercial side with the integration, I was actually curious what pricing added in the quarter? And I know you have been doing work with different algorithms and AI. Just how you are rolling that out and whether there is, any important rollouts in the back half of the year. Thanks..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thanks for the question. Obviously pricing in a business like this is certainly important. And we have a number of different mechanisms for thinking about price, including capturing the value of the offering that we do have as well as some sophisticated algorithms to manage a really diverse portfolio that includes more than 6 million products.

And Tom referenced kind of the inflationary environment that we’ve seen through the year. Our teams have done a really nice job of taking that into account and being able to offset that through pricing.

At an overall level, I would say pricing did play an important role in the growth of the business, but probably within the historical range of 20% to 40% of our growth coming through pricing, 60% to 80% of our growth coming through volume. And I think we saw those ratios hold in the second quarter..

Operator

Ross Muken with Evercore ISI, your line is open..

Ross Muken

Good morning, guys, and congrats. You talked a little bit maybe I missed on the healthcare business. I know that sort of accelerated a little bit sequentially. It could be a bit lumpy. Just give us a little color underlying some of the moving parts there..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes, sure, Ross. I think we obviously have a number of different parts of our business that touch that space, including our biomaterials area, our medical grade silicone platform, where we realized record revenue in the quarter, as I mentioned in my remarks.

We have obviously a consumables exposure there through our offerings into the hospital and clinical environment, which continue to see strong growth. So overall, I would say we saw continued strong momentum in that space, offset on the margin here by a little bit tougher funding environment, especially in Canada.

We had also we have got a modest diagnostics kit exposure in Asia that is somewhat dependent on kind of the timing of monsoon season and such, where on a year-over-year basis you see a little bit of a push there in the timing.

So, a few, kind of one-off items that probably are more timing related with a little bit of funding in Canada that drove that slightly negative. But the core offering there, those platforms continue to run at a pretty high level..

Ross Muken

And then maybe just philosophically, I mean, you talked a little bit about capital allocation.

Obviously near term you would be de-leveraging, but ultimately this is a business that could obviously take on quite a bit more assets, sort of become a very attractive platform for tuck-in M&A? I guess how do you think about types of assets or the types of returns or what you will target, whether it is geographic versus product segment or the like just in terms of a blush of what we will expect eventually as we get to more manageable leverage levels?.

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

We would definitely agree with your perspective on that. When you look at our customer access that we have through our channel, the global nature of our business, we do think this is a platform that will serve as a consolidator of the space going forward.

And we are obviously anxious to be able to deploy capital to accelerate the growth using that mechanism. Clearly, biopharma is our most important segment and gets certainly a disproportionate share of the capital allocation and I would expect that to play out going forward.

When we think about the type of assets that we would be interested in, they probably fall in two or three different buckets. Clearly, we are underrepresented in Asia and anything that would accelerate our growth there would be interesting to us. As you know, we are also structured around our customers’ workflows.

And so, as we look to enhance the content that we provide to an individual workflow, there is opportunities there that we would look to fill in through M&A. And then lastly, anything that deepens our technology footprint, particularly with an eye towards biopharma and bioproduction especially would be interesting to us..

Ross Muken

Great. Thank you, guys..

Operator

Doug Schenkel with Cowen, your line is open..

Doug Schenkel

Good morning. You mentioned the exit of some less profitable customer accounts within the Americas healthcare end market.

Is there any more detail you can provide on these accounts? Specifically, how much of a headwind did this layer in during the quarter? And is this something that is going to continue to be a slight headwind through the rest of the year?.

Tom Szlosek

No, good question, Doug, I think the mid it’s a normal part of our just managing the business and getting clear analytics and business plan on segmenting the portfolio into various pieces, whether it’s customer product line or whatever.

And to the extent we have opportunities for deploying our resources in more profitable areas, we are going to continue to do that. But you shouldn’t read into this as the start of any kind of trend.

But as we see opportunities like this and we are not able to resolve them commercially, we have got to make sure that we are addressing it through the means that we control. If we can’t do that, we will deploy the resources elsewhere. So, it’s a bit of just an ongoing routine management of the book of business that we have..

Doug Schenkel

Okay, that’s helpful. Thank you for that. Pivoting to cash flow and specifically working capital, I was just hoping you could give us a little more detail on working capital in the quarter. That appeared to be the primary driver to weaker cash flow from operations than we were expecting. So, any details here would be helpful.

And I guess looking ahead, how should we be thinking about cash flow from operations for the full year?.

Tom Szlosek

Yes. Well, I mean, I think the performance has been actually quite strong for the first half when you consider that on a GAAP basis, we had basically zero free cash flow in the first half of 2018. We are pushing $50 million in the first half of 2019. And then on an adjusted basis, it is up 21% when you do the interest adjustment that we do.

So, we are making strong progress. But I think your observation’s fair, Doug, that there is a fair amount of investment this quarter into working capital. I would say that it’s more so related to inventory and trying to support the growth in various segments, particularly in Asia.

We referenced the opening of a GMP warehouse in Singapore and certainly we think that is going to drive more growth, but it will require more inventory. I would also just reemphasize that from an overall management focus and incentive perspective, this is a big deal for us.

Michael and his staff have this as a key element that we are reporting out on and discussing every month. And as I said, it is a part of our incentive plan as well. So, I think there has been good progress. I do agree with you that there is more opportunity.

We have to balance supporting the growth with driving the cash performance and we will continue to do so..

Doug Schenkel

Okay, that’s great. Thank you very much..

Operator

We have time for one more question. Brandon Couillard with Jefferies, your line is open..

Brandon Couillard

Thanks for fitting me in. Good morning.

Mike, would you just touch on biopharma in the Americas? I think Tom said it was mid-single digits, which is below the corporate average and I think a step down from kind of the low double-digits you did in the first quarter, was there a timing dynamic there or perhaps a tough comp?.

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

A little bit of tough comp, Brandon. But as you know, that segment there is going to include everything we do in the lab as well as what we do in production. So, you have a little bit of timing that comes through on some of the production platforms that we do see.

But we had a number of significant, contract wins in the quarter that will continue to drive strength and momentum in that business over the long term. So, I don’t think really anything to point out or to be concerned about there, Brandon..

Brandon Couillard

Thanks. And then just a clarification, Tom, I think you said $380 million of interest expense for 2020.

That assumes no further debt repayments from the second quarter on, is that right?.

Tom Szlosek

Yes, it assumes current debt levels. There will be we will be paying down debt over the course of the second half, but we haven’t factored that into that estimate that I gave..

Brandon Couillard

Super. Thank you..

Operator

I would now like to turn the call back over to management for closing remarks..

Michael Stubblefield President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you all for participating in our call today. We really appreciate your support of Avantor. And certainly, once again, we are excited about the strength of our second quarter results and believe the business is positioned for a great second half.

We look forward to our next update at the end of the third quarter and certainly look forward to seeing some of you in person here over the next couple of weeks. So, thank you, everyone. Have a great day..

Operator

This concludes the second quarter earnings call. We thank you for your participation. You may now disconnect..

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