Ladies and gentlemen, thank you for standing by and welcome to the Zscaler Third Quarter 2020 Earnings Conference Call. At this time, all participants are in a listen-only mode. After the speaker presentation, there will be a question-and-answer session. [Operator Instructions] Please be advised that today's conference is being recorded.
[Operator Instructions] I would now like to hand the conference over to your speaker today to Bill Choi. Please go ahead..
Cowen's TMC Conference tomorrow; Bank of America's Global Technology Conference on June 3rd, Baird's Consumer, Technology and Services Conference on June 4th, and the Morgan Stanley's Thematic Conference on Zero Trust Architectures on June 25th.
Presentations for these events will be webcast and the links will be available on our Investor Relations website. Now, I'll turn the call over to Jay..
CASB; Browser Isolation, Zscaler B2B and Zscaler Digital Experience or ZDX. As I mentioned in my deal highlights, our CASB and Browser Isolation products are beginning to generate revenue. As we have indicated before, we anticipate these new products will add to our growth in fiscal 2021 and beyond.
Our cloud security platform protects users’ access to any application from anywhere. Our next opportunity is to expand into protecting applications and data in the cloud. We are pursuing this opportunity in three areas. One, with out-of-band CASB, we are providing comprehensive data protection for SaaS applications.
Two, with the acquisition of Cloudneeti and its cloud security posture management or CSPM functionality, we now provide data protection to public cloud workloads, which is an emerging security market segment.
Three, with today's announcement of acquisition of Edgewise Networks, we are extending Zero Trust protection to east-west traffic within a public cloud or a data center. With Edgewise, we can provide a Zero Trust approach from machine to machine and process to process communications.
Edgewise discovers individual micro services and the legitimate communication patterns, and using AI and machine learning algorithms, automatically creates and enforces authorized process to process communication to provide application segmentation. This is a far superior approach than legacy network segmentation for security.
With our existing and new products, we believe Zscaler is the most comprehensive cloud security platform. And these additional products will expand our already large market opportunity. Now, I'd like to turn over the call to Remo for our financial results..
Thank you, Jay. As mentioned, we had a very strong third quarter. Revenue for the quarter was $110.5 million, up 9% sequentially and 40% year-over-year. From a geographic perspective for the quarter, Americas represented 51% of revenue, EMEA was 40% and APJ was 9%.
Turning to calculated billings, which we define as the change in deferred revenue for the quarter plus total revenue recognized in that quarter. Billings grew 55% year-over-year to $131.3 million. As a reminder, our contract terms are typically one to three years, and we primarily invoice our customers one year in advance.
Remaining performance obligations or RPO, which represents our total committed non-cancelable future revenue, was $654 million on April 30th, up 31% from a year ago. The current RPO is 56% of the total RPO and grew 36% year-over-year. I'd like to call out two dynamics that impacted our billing and contract duration.
We are offering shorter commitments and invoicing period for customers needing help with their business continuity requirements for COVID-19 and in China and Japan free access to ZPA for two months. The overall impact of these initiatives to our billings and RPO was relatively modest.
With billing duration, approximately flat year-over-year and with contract durations down slightly, we also had a higher mix of upsell business, which typically is shorter contracts and billing durations as it often co-terminates with the existing contracts.
Our strong customer retention and ability to upsell have resulted in a consistently high dollar-based net retention rate, which is 119% for the quarter and benefited from increased adoption of ZPA with existing customers. This compares to 118% a year ago, and 116% last quarter. As is highlighted, this metric will vary quarter-to-quarter.
While good for our business, our increased success in selling bigger Transformation Bundles, selling both, the ZIA and ZPA from the start, and faster upsells within a year, can reduce our dollar based net retention rate in the future. Considering these factors, we feel 119% is outstanding.
Total gross margin was 80%, down 2 percentage points sequentially in year-over-year. This decline is primarily due to ZPA traffic growing over 10x during the quarter. To support this surge in demand by augmenting the use of AWS and Azure, which run at significantly higher costs compared to our data centers.
We decided to prioritize helping our customers gain ramp quickly, rather than managing our cloud infrastructure to optimize our gross margins. We're working to reduce the use of public cloud and increase the capacity in our data centers over the next three quarters. But we expect some pressure on gross margin in the near-term.
We expect overall gross margins to be 76% to 77% in Q4, 78%, in the first half of fiscal 2021, and we expect to return to our 80% target in the second half of fiscal 2021. We feel it's important to continue to invest in our cloud infrastructure to drive top-line revenue growth. Turning to operating expenses.
Our total operating expenses increased 11% sequentially and 35% year-over-year to $79.6 million, and decreased as a percentage of revenue to 72% compared to 74% last year. Sales and marketing increased 6% sequentially and 35% year-over-year to $52.6 million.
We had two mid-year regional sales kickoffs in February for training and team building that represented $2.3 million in expenses. The year-over-year increase is due to higher compensation expenses and investments in building our team and go-to-market initiatives offset by lower T&E.
R&D was up 20% sequentially and up 39% year-over-year to $17.1 million. The increase is primarily due to continued investments in our team to enhance our product functionality and innovate new products. G&A increased 22% sequentially and 26% year-over-year to $9.9 million.
The growth in G&A includes investments within our teams, compensation related expenses, and professional fees including acquisition-related expenses. Our third quarter operating margin was 8%, which compared to the 8% in the same quarter last year. Net income in the quarter was $9 million or non-GAAP earnings per share of $0.07.
We ended the quarter with $391 million in cash, cash equivalents and short-term investments and no debt. Free cash flow was positive $9 million in the quarter. Before moving on to guidance, I'd like to share a few additional thoughts related to COVID-19 that may be informative.
Though we are not yet able to accurately predict the long-term impact of the pandemic, we did not experience a negative impact to our top-line results from COVID-19 this quarter. We attribute this to our focus on large enterprises, our recurring revenue model and our market position as customers move increasingly to the cloud.
We had good linearity in the quarter with a strong March and April and May-to-date continues to be strong. We have not seen any meaningful pressure on renewals or receivable collections to date due to COVID-19, though the long-term impact on our customers and partners is not fully known.
Renewals due in the next 12-18 months may place downward pressure depending on how the economy recovers. Our overall exposure to industries particularly impacted by COVID-19, like transportation, hospitality, retail and leisure where workforce reductions have been announced publicly is less than 10%.
Now, moving on to guidance which incorporates these observations. A reminder, these numbers are all non-GAAP, which exclude stock-based compensation expenses, amortization of intangible assets, facility exit costs and any associated tax effects.
For the fourth quarter, we expect revenue in the range of $117 million to $119 million, reflecting year-over-year growth of 36% to 38%; operating profit in the range of $2 million to $4 million; other income of $1 million; income taxes of $1 million; and earnings per share of approximately $0.02 to $0.03, assuming 140 million common shares outstanding.
For the full year fiscal 2020, we expect revenue in the range $422 million to $424 million or year-over-year growth of 39% or 40%; calculated billings in the range of $529 million to $531 million for year-over-year growth of 36%.
Excluding $11 million of upfront billings in Q2 2019, our updated billings guidance for the fiscal year implies growth of 40%.
Operating profit in the range of $24 million to $26 million; other income of $6.4 million; income taxes $3.5 million; and earnings per share in the range of $0.20 to $0.21, assuming approximately 138 million common shares outstanding.
The acquisitions of Cloudneeti and Edgewise Networks are expected to have an immaterial impact on revenue in Q4 and in fiscal 2021, as they are early stage companies. The cash purchase price of Cloudneeti, which closed in mid-April was $9 million, and the cash purchase price Edgewise which closed last week was $31 million.
Our plan is to further develop these products, incorporate their technologies into our platform. We expect to incur approximately $2 million in additional operating expenses related to the acquisitions in Q4 and $12 million to $14 million in fiscal 2021. This is incorporated into our Q4 guidance.
Our guidance reflects our plans to invest aggressively in our business to pursue our significant market opportunity. We've been very successful in hiring and onboarding remotely, and remain on track to increase our field sales rep headcount by 60% for the full year.
We're very-pleased with the progress in our go-to-market initiatives and confident that these investments will build the foundation for long term growth. In addition, we will increase investments in our technology platform and cloud infrastructure. Now, I'd like to hand the call back over to Jay..
Thank you, Remo. In closing, let me state five key points that make me excited. One, secure digital transmission, which is a market we have purpose built to address is accelerating. Two, as we have seen with SaaS leaders, like Salesforce and Workday, architecture matters. Only a cloud native multi-tenant architectures can enable through transformation.
Three, our customers are consolidating and simplifying legacy network and security infrastructure, resulting in significant cost savings. Hence, our value proposition is highly attractive to CFOs and CIOs, especially in today's challenging economic environment.
Four, in addition to our ongoing success for delivering comprehensive user protection, our next big opportunity is to expand into protecting applications and data, which we are pursuing through our own internal innovation and targeted acquisitions.
Five, we are delivering world class sales execution, which we believe will drive sustainable long-term growth. We're mindful of the terrible toll that COVID-19 is infecting on the lives of so many people in so many ways. And we hope that we are helping and making difference to our customers and employees in these challenging times.
We wish everyone good health and safety. Operator, you may now open the call for questions..
Thank you, sir. [Operator Instructions] I show our first question comes from the line of Alex Henderson from Needham. Please go ahead..
Well, thank you very much. And thanks for the great quarter. I was hoping you could talk a little bit about the transaction that you won from a next-gen firewall player as cloud architecture.
Are you seeing an increased flow of traffic coming to -- in your pipeline from people who are having the same type of issues? To what extent have you been able to demonstrate that the architecture really does matter to some of those customers? Is that becoming a funnel of opportunity for you?.
If there were good amount of installed base, we will be seeing a lot of flow coming in. There aren’t that many customers who are using firewall based cloud security services. The one that has deployed, we're seeing and who are trying to do security with proper SSL inspection at foundry.
So, in a nutshell, are there lots of customers out there with firewall installed based in the cloud? Not really..
Okay. Then, let me shift to the second follow-up question, if I could. Clearly, you're driving a cloud-direct model. As that happens, you're connecting the user direct to the cloud. And then, applications are increasingly being driven by Kubernetes in a variety of locations, whether that be AWS, Azure or private cloud.
And those start to become points in the cloud, and connectivity to them becomes critical.
Are you planning on doing the connectivity into those locations, those points in the cloud or are you also planning on going beyond that to the CICD processing and the like, where the image is secured before it goes into production or in runtime?.
So, the way we look at accesses, applications, whether sitting in data center, or in a public cloud, or a private cloud, are simply destinations. So, with ZPA, any user can access any of those applications. We're independent of how those applications are deployed and where they're deployed. So, we aren't doing that today.
But the most -- more important stuff we're doing in future, as we announced the acquisition of Edgewise Network is application to application communication security, process to process communication, which we think is the next big opportunity for us..
Our next question comes from Andrew Nowinski from DA Davidson..
I'd like to start with a question on ZPA. So, I was wondering if you could give us any color relative to the pricing of ZPA versus ZIA. And what I'm trying to get at is whether you're indifferent in terms of whether customers start with ZPA and then move to ZIA or vice versa..
So, I will start and Remo can add-on. ZIA and ZPA are two independent product lines, ZIA to provide secure access to external applications like SaaS and internet; and ZPA to provide access to internal applications. Customers can start from either side, it doesn't really matter.
But, since ZIA started very early on with us, so we have a large installed base of customers, who started with ZIA, and those happy customers are adding ZPA, but we do see a number of customers starting with ZPA..
Pricing is similar. We sell in three bundles for each pro business and transformation. So, the pricing is similar and the bundles are similar for both products..
Got it. That makes sense. And then, just a quick follow-up on your hiring target. I don't know if you mentioned it. But I know you are targeting a 60% growth in headcount by the end of the July quarter.
Are you still on track to achieve that?.
Yes, we are -- we had a record quarter in Q3 hiring. We also feel the quality of people they're bringing on board is outstanding. The leadership that we're putting in place throughout the sales organization, for the most part, it's completely in place right now. So, now, we're filling up the ranks with the field sales reps.
But we are planning and expecting to get to 60% field sales rep growth..
Great. Thanks, guys..
Thank you. Our next question comes from Brad Zelnick from Credit Suisse. Please go ahead..
Great. Thank you very much. Guys, I just first want to say congratulations on the success, very impressive to see the acceleration in the business, and frankly the execution during these crazy times. And that really leads to my first question for Jay.
Jay, can you just talk us through the balance of headwinds and tailwinds from COVID-19 that impacted the business? And if you look out on the horizon longer term, how does this experience change the shape of adoption for Zscaler going forward?.
Yes. If you look at what COVID has done, it has forced everyone to work from home. It is accelerating digital transformation. And that's the market we were designed to address. So, we are getting benefit from COVID-19 as every customer has to work from home.
And you saw a number of examples where we enabled so many customers literally overnight or over a week or two weeks. So, it's helping us.
Now, the next question ends up being what happens after two or three months? We think that changes that CIOs, CTOs are seeing with transformation that being able to work from home, they are actually accelerating their transformation.
One of the new things that I learned during this transition was, I'm working from home, all of my employees are working from home without using my corporate network, why do I need the corporate network? Why do I need to do this local internet breakout and why do I need to do this SD-WAN transformation? So, a lot of customers are buying into going to the final step of transformation where a user can directly go to any application from anywhere.
So, net-net, we are seeing some good tailwind. Now, the headwind could potentially be reduction in spend because every company is becoming cost conscious. And that's where actually our story is getting more compelling. Since we do such a great ROI, so CFOs and CIOs and are looking for consolidation of vendors.
And this consolidation is around best of breed platforms, rather than best of breed point products. So, they like our position that we're not trying to play in four different market segments that are totally different, but in a very meaningful segment where we are the Zero Trust exchange to connect anything to anything.
So, net-net, we think this trend of accelerated digital transformation is going to help our business..
That makes perfect sense. And it would seem to me Zscaler was built for a situation just like this. Maybe my follow-up just for Remo, the net expansion is a metric that you've been deemphasizing over the last several quarters and maybe somewhat unsurprisingly, at least to us. It's nice to see it's up significantly, in the April quarter.
How should we think about it as we look forward? And what are you assuming? I know, you've only given us one quarter of guidance.
But even as you're formulating your own plan into next year, how are you thinking about expansion of the base?.
Yes. We talked about it. And we deemphasized the net retention rate. However, it stayed pretty consistent for the last three years. From my perspective, I don't want to give forward guidance on net retention rate, but I don't see the composition of our business significantly changing in the near future..
Great. Thank you guys so much and congrats again..
Thank you..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Daniel Bartus from Bank of America. Please go ahead..
Great. Hey, guys. Thanks a lot for taking the questions. Jay, I just wanted to drill down on your SD-WAN-driven sales and what you're hearing from customers.
And I'm thinking, does it make sense that this 3Q maybe the trough for your ZIA business tat’s typically tied to SD-WAN? And then, as we look into the 4Q and beyond, do SD-WAN headwinds potentially persist, or do you hear that it's going to be a priority as to save money as people kind of trickle back into the offices?.
Well, that’s a question we have been asking a lot of CIOs as we talk to them. As work from home order happened, all network changes got put on hold. There's only one priority, I need my employees to work from home securely, which really needed a ZIA kind of product to go to external applications, ZPA to go to internal applications.
So, we actually benefited from not even having to deal with SD-WAN because sometimes network transformation can take longer. We expect that as customers go back to the office, they will be revisiting some SD-WAN projects. But, if it has shown the CIOs that they don't have to depend on the network, and they can move forward faster with it.
I was talking to CIO of this very large company, about 100,000 users, who was actually looking at doing the SD-WAN breakout. And now having seen this, he said, I’ll think about it if I need to, but I am finding that I can run my business without worrying about the network. In IT, things don't change overnight. But the emphasis is changing.
We think now the shift is happening. It is less focus on network, more focus on access from anywhere..
Great. And then, -- that's really helpful.
And just quickly, Remo, I'm wondering if you can help us break out the strength through ZPA between existing ZPA customers, adding more seats and actually adding new ZPA customers?.
Yes. So, the strength in the quarter was ZPA and it was with existing customers. So, the growth both in ZIA and ZPA were very good. So, the growth with the work from home initiatives, the existing customers quickly purchased ZPA. And ZPA represented close to 40% of our new customers.
So, the new customer business historically 50% to 60% mix of the new ACV, but we expect it to return back to the historical mix..
Yes. If I may add, ZPA came from three sources. One was on existing customers have bought some number of seats of ZPA, which is generally having in a 20%, 30%, 40%, 50% range. So, that's one. Second bucket was, Zscaler customers who have bought ZIA were still looking at ZPA hadn't bought it, that decision moved on. That became number two.
And third was customers who bought ZIA and ZPA together, because they were new logos to us. All three contributed to the success of ZPA, while ZIA did very well as well..
Yes. So, the follow-on also, typically in the past we've seen a 50-50 mix of new and existing. Over the last several quarters that mix has been more in the 30% to 50% range. In Q3, it was closer to that lower end of the range..
And that's number of customers..
And the number of customers..
Our next question comes from Saket Kalia from Barclays..
Jay, maybe for you, just to change subject there just for a second. Can you talk about some of the acquisitions here with Cloudneeti and Edgewise? Those are a little different than ZIA and ZPA in terms of displacing sort of an existing vendor of per user kind of per year pricing model.
How do you sort of envision those two new acquisitions sort of fitting into the go-to-market for the future?.
So, first of all, if you look at overall position, Zscaler has been focused on protecting users, no matter what they need to access. That's on ZIA, ZPA, Zscaler B2B story. Our next natural step was to protect applications and data in the cloud.
So, for that Cloudneeti helps us to protect workloads, because misconfigurations and all can cause leakage of data. So, that's an important piece for data protection.
And then Edgewise, basically extends our story of saying, why should we just stop at connecting users to application? Why not application to application, why not process to process, using the same Zero Trust approach that disrupts typical network based security? So, that's all that fit.
Now, from pricing point-of-view, yes, our pricing has been based on number of users. Now, price will be based on, what? Workloads, right? There are millions and millions of workloads going out on the cloud. It will be subscription service, just like everything else, but the unit of pricing becomes workloads..
Maybe for my follow-up for you, Remo. So, helpful commentary in the prepared remarks just around duration. Can you just tell us how you're thinking about duration here in Q4? Understanding the majority of billings here are annually in advance.
You talked a little bit about more co-term business, maybe some shorter commitments as well kind of in a COVID environment.
How are you thinking about sort of the duration inside the implied Q4 billings guide?.
Yes. I really don't see much change in the billing duration in Q4. Our billing duration typically is between 10 and 14 months. And for the last few quarters, several quarters, it’s been a lower half of that range. I'd expect the same in Q4..
Very helpful. Thanks, guys..
Great, thank you..
Thank you. Our next question comes from Catharine Trebnick from Dougherty. Please go ahead..
Thank you for taking my question, and congratulations on good quarter. So, in your prepared remarks, you had discussed that you were doing whiteboarding in some of your activities in the sales motion.
Can you describe? Every time I talk to investors, I get pushed back on how complicated the sales process is for you all, takes longer -- it's a long sales cycle. Could you explain to us or give us sort of background on what that new sales process looks like in COVID-19? Thank you..
Thank you, Catherine. At the core of Zscaler is transformation of the network and applications, because you no longer need traditional hub and spoke network. So, when you try to replace one box of a firewall with a second box of firewall, it's simple. This box comes out, that box goes in.
In Zscaler, we generally need to show them that you don't have to have this hub and spoke network and castle-and-moat security mode. So, you end up doing this architectural discussion.
Now, once architects start getting it and understanding it, the life becomes a lot easier, because typically we don't go through this typical POCs, proof of concept that compares features and functions. And whiteboarding becomes important to show essentially how the network is sitting today, how can it change in phase one, phase two, phase three.
So, we show them the transmission journey. That's where whiteboarding comes in. Is it complicated? I won't say it's complicated. I would say is different than doing the box-centric, POC-centric sale. Here, transformation starts from the C level. And those are generally the first parties we work with.
And generally that C level really depends on architects to show them how the architecture changes. So, we haven't seen any slowdown in terms of engagement. Actually I’ve been surprised to find that getting meetings with C level as well as architects in this confined at home world is actually much easier.
Did I answer your question?.
Yes, you did. Thank you very much..
Thank you, Catharine..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Gray Powell from BTIG. Please go ahead..
Okay. Thanks for taking the question and congratulations on the good results. I want to go back to one of the comments you made in the prepared remarks, particularly on linearity.
So, did you guys see any material benefit from emergency spending initiatives to support work from home? And then, I know you said linearity was strong in March and April, and that may continue to be strong. So, I’m just trying to think of the trendline there.
Was there any like decel in May or how did May compare to April?.
Yes. I won't make a specific comment between May and April. What I can say is that linearity in Q3 was better than we had in prior quarters. We picked up strongly in March, get to work from home with COVID-19. We continued to have a strong April. And so, we ended the quarter well. And that momentum that we had in Q3 is carrying over into May.
And May continues to be strong..
Got it. That makes perfect sense. And then, just one quick one. So, I know you guys mentioned -- you did some free I think it was 90 day trial for promotions on ZPA back in March and April.
Just what's your confidence level in converting those into paid customers? And how big should we think of that opportunity today?.
Yes. I mean, see, as COVID-19 became basically a global pandemic, most of the customers that started with original pre-offer for their China-based employees converted to paying customers.
Some of the customers converted to business continuity program, the sort of commitment period, but many also converting to multi-year commitments with annual billings. So, that's proved that to be good for us..
But just to add on, Remo, we did not have a global trial free program..
That's correct..
We simply did it in China early on when things started. And after that our customers started to call us and say, we need to help to get turned on. It's less of an issue of money. It's more of a matter of my employees need to be productive on Monday morning. And we were crazy busy getting our customers online and making sure they work well..
Got it. Okay. Yes. Thank you very much for clarifying that. All right. I'm good. Thanks..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line Srini Nandury from Summit Insights. Please go ahead..
All right. Thank you for taking my question. Congrats on a great quarter. Jay, you talked about using AWS for some of the processing of data, since you didn't have enough capacity. How does that affect the latency? And more importantly, how long does it take for you to add more capacity to infrastructure? Thank you..
Add capacity to our infrastructure?.
Yes.
That's the reason I presume you're using AWS, right?.
Yes. So, the difference is the following. You need to have some hardware sitting in the data centers where we want to add capacity. The turning on and turning them up and running is not a hard thing at all, literally that’s a matter of maybe a day or two.
So, whatever time it takes, it takes time to acquire hardware and ship it to the data center, then it gets turned on pretty quickly. Now, as COVID happened literally overnight, I still recall on Thursday, I got a call from very large conglomerate in Europe, they said, my over 3,000 people need to start working from home on Monday at 14th of Match.
And I'm already using ZIA, I'm still playing with ZPA, but I need ZPA to turned on by Monday morning. This is in two days notice, right? So, for us to get our capacity ready doesn't take a whole lot shipments and all, does take some time.
And so, it's this good option to be able to use Azure or AWS, as we need to increase capacity for a short amount of time. And as we said in our prepared remarks, the gross margin difference can be significant. So, we use them as we need them and then we can dial that down..
All right. Thank you..
Thank you. Our next question comes from the line of Fatima Boolani from UBS. Please go ahead..
Good afternoon. Thank you for taking the questions. I hope you're all safe and sound. Jay, maybe a question for you to start.
As I zoom out -- or as you zoom out rather, and consider your pipeline, at a time when organizations are perhaps becoming more measured in what they're spending and whom they're spending with, perhaps slow playing some of the big architectural decisions, particularly around SD-WAN as was alluded to earlier.
I was curious how a lot of these dynamics are or will be impacting your pipeline composition, if I consider some of your traditional demand drivers across competitive displacement, SD-WAN adoption and Office 365 migrations?.
Yes. If I may say our number one driver has been digital transformation, whether Office 365 or SD-WAN, any of those things have been coming from one core thing, it is very true that every CIO and CFO is becoming more cost conscious. And that's where -- so the decision is not driven by I need to change the architecture.
The decision is driven by, I need to consolidate and my multiple vendors, reduce my costs and be ready for digital transformation. If you look at from two buckets point-of-view, consolidation, we do because of a great platform and architecture readiness gets in there. So, we actually see this thing accelerating in many ways.
Especially, the network with generally the slowest moving part is becoming less important factor, because CIOs have seen business work without using the corporate network.
Did I answer your question?.
Yes. That’s super helpful. And Remo, maybe a question for you. Just as it relates to volumes of large deals in the quarter, you provided some very marquee examples in the prepared remarks of the 200,000-seat win. So I'm curious if there is any outsized or unusually large impact from very large deals in the quarter. And that's it for me. Thank you..
No. I mean, there's no real large deal in the quarter. I mean, a lot of deals are greater than $500,000, ACV, which is a great quarter for us. But, nothing stands out as a very, very large deal..
And our last question comes from Shebly Seyrafi from FBN Securities..
So, my question is, you're going to have four new products ramping in '21.
Do you have an estimate roughly, what kind of revenue contributions there’ll be?.
Yes. It’s small. It’s not going to be material. If you take a look at our ZPA product that we introduced, I'd say, it’s going to be along those same type of trajectory. A couple of percentage points of our total perhaps in fiscal '21 and then accelerate as we go forward. So, clearly, it’s immaterial basically impact for the products in fiscal '21..
Okay. And then, I know from the number you provided, Americas’ growth accelerated with my spreadsheet to 39% from 30% growth the prior quarter. And you even had a tougher year-to-year comparison in the Americas.
So, is this just COVID or are there other factors in the Americas driving it?.
So, it relates to products, it also relates to new and upsell, not revenue. So, just so you're aware that. Related to the growth in the region, I can say that all regions did very, very well. For new and upsell, there is no region that did not do well. EMEA, APJ and Americas, all did about the same..
Okay. Thank you..
Thank you. This concludes our Q&A session. At this time, I'd like to turn it over to Mr. Chaudhry, CEO, for closing remarks..
Good. All right. Well, thank you for your interest in Zscaler. We wish everyone good health and safety. Look forward to seeing you at our next quarterly earnings call..
Great. Thank you..
Thank you..
Thank you. Ladies and gentlemen, this concludes today's conference call. Thank you for participating. You may now disconnect..