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EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT
EARNINGS CALL TRANSCRIPT 2018 - Q3
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Executives

Howard Goldman - Director, IR Sunny Sanyal - President and CEO Clarence Verhoef - CFO.

Analysts

Anthony Petrone - Jefferies Larry Solow - CJS Securities John Koller - Oppenheimer & Co. Francesco Faiella - Sidoti & Company.

Operator

Greetings and welcome to the Varex Imaging Corporation Third Quarter Fiscal Year 2018 Earnings Call. At this time all participants are in listen only mode. A brief question and answer session will follow the formal presentation. [Operator Instructions] As a reminder, this conference is being recorded.

It is now my pleasure to introduce your host, Howard Goldman, Director of Investor Relations. Thank you, Mr. Goldman. You may begin..

Howard Goldman

Good afternoon, and welcome to our earnings conference call for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018. With me today are Sunny Sanyal, our President and CEO; and Clarence Verhoef, our CFO. To simplify our discussion, unless otherwise stated, all references to the quarter are fiscal quarters.

Quarterly comparisons are for the third quarter of fiscal 2018 versus the third quarter of fiscal 2017, unless stated otherwise. Year-to-date comparisons are for the first 3 quarters of fiscal year 2018 versus the first 3 quarters of fiscal year 2017, unless stated otherwise. On today's call, we will discuss certain non-GAAP financial measures.

These adjusted measures are not presented in accordance with, nor are they a substitute for, GAAP financial measures. We've provided a reconciliation of each adjusted financial measure to the most directly comparable GAAP financial measure in our earnings press release, which is posted on our website.

Please be advised that during this call we will be making forward-looking statements, which are predictions or projections about future events. These statements are based on current expectations and assumptions that are subject to risks and uncertainties that can cause actual results to differ materially from those anticipated.

Additional information concerning factors that could cause actual results to materially differ is contained in our SEC filings, including Item 1A, Risk Factors of our annual report on Form 10-K for fiscal year 2017, and subsequent quarterly reports on Form 10-Q.

The information in this discussion speaks as of today's date, and we assume no obligation to update or revise the forward-looking statements in this discussion. And now I'll turn the call over to Sunny..

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, Howard. Good afternoon, everyone. Revenues for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018 were $191 million, up 12% from the prior year. With solid growth across all of our platforms. We had strong performance in our high end radiographic, cargo security, oncology and mammography product lines.

And for the trailing 12 months, revenues from our connect and control and software product offerings were up double digits. Our Medical segment grew 6% to $143 million, which was lower than our expectations.

During the quarter, we had strong growth from our new high end radiographic digital detector, and saw increased demand for our mammography X-ray tubes. However, late in the quarter, we experienced some unexpected softness in demand. Our initial assessment is that the uncertainty over tariffs caused some of our customers to delay shipments.

We also saw lower demands from some of our Japanese customers in the quarter. Industrial segment revenues for the third quarter increased 36% to $48 million.

This growth was primarily driven by additional revenues from industrial detectors used in nondestructive testing applications, and higher linear accelerator revenues compared to a light quarter a year ago. Despite apparent tariff related headwinds, China remains a key growth area for our CT business.

Our Chinese OEM customers are in different stages of obtaining regulatory approvals and continue to make progress towards their product launches. We saw a nice increase in CT tube shipments to China in Q3, and expect that we will have shipped more than 400 tubes by the end of the fiscal year.

We're now seeing that much of the ramp-up of CT tubes for China will happen in fiscal 2019, rather than the second half of fiscal year 2018. When you combine that with the uncertainty associated with tariffs and other factors, we now believe that our revenue growth for the year will be in the range of 8% to 10%.

Besides working with OEMs in China, we have also continued to innovate in areas such as mammography and surgery, which helps drive our global growth. Innovation is the lifeblood of our business. And I'm happy to say that our investments in R&D are paying off. Let me briefly review some of the recent successes in various modalities.

In the third quarter, we received FDA clearance for a full size, high definition, flat panel detector, and we already have a multiyear agreement with a global X-ray system's manufacturer to supply this detector.

In the surgical CR market, a number of key customers have recently launched systems that include one of our newer flat panel detectors replacing older image intensifier by technology, and another large customer will include our X-ray tubes in their system.

We continue to expand our leadership position in mammography tubes, and recently a Global OEM launched a new mammography system targeted at emerging markets using our tube technology. In cardiology, a leading manufacturer using our CMOS detector technology in a high-end interventional cardiology system.

Our detector will not only be used in their new systems, but could also be offered up as upgrades to the install base. On the industrial side, in Q3, we signed a multiyear supply agreement for full size, high-energy flat panel detectors, with a leading Japanese manufacturer of industrial imaging systems.

In addition, we recently introduced a new linear accelerator that can image an entire truck in a single continuous scan utilizing our adaptive dose technology. We believe this technology can expand the use of X-ray imaging and security applications at checkpoints on highways.

Globally, we have an install base of approximately 1,500 linear accelerators in industrial and security applications. During this quarter, we concluded our strategic planning for the next 5 years.

We are energized by the discussions, which focused on growth and customer retention, we are innovation and reducing total cost of ownership in each of our product lines. In addition to expansion in China, a key outcome of the planning resulted in an increased focus on opportunities in our Industrial segment.

As we have mentioned before, we expect long-term double-digit growth in China, where the demand for CT imaging systems is increasing as the government focus on expanding and modernizing health care. We plan to strengthen our position as the local supplier by expanding service and support capabilities as well as manufacturing and sourcing in country.

Looking at the industrial X-ray imaging market, the opportunity for growth here is significant. We hear potential $300 million of market opportunity for the Varex within our existing product line. We expect this segment to grow at a faster rate than Medical segment.

Due to analog and disc to digital conversion and increased speed -- increased need for automated product inspections. Over the last few years, many new 2D and 3D imaging applications are making a difference in quality and speed of automated inspections in manufacturing.

We believe that computer-aided detection software algorithms that assist with material analysis, automation and defect identification is going to drive growth in this area. Varex is well positioned as we look to leverage software technologies that we have developed for medical applications into these new industrial opportunities.

To ensure that we aggressively address these opportunities, we are putting additional leadership focus on industrial imaging space. Carl LaCasce, who led our global sales and marketing team for the last four years, will now lead our Industrial segment as Senior Vice President and General Manager.

Joining Carl is a highly capable team of existing Varex senior leaders with proven track records, who will focus on bringing products to market and sales expansion. On the Medical side, I'm pleased to announce that Andrew Hartman has joined Varex as Senior Vice President of Global Sales and Marketing for our Medical segment.

Andrew has over 30 years of experience in sales and general management roles in medical imaging on the OEM side. Most recently, he served in leadership roles at Carestream Health, including General Manager for X-ray solutions. Andrew also worked at Siemens in several positions of increasing responsibilities in sales and general management.

We believe these management changes will sharpen our focus on innovation, quality and delivery in each segment that we serve, and I'm excited about the opportunities ahead of us. Switching now to the acquired imaging business, integration of our operations continues to move forward.

We announced earlier today that we're ramping down amorphous silicon glass production for digital detectors at our Santa Clara facility. Our intention is to complete the transfer of production to the dpiX in Colorado by the end of the calendar year.

This will allow us to take advantage of available capacity at a larger and more cost effective fabrication facility. Other digital detector manufacturing processing, such as X-ray simulator production and detector assembly will remain at the Santa Clara facility. We believe that Varex's business is a very good platform for inorganic growth.

I'm happy to say that in the recent major acquisitions that we have done of PerkinElmer Medical Imaging, Claymount and MeVis are performing better than expected, and we're encouraged by the future prospects.

Now that we're nearing completion of integration of the acquired imaging business, we are actively seeking out new inorganic growth opportunities. With that, let me had over the call to our CFO, Clarence Verhoef to talk about our financial performance in greater detail..

Clarence Verhoef

Thanks, Sunny. I'm going to focus the discussion on Q3 results, while the year-to-date financials can be found in our press release. I would summarize this Q3 as having good top line growth while our gross margins contracted due to some operational challenges in product mix, which were partially offset by a favorable tax benefit.

Our year-to-date operating margins have not met our expectations. We are doing a detailed review of our business and cost structure and are focusing on reducing the cost of goods sold and SG&A expenses as well as prioritizing R&D projects towards those with the highest return on investment.

Let me start with an explanation of the restructuring charges and the benefits we will incur going forward. We expect to ramp down the Santa Clara fab operations by the end of the calendar year. Decommission and sell the equipment in the first half of 2019 and book various restructuring costs over that time.

The total amount of restructuring charges is expected to be $19 million to $23 million, primarily due to accelerated depreciation and the impairment of assets. Less than a net of $3 million of the charges are cash-based expenses, associated with employee and severance related costs, due to a partial offset by the proceeds from the sale of assets.

We recorded $7 million of restructuring charges in the third quarter. As a reminder, in the second quarter, we recorded $2 million of restructuring charges for the closing of our London R&D site, which will be completed by the end of the calendar year. We expect to gain $10 million to $13 million of annual cost savings from the restructurings.

The majority of these savings will improve gross margin, and we expect those to take effect in the second quarter of fiscal year 2019. We will also see savings in R&D expense spread over the next 12 months. As for the tariffs, in addition to the uncertainty with our top line, they are also starting to impact our gross margin. The initial U.S.

tariffs on imports of steel and aluminum as well as the U.S. tariffs on imports from China, that took effect on July 6, have a small direct impact of about 20 basis points on our gross margins. In addition, we are getting hints of cost inflation from our supply chain as they deal with their increased costs.

The list of products subject to China tariffs on U.S. exports, that also took effect on July 6th, does not include any of our products. We will continue to monitor the additional tariffs being proposed by the U.S. administration as well as by China and the EU, to understand the potential effect on our business.

We have been working closely with our OEM customers to develop solutions to this challenging problem. Now for the third quarter financials. Including the benefit of one additional month of revenues from the acquired imaging business in the current year, our third quarter revenues were up 12% to $191 million.

For comparative purposes, if the additional month of revenue of the acquired imaging business had been included in the prior year quarter, our revenues would have grown 7%. For the third quarter, our gross margin was 33% compared to 35% in the prior year quarter. The adjusted gross margin was 35% compared to 38% a year ago.

Gross margins for the Industrial segment were 4 points lower than the prior year due to unfavorable product mix and higher manufacturing costs. In addition, our Santa Clara site had unfavorable manufacturing cost variances associated with the aging fab operations, and we shipped a lower-than-expected amount of high-end CT tubes.

Based on the lower margins for the first 3 quarters and manufacturing variances at the Santa Clara site, we now expect the full year adjusted gross margin rate to be approximately 36%. R&D expenses were $20 million or 10.7% of revenues in the quarter, which was a slight increase over the year-ago quarter.

Third quarter SG&A expenses were $35 million compared to $26 million in the prior quarter. In the third quarter, we had approximately $8 million of acquisition integration and restructuring costs, compared to $2 million of integration costs in the prior year quarter.

Also contributing to the increased SG&A expenses were higher stock-based compensation expense and consulting fees. Depreciation and amortization totaled $10 million for the third quarter compared to $9 million a year earlier. Our operating earnings for the third quarter were $7 million, down from $16 million in the same quarter a year ago.

Our operating margin rate was 4% in the third quarter, a decline from 9% from in the year ago quarter, reflecting acquisition related and restructuring costs and the lower gross margin rate. For the third quarter, our adjusted operation earnings were $19 million compared to $24 million in the prior year.

The adjusted operating earning margin was 10% compared to 14% in the prior year. Interest expense in the third quarter was $5 million compared to $4 million in the year-ago quarter.

We had other income of $1 million in the third quarter compared to $4 million in the prior year quarter, primarily due to the results from investments in privately held companies.

During the third quarter, we adopted a tax accounting method change to accelerate deductions, which contributed to a tax benefit of $1 million for the third quarter compared to tax expense of $5 million in the prior year quarter.

Net earnings for the third quarter were $4 million or $0.10 per diluted share compared to $11 million or $0.28 per diluted share in the prior year quarter. For the third quarter of fiscal 2018, adjusted net earnings were $13 million or $0.34 per diluted share compared to $17 million or $0.44 per diluted share in the prior year.

Diluted shares outstanding were 38.4 million shares versus 38.0 million shares in the prior year. We ended the third quarter with cash and cash equivalents of $53 million. During the third quarter, we reduced debt by $18 million to $400 million.

Cash flow from operations was approximately $21 million for the third quarter and was $67 million for the fiscal year-to-date. Looking at our working capital, accounts receivable increased by $3 million during the quarter. Days sales outstanding was 62 days compared to 58 days in the prior quarter. Inventory remained flat at $246 million.

Guidance for our net earnings per diluted share is provided on an adjusted basis only. This adjusted financial measure is forward-looking, and we are unable to provide a meaningful or accurate compilation of reconciling items to guidance for GAAP net earnings per diluted share, due to the uncertainty of the amount and timing of the unusual items.

As a result of the company's year-to-date financial performance and our outlook for the fourth quarter, we are revising our fiscal year 2018 guidance. We are lowering our previous revenue guidance of 13% to 14% growth in fiscal year 2018, and now expect revenues to be in the range of 755 million to 765 million for fiscal year 2018.

We are also revising our previous guidance for adjusted net earnings per diluted share of $1.82 to $1.92 in fiscal year 2018 to now be in the range of $1.30 to $1.35. At this time, we'd like to open up the call for your questions..

Operator

[Operator Instructions] The first question is from Anthony Petrone, Jefferies. Please go ahead sir..

Anthony Petrone

So maybe just jump in right into the tariff impact that you talked about on the call here. And maybe just a little bit on, it seems like there's a timing aspect here just on timing of order flows.

I'm just also wondering, as the debate goes on between the two administrations, is there a potential for the OEMs to sort of push back and renegotiate on price in order to absorb the tariffs? And then I have a follow up..

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Anthony, this is Sunny. Let me take the first half. Timing. We have normal seasonal fluctuations in our business that's always there. But if I just take the midpoint of where we were before and the midpoint of our current guidance, I'd say about roughly -- of the difference in the revenues there, there are three major factors that impacted our revenues.

First one was the delays in China CT; the second one was the late in quarter softness due to tariff concerns; and the third one was some softness by the Japanese customers. The softness of the Japanese customers, I would ascribe to just pure timing. This happens seasonally, they adjust their revenues, look at their needs.

That's a normal course of business. The delays due to time, tariffs, that is mostly anecdotal. It's a pause we've seen. We've had lots of discussions with many customers.

We're just in the process of -- they're just trying to assess what is going on? And what their strategies will be? So there is really no -- we didn't see any change in demand, we didn't see, we didn't hear anything about changes in plans.

It's sort of a pause while they figure out what their strategy is as they're trying to figure out what actions they would take and how they would like for us to react. So there, I think there is a timing issue. We expect that things will settle down for them once they've cleared things up.

But we're looking at probably 60 to 90 days of this kind of a modeling around. Although we haven't figured out exactly what their strategies are going to be. On the China delay, it's a -- that's attributed to their normal delays in product development process. We haven't seen any shift in their plans for the launches.

As you know, our customers launch products and their launch dates are tied to specific conferences that occur during the year. RSNA, for example, is one of the biggest one that happens once in a year in November. There are a couple of tradeshows in China in spring and in the fall.

And so those are the times when customers launch their products and those dates haven't moved. So for our miss in expectation of when the China CT ramp-up would happen and what velocity we should be -- we think that's just in -- within their development cycles and have nothing to do with their product launches. So that's our perspective on timing.

It's a little long answer, but that's how we see the timing impact. In terms of customers reaching out for -- regarding costs, we haven't seen those discussions. Frankly, the discussions that we've had so far or where we get -- we're getting signals, I'll say, is from our suppliers the -- we buy a lot of materials from many different suppliers.

We're getting initial indication that, hey, they're feeling us out to see whether we would be -- what our reaction would be for any changes in pricing. Those are, again, Clarence said, those are nominal, those are in the order of magnitude of 20 basis points-ish, 20 to 30 basis points.

We will push back against those and our -- and also our reaction to our suppliers will be, no, when you can't pass those back to us. This is not about our products that are being subject to import duties. If you look at this -- the wave of tariffs that were implemented in on July 6, our products weren't impacted by that.

This is a issue of customers own -- customers that have manufacturing in China, and they're selling -- importing products into the U.S. or vice versa. So this is their problem. So there's really no basis for them to ask us to take any brunt off there.

I'm not even sure how they would -- what they would ask us to do other than normal price pressures that we get from them..

Anthony Petrone

Okay. So -- and just last one for me just stay on tariffs. The one impact is, again, end products, sold by China OEMs into the U.S. clearly facing an impact, but also there is other materials that are input components from Varex, metals, steels. How does that play in just from a tariffs standpoint? I'll get back in queue..

Clarence Verhoef

Sure. Anthony, this is Clarence. So the impact -- direct impact in our gross margin, 20 basis points, which is that tariff on steel and aluminum, that was coming in from various countries. And then there was an additional group of tariffs that were done on July 6, where imports coming in directly from China.

And we have some product that we import from China and that has another -- a bit of impact, and that's included in that 20 basis points.

I think, the more important part as we go forward is this -- as there's a lot of discussion going on about the next round, and I think that's part of what's causing a little bit of the uncertainty because as you look at the next round, it starts to more be direct impact to us in that -- there will be -- there's a large group of items that have been proposed as tariffs by China in response to U.S.

actions. And that group includes some medical components. So some of the components that we would be importing into China would be subject to the tariff.

The -- we're still going through a lot of work right now to understand whether our products specifically are applicable there because there's a long list of all these different HTC codes for every part that -- you need to understand if your part is that -- under that code or a different code.

The one thing I would say also though, is this, so far, CT tubes are not on that list.

So that's -- which is a very significant thing as we talk about where the market is going in terms of what we're developing with the OEMs going forward and the outlook for 2019 when we get to that point is going to -- this so far is not -- has not fallen into that realm of risk..

Operator

We have a question from Mr. Larry Solow, CJS Securities. Please go ahead. .

Larry Solow

Just trying to connect the dots a little bit from a business that supposedly has pretty good annual sort of visibility to how -- you can have to -- sort of, pre-material drop in -- if there's only one quarter left in the year.

I get the -- sort of the reasons, but it sounds like that the tariff one, you're -- there's no direct impact on your products or minimal? I guess, some of these OEMs may be are -- have other impacts from other directions, so they are maybe taking a pause. But you sort of mentioned that, that's anecdotal.

So I'm just trying to figure out, is this may be -- certainly tariffs are impacting it, but you're cutting as much 5% on one quarter. So that's a much more a material impact.

And some of the stuff seems anecdotal, and we know you were trailing significantly on detector piece from early on in the year, and supposedly did this huge bottoms-up analysis and had comfort in your customers reaching that by year-end. So it seems like the tariffs almost is, I hate to say, a convenient excuse, I'm just a little bit confused..

Clarence Verhoef

Yes. So Larry, I'll take a shot at that because I think it is -- you touched on a very important part, which is that -- we had a soft first quarter. And then, we had nice recovery in Q2 and good recovery in Q3. I mean, this is not about quarter with a 12% growth.

But when we look forward what we didn't see is the ability to catch up what we had missed in the Q1 anymore. And this is -- and I mean, very simplistically, I look at it as is a -- let's just say a $30 million drop in our guidance for the year in terms of -- if I use the midpoints of what we had said before versus now, it's the $30 million.

And I can put it into three categories. Third, third, third very simplistically. Third tied very directly with the impact of the tariffs, and what we're just seeing is uncertainty in the market. Third with just the timing of the CT shipments. I mean, that is not business that is gone away in any way, whatsoever. It's just a matter of about the timing.

And we were aggressive and optimistic, as that was going to be one of our elements that was going to help us catch up from the Q1. And it just hasn't happened. It's going to happen in 2019. And then the last third, is a little bit of just not having the other offsets. So a little bit of softness with the Japanese OEMs.

I don't think that's a large number. And then a little bit of flattening of the dental business and where it's gone and that is not in -- we haven't seen the same growth rate in that business as we have seen in prior years. And that's another item that was going to help us get the little bit of the catch up from Q1.

So pretty granular, I mean, I guess, in terms of explaining. But I just wanted you to understand a lot about what happened from Q1 till now..

Larry Solow

And then a follow-up. It's just on a -- just to this quarter, in particular. So you actually -- your revenue number actually didn't meet my expectations or slightly less. The mix is a little different, but it's still a little more in the industrial and a little bit less on the Medical side.

But just in terms of gross margin, you had this aspiration of hitting 39% in the back half of the year. I mean, you haven't hit that number, I think, since you've gone public, but you sounded pretty confident that you would hit it.

The operational challenges that you refer to, what sort of -- is this something that maybe -- it's just part of the business and you can't overcome those? And what -- sort of what caused the impact this quarter? And what gives you confidence that eventually you can get back up to your number.

You just had your 5-year planning, I assume your gross margin outlook is probably hasn't changed.

So how do you bridge that gap?.

Clarence Verhoef

Yes. I think, your -- it's a very good question, Larry. Our goal still is to get 38% to 40%. And I do see a path to get there. When I look at this year though, and say, okay, why are we're at 36% when a couple of years ago we were at 40%. And it's a couple of different things.

So in the Industrial segment, particularly, in the cargo space, mix of what we sell there actually has a significant impact. So we are at the lower end of the mix range right now in terms of what we're selling, little less of the better margin NDT applications and little more of the cargo security kinds of stuff.

So that's part of why industrial margins are down 4 points. And then in addition, I mean, there's been some manufacturing costs in that operation that have been a bit of a disappointment, I would say, and a bit of a surprise by the team there, that are not ongoing kinds of things but they occurred this year.

And then, on the Medical side, the bigger factor, I guess, really is this fab that we have in Santa Clara is costing a fair amount of money to us right now. And so we lose a bit of margin just because of that.

I mean, when I look forward, and say okay, what's the impact as we do the restructuring and we close down that fab, we're talking about north of a point of margin improvement overall for the company, just with the benefit that we get from closing that fab. So it's one of those actions that will help us get there going forward.

I would -- I want to go a little bit deeper here, which is just as I've looked at this and said, okay, one of the variables that we've had is -- over the last couple of years is the mix -- product mix of what we sell, and at times you're going to have variations in that because we will build what the market wants, and sometimes the market wants a little bit on the lower margin stuff and sometimes it wants it on the higher-margin stuff.

But that at the end of the day, almost doesn't matter because I think we have to manage our business from a cost structure perspective to pull costs out.

So we design -- do engineering projects to design -- to pull cost out of the products and to improve our productivity in the factory and to manage our quality costs, the scrap and the warranty cost as such. Those are things that are -- help us get to the -- to offset any product mix kinds of things.

And then lastly, I would say, as we look at consolidation of operations and leveraging the supply chain, with the volumes that we now have with the additions of the PerkinElmer business, those are opportunities for us. So we will continue to focus on that. And I see opportunities going forward.

I still have confidence that we will be in that 38% to 40% range..

Larry Solow

Over the next couple of years or went -- what is that a [indiscernible]....

Clarence Verhoef

Yes, I'm not going to give you FY '19 guidance. So, I’m going to ask you to wait a quarter before I get to that point..

Operator

We have a question from Mr. John Koller, Oppenheimer & Co. Please go ahead sir..

John Koller

So a couple of quick questions. If you can help out on the digital detector side. If you can talk about mix, I think, it was sort of alluded to earlier on the dental business, and I'm also curious about radiographic and the lower end of that product line. Where you're seeing pricing and volumes? Just to get a better idea..

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. So three things. So let's say, the start of the radiographic. And the radiographic we had favorable mix this time. We resold in our newly introduced high-end radiographic detector did very well. And the margins there are a lot better than the low-end.

So we continue to push ourselves in the high-end where there's more value added and more electoral property. And so when we sell more high-end radiographic detectors, we will see a favorable mix there. The dental detectors, the margins there are consistent. There the volumes have been flat for us this year.

So that we haven't seen much of a growth, we're expecting a flat year this year. So it hasn't helped in the mix. It hasn't necessarily hurt that much either. The dental margins are good, because these are high-end dental detectors. We sell more, we end up with a better gross margin.

So overall, on the detector side, we did well from a mixed perspective this quarter. I think, let me leave you with that..

John Koller

So and then to get back to R&D and margins and stuff. I guess, I'm struggling here because it seems like you're making some investments for the long-term, and I applaud that and I think that's great.

But it also seems, and I know the timing is the timing and you supply OEMs you don't have complete control, but it also seems like cost structure is, kind of, gotten away. And I'm curious the Santa Clara, [indiscernible] silicon, I assume that was somewhat planned from the beginning.

And I'm just curious, I mean, what steps do you think you can realistically take to get margins and R&D spend and SG&A expense back in line? I'm not talking about targets to 40%, I'm just talking about stable, for example?.

Clarence Verhoef

I understand the question, John. And maybe, I'll even go one step further here, and just kind of walk a little bit through our operating profit profile. Because our targeted number there is to be at a 20% operating profit. And right now, I mean, for the year-to-date, we're around between 10% and 11%.

We'll probably finish the year at 11% somewhere in that kind of range, which is well south of where we were a few years ago. Yes, we are investing in R&D right now, so we're going to be between 10%, around 10.5% or something in that kind of range on R&D.

That's a period of time that you do that as you're ramping up very significant projects like what we're doing with CT tubes for China. That doesn't mean that's -- where it goes long-term, I think we've talked about being in the 8% to 10% range.

As we look forward, we will be coming off of the 10.5% that we're at right now and be reducing that somewhat going forward. I think, I talked a little bit about the gross margin profile, that's going to be obviously one of the other factors, but then SG&A is the one where -- this is under our control as well.

I mean, I think, how much we invest in R&D is one of items on our -- under our control, and then SG&A as well. So I think that we got a little bit ahead of ourselves when we look at the expectations that we had for revenue, and you end up building some of your spending plans, accordingly.

And we're going to make some corrections of that and make some adjustments of that. Now some of this when you start to look at consolidating operations and the like those are opportunities to do that, but we'll look very closely at how much we're spending in consulting services and the like as well.

So those are -- I still do believe that we have a formula to get back to the 20% level. Now that one I know I can tell you very definitely it's not going to happen all in FY '19. But it is -- I do have confidence that we will get back to that level and head the direction -- in the opposite direction where it went in the last couple quarters..

Operator

The next question is from Francesco Faiella, Sidoti & Company..

Francesco Faiella

Just to go back to the tariff uncertainty. I was wondering if there was more of an impact on stuff that was in the pipeline that's maybe getting delayed to pull the trigger and getting an award or stuff that's you've been awarded.

That's going to maybe push back or after some combinations?.

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

No. So just to clarify, there's a direct impact, which is as Clarence mentioned, it's a small amount, it's from our suppliers. The indirect impact is not -- does not relate to us, our importing components or our products into China. It's the impact -- the impact to us is through softness in volume from our OEMs.

And it's not clear to us whether that's -- that to me, that's more of a timing problem. So what we have in the pipeline, what our customers have agreed to buy from us. Our expectation is that they will buy, because these are engineered into their products. They are just not -- they don't have the ability to switch this -- switch us out that way.

This is more of, they're trying to figure out what their actions are going to be, and whether -- how they're going to manage the routing of their products, production of their products going forward. So it's more of an inventory timing adjustment..

Francesco Faiella

Got you. That's helpful. And then just another quick one.

I know acquisitions have always kind of been a strategy for you guys but it seems like maybe there's more focus? And then I'm wondering, if it -- can we think about that as more diversifying into the industrial side? Or do you want to keep -- was just wondering about the general plans, and if anything change there?.

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Yes. But nothing is changed there, as we've described in the past. Our business has two sets of opportunities. One is consolidation. Consult the competitive consolidation. And second one is adjacencies. There are many components manufacturers or small manufacturers, mostly private companies. Like they claim out in Mavis example that I used.

We'll be looking for those. We've been -- we've an active pipeline, we have an active process. The PerkinElmer acquisition was operationally pretty significant for us and consumed all our management bandwidth, but the integration is very quickly getting behind us.

And by the end of December, pretty much the bulk of the integration, operational integration will be completed. Just opens us up, both from a management bandwidth perspective as well as on the debt side, I know Clarence would like us to be in the 2 to 2.5x times range, and we're getting there rapidly. So our appetite to do more is increasing..

Operator

We have a follow-on question from Mr. Anthony Petrone, Jefferies..

Anthony Petrone

So just a question also on currency kind of dollar's stronger here. Is that compound sort of headwinds for your customers? Obviously, they're forced to convert into dollars from their local currencies in order to purchase tubes and X-ray and detectors and the like.

So just wondering how the strength in the dollar plays out as you head into 2019?.

Clarence Verhoef

My take on that, Anthony, is, is that, it has to do a pretty big move before it becomes a significant event with our customers. And so where we saw that three years ago then it was to a point where it triggered a lot of discussions about pricing. But so far, it has not been a topic of conversation, it has not triggered any conversations.

And it just hasn't moved enough to make it an event..

Operator

We have a follow-up question from Mr. John Koller of Oppenheimer & Close. Please go ahead. .

John Koller

When you talk about the delays in the CT tubes, and I'm not asking for 2019 guidance, but when this comes back, do you see this as additive? Or replacing business that you would've seen in 2019? In other words, are we talking about pushing the whole chain back? Or do you think you can double up a few winks?.

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

the high end, mid-tier, low end. So they're juggling many projects at a time..

John Koller

Okay. And then a comment on the acquisitions. And I mean this in with the utmost respect, I'm not trying to be derogatory in any way, but to some extent you kind of have to earn the ability to go out and spend more money -- shareholder money. As a shareholder, this important.

And you have to get the returns up on the existing business, I think, before I feel comfortable that you can go out and continue to do acquisitions. Even if they're sort of tuck-ins.

And I'm curious, if you understand what I'm trying to drive at here, and if you see that or if you think that the acquisitions, albeit tuck-ins or whatever are still top of lists of things to do..

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

So John, let me just pick one small comment to that, and I'll ask Clarence to comment on it. Just the 3 that we've done, their returns on those have exceeded our expectations.

So in general, acquisitions, I realize are risky, but we've done really well with Claymount, and PerkinElmer continues to deliver very well both on the -- so in terms of return on investment whether you do it organic versus inorganic in this case all 3 returned superior returns whether you call it or even whether we look at from an organic perspective compared to organic investments as well.

With that said, I'll ask Clarence to comment on how we see this use of cash..

Clarence Verhoef

Well, and I think I hear what you're saying John, which is somewhat of -- and to me, it's a little of a question about management distraction and management bandwidth. And certainly, acquisitions take a lot of energy and a lot of time.

And you -- part of what you're saying and part of what I'm hearing is, look, you got to make sure that your house is in order and everything is working well on your fundamental business before you want to spend management energy and time on doing integration of a large acquisition.

At the same time, I think there are opportunities out there, the tuck-in types that are not at the level of big management distraction that actually can deliver very significantly. And we will be looking at those..

John Koller

Adjusted EBIT coverage, I think, it's what 3.5x on a....

Clarence Verhoef

Yes, right now, we're about little bit under 3x, just barely of EBITDA..

John Koller

So I mean, what level do you think you start to get comfortable that you can go out and spend some money there?.

Clarence Verhoef

Well, we generate $60 million to $80 million of free cash flow. So I mean, it's on an annual basis. And so -- I mean, tuck-in acquisitions can be done today, I mean from that perspective. It's more about a sizable -- anything of size and substance that would be a -- that's a different discussion..

Operator

Gentlemen, there are no further questions at this time. I'd like to turn the floor back over to you for closing comments..

Sunny Sanyal President, Chief Executive Officer & Director

Thank you, everyone, for your questions and participating in our earnings conference call for the third quarter of fiscal year 2018. A replay of this quarterly conference call will be available from today through August 16th and can be accessed at the company's website or by calling 1-877-660-6853 from anywhere in the U.S.

or 1-201-612-7415 from non-U.S. locations. The conference call access code is 13681647. Thank you and goodbye..

Operator

This concludes today's teleconference. You may disconnect your lines at this time. Thank you for your participation..

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